SENATOR, ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL DEBATE MERITS OF TEST-BAN POLICY

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Senator, Administration Official Debate Merits of Test-Ban Policy
The panyiue two set-
ters, which appeared in recent
issues of the Washington Post,
and President Kennedy's press
/ s a?ks of March 6,
highlight tie national debate
co, test-bun negotiation
rentty underway at Geneva be-
tween the United States and the
,Soviet Union. They sum up
v the pertinent mor as Sents ofThothe debate.
Dodd (D)
of Connecticut, . ti the
deserve only the best eere-
why we've trained fitters to,,
know the perfect shoes for
baby. White leather, high,
2 to 6, 7.00; low, 4 to 6, 7.50
Young People's Floor, Seventh
Lord & Taylor, New York
and at our seven suburban stores
war to a Post editorial of no the adnuuistration position.
tare February, Kish had His letter ppKens March 4.
t nts w
Laken iasu e the senator's President Kervne
criticism of the edit-ban treaty
wadersnC cm vents wore t Proposals. The edthe sestatted mans I. pr. Fis 9's teens
that underlying the nator's d be Mr. Fisher's lever
attack was "an astounding as- to o the the Post.
million that twos
as ' nations ol`dCe aV Se 'Dodd and
liberately t peril the sec- sty
of the, United States."' The Test Ban'
The Dodd letter appeared in 1 would like to comment on
the Post y, Adhri]. editorial of Feb. 22 which
In an S. Fisher, your Deputy Director of the Arms misrepresented my position I.
ts
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severa
respec
I have never stated or im-
plied anything an preposterous
that this dmoul dlon
its predecessor would d deliber-
ately imperil the ser sty of
the United Stets. I do n-
tnd that the tauten policy
Pursued In good d faith by both
d mfn has beady
oat us our our n ae uclear superiority
r the Soviets, and will
timely imperil o security
unless soon revised.
My assumptions are these:
Such peace as we have is based
upon o -dear partly with
Russia; if the Soviets continue
-clear tests, and we do not,
they will develop weapons se,
superior to ones that they can
contract as with a choice be-
tween surrender o nnihila-
ueethe nban ardss
o ant test--ban proposal a
nedequate that the Soviets
continue testing in secret,
ran after they have disarmed u
through the signing of
treaty.
It is demonstrable than
four years of negotiations, the
Soviets have whittled down our
detection d inspection pro-
v to the point where they
.only ine-t._,h as effective
s those or fitting goes
posal. And Vt. whittling goes
We once demanded the right
to inspect all swditurb-
s of a significant size, i. e.,
several hundred per year; we
then dropped to 20, and than
to 12, and then to a, and then
to 7, and now t 5.
We once insisted on 600 mon-
itoring stations, then 180, and
a 80.
We once insisted that mot-
toeing lotions be manned by
n tionals of the country in-
volved. We now seep[ the
principle that these sesept station,
may be man d by tionals,
which means that the Russians
net are
re be the tthemsalveset
cheating.
We one secluded from the
treaty tests so ...It that they
could not possibly be detected.
We include these unde-
tectabfie le shots.
We once proposed a combat
body on which nation had
the power of veto. new
give tthev Communist bloc the
vee we hP. to.
ave made oil of fete
=p tember of cur Disarm- cr able to test smell devices
Director, William Fos- clandestinely underground for
ter, that there has been no em- .. definite periods, they could
Interment I. our verification ake significant dvances Iv
capability. the general field of small en-
elear weapons. However, every
Continued nuclear
Continued nuclear testing to analysis conducted by the ,
to the perfection Of cutive branch in recent years
the antimissile missile and to has reached the conclusion that
the development of the nan- the strategic military balance
trop bomb between the U.S. and the
The nation which first per- U S S.R could not be altered in
l arts iffier of else weapons any major way by such de-
al] decisively rum the vel.tanan s.
balance of power. The kind of Furthermore, the risks of de-
'testing lteehngd.. here is wader- [action of a series of such tests
ground testing af small yields, a at be ignored by the
which I. precisely the kind U.S.S.R. One test would hardly
most easily hidden. besignificant t a nation bent
Under the provisions to this attempting
to gain milt-
treaty, our shence of detecting Isry advantage by testing ee
sne k tests in on in
a than- fly
d. I am not willing to stake So h nation would an
the survival of this country on Ilk I t t dtict
se-
a
m h e gamble. a of taste, and a
The question, than, ram- bilf t5
Is it possible that any admin. nom h gr t probe 'f
,.,ratio n would negotiate a d [eaten than ltd feteen"
d treatyaedapgerous as I co - lagh woidldf bed pre enthaer
and its w
ms to be based more on an
act of faith than on an .-
,nation of fact.
As a senator it is my duty to
that such . mistake I.
assume peeeible; and the history el all
antes=y cis r plat the with h is-
takes of similar magnitude.
There is one supreme ques-
tion which the Senate must
,ask abegi any nuclear test-ban
g by th lSJt If it s
not it is worthl,aw, w... than
rthles because it could lead
t m,n t 7 d I-rI In
doe not meet that test. An nee against v air pts
so I am gainst it. at undetected cheating an that
Thomas .. Dodd. while such a risk mast be rec-
Washin o gntsed, an balance the seour-
nwr roan Dome .o? sty of the United States would
G t be better served by taking this
A Communication risk than taking the risk of
On March 1 your newspaper
.tried a letter from the seniee
senator from Connecticut
(Thomas J. Dodd) in which he
gave reasons may he believed
the present United States past-
tion i the oaelear test-ban
negotiations wet unsound.
It with great reluctanee
that I Rod myself having to
.or so disagreement with
the senator, are petted law-
m kee and a distinguished
public servant.
But since it is the firm
of of the national rar[ity ad-
tathe President that an
visers
effective test-ban treaty is
the national interest and that
urrposition at the negotiations
cotta sound, a few cam-
menu should be made with ee-
pect I. the United States post
lion and the points raised in
the senator's letter, as wen as
in his recent speech in the Sao-
ate.
1. The senator stated that
the test-ban policy pursued by
both the Eisenhower and Ken-
nedy administrations "het al-
ready cost us our nuclear
suprriority over the Soviets."
The aetoel situation is quite
different. The Uinted States has
not lost Its nuclear superiority
er the U.S.S.R. The trend
with unlimited testing, how-
'- the absence of a
n
agr
eement will he toward
clear
equality in the major
Forcer between the United
Sites and the U.S.S.R.
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2. A test-ban grerwent
mould inhibit nonnuclear pow-
a from obtaining a -clear
weapon capability.
The national interest of the
IfSited States is -,,ad are
by Policy of inhibiting the
proliferation of nuclear weap-
n than by a policy of being
indifferent to the ber of
tries that may develop
nuclear weapons of their
Own.
A test-ban agreement would
not I. itself be flirient to
prevent the spread of inde-
pendent national nuclear capa-
bility, but it weald be a definite
step in the right direction. This
question of nonproliferation is
one that most be included in
any total appraisal of the 'co-
met mace of , to the United Srates grea-
t s a
3. The senator states that
continued unlmited testing
with no age tint`
4. It contended that the
United States provisions for in-
snaction and detection are only
e-tenth as effective as those
I, w original proposals be-
te the United States is now
proposing fewer detection ata
tions and fewer Inpections.
The onitaring system now
groove of deterrent ..affect
that contemplated four
years ago. The o 1ginsl pea-
passl of an inteeeationaRyop-
reted system of 180 c trot
posts located in every geo-
graphic area of the world was
-do at a time when we had
less knowledge about the de-
tection and Identification of
underground -..to and w
for a system designed to moni-
tor the entire globe.
On the basis of knowledge
i -the Sovieto(hdan. w vent
know that the areas ofeinter-
eet can be monitored by a
much smaller system which
places primary reliance for the
detection of events in the So-
vi t Union upon United States
national systems located out-
side the Soviet Union. This is
what we propose.
The original proposal would
have naaltn ed some four to six
years to tistll and the inter-
national staff of technicians
would have had to have be-
ruited and in many c
trained from scratch. Under
the present proposal the United
States If be relying on its
cw detection system which
ould begin operating immedi-
ately and which would be op-
ated by United States a d
United Kingdom nationals who
are already trained and skilled.
This proposal would give the
United States both maximum
flexibility and maximumcon-
tsel of the detection system.
Furthermore, our knowledge
these areas is now based on
actual ol few years observation go t~ was
Only
d in large partnun reetain
o
estimates. ` A
3. It t`suggested that the
United 3ttes now t willing t
pt the principle that moni-
toring stRons be manned by
Russians and that Russians "are
to be the ledges of whether or
net they themselves are ch?et-
Ins"
stet rotthThee detection ate-
bons Ion which the United
States would rely would be
'.operated Sc supervised by the
United States and United King-
dam and would be outside of
the Soviet Union. No Soviet
judge whether
the Soviets see chasing.
Automatic recording seismic
stations Inside the Soviet Union
]d Play pplementry
role Ny; furthermore, the
sealed rerording devices which
these woultl contain would be
servised and the records would
be picked up by non-Soviet
personnel
0. It Is said that we now
propose t give the Commu-
nist bloc veto power on the
control body of the test-ban
Be your
most
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Colonq Cast
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organisation. Na veto ass In-
spection has ever been pro-sed by pod there the States,
h Unitedderation
of proposing such ra who in
the future.
7. It is stated that William
Foster, Director of the Arms
Central and Disarmament
Agency, testified in Septem-
ber that there had heen n
lwpmvement in me verifica-
tion capability.
O the ontrary, Mr. Foster
testified in September concern-
ing two significant develap-
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The previous proposal of the
United States would have ex-
cluded from inspection under-
ground events below a c stain
t ughly, anything below
a 20-kiloton explosion deto-
nated I. tuff, a relatively ..it
rock.
And, at the sa a time, the
United States would have
agreed on a three-year more-
totium against conducting tests
if the Soviets -tin". test- United States P--..,wo ld
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