National Security council Intelligence Committee WORKING GROUP Minutes of the Sixth Meeting

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National Security Council Intelligence Committee
WORKING GROUP
Minutes of the Sixth Meeting
1430 Hours , 3 October 91 72
DCI Conference Room, CIA Headquarters
Mr. Bronson Tweedy, D/DCI/IC, Chairman presiding. Members
present were: Mr. Andrew Marshall, NSC Staff; Dr. Ray S. Cline
and Mr. Seymour Weiss, Department of State; Dr. Albert C. Hall,
Vice Admiral Vincent P. de Poix, and Brig. General Richard A.
Bresnahan (representing Lt. General Seith), Department of Defense;
Mr. Bernard A. Wells (representing Mr. Maroney), Department of
Justice; Dr. EdwW062haor and M-- W. Huizenga, CIA.
Others present: Executive Secretary;
Capt. George Pickett, C Staff, and Mr. Richard Curl, Department
of State.
Agenda Item 1: Minutes of the 6 July meeting
The minutes distributed on 11 July were approved
as amended by changes proposed by Dr. Cline. The principal change.
was addition of comments on the quality of the India-Pakistan-
crisis study. (Copies of the amended minutes are being distributed).
Agenda Item 2: India-Pakistan Crisis Study
Discussion centered on the draft memorandum Mr. Marshall
had prepared for forwarding to the Chairman, NSCIC, requesting NSCIC
consideration of problems discussed in the study involving communication
of intelligence needs from pol_icy__levels.to the intelligence .community,
communication of intelligence judgments to policy levels, and the content
and quality of the intelligence community response to policy.level needs.
The group approved the draft memorandum as amended by
proposals from the Chairman,-Dr. Cline, Mr. Weiss, Dr. Hall and
Mr. Huizenga, and authorized the Chairman to forward copies of the
memorandum to the Chairman and members of the NSCIC.
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Agenda Item 3: On-Going studies
Mr. Marshall reported the status of studies under
his cognizance as follows:
NSSM-69 - Re-draft by Capt. Pickett will be completed
by 1 November.
Arab-Israeli Ceasefire - Outline of the final report
and listing of identified issues is not yet ready but a study draft
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Jordan/Fedayeen Civil War -
study well in hand and should have a draft by 1 November.
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non-availability of personnel has prevented actual initiation of the
study effort. Mr. Marshall said he had noted a slackening in provision
of study support by participating organizations. The discussion which
followed centered on non-availabilit to the study group of CIA er
2 5X1A2 G sonnel who are knowledgeable on and the need for a reex4mination
of the adequacy of terms of reference for the study. Mr. Marshall agreed
to review the entire problem once again.
Dr. Hall reported the status of the study under his
cognizance as follows:
Cruise Missile - The task group has distributed two
questionnaires to users requesting assessment of the content and
usefulness of pertinent intelligence products. Responses are now due
and the final report will be available by the end of October.
Agenda Item 4: Studies of Intelligence Production Proposed by Dr. Cline
The group agreed to initiate the Yugoslavia study
immediately, but to defer further consideration of studies of Chile
and NSSM-108 until toward the end of the year. A study of Yugoslavia
was looked upon as particularly timely in view of the potential for
a near-term crisis situation there. Because of objections raised to
the NSSM-108 topic, the Chairman asked that group members whose organiza-
tions would be involved in such a study reexamine its suitability.
The group agreed it would be worthwhile to use outside
consultants in the Yugoslavia study. Dr. Cline estimated that $2,000
should be sufficient for consultants' fees and he considered the INR
Office of External Research probably could provide such a sum. Both
Dr. Hall and Dr. Proctor expressed willingness to investigate the
availability of funds if such proved necessary.
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Dr. Cline nominated Kenneth Kerst of INR as Chair-
man of the task rou for the Yugoslavia study, and Dr. Proctor
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A to oversee the project through agreement on the terms of reference.
Agenda Item 5: Manpower and Cost Trends in U.S. Intelli ence
Production FY 1966 - FY 1973
After considerable discussion the study was remanded
to a task group for revision and expansion to work out definitional
problems, verify the statistical data, amplify the presentation of
meaningful changes and identified trends, and the reasons therefore,
and to address the adequacy of the present resource situation as basis
for a new set of recommendations.
Dr. Proctor, Dr. Hall and Dr. Cline each considered the
manpower data obtained concerning his organization from the CIA/PPB,
DOD/FYDP and INR were not correct. Dr. Proctor urged that manpower be
presented in terms of "average employment" rather than authorized positions.
Mr. Weiss asked that additional attention be given to "constant dollars'.'
to show the impact of inflation.
The group noted the study was intended only for its
background use, but Mr. Weiss felt the question of current adequacy
of resources should be addressed to make the study useful to policy
makers. Admiral de Poix considered that since reallocation of resources is
unlikely, the study should seek to provide basis for leverage which
would result in the use of better production techniques. Mr. Marshall
expressed surprise at some of the changes indicated by the statistics
and thought more attention should be directed to explaining the basis
for the changes.
Agenda Item 6: Survey of Current Intelligence Publications
The study was remanded to a task group for restructuring,
for further examining the publications in terms of national, departmental
and command intelligence, and for assessing whether some of the reports
which the producers su%itted as current intelligence publications should
not more properly be classified as raw information.
In opening the discussion the Chairman reported that the
DCI, on the basis of his own personal review of the study, had sent a
memorandum to the Chairman, NSCIC, requesting confirmation that the present
scope and character of current intelligence coverage is in keeping with
today's U.S. security and policy interests, and a memorandum to the
directors of production organizations asking that they review the require-
ments on which their current intelligence publications are based and
re-check the dissemination of these products against "need to know"
criteria.
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Admiral de Poix noted he had been somewhat reassured
by the results of the survey. Dr. Proctor said his concern related
primarily to the structure of the study, which discussed the 316
submissions as a total before describing the factors which he felt
limited the significance of the total. He considered many of the
publications submitted by producers were really raw information,
and he thought most of the publications submitted by CIA were not
really current intelligence. It was his view that publications
which appeared in multiple versions should not be listed as separate
items. In noting that State had submitted only one report, Dr. Cline
explained that INR operates on the basis of oral briefings from
cables rather than through preparation of publications. He considered
the survey had definitional problems which should be examined and he
asked that the study delve more deeply into differentiation among
types of publications, particularly in view of the large number of
NSA inputs to the survey.
The meeting adjourned at 1600 hours. No da e was
cot for the next meetinn
Bronson Tweedy
Chairman, NSCIC Working roup
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