NOT A CIA BUBBLE

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP75-00001R000400010030-0
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
• Original Classification: K
• Document Page Count: 2
• Document Creation Date: November 16, 2016
• Document Release Date: April 26, 2000
• Sequence Number: 30
• Publication Date: November 18, 1965
• Content Type: TRANS

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STEVE" ALLISON: Our guests at the ttW,','DC microphone -- Joey
and Cindy Adams. Miss Adams has written a book called "Sukarno,
An Autobiography as Told to Cindy Adams." Now there are a lot of
beautiful stories in here . . . Cindy has told us one or two. I
read the jacket that you sent, Cindy, it was most interesting,
and also a little synopsis of the book.
CINDY ADAMS: If you rend this book, you will also see that
he tells about-the 3.958 CIA raid on Indonesia, which is not just
another quote, "CI.t bubble," but is absolutely so, in which a
paid mercenary, hired by the CIA, a man called Allen Pope, did
bomb his ooople. This is documented fact. This is something
that we cannot overlook. This is a terrible blot on the
American - Indonesian relations, and contributed mightily to
its deterioration.
ALLISON : I toll you something -- this might surprise every-
body listening -- mostly you, Cindy, and I'm sure, Joey. I'm
tickled to death to hoar that our CIA is doing something like that.
Isn't that interesting. I'm tickled to death to hear that we
have agents all over the world who are trying to keep people on
our side. Now whether they're doing it right or wrong, this is
not for me or you to say -- but to keep people on our side --
like you said with the Devil, and Hell, and the whole jazz -- keep
them on our side. . . whoever it is, as long as he's on our side.
Like who was it -- Churchill or Roosevelt, talked about Do Gaulle,
he's an SOB -- but he's our SOB, so let's koep them on our side.
And if the CIA did something to keep Indonesia on our side, even
if it's getting rid of Sukarno, who is against us -- I'm with it.
I'm nationalistic enough to be with it.
JOEY ADAMS : Just a minute -- I'm not with anything or
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26 bomber that had just completed a other hand, every rebellion that I have
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tempted to seize power and fore- Pope, 29, a veteran military pilot who had odd things began to happen between:
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