INTELLIGENCE IDENTITIES PROTECTION ACT OF 1981

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S 1164 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 ? _ CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE February 25, 1982 meeting that is presently taking place. Can the Senator tell, me why he uses the hour of 4 o'clock? Mr. BAKER. Yes, Mr. President, be- cause one of the majority participants in the debate will not be ready until 4 o'clock. It is my intention, frankly: to I further ask unanimous consent that these. two amendments be the only amendments in order. And finally I ask unanimous consent that upon the disposition thereof, without intervening debate, motion, point of order, or appeal, third reading occur to be followed immediately with- out further debate, motion, point of order, or appeal by final passage of S. 951. as amended, and that no time be allowed for debate of any motion to re- consider and that paragraph 4 of rule XII be waived. The PRESIDING OFFICER. With- out objection, it is so ordered. Mr. BAKER. I thank the Chair, and I thank all Senators. I yield the floor, Mr. President. Mr. JOHNSTON. Mr. President, I now move and ask unanimous consent that amendment 1250 and amendment 449, both now pending, be withdrawn. JLne The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll. The assistant legislative clerk pro- ceeded to call the roll. Mr. BAKER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call'be rescinded. The PRESIDING OFFICER. With. out objection, it is so ordered. The ma- jority leader is recognized.. . UNANIMOUS-CONSENT AGREEMENT Mr. BAKER. Mr. President, I have a unanimous-consent request in respect to the business of the Senate this afternoon, on Monday, and, on Tues- day. I believe this has been cleared on both sides, and I am prepared now to put the request. Mr. President, I ask unanimous con- sent that at 4 p.m. today, the Senate proceed to consideration of S. 391, the out objection, it is so ordered. agent identities bill. The text of the agreement follows: I further ask unanimous consent ordered, That at 9:30 a.m. on Tuesday, that no call for regular order serve to March 2, 1982, the senate resume considers, take that measure off the floor Pro tion of S. 951, -a bill to authorize appropri- vided that the unfinished business, ations for the purpose of carrying out the Senate Resolution 20, not become the activities of the Department of Justice for pending business until the final dispo- fiscal year 1982, and for other purposes, and sition of Senate Resolution -204, the at that time there be not to exceed 2 hours Williams resolution; provided, further, of debate, to be equally divided and con- that any rollcall votes ordered on this trolled, on the Johnston amendment No. measure on Monday, March 1, will not 1252, and that upon the disposition thereof, the Senate proceed without debate, motion, occur until Tuesday. March 2, begin- point of order, or appeal, to the disposition ning at 2 p.m. and to occur- back to of the Heflin amendment No. 1235. two with y subsequent votes to be 10 Ordered further, That these e two amend- ments be the only amendments in order. minutes each. Ordered further, That upon the disposi- Mr President, before the Chair puts tion thereof, without intervening debate, the request,' I also announce that if . of or or appeal, third motion h this agreement is entered into, there occur, r, totobe a fofolllloor, wed d immediately wittely with. - out intervening debate, motion, or point of will be no more record votes today. order by final passage of 8.951, as amended, Mr. LONG. Mr. President, reserving and that no debate be permitted o'h a the right to object. I should like to motion to reconsider. look at the agreement a second. Mr. BAKER. Mr. President, I am When the Senator makes reference to prepared to leave this bill and I hope back-to-back votes, what measure is he that in a few moments we may have a referring to? unanimous-consent order cleared to Mr. BAKER. Mr. President, the re- provide for the beginning of considera- quest would be that any votes that are tion on the so-called agent identities ordered on Monday to the agent iden- bill later this afternoon. I may say, tites bill would not occur until Tues- however, that it would be just the be- day, beginning at 2 o'clock, and ' that ginning of consideration. I do not. an- those votes on the agent identities bill ticipate votes on that measure today. would be back to back, with the first it is not my intention to ask the vote to be 15 minutes and subsequent Senate to be in session tomorrow. votes to be 10 minutes each. The Senate will reconvene on Mr. LONG. I have no objection. Monday and if the agreement is Mr. ROBERT C. BYRD. Mr. Presi- agreed to, which I have referred to, dent, reserving the right to object, rdered on the does the majority leader also state, by ny votes that are o a agent identities bill prior to Tuesday virtue of the request presented, that - ... - n+her business lln Ali ..hal be ere no b at Z P.M. WILLe ywavl.v....... ...........-___ that time. I am not making that re- Monday, no business other than th quest at this moment but rather stat- agent identities bill? uest that is Mr. BAKER. Yes. e f th q e r the nature o ing now in the - clearance process and Mr. President, I think that will be which I intend to make assuming it is the effect, absent another agreement, cleared a little later. in view of the provision against the Mr. President, I believe the time has call for the regular order. But I will in- come under the order granted now to elude that in the request, that no lay aside S. 951. Is that correct? other business be in order in the siness on The PRESIDING OFFICER. The coc u se of the busi consent' Monday t i . s correc majority leader Mr. BAKER. Then, Mr. President, I Mr. LONG. Mr. President, reserving suggest the absence of a quorum. the right te.object. I need to attend a have a quorum ci or-put the Senate in recess for 20 minutes. Mr. LONG. I thank the majority leader. Mr. ROBERT C. BYRD. Mr. Presi- dent, reserving the right to object, will the majority leader also assure that there will be no votes on anything on Monday, including conference reports which could be brought up without unanimous consent? Mr. BAKER. Mr. President, I have no objection to that. I will modify the request so that there will be no votes on Monday, and those votes which are ordered either- on the "agent identities bill or any other matter which is privi- leged to come before the Senate, not- withstanding the provision of this order, will be stacked to occur in se- quence beginning at 2 o'clock on Tues- day as described. Mr. ROBERT C. BYRD. Mr. Presi- dent, I thank the majority leader. I have no objection. Mr. MATHIAS. Mr. President, re- serving the .right to object, I inquire of the majority leader whether or not. the practical effect of this is that the television question will go over until the Williams question is disposed of. Mr. BAKER. Yes, that is the intent. Mr. MATHIAS. So all those who wish to participate and preparethem- selves to participate will be governed by that knowledge. Mr. BAKER. Yes, that is correct. The PRESIDING OFFICER. With- out objection, it is so ordered. Mr. BAKER. Mr. President, it is 20 minutes before 4 p.m. Under the order just entered the Senate will proceed to the consideration of the agent identi- ties bill at 4 p.m. No other business will be transacted. I think the better part of discretion will be to ask the Senate to go into recess. - RECESS UNTIL 4 P.M. Mr. BAKER.. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Senate stand in recess until the hour of 4 p.m. There being no objection, the p }n., whereupon, the Senate reassem- bled when called to order by the Pre- siding Officer (Mr. DsN oN). INTELLIGENCE IDENTITIES PROTECTION ACT OF 1981 The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the Senate will now proceed to the consideration of S. 391, the Intelligence Identities Protec- tion Act of 1981, which the clerk will report. Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 February 25, 1982 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. - SENATE S 1165 The assistant legislative clerk read as follows: A bill [S. 3911 to amend the National Se- curity Act of 1947 to prohibit the unauthor- ized disclosure of information identifying certain United States, intelligence officers. agents, informants, and sources and to direct the President to establish procedures to protect the secrecy to these intelligence relationships. , The Senate proceeded to consider the bill (S. 391), which had been re= ported from the Committee on the Ju- diciary with amendments, as follows: On page 3, strike line 7, through and in- cluding "information," on line 13, and insert the following: "(c) Whoever, in the course of an effort to identify and expose covert agents with the intent to impair or impede the foreign intel- ligence activities of the United States by the fact of such identification and exposure. dis- closes to any individual not authorized to re- ceive classified information, any informa- tion that identifies an individual as a covert agent, On page 5, line 15, after "agency,", insert the following: "other than the Peace corps". So as. to make the bill read: Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives N the United States of America in Congress assembled, That this Act may be cited as the "Intelligence Identi- ties Protection Act of 1981"; SEC. 2. (a) The National Security Act of 1947 Is amended by adding at the end there- of the following new title: "TITLE VI-PROTECTION OF CERTAIN NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION "PROTECTION OF IDENTITIES OF CERTAIN UNITED STATES UNDERCOVER nITELLIGENCE OFFICERS. AGENTS. INFORMANTS, AND SOURCES "Sac. 601. (a) Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified informa- tion that identifies a covert agent, inten- tionally discloses any Information identify- ing such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and, that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined not more than $50,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. "(b) Whoever, as a result of having au- thorized access to classified information, learns the identity of a covert agent and In- tentionally discloses any information identi- fying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified informa- tion, knowing that the Information dis- closed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's In- telligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined not more than $25,000 or Im- prisoned not more than five years, or both. "(e) Whoever, in the course of an effort to identify and expose covert agents with the Intent to impair or impede the foreign intel- ligence activities of the United States by the fact of such Identification and exposure, dis- closes to any individual not authorized to re- ceive classified information, any informa- tion that Identifies an individual as a covert agent, knowing that the information dis- closed so identifies such individual and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such individual's classi- fied intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined not more than $15,000 or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. "DEFENSES MID ESC'TIbNS "SEcc 602- (a) It In a defense to a prosecu- tion under section 601 that before the com- mission of the'offenae with which defend- ant is charged, the United States had pub- licly acknowledged or revealed the intelli- gence relationship to the United States of the individual the disclosure of whose intel- ligence relationship to the United States is the basis for the prosecution. "(bXl) Subject to paragraph (2),' no person other than a person committing an offense under section 601 shall be subject to prosecution under such section by virtue of section 2 or 4 of title 18, United States Code, or shall be subject to prosecution for con- spiracy to commit an offense under such section. "(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply in the case of a person who acted in the course of a pattern of activities intended to identify and expose covert agents and with reason to be- lieve that such activities would impair or impede the foreign intelligence activities of the United States. "(c) It shall not be an offense under sec- tion 601 to transmit information described in such section directly to the Select Com- mittee on Intelligence of the Senate or to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelli- gence of the House of Representatives. "(d) It shall not be an offense under sec- tion 601 for an individual to disclose infor- mation that solely identifies himself as a covert agent, "PROCEDURES FOR ESTABLISHING COVER FOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES "SEC. 603. (a) The President shall estab- lish procedures to ensure that any Individu- al who is an officer or employee of an Intel- ligence agency, or a member of the Armed Farces assigned to duty with an Intelligence agency, whose Identity as such an officer, employee, or member Is classified informa- tion and which the United States takes af- firmative measures to conceal is afforded all appropriate assistance to ensure that the identity of such individual as such an offi- cer. employee, or member is effectively con- cealed. Such procedures shall provide that any department or agency, other than ,the Peace Corps, designated by the President for the purposes of this section shall pro- vide such assistance as may be determined by the President to be necessary in order to establish and effectively maintain the secre- cy of the identity of such individual as such an officer, employee, or member. "(b) Procedures established by the Presi- dent pursuant to subsection (a) shall be exempt from any requirement for publica- tion or disclosure. "EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION "SEC. 604. There is jurisdiction over an of- fense under section 601 committed outside the United States if the individual commit- ting the offense is a citizen of the United States or an alien lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence (as defined in section 101(aX20) of the Immi- gration and Nationality Act). "PROVIDING INFORMATION TO CONGRESS "SEC. 605. Nothing in this title may be construed as authority to withhold informa- tion from the Congress or from a committee of either House of Congress. - "DEFINITIONS "SEc. 606. For the purposes of this title: "(1) The term 'classified, information' means information or material designated and clearly marked or clearly represented, pursuant to the provisions of a statute or Executive order (or a regulation or order issued pursuant to a statute or Executive order), as requiring a specific degree of pro- tection against unauthorized disclosure for reasons of national security. "(2) The term 'authorized', when used with respect to access to classified informa- tion, means having authority, right, or per- mission pursuant to the provisions of a stat- ute, Executive order, directive of the head of any department or agency engaged th for- eign intelligence- or counterintelligence ac- tivities, order of any United States court, or provisions of any rule of the House of Rep- resentatives or resolution of the Senate which assigns responsibility within the re- spective House of Congress for the oversight of intelligence activities. "(3) The Term 'disclose' means to commu- nicate, provide, impart, transmit, transfer, convey, publish, or otherwise make availa- ble. "(4) The term 'covert agent' means- "(A) an officer or employee of an intelli- gence agency or a member of the Armed Forces assigned to duty with an intelligence agency- "(I) whose identity as such an officer, em- ployee, or member is classified information, and "(ii) who is serving outside the United States or has within the last five years served outside the United States; or "(B) a United States citizen whose intelli- gence relationship to the United States is classified information, and- "(1) who resides and acts outside , the United States as an agent of, or informant or source of operational assistance to, an in- telligence agency, or "(ii) who is at the time of the disclosure acting as an agent of, or Informant to, the foreign counterintelligence or foreign coun- terterrorism components of the Federal Bureau of Investlgat$en; or "(C) an individual, other than a United States citizen, whose past or present intelli- gence relationship to the.United States .is classified information and who Is a present or former agent of, or a present or former informant or source of operational assist- ance to, an intelligence agency. "(5) The term 'Intelligence agency' means the Central Intelligence Agency, a foreign intelligence component of the Department of Defense, or the' foreign counterintelli- gence or foreign counterterrorism compo- nents of the Federal Bureau of Investiga- tion. "(6) The term 'informant' means any indi- vidual who furnishes information to an in- telligence agency in the course of a confi- dential relationship protecting the identity of such individual from public disclosure. "(7) The terms 'officer' and 'employee' have the meanings given Such terms by sec- tions 2104 and 2105, respectively, of title 5; United States Code. "(8) The term 'Armed Forces' means the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard. "(9) The term 'United States', when used in a geographic sense, means all areas under the territorial sovereignty of the United States and the Trust Territory of the Pacif- ic Islands. "(10) The term 'pattern of activities' re- quires a series of acts with a common pur- pose or objective.". "(b) The table of contents at the begin- ning of such Act is amended by adding at the end thereof the following: Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 S 1166 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE February 25, 1982 "TITLE VI-PROTECTION OF CERTAIN NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION Sec. 601. Protection of identities of certain United States undercover intelligence officers, agents, informants, and sources. Sec. 602. Defenses and exceptions. Sec. 603. Procedures for establishing cover for intel- ligence officers and employees. Sec. 604. Extraterritorial jurisdiction. Sec. 605. Providing information to Congress. Sec. 606. Definitions.". Mr. GOLDWATER. Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll. The bill clerk proceeded to call the roll. Mr. DENTON. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded. The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. WARNER). Without objection, it is so ordered. Mr. DENTON. Mr. President, I rise In support of S. 391. On February 3, 1981, our distinguished colleague Sen- ator JoHN H. CHAFES of Rhode Island introduced the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1981. ? This bill, which currently has 46 cosponsors, was reported from the Committee on the Judiciary on October 6, 1981. S. 391 is a bill to amend the National Security Act of 1947, to prohibit the unauthorized disclosure of informa- tion identifying certain U.S. intelli- gence Officers, agents, informants, and sources, and to direct the President to establish procedures to protect the se- crecy of these intelligence relation- ships. Events transpiring in the world have been increasingly demonstrative of the need for maintaining a strong and ef- fective intelligence apparatus. It fol- lows, therefore, that unauthorized dis- closures of information identifying in- dividuals engaged in, or assisting in, our country's foreign intelligence ac- tivities, undermine the intelligence community's human source collection capabilities as well as endanger the lives of our intelligence officer in the field. The disclosure of the identity of a covert agent is an immoral, nationally, and personally harmful act that cannot be tolerated. Prohibition of this activity as defined by the bill would in no way inhibit an individual from speaking out against Govern- ment programs that are wasteful. It would not impede the whistleblower who seeks to enhance his Govern- ment's ability to perform more effi- ciently by bringing to the attention of those in responsible positions deficien- cies, such as fraud or waste, in the agency in which the whistleblower serves. The reprehensible activities which this bill is designed to crimina- lize have repeatedly exposed honor- able public servants to personal peril and vastly reduced their effectiveness in pursuing their endeavors with sig- nificant detriment to national secu- rity. The insensitivity and moral de- generacy on the part of those who seek to undermine the effectiveness of our intelligence capability are so inimi- cal to our American democratic system that it seems evident that what we are about to do today should not be neces- sary. This bill Is indeed overdue for passage. While In a free society we must wel- come public debate concerning the role of the intelligence community as well as that of other components of our Government, the irresponsible and indiscriminate disclosure of names and cover identities of covert agents serves no salutary purpose whatsoever. As elected public officials, we have the duty, consistent with our oaths of office, to uphold the Constitution and to support the men and women of the U.S. intelligence service who perform important duties on behalf of their country, often at great personal risk and sacrifice. Extensive hearings before the House and Senate Intelligence Committees and the Subcommittee on Security and Terrorism have documented the pernicious effects which have resulted from these disclosures or identities. An iinderlying, basic issue is our ability to continue to recruit and retain human sources of intelligence whose informa- tion is crucial to our Nation's survival in an Increasingly dangerous world. It seems mind-boggling to me that no existing law clearly and specifically makes the unauthorized disclosure of clandestine intelligence agents' identi- ties a criminal offense. Therefore, as matters now stand, the impunity with which unauthorized disclosures of in- telligence Identities can be made im- plies a governmental position of neu- trality in the matter. It suggests that the U.S. intelligence officers are "fair game" for those members of their own society who take Issue with the exist- ence of a CIA or find other perverse motives for making these unauthor- ized disclosures. Through the lengthy hearings that have occurred over the past several sessions of the Congress, we have heard a substantial amount of testimo- ny regarding the possible constitution- al problems engendered by provisions of this bill. As we all appreciate, in this area of identities protection, we have steered a course carefully charted between two enormous inter- ests: On the one side, we have the pro- tection of a constitutional right of free speech and, on the other side, the vital need to protect the effectiveness of U.S. intelligence gathering around the world. During all of the hearings and debates, great care has been taken to construct a provision that would reach the activity to be proscribed, that is, "naming names," in such a way as to do no violence to the first amendment to the Constitution. I believe we, and those who labored previously on this measure, have been successful. On June 29', 1981, the Supreme Court of the United States in a 7-to-2 decision sustained the authority of the President, acting through the Secre- tary of State, to revoke a passport of a U.S. citizen on the grounds that the holder of the passport is engaged in activities abroad that are causing seri- ous damage to the national security of foreign policy of the United States. This decision, Haig, Secretary of State against Agee, has a major rela- tionship to this bill in that the Court's review of this matter established the serious nature of the activity of naming names to identify and expose covert agents. Furthermore, the Court's decision suggests that the issues involved here are, from a consti- tutional standpoint, relatively clear cut. This decision established that S. 391 will withstand a first amendment challenge in the courts. Even Justice Brennan stated in his dissent that: It may be that respondent's first amend- ment right to speak is outweighted by the Government's interest in national security. Mr. President, I view this as a bi- partisan issue. I believe immediate action must be taken to curtail these activities which have been so deter- mental to our intelligence-gathering capabilities and, ultimately, to our na- tional security. If any legitimate criti- cism is to be leveled at this bill It would, In, my view, relate to Insuffi- cient criminal sanctions for what I consider to be a most egregious of- fense that borders on treason. Frankly, I am grateful for the spirit of cooperation that has enabled this important bill to be brought to the floor but I am concerned that it has taken so long to do so. I look forward to the prompt consideration of this measure on the floor today and its early enactment in a form that most adequately addresses this serious gap in the Federal Criminal Code. Finally, I want to commend by col- league from Rhode Island, Senator CHAFES, for his initiative and unceas- ing efforts on this vital measure. I also want to thank staff members Rob Simmons, Will Lucius, and Sam Fran- cis for their valuable contributions on S. 391. These gentlemen, along with many others, have put in many long hours on this legislation and I feel they deserve our strong commenda- tion. There has been a strong bipartisan tone in the discussions on this matter in committee. In the spirit of that bi- partisanship I have worked with the minority floor manager of this bill and have come to respect him greatly. I am now pleased to yield to the Sen- ator from Delaware. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Delaware. Mr. BIDEN. I thank the Senator. I, too, would like to begin by compli- menting the Senator from Rhode Island, Senator CHAFES, who serves with me on the Intelligence Commit- tee, has had for some time a preemi- nent interest in doing something about protecting, the safety of agents of the U.S. Government. These agents, acting on behalf of our Government, and in the interests of the people of the United States of America, are sub- Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 February 25, 1982 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD = SENATE. S 1167 ject to the outrageous public exposure reading the RxcoRD -of what the are not going to spend a lot more time by individuals, some of - whom are debate is, about, will have a . starting here today-is how do we get to those former members of those agencies, point at least. folks, how do we treat them, and by who have deliberately put them at The whole purpose of this bill is to what standard of law do we apply to risk. penalize the disclosure of names by them? mind that those people who are delib- erately engaging in this practice are fully aware of the fact that such expo- sure can and has resulted in the loss of life and the breach of security and, consequently, affected the interests of the United States of America. I, too, believe as does the Senator from Rhode Island and the Senator from Alabama, indeed I think we are all in agreement that it is high time we finally got this thing to the floor. It is high time we get a vote. We had a number of debates. I see the distinguished Senator from Arizo- na, chairman of the Committee on In- telligence, here. He is fully aware of the subject, fully cognizant of it. He. in his capacity on that committee, has heard all the arguments and debates on this. We have had it through his committee and the Judiciary Commit- tee. In the 10 years I have been in the U.S. Senate, there have not been many issues that have been as thoroughly, fully debated as this one. So I think it is high time we got on with the issue of deciding what are the only really one or two controversial aspects of the bill. We are 99 or 90 percent in agree- ment as to what form this protection of our agents should take. I should like to suggest, and I think it is appropriate-it is common prac- tice that we should move, probably, the committee amendments. This is the Judiciary Committee the Senator from Alabama and I are representing today. I ask unanimous consent that we consider and agree to en bloc the amendments as adopted in the com- mittee on this bill. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection? Mr. DENTON. Mr. President, I re- serve the right to object. Mr. BIDEN. Mr. President, I amend that to say and that the bill as thus amended be considered as original text. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection to. the unanimous-con- sent request of the Senator from Dela- ware as amended? Is it the request of the Senator to have the amendments be agreed to en bloc? Mr. BIDEN. That is correct. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is on agreeing to the commit- tee amendments en bloc. The committee amendments were agreed to en bloc. Mr. BIDEN. I thank the Chair for the help. Mr. President, let me, if I may, at least from my perspective, outline in just a few minutes the essential ele- ments of the bill as I see it so our col- leagues, as they go forward with their efforts and their homework tonight and tomorrow and on the weekend, only the third class or person we nave the Senator from icnoue 1swuu, i. nC a debate about as to how we should do Senator from Alabama and others, a it. The first is in section 601 (a) and case can be made that the civil lib- (b) and they deal with present and former Government employees who have had access to the . names of agents or who, because they had access to classified information, are able to determine the names of the agents. In subsection (d), that deals with individuals outside the Govern- ment who disclose the names of agents even though they never had access to classified information. There are two formulations of sec- tion (c) that really are the cause of some debate here, in the Senate, and that we shall be debating at the begin- ning of next week, the so-called reason-to-believe version, which reads as follows: Whoever, in the course of a pattern of ac- tivities intended to identify and expose covert agents and with reason to believe that such activities would impair or impede the foreign intelligence activities of the United states. etc. We are talking about the third class of person now, not the person who has had access to classified information. These are persons outside the Govern- ment who disclose the names, the standard we want to judge them by. The first standard we are going to argue about is the one I just read. Another version is the version adopt- ed by the Judiciary Committee. It is the intent version. It is a response to some of the arguments raised by some of the constitutional scholars and press groups who contend that the reason to believe version is unconstitu- tional and/or unnecessarily broad. The intent version reads as follows: Whoever, In the course of an effort to identify and expose covert agents with the intent to impair or impede the foreign intel- ligence activities of the U.S. by the fact of such identification and exposure, And so on. That is what we are going to be ar- guing about. That is what it is all about., That is what it comes down to- whether or not we have the operative language that would make it a crime and subject those persons to a crimi- nal penalty who reveal the names of agents, who have not had access to the names of these agents through classi- fied information in the past, fall out- side of Government but, nonetheless, by whatever means, gain access to it: a reporter who finds out that John Doe is a CIA agent and he publishes John Doe's name; or somebody who deliber- ately goes on a witch hunt to find out the names of those people, gathers them up and publishes them for pur- poses of exposure. They are the folks we are after. So what we are going to be arguing about-not so much today because we erties of Americans are better protect- ed by the reason to believe standard. So our colleagues are going to hear a lot of confusing, well-intended jargon on both -sides. We are going to have the Senator from Rhode Island argu- ing, if we really want to protect civil liberties, we should adopt reason to be- lieve. We are going to have the Sena- tor from Delaware say, no, it is better to have an intent standard. I do not have any doubt in my mind at the beginning of this debate that the Senator from Rhode Island means what he says, that he truly believes the best way not only to protect our national interest but also not to vio- late the civil liberties of our American citizens under the first amendment is to adopt the reason -to believe. I happen to disagree with that. So we are about to get into a debate that I believe is borne out by a genuine belief on both our sides that we can get the job done with our language and pro- tect civil liberties. Mr. President, I 'think it is useful for us to really understand just how narrow the difference is, because it gets kind of complicated. We are going to get into fairly esoteric arguments and it is a little:'bit hard to follow. I suspect that we shall both or all of us on the floor may - very well-at various times in the _ debate, our decibel rates may rise and we may also be making appeals as to the same basic set of ar- guments and our colleagues are going to argue, how can they both be saying the same thing? Mr. President, there is much more to talk about in this bill. There, is a sec- tion on whether it is constitutional to penalize nonemployees. We are going to be talking about what happens without the intent language, what happens with the intent language. We are going to be arguing about what the Agency thinks will get the job done, we are going to be arguing. about how badly all these things are needed. Rather than get into those things now and rather than make a more lengthy floor statement, I want to reiterate where the bone of contention is going to come. The argument we are going to be fo- cusing on in this bill is whether or not the language which says "with the intent to impair or impede" should be stricken and we should have language that says "with reason to believe." It is going to come down to that. That is the big issue. I am anxious to get it settled. I am anxious to have a resolu- tion, because we need a bill. These folks need protection and I am confi- dent that whatever version we come Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 S 1168 ? CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE February 25, 1982 out with we can get passed in the U.S. It is bad enough that our overseas how to protect first amendment rights Congress, we can get the President to employees are exposed to violence, but while allowing for prosecution of sign, and we can get on with the busi- to allow someone here at home to do it those who abuse those rights. I hope ness of putting it in shape. So without by putting ID tags on them so that we have not become so helpless that getting into the details of my argu- they may become targets makes no we cannot recognize a serious situation ment as to why I think we should stick sense at all. and solve it just because we cannot with the committee version, let me So far, some 1,200 names have been agree on words. I believe that first yield to my colleagues who also have made public in magazines or newspa- amendment rights were considered opening statements and, maybe, a dif- pers. Another 700 appeared in a book, and that the bill will protect those ferent perspective on this question. A bimonthly bulletin exposes CIA, rights while allowing for prosecution Mr. DENTON. Mr. President, first I FBI, and military Intelligence person- of those who name names solely for would pose a rhetorical question to nel and assignments. A worldwide net- the purpose of harming the Govern- the Senator from Delaware. I wonder work called CIA watch is operated for ment's foreign intelligence activities. why the Senator Is so firm on the the purpose of destroying the CIA. There is another amendment in the intent standard regarding the applica- Every time I read about something Constitution that is 'important, too. tion of legislation to protect the lives like this, it bothers me, I cannot help That is the 14th amendment, which of our intelligence agents and yet does but wonder why we let it continue and guarantees the right of equal protec- not come down on that same standard why someone does not do something tion to all citizens. I believe this bill on the issue .of voting rights. about it. That seems to me as morally will protect those rights and the first Mr. BIDEN. I said it was going to be wrong as anything I can think of and amendment at the same time. an interesting debate. I will be happy, something I can accept no longer. This bill will outlaw unauthorized since it was a rhetorical question, to We are in a rut on this subject, and I disclosure of names in three ways. speak to that question in some detail am afraid It will become our grave if First, it covers those who have access as we get down the line here, we do not stop talking and do some- to classified information which identi- Mr. DENTON. I yield to the Senator thing. We must tell the world that we fies names. Second, it applies to those from Arizona. will not tolerate such disclosures any who have access to classified informa- Mr. GOLDWATER. Mr. President, I longer and show that we care for the tion but not names, and who learn of thank my friend. The Intelligence CIA and plan to do something about names because of that access. Third, it Identities Protection Act (S. 391) it. hits those who make a business of before us today will, help protect our Thus, the immediate goal for this naming names in a deliberate and sys- intelligence personnel on difficult and Nation-and for this Congress-should tematic way even though they claim dangerous assignments in foreign be the rebuilding and revitalization of not to have access to classified infor- countries. It also will help stop our in- the intelligence community which will mation. telligence' sources from turning away benefit all our citizens. Some have said that this bill will not from us because they are afraid we We should have had this bill before do much more than help patch the- cannot be trusted to protect them. It us sooner, but now that it is before us, image of the CIA. I believe that there might help us get information that is we must act promptly. This bill was re- is a lot more at stake than that. It has vital to the security of our country. ported from the Senate Intelligence nothing to do with whether you like Last November, the "Covert Action Committee by a vote of 13 to 1 In 1980, the CIA or do not like the CIA. Saving Information Bulletin" published the after 9 days of hearings and over 650 lives Is what this bill will do. This is so names of 69 alleged CIA officers serv- pages of testimony. It picked up 47 co- serious that if we do not pass this bill ing in 45 countries abroad in a section sponsors in 1981. It passed the House the KGP people are the only ones who titled "Naming Names." In addition, by a vote of 354 to 56 last year, and will get a laugh out of it. Everyone the "Bulletin" reprinted the names of has had the support of both the else will think we are crazy and start 272 alleged covert agents which had Reagan and Carter administrations. looking at us as accessories to negli- been identified in the 12 previous edi- The purpose of this bill is to protect gent homicide. It would mean that we tions of the magazine. the lives of American citizens working would One week later, the pro-Sandinist abroad in the intelligence operations prefer to protect those who would paper, Nuevo Diario, identified the of this country from other American harm us instead of those who work for us names of 13 alleged CIA officers as- citizens who deliberately wish to set A high gh ra. signed to the U.S. Embassy in Mana- them up for exposure -nking CIA official tesCo e - to violence by before the Senate Intelligence Com gua, Nicaragua. Several of those the unauthorized disclosure of names. mittee in these words: named have already received death The bill also places a price on the ac- threats, been roughed up in their tivities of those who use this means to Our intelligence sources and methods are at night, and the families of a impair and impede duly authorized part of the national treasure. Once dis- homes cl our be denied to and number of these American officials American intelligence activities our methods thwarted by relatively simple have been evacuated for their personal around the world, actions by foreign authorities. The law cur- safety. U.S. officials in Managua have The biggest obstacle to this bill in rently lacks teeth in seeing to it that these linked the publication of these names the past were claims that it would in- sources and methods are adequately pro- with the visit of Philip Agee to Nicara- terfere with free speech and freedom tected from unauthorized disclosure. gua last month. of the press. That has been worked Mr. President, those words certainly There has already been one murder. out, and those claims are phony. The make sense. There is no good reason Richard Welch was murdered in Supreme Court would not hesitate to why our intelligence employees or Greece after being named. In 1980, say so if Congress were to go too far. agents who operate under protective two attempts were made in Jamaica to If someone wants to criticize foreign cover on official Government business assassinate American personnel. They policy, that is their business. If they should be placed in needless danger by were set up as targets for assassination want to write about the lousy conduct permitting their identities to be re- by other Americans through the unau- of some of our citizens, that is OK, vealed deliberately. thorized disclosure of names. There too. But they do not have to name Mr. President, I might comment are two ways this is being done. One is names, because that places the lives of that we are the only country in the the naming of names at press confer- human beings in danger. That is not world that allows this to go on. The ences, and the other is listing names in OK. It is not acceptable in the Ameri- penalty for doing this in any other books and publications. These unau- can society. country would undoubtedly be death . thorized disclosures have been exten- There have been at least six bills on or life imprisonment. But we allow it sive and many have been made by both sides of the Capitol to deal with to go on out of an office on DuPont former CIA employees. The tragedy is this, but all of them have been bogged Circle, and I am fed up with it. that we do not have any laws to stop down in discussions over how best to These disclosures of identities have it. arrange words. The problem has been no redeeming social value and were Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 S 1170 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE February 2j, 1982 Somebody goes out, he spends an in. nature has been examined in one form ness of furnishing the enemies of the credible amount of time, he goes or another by both the Intelligence United States with information that through a whole series of unclassified Committee and the Judiciary Commit- invites and facilitates violence against documents; and then with the intent tee since early 1980'. Hearings have its agents and mere reporting. I am to expose the name of an agent in been held, there has been lengthy satisfied with the terms of this bill order to impair the activities of the debate, and each and every section has and the protection that it affords. I United States, goes ahead and pub- been closely and carefully scrutinized. encourage all of my colleagues to sup- lishes these names. I do not believe that there is much dis- port this bill and its goals.* On the other hand, in the amend- agreement in the Senate as to whether AMENDMENT NO. 1256 ment that I will call up, the language or not legislation of this type is is somewhat different. The language needed, and I think that it is time for (Purpose: To describe criminal liability for in my amendment says, "Whoever, in the Senate to say with a loud and the disclosure of certain information iden- the course of a pattern of activities in- clear voice that we do not condone the tifying an individual as a covert agent) tended to identify and expose covert type of action prohibited by this bill. Mr. CHAFEE. Mr. President, I call agents and with reason to believe that This measure aims at protecting the up my amendment numbered 1256. such activities would impair or identities of those individuals whose The PRESIDING OFFICER. The impede." As the distinguished Senator anonymity serves the interest of the clerk will report the amendment. from Delaware mentioned, it seems we country. Moreover, this legislation The assistant legislative clerk read might be arguing and nitpicking over would insure an appropriate balance as follows: words here. One talks about the between Individual rights and the ab- The Senator from Rhode Island (Mr. "intent" to impair the Intelligence ac- solute necessity for secrecy In intelli- CHAFEE) for himself, Mr. JACxsoN, Mr. tivities of the United States, and the gence collection vital to the security of ABDNOR, Mr. COCHRAN, Mr. D'AMATO, other talks about "reason to believe" the Nation. Mr. DENTON, Mr. DOMENICI, Mr. EAST, that the disclosure of these names The prohibitions contained in S. 391 Mr. GARN, Mr. GRASSLEY, Mr. GOLD- would impair the intelligence activities are directed at punishing those indi- WATER, Mr. HAYAKAWA, Mr. HATCH, of the United States. viduals who intentionally and without Mrs. HAWKINS, Mr. HELMS, Mr. HvM- First, let me say this: We have been authorization disclose information PHREY, Mr. LAXALT, Mr. LUGAR, Mr. working on this entire subject now for identifying intelligence officers and MATTINGLY, Mr. NICKLES, Mr. SCHMITT, over 2 years. I will say, how delighted I agents of the United States. This bill Mr. SIMPSON, Mr. Symms, Mr. THUR- am that we have this legislation on is not intended -to apply to members of MOND, Mr. TOWER, Mr. WALLOP, and the floor now. In one way or another the press or others engaged in legiti- Mr. WARNER) proposes an amendment it seems apparent that legislation is mate activities protected by the first numbered 1256: going to pass dealing with this prob- amendment. It is intended, however, On page 3, beginning with line 13, strike lem. That in itself is a mammoth step to stop those people who are in the out all through "agent," on line 19 and forward. Indeed, in the Judiciary Com- business of "naming names" of our insert in lieu thereof the following: mittee, the committee language passed covert agents. "(c) Whoever, in the course of a pattern of unanimously, and the amendment We must keep In mind the special activities intended to identify and expose that I presented barely failed by a needs of the brave and unsung em- covert agents and with reason to believe vote of 8 to 9. But if it had passed I ployees of the intelligence agencies of that such activities would impair or impede suspect that that language would have this country. We must remember, too, the foreign intelligence activities of the also been approved by the committee. that uninformed policymakers cannot United States, discloses any information In other words, one way or another properly serve the people, and without agent identifies to any i a an individual ulth o a covert is unanimity, I believe, in this the information these employees pro- ago y individual not authorized to re- ceive classified information,". there that we will pass legislation to vide, the American people will suffer.* curb the disclosure of the names of al- ? Mr. GRASSLEY. Mr. President, ear- Mr. CHAFEE. Mr. President, the leged agents working for our intelli- her this year, as a member of the guts of this debate here this afternoon gence agencies. Senate Judiciary Committee, I voted and Monday and Tuesday morning As I mentioned earlier, we have in favor of S. 391, as originally intro- presumably will revolve around the found this to be the principal sore spot duced. I intend to reaffirm my strong amendment I have submitted. with those who serve this country support for the bill here today and I As I previously indicated, the rest of abroad. How Is it possible, they say, hope that we can restore the bill to its the language of this legislation ap- that fellow Americans can disclose original form. pears to be noncontroversial and that names of alleged agents who are serv- In this bill, as in other bills that the is a tremendous step forward because ing at their personal peril around dif- Judiciary Committee has studied in such certainly was not true some 2 ferent trouble spots of the world? Why this and the prior session, we have years ago when we first presented this do we permit this to happen? been asked to balance first amend- language. When this legislation is passed, and ment rights against the Government's On this amendment, in which I am the House has passed language similar ability to "suppress" information nec- joined as a principal cosponsor by Sen- to that in my amendment, and if my essary to protect the men and women ator JACKSON of Washington,' and by amendment prevails, which I hope It of the intelligence community, whose some 25 other Senators, I now review a will, then we will not have to go to secret work is vital to the Nation's se- bit of history, if I might, on the back- conference on this subsection. If my curity. ground of the amendment. amendment fails, then we will go to Some have opposed this legislation. The language which I am presenting conference, but one way or another The opposition states that the bill un- along with Senator JACKSON Is the lan- language is going to come out. An act dermines first amendment rights. But, guage which was originally proposed is- going to be passed by this body, that overwhelmingly, it has been viewed and referred to the Senate Committee will wrestle in a determined manner and it should be viewed as an attempt on the Judiciary. It emerged from the with this problem, to bolster or protect our covert intelli. Subcommittee on Security and Terror. Let me briefly give a bit of history, if gence and counterintelligence agents. ism headed by the distinguished Sena- I might, but before proceeding to that, I have been convinced beyond a rea- tor from Alabama, and then was con- let me call up my amendment. sonable doubt that this legislation is sidered in the full committee. There (By request of Mr. DENTON the fol- needed to prohibit the systematic ex- this language was rejected by a very lowing statement was ordered to be posure- of agents' identities under cir- close vote of 9 to 8. printed in the RECORD:) ' cumstances that pose a clear threat to In my judgment, the committee lan- ? Mr. THURMOND. Mr. President, intelligence activities vital to the Na- guage, which was adopted-and let me this bill represents the culmination of tion's defense. I am also convinced call it the committee amendment- a great deal of work during at least that this bill goes to great lengths to substantially weakens the language two Congresses. Legislation of this distinguish between the ghoulish busi- which was originally in the bill which Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 February 25, 1982 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -SENATE was adopted by the House, and which is in my amendment. Therefore, I am presenting this amendment, which passed in the House of Representatives last fail by a vote of 354 to 56. It is the language which the Senate Intelligence' Com- mittee originally adopted in 1980 by a vote of 13 to 1. Now, President Reagan has stated that our language-and by our lan- guage I mean the Chafee-Jackson lan- guage-is "far more likely to result in an effective law that could lead to suc- cessful prosecution," than the commit- tee language. Mr. President, the key difference be- tween the committee and the Chafee- Jackson language relates to the stand- ard of proof that would be used in a prosecution. The committee language requires that there be an effort to identify and expose agents with the intent to impair or impede the intelli- gence activities of the United States. Our language requires that there be a pattern of activities intended to identify and expose agents, with reason to believe that such activities would impair or impede the foreign in- telligence activities of the United States. In other words, the difference is the committee language depends on the subjective intent of the person en- gaged in naming names whereas our language uses an objective standard of proof. (Mr. HAYAKAWA assumed the chair.) Mr. CHAFEE. I will explain this fur- ther as we go along. But, at this point, let me say that it places the Intent of the defendant under our language where it should be in a criminal act- on the intention. to perform the harm- ful act. The committee language focus- es on the subjective intent of the de- fendant to do harm. The reasons for these differences rises out of the debate we had on this issue last year. I would like to summa- rize some of the background of the debate. In January of 1980, over 2 years ago, Senator JACxsoN and I Joined Senator MoYNiHAN' in Introducing the Intelli- gence Reform Act of 1980 (S. 2216). That bill contained a section designed to protect agent identities which de- pended on a subjective standard of intent-in other words, when we origi- nally introduced this bill, we also had this subjective standard of Intent. What did the person intend to do inside their breast? Now, when we had the hearings before the Senate Intelligence Com- mittee in June of 1980, a number of witnesses expressed concern with this language. For example, Mr. Floyd Abrams testified that he did not sup- port the intent standard for the fol- lowing reasons: I don't think that their intent- Meaning the accused- ought to bear on your decision. They- The accused- Do bad things maybe for bad reasons but the question I would urge on you at least Is whatever the intent is. whether you ought to start down the road of deriding what can be said or written by people -who don't happen to work for the Government, whether you like or approve of their Intent or not. I don't think that factor ought to be that they don't like the CIA. They may not have a constitutional right to publish' cer- tain information but they have absolute right to like or dislike what they choose. And Mr. Morton Helperin, of the ACLU, said about the same thing. He said: I think that a citizen has the right to impair or impede the functions of a govern- ment agency whether it is the Federal Trade Commission or the CIA. The fact that your intent is to Impair or impede those agencies does not make your activity a crime if it Is otherwise legal. Now, because of these concerns about intent, the staffs of the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Jus- tice Department began working on an alternative standard of proof which would remove the problems of the spe- cific intent standard. Eventually, we came up with language which utilized what they call an objective standard of intent. The Carter administration's Justice Department endorsed this lan- guage. In a letter to Chairman Bayh, who was then the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, the Deputy Attorney General of the United States, Mr. Renfrew, wrote as follows about this objective standard: This formulation iubstantlally alleviates the Constitutional and practical concerns expressed by the Justice Department with regard to earlier versions of this bill that hi- eluded a requirement that prohibited disclo- sures be made with a specific "Intent to impair or Impede" U.S. Intelligence astivi- ties. Because of the significance of this matter, however, it has been our view from the be- ginning that such legislation as Is enacted must be fair, effective and enforceable. Our position has been and remains that the ab- sence of an intent element in this legislation will accomplish this goal. Let me just briefly summarize what we are talking about here. Under the committee language, it is said that you have to have an intent to impair the intelligence activities of the United States before you are guilty. We say that is not the right standard. Some- body might be impairing intelligence activities but not with the intent to do so. Somebody might be disclosing names of alleged CIA agents and saying. I'm not doing It to impair the Intelligence activities of the United States, I am doing it to Improve intelligence activities. These agents are misbehaving all over the world. They shouldn't be monkeying around In foreign countries. We ought to be collecting intelligence with satellites or whatever it might be. I'm not out to poll or impair the Intelligence activities of the United States, I'm out to Improve theac. Now, that is what we can the subjec- tive standard of Intent. How do we get into that person's breast and deter- mine whether he is out to improve or S 1171 he is out to impair the intelligence ac- tivities of the country? The problem is why we do not use that standard. Instead, we look at the pattern of activities of a person: If time after time after time he exposes the names of agents and he has a reason to believe that It impairs intel- ligence activities, he Is culpable. Any reasonable person would know that by naming names you are going to impair the foreign intelligence activities of the United States. Now, there is the crux of the prob- lem between this different language. It is not that we are dancing on the head of a pin here. There are substan- tial differences. Mr. President, the Department of Justice under President Carter ? and the Department of Justice under President Reagan both believe that the better standard is the one in our amendment. This language protects the individual and, furthermore, it en- hances the chances of obtaining a prosecution at the same time. Now, I note that the language of this amendment is the only language that has been endorsed by both the Carter and the Reagan administration Justice Departments. The Issues which this legislation involves have been heard In detail. Our wording In this amendment has been carefully worked out and refined to its current state. Let me address for a moment the committee language. The reason we are here this after. noon, of course, is to strengthen the intelligence capabilities of the United States by prohibiting the unauthor- ized disclosure of intormatlon identify- ing certain intelligence offices of our country. This bill places criminal pen- alties on those enemies of our intelli- gence community engaged In this per- nicious activity called naming names. 'There is no dispute that those who are for the,committee language and those who are for the amendment both object to the activity of the naming of names. The difficulty comes in whether the eomgaittee language will accomplish the purpose of placing criminal penalties on this activity be- cause the committee language depends on specific Intent language. That is the standard in the committee bill. It offers serious prosecutorial problems in the case of an Individual that claims that his intent Is to inform the public or even to improve U.S. intelligence. Let me refer to the testimony of Mr. Richard Willard, who is the Attorney General's counsel for Intelligence policy, on October 6, 1941. Mr. Willard said: The problem is that Senator Bwmec's ap- proach would invite ev ,alon of the bill be- cause people like Mr Wov and others would nay, "Well, my Intent was to help In- telligence activities by disclosing unsavory activities," and that would give them a de- fense that they would seek to use. That is why we felt the objective reason-to-believe standard which Senator CHAP= introduced to be better. Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 S 1172 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -- SENATE February 25, 1982 In the Judiciary Committee markup sure of national defense information This standard is more carefully tai- of the original bill on October 6, 1981, which the person has "reason to be. lored to the specific harm the statute Senator BIDEN stated that: lieve could be used to the injury of the seeks to prevent than the more gener- All the folks we all agree we want to get United States or to the advantage of alized standard of injury to the United can be captured, figuratively and literally, any foreign nation." There is an exam- States or advantage to a foreign under the language I'am about to introduce. ple of the "reason to believe." power. However, it is my concern that this Similarly, 42 U.S.C., section 2274(b) As Judge Learned Hand observed, is not the case. Many individuals who punishes disclosure of restricted there may be many cases where information indulge in "naming names" have sug- atomic energy data "with reason to be- may be advantageous to another power and gested that their purpose, their lieve such data will be utilized to yet not injurious to the U.S. "intent," is not to impair or impede injure the United States or to secure Judge Hand said that in United U.S. intelligence activities. Their pur- an advantage to any foreign nation." States against Heine, 151 F.2d 813, pose, they say, is to improve these ac- There are other examples. 815(1945). tivities. For these individuals, the sub- Therefore, the standard which we The language of our amendment fo- jective intent standard provides a loop- have adopted in this amendment is cuses solely on injury to the United hole big enough to drive a truck consistent with past legislation where States. In other words, it does not talk through. Congress has punished disclosure about for- For example, in testimony before without requiring proof of specific its w being advantageous tf rther the House Permanent Select Commit- than power. It even restricts it further tee on Intelligence on January 31, intent, but, rather, proof that the rea- than that-it involves not just broad t81, WInam Schaap of the Covert sonably foreseeable result would cause injury to the United States, but specif- I llim Schaap had Covert injury to the United States or advan- is injury to the U.S. foreign intelli- Action say: tage to a foreign power. gence activities. Our publication'... is devoted to exposing Of course, the question may be So, unlike statutes that merely re- what what we view as the abuses of the Western asked whether the objective stand- quire reason to believe that informa- agency, primarily though not and-the "reason to believe" stand- tion could be used to the injury of the exclusively the CIA, and to expose the and-will be sustained by the courts. United States, the Government must people responsible for those abuses: We be- Clearly, we do not want to write some- prove that the reasonably foreseeable lieve that the best thing for the security thing into this very important stat- result of this disclosure would be to and well-being of the United States would ute-which both sides are anxious to impair or impede particular U.S. Gov- be to limit severely, if not abolish, the CIA. get passed-that will not be sustained ernment functions that are exception- Our intent both in exposing the abuses of by our courts. the intelligence agencies and in exposing ally important to the conduct of U.S. the people responsible for those abuses is to In the opinion of the Carter admin- foreign and military defense and that increase the moral force of this Nation not istration and in the opinion of the depend upon secrecy for their success. to lessen it. That the CIA would assume our Reagan administration Justice Depart- An even greater safeguard is the re- intent is simply to impair or impede their ment, this standard, the Chafee-Jack- quirement that the disclosure must foreign intelligence also seems likely. Pa- son standard, will survive first amend- occur "in the course of a pattern of ac- triotism is to some extent in the eyes of the ment and other challenges in the tivities intended to identify and expose The implication of this testimon courts. covert agents." The term. "pattern of that Schaap does not beimoe his Past examples of where the "reason activities" is defined in section 606(10) that Mr. S h "impair or impede" his to believe" standard has been upheld of this statute, the bill that we are dis- intention is to activities. His activity impede" would be: cussing today. The pattern of activi- inte t llige Gorin against the United States, ties require a series of acts with a in pa. It would seem, then, the could 1944, where the "reason to believe" common purpose and objective. It is mount ul esee,vt en, that ha under c uld was characterized as sufficient not one disclosure, it is a pattern of ac- committee language, based on his the tiviU.S. Court; eign intelligence activities. prosecution because there is no crimi- Schmeller against the United States, Thus, there must be proof not only nal liability for his "pattern of activi- sixth circuit, 1944, where "reason to with regard to a particular disclosure, ties." believe" was upheld with no require- but also with respect to the pattern of Mr. President, it has been suggested ment to prove specific intent; activities in which the disclosure that the objective standard of criminal U.S. against Achtenberg, eighth cir- occurs. The evidence must show that liability under subsection 601(c) de- cuit, 1972, where the "reason to be- such activities were undertaken both parts from previous statutes, punish- lieve" standard was deemed sufficient- to identify and to expose covert ment for disclosure in the national se- by precise for the criminal statute to agents. A person must, in other words, curity field. Some say, "We have never withstand an attack for vagueness and be engaged in the enterprise of ferret- heard of such a thing. Every criminal overbreadth; ing out the identities of individuals in- statute has intent. You have to have U.S. against Bishop, ninth circuit, volved in covert intelligence activities intent on the part of the accused. 1979, where the "reason to believe" and exposing their intelligence rela- What do you do coming up with lan- standard was held to be sufficiently tionship to the United States, This guage which talks about `reason to be- precise to withstand a vagueness standard is -more rigorous than the lieve?' " attack; current statutes punishing disclosure But the facts are that the standard U.S. against Progressive, Inc., Wis- of other types of national defense in- we have adopted is consistent with ex- consin District Court, 1979, where the formation. isting espionage statutes and, if any- "reason to believe" standard withstood The "pattern of activities" require- thing, offers greater protection for an attack for vagueness and over- ment is designed to narrow the scope first amendment rights, breadth, of criminal liability without imposing All the existing espionage laws In comparison to many existing stat- undue burdens on the prosecution of which can apply to those without au- utes the language which we have offenses under section 601(c). It was thorized access to classified informa- placed in this amendment includes developed in consultation with the De- tion require that an individual be en- language which narrows the scope of partment of Justice, which strongly gaged in an activity with one of two criminal liability and therefore affords endorses the language as preferable to things: Either there be an "intent," greater protection for first amend- the "subjective intent" requirement in which is true in some statutes, or that ment rights. There must be proof that the committee standard. there be a "reason to believe," as we the disclosure was made with reason The alternative of requiring specific have here, and sometimes both. to believe that it "would impair and intent to impair or impede intelligence For example, 18 U.S.C., section impede the foreign intelligence activi- activities which the committee lan- 793(e), punishes unauthorized disclo- ties of the United States." . guage requires would place unneces- Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 S 1174 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE February 25, 1982 be made to have this legislation enacted this cannot be shown to have come from classi- munication" of national security Informa- year. fied sources. This has been the most contro- tion offenses with regard to which searches Yours sincerely, versial part of Identities legislation, and it is and seizures may be conducted under the STANSFIELD TURNER. also the key provision from the standpoint exceptions provided in those subsections. of the legislation's potential effectiveness in Should you have any questions concerning THE DIRECTOR, deterring unauthorized disclosures. We have the views expressed in this letter, please do CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY, concluded that the objective standard of not hesitate to contact my Legislative Coun- Washington, D.C., April 29, 1981. proof contained in S. 391 (i.e., "reason to be- sel directly. We look forward to working Hon. EDWARD P. BOLAND, lieve that such activities would impair or with the Committee to ensure prompt en- Chairman, Permanent Select Committee on impede. . .") is preferable to the subjective actment of Identities legislation. Intelligence, House of Representatives, standard set forth in H.R. 4 (i.e., "with the Sincerely, Washington, D.C. intent to impair or impede..."). This pref- WILLIAM J. CASEY. DEAR MR. CHAIRMAN: During the course of erence is based upon a number of factors, _ the recent hearings on the proposed "Intel- including prospects for successful prosecu- OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, ligence Identities Protection Act" before the tions under the differing formulations. We Washington, D.C., July 20, 1981. Subcommittee on Legislation, the following have discussed this matter at great length Hon. STROM THURMOND, requests were made of me: with the Department of Justice, and we be- Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary, Representative Ashbrook asked, as a lieve that our preference for S. 391 is in U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C. drafting service, that we provide him with accord with the Department's views. DEAR MR. CHAIRMAN: It is my understand- language for a "false Identification" provi- Mr. Fowler's second question goes to the ing that the Committee on the Judiciary is sion that would meet constitutional muster; Issue of the so-called "Kennedy Compro- presently considering S. 391, the roposed Representative Fowler asked for the raise," printed In the 30 September 1980 Intelligence Identities Protection Act, which Agency's official views on the Senate ver- Congressional Record and set forth herein sion of subsection 501(c) and the so-called below: was introduced by Senator Chafee on behalf "Kennedy Compromise" suggested in the "Whoever, in the course ok a pattern of of himself and a number of distinguished closing days of the 96th Congress. activities undertaken for the purpose of un- Members of the Senate. My representative As to Representative Ashbrook's request, covering the identities of covert agents and testified in favor of this bill earlier this year one such version is presently found in sub- exposing such identities (1) in order to in hearings before the Subcommittee on Se- section 800(d) of H.R. 133, the "Intelligence impair or Impede the effectiveness of covert curity and Terrorism. I would like to take Officer Identity Protection Act of 1981," in- agents or the activities in which they are this opportunity to assure you of my strong troduced by Representative Charles E. Ben- engaged by the fact of such uncovering and personal support for this legislation. nett (D., Fla.). Mr. Bennett's formulation exposure, or (2) with reckless disregard for The recent decision of the Supreme Court contains a harm standard, that is, prejudice the safety of covert agents discloses any in- In Haig v. Agee . emphasized that to the safety or well-being of any officer, formation that identifies an individual not (m)easures to protect the secrecy of our employee, or citizen of the U.S. or adverse authdrized to receive classified information, Government's foreign intelligence oper- impact on the foreign affairs functions of knowing that the information disclosed so ations plainly serve compelling national se- the United States. The Bennett formulation identifies such individual and that the curity interests." The Court rejected Agee's provides a readily available solution. The United States is taking affirmative measures First Amendment claim with the following formulation that appears in H.R. 133 Is as to conceal such Individual's classified intelli- analysis: follows: gene relationship to the United States, "The revocation of Agee's passport rests Whoever falsely asserts, publishes, or shall be fined not more than $15,000 or im. in part on the content of his speech: specifi- otherwise claims that any individual is.an prisoned not more than three years, or cally, his repeated disclosures of intelligence officer or employee of a department or both. operations and names of intelligence per- agency of the United States engaged in for- This formulation appears to raise the sonnel. Long ago, however, this Court recog- eign intelligence or counterintelligence ac- -same kinds of problems of proof of intent nized that "No one would question but that tivities, where such assertion, publication, which the Department of Justice believes a government might prevent actual obstruc- or claim pgejudices the safety or well-being are present in the current formulation of tion to its recruiting service or the publica- of any officer, employee, or citizen of the the subsection 501(c) offense in H.R. 4, since tion of the sailing dates of transports or the United States or adversely affects the for- the Government would have to show that number and location of troops." Near v. eign affairs functions of the United States, the ? disclosure was made "in order to" Minnesota, 283 U.S. 697, 716 (1931), citing shall be Imprisoned for not more than five impair or impede the effectiveness of covert Chafee, Freedom of Speech 10 (1920). years or fined not more than $50,000, or agents or their activities. A defendant could Agee's disclosures, among other things, have both." assert that his activities and his disclosures the declared purpose of obstructing intelli- In the course of the testimony by Richard were done "in order to" to accomplish some gence operations and the recruiting of intel- K. Willard, the Attorney General's Counsel other purpose. Inclusion of the alternative ligence personnel. They are clearly not pro- for Intelligence Policy stated that, in his "reckless disregard" standard in any 501(c) tected by the Constitution. The mere fact opinion, a "false Identification" provision type provision would be of doubtful value. It that Agee is also engaged In criticism of the containing a "life endangerment" element is difficult to understand what is meant by Government does not render his conduct would be both enforceable and constitution- "reckless disregard" in the context of the beyond the reach of the law." al. I would stress, however, that such a Identities Bill, since Congress, by enacting I believe this Supreme Court decision physical harm standard would not be suit- Identities legislation is in effect making a should resolve any lingering doubt that may able for the sections of the Bill which cover finding that unauthorized disclosures of exist concerning the constitutionality of the correct identifications of intelligence per- identities do in fact threaten the personal proposed legislation. sonnel. The physical safety of our people is, safety of intelligence personnel. A reckless Speedy enactment of legislation to protect of course, a matter of grave concern, but the disregard standard would apparently mean covert agents' identities deserves the high- Identities legislation is designed to deal pri- that the Government would have to make est priority, and I strongly recommend that marily with the damage to our intelligence an additional showing of physical endanger- S. 391 be favorably reported out of the Com- capabilities which is caused by unauthorized ment in each particular case. This, from a mittee. disclosures of identities, whether or not a deterrent perspective, would appear to be Sincerely, particular officer or source is physically inadvisable. WILLIAM FRENCH SMITH, jeopardized in each individual case. Additionally, the Committee may wish to Attorney General. As to the first question posed by Mr. consider one technical amendment to H.R. - Fowler, i.e., the Agency's views on the Sen- 4, not mentioned in the course of the recent THE WHITE HOUSE, ate's version of subsection 501(c), we start Identities hearings, but nonetheless dictated Washington, September 14, 1981, from the basic premise that H.R. 4 and S. by enactment in the 96th Congress of S. Hon. STROM THURMOND. 391 are essentially similar. Both are careful- 1790, the "Privacy Protection Act of 1980," U.S. Senate, ly and narrowly crafted Bills which could ef- legislation signed into law by President Washington, D.C. fectively remedy the problems posed by the Carter on 14 October 1980 and designed to DEAR SENATOR THURMOND: It is my under- unauthorized disclosures of intelligence modify the Supreme Court's decision in standing that the Senate Judiciary Commit- identities, and withstand challenge on con- Zurcher v. Stanford Daily. The enactment tee will consider S. 391, The Intelligence stitutional grounds. Thus, the CIA would of this legislation has a bearing on our ef- Identities Protection Act of 1981, on Tues- support enactment of either H.R. 4 or S. forts to secure passage of Identities legisla- day. September 15. 391. As you know, the Bills do differ with re- tion. The Identities legislation should In. Passage of legislation to provide criminal spect to the standard, of proof that would elude a provision amending subsections sanctions against those who make it their apply to individuals who have not had au- 101(a)(1) and 101(b)(1) of the Privacy Pro- business to identify and expose our intelli- thorized access to classified information, tection Act so as to include the proposed gence officers is a key element of my pro- and which would criminalize their disclo- new title of the National Security act of gram to rebuild and strengthen US intelli- sures of identities even if these disclosures 1947 among the "receipt, possession, or com- gene capabilities. Nothing has been more Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 February 25, 1982 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD SENATE S 1175 damaging to our, intelligence effort than the pernicious, unauthorized disclosures of the names. of those officers whom we send on dangerous and difficult assignments abroad. Attorney General Smith advises that the Senate version of this legislation, S. 391, is legally sound, both from a prosecution per- spective and in the protection it provides for constitutional rights of innocent Americans. Any change to the Senate version would have the effect of altering this carefully- crafted balance. I cannot overemphasize the importance of this legislation. I hope I can have your sup- port in reporting out S. 391 without amend- ment. Sincerely, CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY, Washington, D.C., September 30, 1981. EDITOR, The New York Times, New York, N.Y. DEAR SIR: Your editorial of September 28, 1981, "A Dumb Defense of Intelligence," in- correctly represents - the position I have taken on legislation to protect the identities of covert agents. I have consistently sup- ported and advocated the Senate language in S. 391 and H.R. 4, as amended and passed by the House on September 23, as more cer- tain to be effective in ending the pernicious unauthorized disclosures which are jeopar- dizing our nation's intelligence efforts and threatening those engaged or assisting in difficult and dangerous assignments abroad. Opponents of this cruicial legislation, In an effort to delay and obstruct final enact- ment, are quick to allege its constitutional infirmity. However, the legislation In its cur- rent form has had the bipartisan support of the Carter and now the Reagan White House and Justice Departments. We are confident that the legislation will pass con- stitutional muster. There is no doubt that disclosures of agent Identities constitute a clear danger to this nation's first line of de- fense, its intelligence apparatus. Recently, the U.S. Supreme Court in Haig v. Agee stated that such "conduct ... presents a serious danger to American officials abroad and serious danger to the national security" and that these disclosures " ... clearly are not protected by the Constitution." We can no longer afford delay. Every day means more unauthorized disclosures, more operations compromised, more lives endan- gered, more loss of confidence in our ability to keep secrets on the part of foreign intelli- gence services willing to cooperate with us. The Senate should delay no longer. Sincerely, WILLIAM J. CASEY, Director of Central Intelligence. STATEMENT SY THE PRESIDENT I am pleased today to sign into law H.R. 3454, the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1982. This act represents a sig- nificant first step toward achieving revital- ization of our Nation's intelligence commu- nity. The President of the United States must have timely, accurate, and insightful foreign intelligence in order to make sound national defense and foreign. policy deci- sions. This act helps to assure that we will have the necessary intelligence information .to make these difficult decisions. The Congress has with this act authorized appropriations sufficient to assure that we continue to have the world's best and most professional intelligence service. The Con- gress has also provided new administrative authorities to the heads of the Nation's three major intelligence agencies to assure that they can perform: their misaipns more effectively. I hope that the spirit of cooper- ation between the Legislative and Executive Branched which resulted 1n this act will con- tinue as we move to rebuild our Nation's in- telligence capabilities. I would also note my hope that I will soon be able to sign the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, which has passed the House and is awaiting floor action in the Senate. I strongly support enactment of this measure, .preferably in the form in which it was passed by the House of Representatives; we must act now to protect our intelligence per- sonnel, who serve our Nation under what are often difficult and dangerous circum- stances. THE WHITE Housz, Washington, February 3, 1982. Hon. HOWARD H. BAKER, Majority Leader, U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C. DEAR SENATOR BAKER: Legislation to make criminal the unauthorized disclosure of the names of our intelligence officers remains the cornerstone for the improvement of our intelligence capabilities, a goal that I know we share. Nothing has been more damaging to this effort than the pernicious disclosures of the names of officers whom we send abroad on dangerous and difficult assign- ments. Unfortunately, these disclosures con- tinue with impunity, endangering lives, seri- ously impairing the effectiveness of our clandestine operations, and adversely affect- ing morale within our intelligence agencies. Last September the House of Representa- tives overwhelmingly passed the Adminis- tration-supported version of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act. The Senate is soon to take up consideration of this legisla- tion, and you will have before you two ver- sions. While I believe that both versions are fully protective of constitutional guaran- tees, Attorney General Smith and I firmly believe that the original version, first intro- duced by Senator. Chafes and others, is far more likely to result in an effective law that could lead to successful prosecution. I strongly urge you and each of your col- leagues to support the carefully-crafted Chafee-Jackson amendment to S. 391. I cannot overemphasize the importance of this legislation. Sincerely, RONALD REAGAN. Mr. CHAFEE. Mr. President, for those who argue that the administra- tion does not care whether it gets the Chafee-Jackson language or the com- mittee language, I should like to read the President's letter to Senator BA mm and Senator ROBERT C. BYRD this month. DEAR SENATOR BAKER: Legislation to make criminal the unauthorized disclosure of the names of our intelligence officers remains the cornerstone for the improvement of our intelligence capabilities, a goal that I know we share. Nothing has been more damaging to this effort than the pernicious disclosures of the names of officers whom we send abroad on dangerous and difficult assign- ments. Unfortunately, these disclosures con- tinue with impunity, endangering lives, seri- ously impairing the effectiveness of our clandestine operations, and adversely affect- ing morale within our intelligence agencies. Last September the House of Representa- tives overwhemingly passed the Administra- tion-supported version of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act. The Senate is soon to take up consideration of this legisla- tion, and you will have before you two ver- sions. While I believe that both versions are fully protective of constitutional guaran- tees. Attorney General Smith and I firmly believe that the original version, first intro- duced by Senator Chafee and others, is far more likely to result in an effective law that could lead to successful prosecution. I strongly urge you and each of your col- leagues to support the carefully-crafted Chafee-Jackson amendment to S. 391. I cannot overemphasize the importance of this legislation. Sincerely, RONALD REACAN. It seems to me that this letter makes the administration's support for our amendment perfectly clear. Finally, it has been argued by propo- nents of a subjective intent standard that, in 'order to be constitutional under Supreme Court precedents, a law punishing disclosure must require proof of an intent to do harm. For ex- ample, on May 8, 1981, a witness before the Subcommittee on Security and Terrorism of the Senate Commit- tee on the Judiciary stated that: Professor Scalia ? ? ? expressed the clear view that the absence of a bad purpose would make the statute unconstitutional. This assertion is not, however, sup- ported by careful analysis of the appli- cable cases and constitutional princi- ples. In fact, Prof. Antonin Scalia of the University of Chicago Law School has testified with respect to the reason to believe standard in section 801(c): If the character of the information were defined narrowly enough. If the individual against whom the law is directed were de- fined narrowly enough, I think such a provi- sion might well be Gus "1981 House Intelligence Committee." Given the extremely limited type of information covered and the narrow class of individuals engaged in a pat- tern of activities intended to identify and expose covert agents, there is little risk of unconstitutionality in S. 391 as originally introduced. The central constitutional question presented by any prohibition against disclosure is: What danger does the disclosure create? It may be that if a person intends to producle harm, his intention may itself increase the risk that the harm will occur. But the Su- preme Court. has held that.all the cir- cumstances of the case must be taken into account before the actual danger can be assessed for first amendment purposes. Disclosure may be innocuous in fact-It may have no reasonable likelihood of creating a danger the Government is entitled to prevent- even though the intentions of the person are of a different character. Our amendment adopts standards that are directly relevant to the central constitutional concern of showing the reasonable likelihood of serious harm. In summary, the Chafee-Jackson amendment contains language which is consistent with existing statutes punishing disclosure of national secu- rity information; it narrows the scope of criminal liability without imposing undue obstacles to. effective enforce- ment; it meets the constitutional re- Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 S 1176 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE February 25, 1982 quirements of the first amendment; and it will provide for the effective prosecution of those who spend their time naming names. Mr. President, over the past 5 years, more than 2,000 names of alleged CIA officers have been identified and pub- lished by a small group of individuals whose stated intention is to expose U.S. intelligence operations. I think it is time we legislated an end to this vendetta against the American intelli- gence community. We send fellow Americans abroad on dangerous missions; missions which are directed and ordered by our Gov- ernment. We owe it to them to do our utmost to protect their lives as they go about our business. S. 391, with our amendment, will provide this protec- tion, and I urge my colleagues to sup- port the Chafee-Jackson amendment and final passage of this bill. Mr. President, there is no debate or argument on this floor that somebody is more for the first amendment than anyone else. There, is no argument on this floor as to whether one group is more for successful prosecution, more for stemming the publication of the names of these agents than another. There is none of that. The argument here solely is how we can best craft this language to accomplish the goals we all seek. It is my view, the view of two administrations, the view of the Attorney General of the United States, and the view of the President, that the language of this amendment best accomplishes that goal, best per- mits us to move forward with the suc- cessful prosecution of these despicable persons who publish the names of agents of the United States. Mr. BIDEN. Mr. President, the hour is getting late. We are going to have a chance, as I said, on Monday to get into great detail on this, but I should like to take 5 minutes now to make some initial rebuttal to the points raised by the Senator from Rhode Island. I am going to pick only a few of the things he has said today. The first comment the Senator made in the early part of his state- ment was as to how we get into the breast of the person making the state- ment. The phrase is, "How do we get into the breast of the person making the statements?" I suggest that we get into the breast of the person making the statements, or disclosing the name, the same way we get into the breast of a defendant accused of robbery or murder or rape or larceny or anything else. We get into the breast by looking at all the circumstances surrounding what that person did. I should also like to point out that the way the judges usually tell the juries to get into the breast of a person accused of crime is by instruct- ing the juries on what intent means. They say the following, which is from section 14.03, "Specific intent," Devitt and Blackmar, vol. I, Federal Jury Practice and Instructions, third edi- tion 1977. Remember, we have a defendant, and the prosecution says, "This guy killed Cock Robin." Then the judge says, "You have to find that he spe- cifically meant to kill Cock Robin." He had to have intent to kill Cock Robin. It could not have been an accident. What I mean by intent is this: "Specif- ic intent," as the term implies, means more than the general intent to commit the act. To establish specific intent the Government must prove that the defendant knowingly did an act which the law forbids (knowingly failed to do an act which the law re- quires,) purposely intending to violate the law. This is the important part: "Such intent may be determined from all the facts and circumstances surrounding the case. "An act or failure to act is knowingly done if done voluntarily and intention- ally, and not because of mistake or ac- cident or other innocent reason." The Senator goes on and makes a very compelling argument. I should note for the Record that he is a very worthy adversary on this matter. It sounded good to me. As a matter of fact, he had me believing it for a second. The Senator says we have these guys who are publishing these bulletins saying, "Well, I intended to help America when I disclosed the name of Joe Doakes, who is an agent of the CIA, so don't find me guilty because, although I intended something, I did not intend to hurt. I intended to help." I submit that under the reason to believe standard, he can say the same thing. He can stand before the jury and say: "Ladies and gentlemen, I had reason to believe this would help America when I disclosed the name of Joe Doakes." I had reason to believe that because I know from great experience in the area that we are not trusted around the world because of the CIA. They do not like us because of the CIA, and the real reason, the way to help America is to uncover CIA agents. So I have reason to believe that this would help, not impede. So if he would be able to stand before a jury and say with any degree of credibility, "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I did not intend to hurt," he could also stand before the jury and say, "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I did not have reason to believe this would hurt; I had reason to be- lieve it would help." So, if it applies to intent, it is kind of a specious argument to say it also im- plies to reason to believe, but the kicker is that in either case the jury is going to sit back and say, "Now, wait a minute, what did he do here? Did he intend to do this? Let us look at all the facts and circumstances. Did this guy mean-sure, he intended to publish be- cause he published-but did the intend to hurt?" We make distinctions. For example, we have all read in the newspaper and if my colleagues will read the RECORD they will read all the exposures about Wilson and Terpil, former CIA agents. What are they doing? They are fooling around with Qadhafi in Libya and they are selling arms, and they are doing all these things. Were it not for the innovative and anxious press intending to help Amer- ica, not impede it, we would have not found out very much about that. It was not the CIA that came to us and told us these guys were out fooling around. It was the press, an inquiring press. I want the press going out there intending to expose - those people. They publish the name of the CIA agent. They did it with the intent to help America. In this case they did. According to the jury instruction, that is up to a jury to believe. Does it help America for a press person to expose the name of an agent who may be a mole in the CIA, who may be sell- ing arms to an enemy? That is a question for the jury to decide just like it is if Mr. Schaap stood before the jury and said, "Well, when I published all these names in this bulletin I intended to help." The jury makes that decision just like they would in "reason to believe." They say, "Biden, you are making a pretty convincing argument here. Why do you not just accept `reason to be- lieve' then?" The problem with "reason to be- lieve" is it has what we call in the law a chilling effect on that reporter who wants to go out there and expose something that is harming the United States, wants to find the mole in the CIA, if there is one, wants to find out whether that jerk Terpil is in fact sell- ing weapons to Qadhafi and aiding ter- rorism, wants to expose the fact that there may be a CIA agent involved in international drug trafficking. Now, he knows under the intent standard that he can stand before a jury and say: "Hey, I was not intend- ing to hurt; I was intending to help the CIA, and let me tell you the facts; the facts are this guy was dealing in drugs. The facts are this guy is a KGB agent, not a CIA agent. The facts are that this guy is selling arms to terror- ists. Jury, what do you think? Do you think I am meaning to help or hurt?" We do not even get to that in the "reason to believe" standard because we establish a "pattern of activities" easily. We do not have to have them publish 50 names on 50 different days or 3 names, or 20 names, but only 1. All we have to do is establish this one reporter went around and spoke to 10 people and said, "What about Mark here? What about it? What do you know about him?" And you go and go to you, "What do you know about him?" Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 February 25, 1982 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -SENATE And go to you and say, "What do you know about him? And go to the Senator from Califor- nia and say, "What do you know about him?" I am establishing a pattern of activi- ty. The activity Is that I am running around and I am going to end up ex- posing Joe Doe. I am going to publish Joe Doe's name. Under the law the prosecution will be able to walk into court and say: "Wait, the pattern of activity. Did you not go around and speak to 25 people to find this out and discover this guy's name?" "Oh, yes, I did that." All right. There we have the pattern of activity. "When you went to the CIA and said what do you know about Joe Doakes. did not the pressman for the CIA .fellow look at you and say, 'Wait a minute. I have to tell you right now you are on slippery turf. You may very well be jeopardizing the security of the United States of America. I want to warn you of that right this minute."' Now, OK. The reporter says, "Now there is a 'reason to believe' standard in the law. The CIA just told me I better not go any further because I am going to hurt the United States of America if I go any further." Now, does that mean that I have al- ready crossed the threshold of the "reason to believe"? Does that mean if I get dragged into court even though I am out to help, not hurt, and even though I am exposing a jerk like Terpil or Wilson, even though I am uncovering a KGB agent in the CIA- have I met the second standard al, ready? Let us face it. Whether you are talk- ing to a CIA man or whether you are talking to someone in the Defense De- partment or whether you are talking to a press secretary for a U.S. Senator, they are not going to encourage you to investigate anything. So what do we all instinctively do? We are going to say, "You better be careful." And now when this guy has the story or that woman has her story they go to their editor and they sit down with the editor and say: "You know, I have a story that is going to blow this place wide open. I found out we have some CIA agents who are selling arms to Libyans and they are hurting us, they are lying to the Government." And the editor is going, to say, "Now, wait a minute, are you all ready to go to jail?" No; I do not want to do that. OK. Let me ask you: How do you know it is true? "Well, I tell you here it is true," and you lay it out. They say, "Now, are you sure you are not missing something?" What happens if you publish this and this is really a double cover for something else that is behind all of this and Wilson and Terpil are really triple agents, not double agents? They say. "What did they tell you out at the agency?" "They told me I am on thin ice. They told me I better not go any further." Wait a minute, gee, dots that mean we have reason to believe that? Should not I have done this? That is not a spot to put the press in. That is not what we are about. That is not where we are. So the reason to believe ends up being an incredibly subjective stand- ard rather than the objective standard that the Senator is genuinely trying to accomplish. He really means, and I believe every word he says, he really and truly means that this is the best way to pro- tect not only America. the CIA agent. but also our civil liberties and a free press. I respectfully argue and suggest that is not the case. And when you get down to the point again that he made so eloquently, the Senator from Rhode Island said this guy, Schaap- and I. want to note for the Rscoan not former Gov. Milton Schaap--Schaap says in testimony, "I do not intend to hurt. I intend to help." And the Senator from Rhode island says, "Well, he is going to be able-to say to a jury," and implies they will probably believe him and he probably will get away with it. Again let me em- phasize that if he can stand before the jury and say, "I did not intend to hurt, I intended to help." he can also stand before the jury and say. "I had no reason to believe that I was ljuting; I had every reason to believe I was help- ing, and it is a bit of a red herring to argue whether or not this is going to make it easier or harder before a jury because they are going to look behind, they are going to look at the totality of the acts. But what in fact is at stake is wheth- er or not some reporter will believe that they will have a chance to make the arguments as to what they intend- ed to do. In the espionage statute-and we will go into this in great detail Monday, because I am sure the Sena- tor will be back to it-the court usual- ly takes two portions of the statute to come up with the conclusion that there was intent. The point I really want to make here is I spent 2 years doing a study for the intelligence Committee on the espionage laws of this country and in fact with the help of Mr. Gitenstein, who was then on the Intelligence Committee and now on the Judiciary Committee staff, we went back and looked at every damage assessment report for the previous 10 years on leaks in espionage activities to write a tough espionage statute. You know what we found out? We found out there is hardly any success- ful leak prosecutions under the Espio- nage Act, hardly any. I would respectfully suggest to you that one of the reasons why it is diffi- S 1177 cult, from the testimony we had, is, they said, "Hey, the prosecution is constantly coming and saying 'We cannot make a case with the "reason- to-believe" portion of the statute. That gets in our way, does not help us.' " I hope we are going to hear from, on Monday, my colleague from Pennsyl- vania, a former prosecutor, on the other side of the aisle, who, I think, will make the case fairly eloquently that it would be harder to get a convic- tion under the "reason-to-believe" standard than under the "intent" standard. I will also argue in some detail on Monday the constitutionality of the standard of "reason-to-believe." I would just like to note for the record and put in the RECORD a list of over 100 law professors, the most out- spoken one of whom is Prof. Philip Kurland of the University of Chicago. They all say that, the "reason-to-be- lieve" language is unconstitutional as it is applied in the proposed statute. One other point I would like to make-there are many more to make, but just one other point at this junc- ture-the Senator from Rhode Island, as he always is. is completely candid, and let me be completely candid. The argument is not whether or not this administration wants the Bides lan- guage or the Chafee language more. It wants the Chafee language more, there is not any question about it. This says, "We want the Chafee language," but they also said in testimony before our commit- tee, they have always said repeatedly, that the Biden language can get the job done. What we are about here is getting the job done of putting these folks in jail who are, in fact, attempting to impede or impair the foreign intelli- gence activities of the United States of America. I suggest to you that in our public and private conversations the adminis- tration feels fairly strongly about it. But they also feel fairly strongly about the Senator from Rhode Island, and I would. too, if I were a Republi- can President. He is one of the most competent people they have, and if he came to me and said, "This is impor- tant to me, but I think this is right- not that it is important to me person- ally-but this is the way to go, and both of them will get the job done, but the Chafee language will do the job," I would sure say, "The Chafee one is the one I want." I admit that this administration does not think-it has consistently not thought-that the Chafee language could be unconstitutional. So looking at it from the President's side of the ledger he says, "Both can get the job done. One is constitutional, one is in- troduced by BnxN. not a very strong supporter of mine, and the other one is introduced by the Senator from Rhode Island. Which one am I going Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 S 1178 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 - CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE February 25, 1982 to go with? Of course, I am going to go with the Chafee one." But that is not really the issue. The issue is, on my side of the argument, "Look, it simply comes down to this: Why take a chance on its being uncon- stitutional? Why take a chance on it being harder to get a prosecution be- cause the statute is struck down and go with the Chafee language when we both admit they both get the job done?" The Chafee side of the argument, I would suspect, comes down in the final analysis to, "Look, even though they can both get the job done, they are both constitutional, why fool around with the Biden language because I think ours can get the job done better and faster?" I mean, we are really arguing on the margins here, and I am constrained to wind up now because there is a very strong supporter of this position of the committee's who wants to speak now. Again I will have much more to say, but I would like very much to submit for the RECORD, and I ask unanimous consent, a list of all those law professors who concurred with the position I just took, and a letter from Professor Kurland be printed in the RECORD, along with a letter from Laur- ence H. Tribe, professor of law at Har- vard University to Senator KENNEDY in September of 1980. There being no objection, the mate- rial was ordered to be printed in the RECORD, as follows: PROFESSOR KURLAND ON S. 2216 Perhaps the sharpest and most succinct scholarly criticism of S. 2216 came from Philip B. Kurland, Professor of Law at the University of Chicago and one of the na- tions leading constitutional scholars: Hon. EDWARD KENNEDY, Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C. DEAR SENATOR KENNEDY: In response to your request, I can frame my opinion on the constitutionality of Sec. 501(c) very precise- ly. I have little doubt that it is unconstitu- tional. I cannot see how a law that inhibits the publication, without malicious intent, of in- formation that is in the public domain and previously published can be valid. Although I recognize the inconstancy and inconsisten- cy in Supreme Court decisions. I should be very much surprised if that Court, not to speak of the lower federal courts, were to le- gitimize what is, for me, the clearest viola- tion of the First Amendment attempted by Congress in this era. With all good wishes, Sincerely yours, PHILIP B. KURLAND. We believe that Sections 601(c) of S. 391 and 501(c) of H.R. 4, which would punish the disclosure of the identity of covert CIA and FBI agents derived solely from unclassi- fied information, violate the First Amend- ment and urge that they be deleted. Charles Abernathy, Professor of Law, Georgetown University Law School. Bruce Ackerman, Professor of Law, Yale University Law. School. Barbara Aldave, Professor of Law, Univer- sity of Texas Law School. George Alexander, Professor of Law, Uni- versity of Santa Clara Law School. Judith Areen, Professor of Law, George- town University Law School. Peter L. Arenella, Professor of Law, Rutgers University School of Law. Richard Arens, Professor of Law, Univer- sity of Bridgeport School of Law. Charles E. Ares; Professor of Law, Univer- sity of Arizona College of Law. Robert Aronson, Professor of Law, Univer- sity of Washington School of Law. Frank Askin, Professor of Law, Rutgers University School of Law. Barbara Babcock, Professor of Law, Stan- ford University. Fletcher Baldwin, Professor of Law, Uni- versity of Florida College of Law. Elizabeth Bartholet, Professor of Law, Harvard University Law School. Patrick Baude, Professor of Law, Indiana University School Law School. Paul Bender, Professor of Law, University of Pennsylvania Law School. Carolyn Bratt, Professor of Law, Univer- sity of Kentucky College of Law. Ralph S. Brown, Jr., Professor of Law, Yale University Law School. Burton Caine, Professor of Law, Temple University School of Law. Oscar Chase, Professor of Law, New York University School of Law. Paul Chevigny, Professor of Law, New York University School of Law. Michael Churgin, Professor of Law, Uni- versity of Texas Law School. Richard A. Chused, Professor of Law, Georgetown University Law School. Robert Emmet Clark, Professor of Law Emeritus, University of Arizona College of Law. Sherman Cohn, Professor of Law, George- town University Law School. Tom A. Collins, Professor of Law, College of William and Mary, Marshall-Wythe Law School. Vern Countryman, Professor of Law, Har- vard University Law School. Alan M. Dershowitz, Professor of Law, Harvard University Law School. Norman Dorsen, Professor of Law, New York University School of Law. Steven B. Duke, Professor of Law, Yale University Law School. Thomas I. Emerson, Professor of Law Emeritus, Yale University Law School. Nancy S. Erickson, Professor of Law, Ohio State University College of Law. David B. Filvaroff, Professor of Law, Uni- versity of Texas Law School. Caleb Foote, Professor of Law, University of California Law School. Jack Getman, Professor of Law, Yale Uni- versity Law School. Steve Gillers, Professor of Law, New York University School of Law. David Goldberger, Professor of Law, Ohio State University College of Law. Peter Goldberger, Professor of Law, Vil- lanova University School of Law. Louise Graham, Professor of Law, Univer- sity of Kentucky Law School. Arthur S. Greenbaum, Professor of Law, Ohio State University College of Law. Linda S. Greene, Professor of Law, Temple University School of Law. Trina Grillo, Professor of Law, Hastings College of Law. Daniel Halperin, Professor of Law, Georgetown University Law School. Charles Halpern, Professor of Law, Georgetown University Law School. Joel Handler, Professor of Law, George- town University Law School. Michael C. Harper, Professor of Law, Boston University Law School. Lawrence Herman, Professor of Law, Ohio State University College of Law. Morton J. Horwitz, Professor of Law, Har- vard University Law School. John M. Hyson, Professor of Law, Villan- ova University School of Law. Stanley Ingber, Professor of Law, Univer- sity of Florida College of Law. Louis A. Jacobs, Professor of Law, Ohio State University College of Law. Peter Jaszi, Professor of Law, American University, Washington College of Law. Arthur Kinoy, Professor of Law, Rutgers University School of Law. Lewis Kornhauser, Professor of Law, New York University School of Law. John R. Kramer, Professor of Law, Georgetown University Law School. Stanley K. Laughlin, Professor of Law, Ohio State University College of Law. Howard Lesnick. Professor of Law, Univer- sity of Pennsylvania Law School. John Leubsdorf, Professor of Law, Boston University Law School. Allan Levine, Adjunct Professor of Law, Cardozo School of Law. Sanford Levinson, Professor of Law, Uni- versity of Texas Law School. John Levy, Professor of Law, College of William and Mary, Marshall-Wythe Law School. Lance Liebman, Professor of Law, Harvard University Law School. Jeffrey A. Meldman, Professor of Law, Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Louis Menand, Professor of Law, Massa-, chusetts Institute of Technology. Roy Mersky, Professor of Law, University of Texas Law School. Elliot Millstein, Professor of Law, Ameri- can University, Washington College of Law. Arvil Morris, Professor of Law, University of Washington School of Law. Jack Murphy, Professor of Law, George- town University Law School. Winston P. Nagan, Professor of Law, Uni- versity of Florida College of Law. Barry Nakell, Professor of Law, University of North Carolina Law School. James C. Oldham, Professor of Law, Georgetown University Law School. Joseph A. Page, Professor of Law, George- town University Law School Richard D. Parker, Professor of Law, Har- vard University Law School. Daniel Partan, Professor of Law, Boston University Law School. Cornelius Peck, Professor of Law, Univer- sity of Washington School of Law. Willard H. Pedrick, Professor of Law, Ari- zona State University College of Law. Leroy Pernell, Professor of Law, Ohio State University College of Law. Michael Perry, Professor of Law, Ohio State University College of Law. - Daniel H. Pollitt, Professor of Law, Uni- versity of North Carolina Law School. Andrew Popper, Professor of Law, Ameri- can University, Washington College of Law. Scot Powe, Professor of Law, University of Texas Law School. John Quigley, Professor of Law. Robert Sedler, Professor of Law, Wayne State University Law School. Louis Michael Seidman, Professor of Law, Georgetown University Law School. Ed Sherman, Professor of Law, University of Texas Law School. Andrew Silverman, Professor of Law, Uni- versity of Arizona College of Law. James Simon, Professor of Law, New York Law School. Aviam Soifer, Professor of Law, Boston University Law School. Philip Sorensen, Professor of Law, Ohio State University College of Law. Girardeau A. Spann, Professor of Law, Georgetown University Law School. Roy Spence, Professor of Law, University of Arizona College of Law. Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 S1180 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 - CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE February 25, 1982 better to err on the side of maybe not being constitutional but allegedly pro- tect the civil liberties of more of the people involved, those publishing, by the "reason-to-believe" standard. I should note to you that none of the people we are worrying about pro- tecting agrees with the Senator from Rhode Island. None of the newspaper people, none of the people who are the ones who would be in the third catego- ry, the good folks, the good guys, the white-hat folks whom the Senator from Rhode Island says he believes he can protect better by the "reason-to- believe" standard happen to agree with him. So in the final analysis I am saying why not err on the side of sticking with standard language which we know in 9999/ioo percent gets the job done, and gets the job done with the fewest constitutional problems. Let me finish by saying that there is more to be said, which I will say later. I yield the floor. Mr. QUAYLE. Mr. President, today we take up S. 391, the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, a bill which would make criminal the disclosure of the identities of covert intelligence of- ficers and agents. Different penalties and elements of proof are required de- pending on whether the defendant is a present or former employee of the Government and depending on wheth- er or not he had authorized access to classified information. There is a crying need for this legis- lation which is long overdue. We should all be aware of the tragedies which have occurred in the recent past as the result of published allegations that a certain individual was a covert intelligence officer or agent. While I am certain that there are many exam- ples, I will mention only two: the abominable assassination in 1975 of Richard Welch after being identified as a CIA officer by Philip Agee in Counterspy magazine, and the at- tempted assassination of a U.S. Em- bassy employee just 48 hours follow- ing a published allegation by Louis Wolf in the Covert Action Information Bulletin that the employee worked for the CIA. Mr. President, the destructive effect of such disclosures must be stopped. I believe, and the public recognizes, that there is a compelling need for the leg- islation we are debating here today. The controversy and disagreement about S. 391 really swells around one section of the bill-section 601(c) which addresses itself to that class of persons who identify a covert agent but who have not had access to classi- fied information. It is this section in which the balance is most precarious between the undeniable need to pro- tect our intelligence agents and the equally compelling need to protect first amendment rights. Mr. President, I believe that section 601(c) as reported by the Senate Judi- ciary Committee maintains this crucial balance. That section reads: (c) Whoever, in the course of an effort to identify and expose covert agents with the intent to impair or impede the foreign intel- ligence activities of the United States by the fact of such identification and exposure, dis- closes to any individual not authorized to re- ceive classified information, any informa- tion that identifies an individual as a covert agent, knowing that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such individual's classified intelligence relation- ship to the United States, shall be fined not more than $15,000 or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. This language, the so-called intent language, is narrowly drawn to define and punish specific conduct. The intent language is intended to reach the activities of the Covert Action In- formation Bulletin and similar groups, and it does reach them. I am confident that section 601(c) as drafted by the Judiciary Committee will allow suc- cessful prosecution of those who are engaged in the destructive activity of naming names. This legislation is not intended to chill legitimate debate on intelligence issues or to censor stories such as those we read daily in the New York Times or Washington Post. The Judi- ciary Committee language does not do that. In my view, it is constitutional and effectively carries out the objec- tive of the legislation which is to deter individuals who name names with the intent to harm the United States and our intelligence agencies. In order to successfully prosecute such individuals, S. 391 as passed by the Judiciary Committee would re- quire the Government to prove each of the following elements beyond a reasonable doubt: That the disclosure was intentional; That the covert relationship of the agent to the United States was properly classified infor- mation and that the defendant knew it was classified; That the defendant knew that the Government was taking affirmative measures to conceal the agent's relationship to the United States; and That the disclosure was made as part of an overall effort to identify and expose covert agents for the purpose of impairing or impeding the foreign intelligence activi- ties of the United States through the mere fact of such identification and exposure. This is a narrowly drawn statute-as all statutes which touch upon rights protected by the first amendment should be-and I believe that its con- stitutionality will be sustained by the courts. I am much less certain, however, that a bill which incorporates the original language of section 601(c) could pass constitutional muster. That language, which adopts a reason-to-be- lieve standard rather than the intent standard drafted by the Judiciary Committee, is overly broad and could indeed abridge the exercise of first amendment rights by legitimate jour- nalists. Certainly the journalists be- lieve that it would. Every major national press group in the country opposes replacing the intent standard with the reason-to-be- lieve standard. Their concerns have been continually expressed to me in letters and meetings over the past sev- eral months. I would like to quote from a letter signed by the representa- tives of the Society of Professional Journalists, the American Newspaper Publishers Association, the National Newpapers Association, the Associ- ation of American Publishers, the Re- porters Committee for Freedom of the Press and the National Association of Broadcasters. One section of their letter reads: The "reason to believe" language would, on its face, apply to a reporter who seeks to inform Congress and the public about cor- rupt, illegal, improper or questionable intel- ligence activities under circumstances where the identities of present or former covert agents are necessary to the story. One major news article which might not have been published under this formulation could be the recent revelations about Frank J. Terpil. The "reason to believe" language places editors and reporters in the position of having to risk a criminal violation or prosecution in order to publish news reports which they honestly believe to be in the public interest.. In this sense, we are per- suaded that the Judiciary Committee ver- sion of the bill, with its "specific intent" standard, presents far less serious pre-publi- cation problems for the press. My opposition to a "reason-to-be- lieve" standard, however, has evolved from additional concerns that go beyond the constitutional questions raised by the journalistic and legal community. First of all, intent is the appropriate element for a criminal statute. "Reason-to-believe" implies a negli- gence standard and this is not a negli- gence statute. Second, the objective "reason-to-be- lieve" standard: "What would a rea- sonable man believe would be the re- sults of his actions," raises serious pro- secutorial questions. For example, it would force the Government to make public at the trial more classified in- formation than it would want to and certainly more than is required in a prosecution under the "intent" stand- ard. Under a reason-to-believe standard it suddenly becomes relevant to the de- fendant's case what effect the disclo- sure had or would have on certain in- telligence activities. In other words, the objective "reasonable man" stand- ard necessarily forces the Government to reveal what the agent, whose cover was blown, was doing in the country to which he had been assigned. Such in- formation would not have to be re- leased under the "intent" standard be- cause it would be irrelevant. A "reason-to-believe" standard could, thus, chill not only legitimate journal- ism, but also the very prosecutions which this legislation is designed to bring about. The White House, the Justice De- partment and the CIA have all stated that either an "intent" standard or a "reason-to-believe" standard would be acceptable to them. They profess to believe that both are constitutional Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 February 25, 1982 CONGRESSIONAL. RECORD _'SENATE and enforceable. Though. they have expressed their preference for the "reason-to-believe" standard, their top priority seems to be the immediate passage of a bill which would end the destructive and sinister enterprise of naming napies. I believe that S. 391 as reported by the Senate Judiciary Committee will accomplish that end, and will do so in an effective, efficient, and constitu- tional manner, and I urge my col- leagues to support it. Mr. President, I want to pay particu- lar, reference and compliments to my distinguished freshman colleague, Senator DENTON, who has been very active in this and other matters. He has made an ingnense contribution to the committee on which we serve to- gether, and he will continue to make an immense contribution to this Senate. I also want to pay my respects to the distinguished Senator from Rhode Island who continues to be one of the .most respected Members of the Senate. But I must say to these two distin- guished gentlemen that I. disagree with them on this issue. But I do hope that we pursue this debate Monday and Tuesday in the spirit that the Senator from Rhode Island discussed in concluding his remarks. This issue is not an issue over who supports civil rights and who supports the first amendment. We all do. The issue is not over who supports pros- ecuting those who violate' a very strict code of conduct, or over who wants to have agent identity legislation passed, because we all do. The question comes down to what statutory language is the preferable language to achieve both of those goals. There has been a lot of discussion these last few weeks on televising the proceedings of the U.S. Senate. I happen to be a supporter of that. But those who argue on the other side keep pointing out the difference be- tween this body and the other body. They talk about the U.S. Senate as a deliberative body, and they applaud how the U.S. Senate takes its time on very important issues. I hope that Members of this distinguished body do take their time on this very important issue and that we think it through. I hope that we do not jump to an emo- tional conclusion, simply choosing whichever emotion happens to trigger us the most, whether it is the first amendment rights or the need to pro- tect our Nation's security. ? I hope that we think through this process very clearly and very deliber- ately. I hope that we resolve this issue in the way the legislation was reported from the Judiciary Committee. This is the proper resolution to the issue. Basically, Mr. President, the reason-. to-believe language is not preferable to the intent language for two simple reasons. First, I think there is a legiti- mate constitutional question on the reason-to-believe language. As the dis- tinguished Senator from Delaware pointed out, 100 constitutional lawyers and professors in this country have voiced their concerns about the prob- lems of constitutionality. If we really want to have a constitu. tional bill, why not go with the intent language that we know is going to be constitutional and not take a chance that the courts are going to throw the whole bill out? That is why it is per- plexing to me to hear the administra- tion say that they prefer the Chafee and Denton language to the Biden lan- guage, because there is no doubt that the courts would find intent to be con- stitutional. Second, Mr. President, when you are dealing with a criminal statute, intent is the proper standard of conduct. Reason to believe is a negligence standard in civil cases. A criminal stat- ute such. as this should have the mini- mal legal ingredients of what criminal acts do constitute, and that is intent. Mr. President, again, I commend my colleagues. I hope that we proceed along the lines of this debate in the next few days, a line of facts, a line of reasoning, and not one of simple reac- tion to motions without a thorough study. The debate may be intense at times. That is what our debate is all about. If we take our time, I am certain that the Senate will come down to the lan- guage, and I am hopeful it will come down to the language, as reported by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The members of that committee put in a lot of hours. They are the ones that put in a lot of work. A majority of that committee has concluded that the intent language is preferable. I am hopeful that a majority of this body, will agree with them. I yield the floor. Mr. DENTON'addressed the Chair. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alabama. Mr. DENTON. Mr.. President, I thank my distinguished freshman col- league from Indiana and return his sentiments of respect. I admire the equanimity, with which both he and the Senator from Delaware have ad- dressed the issue. I totally concur that we should do so with great delibera- tion. It is my fear that the. complexity of the wording and of some of the thought patterns applied to the rationale are going to defy the com- prehensions of many of our colleagues who, when they come in here to vote, do not have much time to deliberate. I hope there is some attendance to the speakers to the debate which is taking place so, that our collective judgments will be relatively enlightened. . I believe the Senator from Delaware, the minority manager, made reference to the President's preference for the Chafee language on the basis of his being of the same -party, but I may have missed the implication. S 1181 Mr. BIDEN. If I may, I think he pre- fers the Chafee language because he prefers it, but it is also an added incen- tive that it is not the language of the Senator from Delaware. Mr. DENTON. The point I would like to make is that the Carter admin- istration Justice Department also pre- ferred the Chafee language. Mr. CHAFEE. Mr. President, the dis- tinguished Senator from Delaware always has kernels for thought and cogitation. I have been pondering the comment he made that the President was for the Chafee-Jackson language because I was Republican. All weekend I am going to be pondering why the Carter administration was also for this language. Did they look at me as a po- tential convert? I cannot fathom in any way why they too would be sup- portive of my language. Admiral Turner was a Democratic appointee, as head of the CIA. Attorney General Renfrew was a Democratic appointee of the Justice Department. I am still waiting to discover the answer. So I am looking forward to the debate on Monday and hope I find out what par- ticular appeal I might have had to the Carter administration 2 years ago. Mr. DENTON. Mr. President, I would. like to go on record in fully sup- porting the amendment to section 601(c) offered by my friend and distin- guished colleague from Rhode Island. I truly regard it as the best and most appropriate standard by which to criminalize this. statute for naming names resulting from a study of un- classified sources. I must acknowledge before this body, and before anyone covering this session, that I am not a lawyer, but I am supposed to be good at logic. In fact, I did not have to take a course once because I answered a question posed at the beginning of a college course in logic that the man posed for over 50 years of teaching. I do think that I understand enough of the law to apply logic to this situation. It seems to me that we have an in- teresting inversion here, in that we have Democrats and nominal liberals propounding an approach which will be intrusive, one which will involve a subjective standard, one which the dis- tinguished Senator from Delaware proposes. I believe the use of the "intent" standard will open a Pando- ra's box in this particular case, which defeats the objective of avoiding witch hunts. We have the reason-to-believe stand- ard in which the defendant's political belief, past conduct, critical remarks about the Government, et cetera, are all irrelevant. We have a finding by the committee, the very committee to which the Senator from Indiana re- ferred, that: The disclosure of such relationships to un- authorized persons is detrimental to the successful and efficient conduct of foreign intelligence, counterintelligence, and coun- terterrorism activities to the United States, Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 S 1182 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE February 25, 1982 Which tends to support the reason- to-believe standard as a method of proof. But if you go into intent, you get a chilling effect on expression, because you then have to start talking about the man's of woman's past speech or activities, which would be directly rele- vant to proving intent. Clearly, the specific intent standard creates a far greater potential for in- trusive investigations into individual political beliefs. I do not want to be a witch hunter, but I think that, in this particular area, you open that Pando- ra's box. The witch hunt would be un- dertaken frequently as the only means of establishing intent, and perhaps more tragically than that witch hunt- ing is that the effort to establish intent would all too frequently be un- successful. In spite of the fact that the accused might be guilty, it would be unsuccessful. So if we let this erroneous commit- tee amendment stand, which stood on a vote of 9 to 8 with two administra- tions who are expert in this, one Democratic, one Republican, standing against it with, I have to believe, much more expertise and learned fore- thought about the constitutionality, I believe that we will not only be tempt- ing prosecutors into witch hunts, but we will be letting down those coura- geous men and women who risk their lives on a daily basis to preserve the security of this country. It is the KGB which is laughing at this debate, and yet it is being con- ducted on both sides with good will. I think the statute with the specific intent standard rather than a reason- to-believe standard would be counter- productive. It would purport to pro- vide a solution to a serious problem of unauthorized disclosure of intelligence identities without actually doing so. It would raise the specter of the in- trusive techniques and the witch hunts. Mr. EAST. Mr. President, today we are considering S. 391, the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1981. This bill, which has almost 50 cosponsors, of whom I am proud to be 1, is the most significant proposal for the reform and strengthening of the intel- ligence community that the Senate has considered this year. I believe that it is absolutely essential that we pass a bill that would protect the classified identities of American intelligence of- ficers-not just any bill but an effec- tive law that would deter the exposure of their identities, one that is both constitutionally sound and will pros- ecute those who have specialized in the contemptible and pernicious prac- tice of systematic exposures. I believe that until we pass such a law, there is little purpose in talking about the need for a stronger CIA or FBI. In short, we must put our money where our mouth is. I wish particularly to address the issue of the constitutionality of the proposed reason to believe, or objec- tive, standard that was in the original bill as introduced by the Senator from Rhode Island. The objective standard was deleted in the Judiciary Commit- tee by a single vote and an intent or subjective standard was adopted. But, Mr. President, it was the objec- tive standard that I and our 40-odd colleagues chose to cosponsor when we endorsed S. 391. It is this standard also that was overwhelmingly endorsed by the House of Representatives and is now in H.R. 4, the House version of S. 391. Finally, It is the objective stand- ard that is endorsed by the intelli- gence community itself-the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Asso- ciation of Former Intelligence Offi- cers. I wish to confine my remarks to a defense of the reason to believe stand- ard and to urge my colleagues to sup- port and endorse it with me. We are being told, Mr. President, that the objective standard of the reason to believe language is unconsti- tutional, that it fails to define a bad purpose, that its enactment would jeopardize the effectiveness of the bill and also that it would have a chilling effect on legitimate discussion of intel- ligence policy and activities in the public forum. I would like to address these charges seriatim, but I would like first to point out that some of them are mutually contradictory. If reason to believe is unconstitu- tional, it would be overturned by the courts. This is the argument of its op- ponents, who say that they would like an effective bill. Yet they also argue that reason to believe would have a chilling effect. If it is to be overturned, then it obviously could not have a chilling effect. We cannot accept the mutually exclusive propositions that a law would be both effective and inef- fective. In regard to constitutionality, I would like to point out that nine Fed- eral criminal statutes make use_ of the reason to believe standard, and these include both the Espionage Act and Atomic Energy Act. Moreover, five Federal court cases have upheld the reason to believe language as constitu- tional grounds for prosecution. The most significant of these cases is-that of Gorin v. United States, (312 U.S. 19 (1941)), in which the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the reason to believe standard in the Espionage Act of 1917 against the defendant's claim that the language was vague and indefinite- precisely the same charge that is being made today and with as little founda- tion. While it is true, Mr. President, that the intent standard is also constitu- tional and -that the Department of Justice has stated that an intent standard would be acceptable, the ad- ministration, the Department of Jus- tice, and the CIA have been emphatic that they all prefer the reason-to-be- lieve standard, that reason to believe is constitutional and' is a more effective prosecutorial tool. Why Is reason to believe preferable to intent? In order to convict a defend- ant under the intent standard, the burden of proof is far more difficult to establish and actually requires more instuusive investigation than reason to believe. Proof of intent requires in- quiry into the state of mind of the de- fendant before or during the commis- sion of the offense. In the context of the intelligence identities bill, it would also require inquiry into the political and personal associations of the de- fendant-whether, for example, he had been involved with Counterspy or Covert Action Information Bulletin, what his attitude toward intelligence gathering was, and other beliefs and associations. Since those who oppose reason to believe on constitutional and civil libertarian grounds are concerned about such intrusive inquiries, I would think they would prefer the far less intrusive standard of reason to believe. Reason to believe simply means what any reasonable man would be- lieve. Thus, use of this standard would not require any intrusive investigation into a defendant's background nor the presentation of evidence concerning his political and personal associations. For this reason, it is preferable to the civil libertarian as well as to the pros- ecutor. The argument that reason to believe would have a chilling effect on the ex- ercise of first amendment. rights and on discussion of intelligence activities is also without merit and has been grossly exaggerated by the opponents of the bill in the Congress and the media. I would point out first that the U.S. Supreme Court in a 7-to-2 decision this summer in the case of Haig against Agee found that: Agee's disclosures [of' covert agents], among other things, have the declared pur- pose of obstructing intelligence operations and the recruiting of intelligence personnel. They are clearly not protected by the Con- stitution. If the disclosure of agents' identities is not protected by the Constitution, then a law punishing disclosure of Identities cannot have a chilling effect on the exercise of legitimate rights of expression. The chilling effect argu- ment is therefore without foundation. However, the language of the reason-to-believe section has been carefully drafted to avoid interference with legitimate discussion and investi- gation. It is absolutely essential, Mr. President, to bear in mind that reason to believe is only one of the six ele- ments of proof required for conviction in this bill. Section 601(c), as originally intro- duced, contains the reason-to=believe language, which would make it illegal for a person to reveal the identity of a covert agent if that person: First. Knows that the persons to whom he reveals the information are not authorized to receive classified in- formation; Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4 February 25, 1982 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE Second. Knows that the information revealed in fact identifies a covert agent; Third. Intends to disclose informa- tion that identifies a covert agent;. Fourth. Knows that the Govern- ment is taking affirmative measures to conceal the identity; Fifth. Engages in "a pattern of activ- ities intended to identify and expose covert agents"; and Sixth. Has reason to believe that such activities would impair or impede the foreign intelligence activities of the United States. In sum, before a person can be pros- ecuted under the reason-to-believe lan- guage, the prosecutor must prove all five elements of proof in addition to the reason to believe element. Furthermore, one of these elements is already an intent standard, and it must be noted that in those parts of the bill that establish defenses and ex- ceptions, there are three areas of dis- closures that are excluded from any prosecution, including the revealing of a covert identity to the House or Senate Intelligence Committees. This latter exclusion is intended to allow for the disclosure to responsible au- thorities outside the intelligence com- munity of abuses or unauthorized in- telligence activities without danger of prosecution to the disclosing party. To prosecute a journalist who inves- tigates intelligence activities, there- fore, the prosecutor must show that every one of the elements applies. There are few if any legitimate jour- nalistic investigations in which the re- vealing of names or identities would be useful, and it should be noted that the entire investigation of the Church committee into CIA activities took place without a single revelation of a covert identity. In other words, pre- venting the disclosure of agents' iden- tities would not cripple'our ability to learn of or prevent intelligence abuses. It is almost inconceivable, Mr. Presi- dent, that legitimate discussion of in- telligence activities could be prevented or in any way discouraged by the reason to believe language that is pro- posed. I urge my colleagues to join with me in supporting the amendment of S. 391 to adopt the reason-to-believe stand- ard that is so necessary for the protec- tion of our intelligence agencies and their personnel, for the security of our country, and for the strengthening and reform of the intelligence commu- nity.. (By request of Mr. DENTON the fol- lowing statement was ordered to be printed in the RECORD:) ? Mr. THURMOND. Mr. President, this proposal to amend S. 391 would restore the original language of sec- tion 601(c). In both versions of the bill, this sec- tion addresses the situation in which a person who does not have direct access to classified information knowingly identifies individuals as covert agents of the United States. Beyond this gen- eral statement, the technical subtle- ties of the separate versions make them quite distinct, and because I feel that the amendment offered by the distinguished Senator ' from -Rhode Island embodies the preferable ver- sion. I support its adoption. The language of the proposed amendment reflects the requirement that a putative defendant be involved in the course of a pattern of activities which is intended to identify and expose covert agents. As defined in section 606(10) of the bill, this re- quires a series of acts with a common purpose or objective. Clearly, then, a amount-to a violation of the act. Moreover, this amendment m defendant, while participating in suc a pattern of activities, possessed reason to believe that these activities would impair or impede the foreign in- telligence activities of this country. This standard has been the object of much debate and discussion due to its so-called reasonable man aspect, which, it has been said, is a departure from customary criminal law stand- ards. However, in the field of espio- nage laws. this standard is quite con- sistent. For example, 18 U.S.C. 793(e) pun- ishes unauthorized disclosure of . na- tional defense information which the person "has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation." Similarly, 42 U.S,C. 2274(b) punishes disclosure of restricted atomic energy data "with reason to be- lieve such data will be utilized to injure the United States or to secure an advantage to any foreign nation." This statute clearly distinguishes disclosure "with intent to injure the United States or with intent to secure an advantage to any foreign nation," which is punished under section 2274(a) with more severe penalties. Therefore, the language of the amendment is consistent with past leg- islation where Congress has punished disclosure without requiring proof of specific intent, but rather proof that the reasonable foreseeable result would be injury to the United States or advantage to a foreign power. I believe the amendment of my dis- tinguished colleague from Rhode Island not only is consistent with prior law in this area, but also offers greater protection for the rights of individ- uals. It must not be forgotten that in any prosecution under this act each and every element must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to the sat- isfaction of the triers of fact, not only as to the requisite belief of the wrong- doer, but also as to his involvement in a pattern of activity. I finally want to remind my fellow Senators of the words of the Supreme Court when it decided Haig against Agee this past June: S 1183 It is "obvious and unarguable" that no governmental interest is more compelling than the security of the Nation. Protection of the foreign policy of the United States is a governmental interest of great impor- tance, since foreign policy and national se- curity considerations cannot neatly be com- partmentalized. Measures to protect the secrecy of our Government's foreign intelligence oper- ations plainly serve these interests. Thus, in Snepp against United States, we held that "[tlhe Government has a compelling inter- est'in protecting both the secrecy of infor- mation so important to our national secu- rity and the appearance of confidentiality so essential to the effective operation of our foreign intelligence service." (Citations omitted.) I firmly believe that the interest of our Government would be afforded greater protection with the addition of this amendment to this bill, and I urge its adoption.? COMMEMORATING ROGER WILLIAMS Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, I ask that the Chair lay before the Senate a message from the House of Repre- sentatives on Senate Concurrent Reso- lution 64. The PRESIDING OFFICER laid before the Senate the following mes- sage from the House of Representa- tives: Resolved, That the resolution from the Senate (S.' Con. Res. 64) entitled "Concur- rent resolution to authorize the Zeta Beta Tau fraternity to conduct a reception in the rotunda of the Capitol. on March?31, 1982, to commemorate Roger Williams for his con- tribution to religious toleration and freedom in the United States", do pass with the fol- lowing amendments: Strike out all after the resolving clause, and insert: That appropriate ceremonies are authorized to be conducted in the rotunda of the Capitol on March 31, 1982, to com- memorate Roger Williams for his contribu- tions to religious toleration and freedom in the United States. These ceremonies shall be conducted in accordance with conditions prescribed by the Architect of the Capitol. Amend the title so as to read: "Concurrent resolution to -authorize ceremonies in the ro- tunda of the Capitol for March 31, 1982, to commemorate Roger Williams for his con- tributions to religious toleration and free- dom in the United States,". Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, I move that the Senate concur in the House amendments. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is on agreeing to the motion. The motion was agreed to. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is on agreeing to the concur- rent resolution. The concurrent resolution, as amended, was agreed to. Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote by which the concurrent resolution, . as amend- ed, was agreed to. Mr. BIDEN. Mr. President, I move to lay that motion on the table. The motion to lay on the table was agreed to. Approved For Release 2009/01/12 : CIA-RDP85-00003R000200060015-4