BETTY GROEBLI SHOW

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP70-00058R000300010030-4
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
• Original Classification: K
• Document Page Count: 1
• Document Creation Date: December 9, 2016
• Document Release Date: September 13, 2000
• Sequence Number: 30
• Publication Date: October 19, 1966
• Content Type: TRANS

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PROGRAM Betty Groebli Show STATION WRC Radio
DATE October 1,9, 1966 12:10 PM
Washington, DC
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read ing many reviews of 'The Secret
urrender' by my guest, Allen Dulles, recently, and you must be very
leased, Mr. Dulles. Everyone is delighted with the book. It is
of only fascinating reading,..."
ALLEN DULLES: "I am."
GROEBLI: "...almost like a who--dunnit, but it's factual be-
ides.
"Now, you -- it's called 'The Secret Surrender,' and the oper-
tior, you.rdescribe so brilliantly in this is Operation Sunrise.
.ill you explain why you chose that name, what it meant, what its
oals were, who were involved -- who'was involved, and what hap-
en edV'
DULLES: "All in one word?"
GROEBLI: "Yes."
DULLES: "We called it that, I think I invented the name, be-
ause I am a little pessimistic at times, and I think if you give a
hink a nice, bright name you're much more likely to 'succeed than
f you give it a drab name.
"I had a very distinguished example for that, because that was
hurchill's idea', you know. Churchill invented these marvelous
for operations, Vanguard and Torch, and beautiful words...."
GROEBLI: "Yes."
DULLES: "...and I thought, give it a good name and maybe you've
of a chance. It was a very tough operation and we needed all the
vantages we could have. So, the first thing was to name it right.'
a matter of fact, Churchill named it Crossword."
GROEBLI: "That's what I thought."
DULLES: "Yes."
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