ADMIRAL TURNER'S QUESTION: 'COMMENTS ABOUT CIA AND INTELLIGENCE MADE BY PRESIDENT CARTER PRIOR TO AND SUBSEQUENT TO THE ELECTION'

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MEMORANDUM FOR:
SUBJECT
11 February 1977
Commander, USN
Executive Assistant to the
DCI-Designate, ADM Stansfield Turner
? ? Admiral Turner's Question: "Comments
about CIA and intelligence made by
President Carter prior to and subsequent
to the election"
President Carter has made very few public comments about the
CIA or about intelligence. Other than his remark that he has
confidence in Mr. Knoche and that the CIA is in good hands (see
2 February Washington Star article attached as Tab A), the most
pertinent Carter statement was in Time of 3 January (extract
attached as Tab A), when he said that he will not. make "precipitous
changes" in the Intelligence Community and that his knowledge of the
Community outside the CIA was very limited. He has made no public
statement (of which we are aware) since 20 January that would imply
a change in his 3 January position. In response to questions about
an "intelligence czar," he said he hadn't decided whether or not to
change the present arrangement where the DCI already is a kind of
"intelligence czar."
(NOTE: Prior to his swearing-in, the President-elect discussed
intelligence, the Community, and CIA privately with
George Bush and other CIA officials I hold the
classified file on these sensitive discussions and
can make it available to Admiral Turner when he
wishes - although none of the material is public and
therefore could not be used during the Admiral's open
confirmation hearings. In addition, Richard Lehman
(Deputy to the DCI for National Intelligence) was in
charge of intelligence support to the President-elect,
met with him on several occasions, and is prepared to
brief Admiral Turner on these meetings.)
A. Specific Statements: post-election (attached as Tab A)
--'19 December 1976 New York Times article. President-elect
states he is studying the question of separating the
functions of the DCI and the head of CIA in the light
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of his wish to have more than one source of intelligence
coming to him. (NOTE: This concept was of considerable
interest to Vice-President Mondale when he served on the
Church Committee. We will send you material from the
Church Committee report shortly.)
1 December 1976 Victor Zorza article and 17 November 1976
Economist (Foreign Report) article. The Zorza article
is written on the basis of interviews with Schlesinger,
25X1 and Ray Cline, the latter two of whom have
published very specific ideas about CIA and Community
organization. The Economist article sets forth Cline's
views.
20 November - 1 December 1976: Several articles centered
on the George Bush 19 November sensitive intelligence
briefing of the President-elect. These articles contain
no direct quotes from the President-elect.
B. Specific Statements: pre-election (attached as Tab B)
8 October 1976 transcript of Ford/Carter debate of
7 October. Governor Carter refers to "CIA revelations"
as contributing to the "deep hurt" done to the American
people, and includes CIA in a list of situations such
as Vietnam, Cambodia, Chile, Pakistan, Angola, and
Watergate. He also deplores "secrecy" in negotiations
and the "secret treaties" which have supported dictator-
ships and ignored human rights.
25 September 1976 transcript of Ford/Carter debate of
24 September. President Ford referred to his reorga-
nization of the Intelligence Community, but as Governor
Carter began his reply by pointing out there has been a
breakdown in the trust of the American people in their
government, the television audio failed. (NOTE: There
was one accusation that the CIA had been responsible
for this failure.) When the debate renewed, Governor
Carter said that there was too much government secrecy
and not enough respect for the privacy of American
citizens. He later said that the "U.S. system of
government - in spite of Vietnam, Cambodia, CIA, Watergate
is still the best system." (NOTE: Governor Carter's
references to CIA and revelations about it were not
expanded on by the press. Since the election, we have
seen no statements of a like nature.)
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14 August 1976 Washington Star article revealing
Governor Carter's public endorsement of DCI Bush as
having instituted the changes in CIA required by
Congress. (NOTE: This statement by Governor Carter
was welcomed by CIA because it helped take CIA [and
intelligence generally] as an issue out of the political
campaign.)
22 July 1976: Governor Carter requests briefings on
intelligence and foreign affairs from the CIA rather
than from State. The article speculates that Governor
Carter thought State's briefings would be colored by
policy considerations.
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!Hughes was also on, t'e. Voriginale-"alcles have discu, -. f, the CIA 'job
hence Agency, H. Enno Knoche, to be
list" of tandidates for appointment to :: with MOW, 1 N, so `, -... fion.'t. ),-,if(i W
permanent head of the agency, a top ..
sfficial said today , ....-:.:-. 0: any of a number of _poeitines in the whether
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-.. ANOTHrR NANIE that has heeh ,- Concern'efeg apother-.7 appoinf.ri)eilf,
Carter has "a lot of confidence" in ".''
..! ..,...c, _. ?.;...?,..: mentioned in ? press speculation -. ig jio"rdan coetirrnec-1 --,-;,.-. cprter ,,,);,m,
Knoche. - : ._-.? i .-.? that of former White House pres- to.-non-Jbe-,!.e\frra's1,.1-e eitere "-.att(e, ),(?,v
'. Knoche took over as acting . CIA:
sece-etary ? Bill MC' 1,' t'X'S.;. ,, 81It ' J,.3i .';',.-n1 ' '..'1;ri-.11..Vir..,--o ,.,,=.?.1-.. e-S-.11c.;_..-u- ..-(-.1",',. "l'he k.i.yer,-?
- - director :on Jan .,:!25 with the. resigna-e.
. _el- ? ,-control ?fe0.0. ?Diatineeial.1;ent. Ay,Nif y
Ation .of George Bush; Who was'direb.- .-ani .as-e:e;Fef:1,1,s:, :_ne5,,otiator ii, 'Ole
tar under President Forfli. arid after: -...stiategic;;eems.,limizzation talks with
Carter's choice.. for- the ..post , Theoe
- the Soviei TiciforL -: 7 ..- . - "-''.'''`-' - "'-'-
' dare C. Sorensen, withdrew his naine- ,, ?
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- ? -trong opposition to the hordioation .e -.soM.-e.,ppp(eiition _in- '---.neeSenate-,...T.or,
that dqveloped in the Senate....?;-!,i,...:.1..-%t : ()err S'r;Ild-)1C' cfoe.7.4. lee.: : thirrfc, there; wir.,
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:that Carer mightnominate Knoche WIly,-." ,:i? 0) ,121.1 SSZil,
' . to be permanent tread Its certainly
an option hehas," the ..lide said.... .-fee?-?. -.`f.--;;;;As' !-or the .Sureense1`nomn;a1ioni
e.:.:.."He thinks it (the ( EA) is in good' i:w)iict-s-.. ,,,:- -z - withcir:T9wry?Torthar 'ire'
" ? :bands' :with,--Mr.e-.-KnQr.,7,he,Jordan, -;lste.C) I)1',1 i -C2:rtel-- ,,,,,?_,:ls- re-edy to fight-
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!added at.?-a.:bri.-,akfist rnee,tink.,:ivith.
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,--,If?The President feels no pressure to ;Jought,c; the aide.,?saic... e?-:-..-..-;--,--,:7,?-:-.......--,
,iiiicklyeannounce..,a new CIA .norni,
"....'?'. Carter f.ai ked,to. ' ,... _lumber of. mem:-
1 nee, Jordan said, esPiCiallybecatise :'. bus of . titc ' Senate -: -1;elligenci-.: '(ornet
of .his regard,for:Knoche'S?ability.to -.alio (.."-ce.` p 1 7or -to-.? : ..,-.)rensert's ':with-1
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. ,.fore: a new nominee is:chosen,"...Jor:. -, nominatf er..),, Jord.:. sal(f. '''.1`t would-4
.:dan said.. !fit...could be:three Or 'four rbe-a f.;igrt of weakne7,ss for a president;
AWeelts..He's.'not,going to:Makelhat .-.:tu ta`zte a Araw v?ota, on N,t.cl-t appoint
,decision until he feels- he has found . ent:,.," 'Jordan said..,? . ; ?..--.,....,,,e,,;:.-.-..-.i
:the best periop to be director of ceii-?
.Ural intelligence).4.,-Ji,,i.'y;.-';'-'.*;;?.;-;,:f.:-..e.,-,,-..-
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- f,?..-,70i1 Sun'clay-? Carter told rePorters-
;;that.there.dre.."six or teven'. people'
? "that I arrilopking at closely" for the
? CIA post. 'Ambrig thee, Jordan con-
.firmed. is Thomas L. Hughes, presi-'
dent of the Carnegie Endowment for
'International: Peace ancl:a ?former
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'':-7'..'''? .'.---'-- .SVa;h1ngtonStarStall Write;
--.??? President Carter may elevate the.
acting head of the Central. I Intelli-
a '
gence Agency, H. Enno Knoche, to be
permanent head of the agency, top
White House official said tockvv, .....:-.':?.-!i
' - ? Varnilton ' Jdrelan. who m'iniageSi
Carter's election campa7gn aro.'. now
is assistant: to the President,- said I, -
Carter has "a lot of confidence", in i':.-
Knoche. ? - : . -.., , .- ? .! - ,,-;', -
'. Knoche took over as acting C&-
director on Jan 2( with the I esigna,' :
Con Of George Rush, who wasee-
lor?under PreSident Fordt and after
- Carter's choice.for the. post. Theo.!
.dare C. Sorenien, withdrew his
' ti ft in I
from consideration inview of thea,1
? ?trong opposition .to the bornioRtion
..t.bal. developed in the.Senate.;`fi,:l.:-.A.
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?7,''.7.IORDAN. SAM _:.i.'it ' is -.possible"
:that Carter-inight nominate Yolfrais
to be permanent head.;:!it'q
an option he has,'.! the bide .
L',_: "Ile thinks it (the CIA) i_ in ood'
- :hands: :witir--h---.K?,:iche r.n?
.!added 'ail: -a...brealij.as t' raivtin vr.ith
, .reporters.;*-:.:--`i;!... ?-?,..,-, ;:-,,':;??.;.- : ..; t?
-?:-.1: .The President feel.rio. pre,sta e,.tb
Alickly, announce-a new; CIA ,rtorhi.,1
3 nee. Jordan st...4d, espeeialty?heat.Re
? ...of ,his regard.forintoche'S a,hility,to_
:run the agency well in the rn.eantime, -.
don't thinl,, it Will be Months be.-
.rfore?- a new nonlinee N;choscr4"lor:
::ctansaicL !!It- could be three Or `four,
J?Weeks..He's.not,going to..,'i. Ake 'that
;decision until he feels he he4s found
:the best oerion to be director: of,cen-
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' POn Sunday -Carter told reporters
Ithat there.dre':"six or Seven". people'
? 1"that I ani-looking at closely" for the
CIA post.-Among these, 'Jordan con-
:firmed, is Thomas L. Hughes, presi--
dent of the Carnegie Endowment for
*International: Peace and?...ia- _former
-intelligence chief at theStatepepart
meet?,.
Ilughes" narni has', 1?,-,uggc
by 'several. people, 'Jordan
*Hughes was also on, the Voriginal.
list" of candidates for appointment to:
.Dny of a number & pecms in the
fcreign poht.y field, the ylli:tc loose
aide said. ,
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AtoTyrErt NAME that 1:s beeh
mentioned -in press speculption
that of former White piess-
secrtary Mayers, But- 3 ort,h.nr,
:said -)\,i :.wr!.--; has-not gotten beyond
the first stage4, where Carter decides
whom?h-wantntc.,-,>:,oF.ider, ? ,
?Veithc:v ?Cartel... nor 'White Houst:
aides Vaye disew;sed the-CIA Joh
with )y; .?10 they don't ki-fow,
whethe he has any deir-i-.1 for I hal
positio, ha-v"aanted 10 be corif.id.
eredi F. think he would be a ser-ion ?
candidate,"Jordan said, ? , - ;
Concerning another .appoinin:16n1,
Isirdan confirmed that Carter- plans
to.yrionainateWa.shiqgtyi tt.r?-nq ;
. .
.Viaroke-as',..116ad. o tins;.
-Disal7nlanient 'Agency
:and negotiator i;iIh
1-strategici.arm.s...1iinitation talks with
rtheSnyi et Union. 7
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f en inkter.s.:.have??:-gentrated
,s qo:e.:, opposition fat- thi:f.:enate.;..1.or;
clan nc.f: think ajo--cwilt
foi: fight ),orninalibn.
"The :President -is 1,5upportiiv; him
fu)ly;!' Jor dan expe:ot
to be '(:(-,nfirrnedo"
the *.Sorenleti? '?oroin.ation
- Was --withdraWn, Jordan -
te6 that-Carei-- Wa5i- ready to fight
4or ---nOininatior: cnr.f.:i }me,
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.(,had no with v10, we- \voulcl:J,ay2
Cnrt,e-r talked,to,a ern-
l)ers, Senatel.qelligertC(:
"-3.? iftee prior -to-?--,;SoceriF;eri's 7:wit
drawL,,1,- -but he will not tlie?
befom sendiw up another
cnnination. Jordan said -''It Would
he-a sign of weakness for a president;
:to take a straw vote on each appoint;
Jordan sa d? . ? ? - - I
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Q. i'Virr.3i t'hofy3e.s do yoe.,
C/A rind the; rera of Hoz., i'..--aeffiger,ce
corni,vremity?
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A. 1 %couldn't make arl.y pecipJu
? changes in the intelligence cop-imunity's
t? functions untilI know more. aLout them.
? My knowledge of the intelligonce corn-
? mvnity outside the CIA is very limited
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ar?
Q.. Ave yc,,, 'hNzry;ng towcz-d tiiJof
i? ntelligezre.e., czar?
A. Well, President Ford's ev.:eutive or-
der set up the Director of *Central in-
telligence as: a kind of czar. There are
several intelli,Tt:nce agencit, as you
i- know, and I haven't decided whether
t to change the present arran3ement,
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to -.1-tea4 :, tilt-. -C'en t'al : Intelligence Agy
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IZ-cseiloch,---7-bufi he`---v--.-signett-111:7a f.r
ii),- in 19/3, accusing : Mr-?_,g-i:isinge-i. of
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- secrecy and ..of svithhol-ding information from top officers on his talks with the Arabs; -
. the Chinese and titc.:! Russians- (Mr Kissinger's regular meetings with the Soviet -
' ambassador) Mr Dobr.p.171-0, with no other American present and -no subsequent -. -
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wrtten suinaries, ere _ctiencly sore point -
. Now Mr Cline has written a boi..A entitled`Se.C.rets Spies and SCholars- ';Nvinieli will
.. .,
-. be Published at the end of this month_ It contains his blueprint for the rernoclellirig of
American intelligencer -s1--..cul;.ng 1,s,6:C. fi the cfo5ing dawn of the CIA as it now exists_ In
.
place of the CIA, Cline. wants to set up- tivli'separate agencies tan innocuously-named
. _
? .Cerita-al Institute. of Foreign Affairs Reseac?ch (Cifar) to consolidate -the work of the
-11rnain analytical staffs7currently employed by the CIA and the _State and DefCnce .
--:'Departments; *and. a. Clandestine Services Staff (CSS) to handle covert op eiati oils, which
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. would- be co ntiolled:by a iniall gcoup.Set up 1.-v-ithin. the White House. Boa; organisations -----
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_would earn- e tind'ertrie--..faire-ttor orantral Intelligence, ,i .position that .would -now
confer cabinet -raak, so that the iriteLli,genCe thief would enjoy equal status.With the
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'...:Secretaries Of State and ljefence, *and Would report directly the President ? :-. ...i , ?-_,-,..'
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.CLEAR, accepted account has
corne:of the six-hour ssion on Nov. 19'
_ between Jimmy Carter and George
i?-Bush in Plains, Ga., but whatever hap-
pened "not.gc-cd for the coontiy.
? - Bush, -:at -the irsistance of Pr-esident
Forod,,- "had:gone . to- Georgia to. brief
President-elect Carter ort-lhe-hation's
senstzeinteNgencv,systemi. -"
_Columnists Evar.s and Neval..... quoting
tr- :inside-..Carter.:sourre,- dehed the-
: ra: t.-eting:as "ritsaster'.'. that en di :et th
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done his job efficiently and wr.a :
. The United-States has received
toi service iron the tirtusually
lied 52-year-old '1`.- eft
hoped that the new. ricif.ident would
_find. a highly responsiti rtiche,-To;
in a move to start binding an opinion-
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r_rx 1. in :Ford -s,kitort 3\;el5or,
. WaS chosen for 1.x.cal reasons, Be
-that one. hy - ?-?
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--..:: Career coldly "cassniing Bush tiiat a new ' tr.- ' ',--"?
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raI.' 1.1,-..i?Ili.perice.: Agency Directic - r., r.
_-).vould ii...4-named on Jan, 2-..1 ? -- one day.-- ,:t---- 1...1 '?,./i,...,-'irxi"t..11'..,`.:i
-. a:tea-ft-le inatiz:ur-cion- -.'"--.-""; .: -- - ----' I, %'''''''';";*
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-.1"; ELT F.21QIIIILIN respected US. Nevis .....:-.3 is'`....'?
- L'asid. -World .E"eport repo; ted that stories - --7.----7-
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of a.."stonnj?-son" 1..),...i.,.i.W.11_ thE., .1.1.Y; 0 . ...,i.,:lE,a et?infry wilh -,'?:?.-
7.1-ind i-Dsen:'dic.--.1&-..,....zited--,-;; that'. thcrii: NV P.'S a
...And -ti.:,:j..,figured Blish`TvieJuld )1,,,, .7,, ...-, f el 1. I h 21. hen': N.lin a man C'?arter \wit&
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gOkad place to start becens-.e.'nfl'aui. it.-.T.,.....-7-t.:- , :::- h a VC: 00. his rean-i if he wanted-to .;--i.(:stire?
le..;;E'tvi.ce,...hzlek.giutcl....i.?--...--,-:, ' . :_---_the countrY that eye.--ythii-ig iim'i I
Bush has..said..notli.ing- of .. his :visit. : 1-1P0ri lpr1-15?'?41-$ Politicc: ----'; -- -.,- --..---- --.t? ?
with. Carter. His words- ?of .r.c..ignat'icin '17 Only -.!-,2, strong family .:,-.0an,- -1,:-,n51.,
gave no . clues: But of one thing :r--.. _some, aniculate and pi-Oven as Cori.-
.
- se.erningly -unequivoc-al notice to Carteic -catte.,, arid hu high lio..ing.!aio.,,,,i. ci,,,, hc. grcssman, AT)Tilz-6.sneor to the..lir,itk?ci,
and President Ford that he would reii.":-' certa`m ---,--';-, they :will bear -"more. ,of Jia tions, U-S. special liai_scirt to tlie 3te--
?-.
.sign as .CIA Di tar Ort Carter's Jan..::?-.. ce-oige. Bus- it .-. -.--.: .---7i- --..-?:- ?-?:-"..: .--". -.public 'of China air'i'd interirli e-rf-,f1-iiency
. hiriai.ig-n--atiOn day.
.. .- . - -_, . -. :--? - ..,:.-..- ; .:'.....::_ ?-.Not too many G-eor:gE1,..B-ush._.ar.f-_,,--0- n'...:-:??? director of CIA; Bush lz-i6ked 3ikeci-toice.-
":.- It".-a-pored.? from' the - tiiiiihg .an-cl the seem. /hese day's--"--",' the citizen-tvoe bipartisan -rria7.erial for Caner.: ... . --".- -
. . . ... .
..--terseries..- of three?-se' conamu--'-uith thP. clean hands, the keen in.tslli- ut - -.. , B it did
. n
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. nication from Bush that it was more --gence and the fervorof undiluted, old-
,. Arid it makes. one wonder if Carit-r-
-. than the..norrnal, "pleasure of the Pre-3i- ' style love of country_ :..-7,--...: .-??,` . _ -.',-' and old-line Democrats are not worried
dent" courtesy resignation. ------*-? -, HE IS THE young man who twice about the George Bush background ?
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- ?-..- If; indeed.; "JirarnY ? it-1St W251-14 irn- almost wound up on the Republican but his future. - ...- -_- _ _
. . pressed with Bush" as the. inside Carter ticket ? with Richard Nixon and with _ It is conceivable., even highly possible,
_ ?:sourcewai quoted by columnists Evans i Gerald Ford. He was cor-sideied "too - 'that the vigorous Republican loyalist.
' arl, agairist Jimmy Carter
. z"and Novak, that is anunfortunate tura. ".? .-
youna and inexperienced" when Nixon could be his party leader male I fin.
' . :, And it collides with tn
. e irnPrs -.'-on fatally opted for Spiro T. Agnew. - ? . - l\laybie even - squared off, head to
--
. .. he. ?.- .... - '
. Carter: publicly gave that Bush had .. He was whiskered out of the place-
.....
:...rmisunderstanding" that ..had? been/ rici-
...i'solved after.: Bush refused to brief cer-.
--ztain Carter" t_np,se.eret
nat ye.t received:se-
--curity? earance.? .-? - ?
Less:- than" a week -later Bursh "gave
AND `MEN whert -;"; orn
(S-
ia and givtin the interiro
r-as director of the troubled and tarter
he gave total assurance in .U.S
-Senate? .confirmaticii hearings ihat
mind would be solely on the rt?:-;ii tic io I ?
:ing of CIA ?not-politics. - ?
-That he did -- rind he did it welL iii
Fia quiefly gone the hu-'nens-- ol
-rebuilding coinfidence the ini.e.1-
"3igence Sy5ier0. lie prorn& at
swearh-ig-in cc rameny that ?no
:no policy bias" Avould _color the
judgment of CIA. . ?:"
. Sc, when he went to Gisorg,iii lo fflHi
tisar .--...earter on the 1CO oucn of for
:ciffn and. clornes.lic it :wa?
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?"?".- 'The departure of Geory,:-....? Bush f.ror,,,i:
-the sooner than anyhody expted. ;
, alid the more startling p,:;ssilaility that
? ":.Treasury S.cretary 'William Simon to.:ty
xrtoonlight for the new administration
stem from the nature of their encouo-
-tors with President-elcTt Uarter dtdng
'the tratisitiiin. -? .1
, Bush's sr hour intelligf.?.nCe .1
Carter at Plains on Nov.. 19, calic{I a.
'.?-??"?disaster- by one- Carter insider,..
followed a -week. later-by Bush's an-
?il?nounce.trient he would quit as director
the . Central -?
? (C3A). But a warm, hour-bug session.be-,
tweet] tatter and Simon at the Treas.:,
ury Nov 22 may produce the se.emingly:
...iimpossible:? the conservative- Republi-
can serving as a part-time consultant. te-
,the Democratic President -
Since holdover CIA directors were
'...retairted in the. 11360:?_ and 1.2. transi-
tlt,2re sN:C?tilatiort that
-..."Bitslt would stay .for six itionths--.-per-
' haps lore.0 it he-kit it oii". with Carter.
rale.d out in PlniiuNo. 1i._
' --".bramy just wasn't- impressed. with
i-Bush7.:a--1ey.?? Cat:le:rite told its:At one
?.point????4?Iien Busa voluutc?ered that the
rt-esi den tielect:. woidd p rc.1 iably pr ef er,
Own .razte-at...CLA, uasmillng-
.,Carter replied 'coolly thatj_was indeed
ca.si, and a new direct.nr.would he_
Simorx has been desccitR:d inSuc-ii
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rh1Decjocr-atictones as reactionaly
,--bogeyrnait that transition. at.the.Treas-
was expected to be 1?.-.TelyCiVii.
i:ClOn't know-anybody in the Ford ?Arran-. -
istration that Jimmy detests as much a 5.
he (10.21 SL-non,'-`-one insider_told us be-;-
'.:forethei7 meeting:a _ - ?
There-was no- sign of that-Nov:
,r.however. Carter asked Sirn.ori whether:.
he: would:tie-avallable for 'Special as,
:7'sigruxtents-next year; and Simon indi-:
,:?cated he would. If that exchange in--
. volves more than simple courtesy, it.
could nteact.Simorf.s help _on- oil price--?
questiorts---mak-ing use' of his excellent: ?
? ??. contacts in the .Arab world.
A footnote: Carter talent_ scouts are.
? clearly looking for a businessnian,-nor:
an economist, to succeed Simon at the::
'--Treasury. Two .intriguing new names
unde.r seriou.s.consideratiom _Alden S.
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From our 0Wri
riefed b
of CIA
Correspondent:: Washington, NoyembeY, 19
Jih-ireT Carter- trirliiy began 7.t
series of ? meetings with
Administration officials ? that
will culminate in a session with.
President Ford on Monday. The
President-Elect was briefed by
the Head -el' do CfA, flr
George Bush, and toruor row he
will be visitcit by Pr Kissinger.
Although Carter has not
left Georgia z..itice the election
more than two weeks, ago. be is
already the focus of all the
attention. The awesomeness of
his rapid translation- from an
almost roknown local politician
to the 39th President will be re-
inforced once again when Dr
Kissinger roakes his trip to the
ripy rommunily of Plains. .
'Fiarlier this. week the Secre-
tary of State, who has travelled
more than a million miles in
the past cight years; joked
quite plausibly that he could
not find Plains on the map.
Mr Bosh brieted Mr Carter
twice during the campaign, but
the President-Elcet has not for-
mally met other' Administration
officials before, lie wilt make
his. first pest-election trip to
'Washington on Sunday for
meetings with the present
Cabinet and the chairman of the
recleyal Reserve-- Board, Mr.
Arthur -Burns, ?
The session with President
Ford, their first encounter since
thu tele.vistio- debates, has no
fornial agenda, according to
Joi! a Marsh, who is in- charge of
arr-ingements .for'? the outgoing
il ??tinisteation. __ ?? .-
(11though Mr Can Ler -himselfi
ir taking a leisurely pace so- as
not to appear oyer-pre.sump-
Vous, his traosition staff has
Pow moved foto its Washingtoi'a
t,: j CP5. Plans are going ahead
for Mr Garter -io produce his
own budget propo.Hs. very soon:
after his lnariguroiion. and -cer-
tainly much earlier than either
Pi-e.sident Kennedy or President
Vi?ixon did. - . .
? In the absurdly long inter-
regnum, the outgoing President.
stilt has the formal responsi-
bility of producing next. year's
budget in Jaroary, even though
be steps d _;iii. two days- later.
Mr Carter's iransition chief,
Jack Watson, has said tat the
new President hopes to- have his
0.- n alternative proposals ready
by -t.'"ebruary 15. _
hese- cannot be ?as detailed
as Mr Ford's becaese be has not
the. . r,..amt.: bureaucratic
apparatus pc-I eec fto, but Mr
Carter wants to submit a
" budge1-in-briet " to supersede
the outgoing Republican one_
, As ica his Cabinet appoint-
ments, which are being eagerly
av,aited, Mr Carter's former
czinipaign directoi, Mr Hamilton
,lw Jan, has. pro-sed that the
Presidei-it-F,leet will start inter- !
1
viewing candidates next week
or early the following week, ?
But announcrnents are us-
likely before mid-December, Mr
Jordan said that the President- I
Elect wanted to reassure the I
business community by appoint-
ing a Secretary of the Treasury .1
who would be a " bridge to
the corporate' ancl financial
worlds_
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. PLAINS, Ga. (AP) ? CIA Director . intelligence-briefing material _given-,
George Bush. briefed President-ele.ct . Ford if he wants it,.
Jimmy Carter for pearly .six. hours 'He will receive siSPihe desire3:7
yesterday on the highly secret meth- Bush 'said, "The ..Prosideut said
ods of the craft of intelligence.' " him "full -access to .,ii'orrussiss and _-
7. Bush . found . Carter's questicnis. ...'that's what he'll rece..i ye."' "right on on target"- and-. said the ? lie said Carter wsi well prepared
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president-elect had obviously done ::for the briefing a-ad 1 nd. l'clearly done -
homework:son ?America7s... operations:ssalot'orrieading since- I. Saw bite last in
abroadthe areas ofstratEg,, uncet
?--: As Bush r et-um-zed to the grasg strip sso T;S::
...that serves-- Plains as an airport.: he .:BUSI-1 CONTINUO tY,',iss clussettr
-told .reporters .hesliad.. visited Presisdiscuss his.ow'n fueussSancideclined to
dent Ford 'before" flying to say:s-vbether or riot Cios po'ssihilit). 0
and was told to give Carter full c c.-es.? rE:maining` as director- had
-.-to any inform ation he might Cc:Are. , been raised at the meeting. Or ss ? ---
?;?? .?It. was--Bush's third int el ligenee ' Nice ---President-slect Walter -
? -briefing,t-far- Carter. and by far sthe.Mondate also-attended the briefing_
complete. , Carter and Mondale are to be brief-
The CIA director said he flow here .today by Secretary of State
to brief the president-elect on a roe- Henry A.Kissinger. .?.
basis usingother agency person- Cat tcr_plans to meet.in_Washingtor:,
.T.nel and se.id Carter. can have the daily '
',oriday with President Ford, Fedeoal
?
their financial holding's and- divest;
themselves of any assets which mihi
pose a conflict. of isote-rest with official!
duties. -
No Cabinet appointments ate lo he;
made before the Dee. 1, bui Powell
- ..-1-sessive Chairman Arthur said he couid nOt role.outthi:
.:?.itaistes?T. Lynn, director-of the CoSce ity Carter might ?arne his choice lo;
-of Management ar.O. Budget, Defense head the Office o Management arc'
? Secretary Donald umsfeld, Treas-_,0-3110get or some other higli edcre
t'...tirys Secretary Vii:Oiarn Simon and .,?. agency before. there.-
:.David Mathews, secretary of health, ,.;;. Named to the council were Ili e }ev,
r_ education and welfare_ . . ;Theodore M. Ilesburgh, president oi
Car ter ,is.sclied to me Ct. -TV Notre Dame University and !sorma
cla.s with members of flown arid airm an of the Civil Right!: Coro inis,
ate foreign affairs corrirnittee5 and. Lane-.77Kirkland, secretaryArc,a.s?-?
committee- chairmen of both -...Surer of the-AFL-CIO; Vernon-Jordan,
bodies. He also has planned a rriecing ,yexecutive..- director - of Jr. fl.b?,,r,
1-v,i11.-n Republican leaders of the. SEil . Carol Foreman, es:essitivc
t and House. ? citric or or the Consumer Federation
Jody. Powell; Carter's press ?sE.-cr-es--s-Of America; Marion Ws-igh t7. Ediel roan,
taros said the sessions are intended to woman who is (5>o:c..(itto
provide evidence that Carter- is sissis.:-.director of the ?Childi-eri. Dr?few.:
i..ous in his efforts to develop.a biparti?-; rrd'7
san approach to foreigrr policy 'a r,..d to Also, Robert Strauss," chrithan of
bring Congress back into-the foreigns: the Democratic National Committee;
IS policy decision-making process-:.-?:.'" -Coya; _chairman of the
ROWELL'IALSO announced ? that:. spanic division of the Carter-Mondale
Carter has named 11 members of the..-,.-carripalg,n; Owen Coope.r,:a Jackson,'
business.; labor, academic and profes- Miss,,. manufacturer who is the for-
s ?nal- communities t?-aa advisory- 7 miter moderator of the Southern Bap-
- - council which is to be at the core of his. tist- Convention; Irving Shapiro,
efforts to seek out "the best available 'Y-chair-mart of the boa id- of the Business
talent". ta fill Cabinerpositions:and-"'Roundtable and chairrnan,,b1. F., I. du-
other high-leve.1 goverrirnentiobs. ---.---rPontDeNernours and Co.,arisl Patti-
Powell said that Charles Kirbo, an-i. cia Roberts ? Harris, ------Prorninent
- Atlanta attorney who is a longtime s:-Washington attorney and chairman of
-.Carter adviser, will be responsible foe-7 the 1972 Democratic National Convert:-
>--.making sure that appointees disclose.-s-LtionsT,5,7,_-_
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17?? ? ??????? .
-..cr? eb of the nation's,"f.er-raog-
: ;in? s37 : apparatus -r.i.ver4sTre7---:
i:ealed 1' to Pm7rlant-e1ect
? ? : -"Carter.: for
. .
.." ? time Friday'. by CIA.-7Director-
Cieorge. Bush.'
:11.11 a five-hour.!. briefing at:,.
?Tal-t errs ? Plains. horne.f.?Bush:
? delved into what he-described'
a-s.`"the.very sensitive matter"'
..or,how intelligence IS achally
Bush dc-rib...id bts'Irieeting
VI% the Preside.nt-elect as ."a
titer:yr-good..,-wide-ranging es
:slam!! indicating that ..Presi-:1
:dgat.terald Ford had ordered
give Carter-_",full.
eE-s o ad. aspects
intelligence
The
? tarter!. had learn ed
. .
.the intelligence ; field
Bt.h-.firs.t-inet
-pr.eVicrus'OccaSior;s, .
- thir3g the .cznapaip'....perind,
_had hrieed Cai ter On.
7:various aspects7of..CIN. opera--;
But those iesSions,'?by,;:
;:xiaatnal.-.7:7;ageternerati:i".:.;"_were.-
.... , the.;
tellige.nee effO'rt..a nd? skirted --
l.ntibif of. hOw: ...the' data
? ? z..came. ILL !." -;??????,- - - 3.. ? .
":....1:f.;?Br-sh and his srnalI cadre of ?
z".Lthe.workings of 'miLitary sur-.
nee. sa telli teit,?-ra
sear- EIa.geiatSf
:.;." ;:t7I.L t.
E:CIA- has dte
V. .
? 13 this-asnece of the CIA's-
f.'es.5111 -which-recently came.:
tinder heavy fire in .Congress.
. of . the -sharpest
con-
;.ion3l critics;.Sen-Nalter.:7
...:1`dooda1e, the vice.e.pres:dent4
. ? -
.:elect,-.sat in on the. sesstons.:-
-- V Mondale planned., to .rernain
;here .overnight at..".a" Carter
guest house in order to attend
- -.a planned brielisid Saturday
, - With retiring --..:S4:retary.= of
? - State HenrigetAP
'Fr)-T"
? t.21
7i!L-7?lii Meeting- briefly yil.h
re-
porters at the Plains.ailstrip,
": where. the CIA chitj landed in.
";?a BuSh
k
left" the impresstoo tbat -... he
?
t6-:stay on lo his
post:.-But ,that-de soo Vh_
Carter
-cdto stay. bp., Or. ..tiettig1/2
Defense -'Secretary;
Schlesinger s'-61-)11A
- parried. intelli:enee"overi.i.
aLtli,J:Jirrbite
:has been
t. Meany,thile;;;.Carten, Piess
.-po,..tr.-a that a election
let-
VtorV tct Ci frOrn, foinner.
Richard'i\lixon" had
..!"a -warm and pe.-rsont
Powell said that. Nixon 'v.:4.
-.? advised the faturi...7presiderir
to get. as: 11160x -rest as, possil:
Pe'
becaii,e
? ? diffieult to- do- alter he had
. .
takeu'on the bur deds- of his of-
hce e?
11,
j-Pciw
ell also .r eased: a.:;.11.st
of thniuttiliti.wliO
r-tify a nd reconimE;iid :Lhekey,
7yrtEnibers of tb new -a droi niS!
?
? ?trati.orr_4.-;;5.
;;?iPowelt":"as.51.-prenl1tive" of
Ethe type.o( people who...will bconsulted byCarteasl1e
it
;;forges his hew adriainistrati`or;..:
f.,;:'-.....Althought.tell..describ
? th e group bal-
Fallczed,'r sorne-, :observers
l'Jhought it .ivis canted toward.
the liberal side. Amon -gsthe it
bl a eks andf our wort-2m?
The. 1.1 arc .tha Rev:
I duck', -president "of-?,
DiOk Lucy Benson, - _
ick; for, pi.e3ftleht..jt'Sue
--of- Vic:[,,i:r) Voters;. -I
4 Vernon ex2;.utive
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p dic,,.....ntor of 1.1..e Urban. League.,."
7(i1orei. executive ,
. :-Coosurner
Ft:..r.lei a tion....-'ot
"iVright?-Edelmaa,... execu-
' tive director' of the.Children's.
Detense"..-Finid -and . a forrnee
flights advo
Tr'ilsu,. Robert St.t.-a Liss, ? chait-----
-otbeDerooctaiic Na-s.
-
Lae_ ay o, director:- of
..?...the United Auto 'Workerzi-and
arr."Hupa leader; -: Lane
rIzIand;- sec!. etary-treasprer
at the AFkCTft
Owen
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Cooper? ai:Yazooz;'.city-,-Mics
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and former
fir.)ntBap-i
friing
Shapjro, chairrnai of
? :PAricia ITafris,
ardj.avitSchool
tort;
7 In
=
elected: officials will he..asked:
to give
'
All the:ad-Vice v-ill flow into
..?-the :Car ter....tiasition
Carter".
diretly.:' But' the: advisers willt
not'Zineet7'21.i7Catiniitte&:ti;
hammer CU rripoimsecl
.....recorririfer.dtations'in advance::
!,i'hree.key :participants:In'
cabniit-huilding,-prckesSi
areqiIonclal e,"-: who .-Will,Serve:
Jorclin; :::;:'Carter'ssi.7?Oantpaigf
';'.;_rnanageri::..who-l-is-T; overall:
- Charge-or:the per-,orin-el effort.
t and Ctiartes?Kirbo; an'Atlanta,.
laweidaild.:1Ongt"..7 Carter?!
- ?
filial
? I irs:at ,
--)ook-for'rrotatial
?
1.
Fresh
o 1 o y ,
fa-c:-arter- to c c,rJE-1- <
c
Lthe I'ord
-vith itetilienU or :;
-
Each of the :Forel 'appoir:1
is duelo at I'
?PectItS.51 e ;Jo
ift:E?! White .lIolt_zs'e.:"%vhere Ii
" Presieient-clect
porarily.st.t up
'Carl
- buditet d"i't of :Ian
Ilurnsfeid; NEVi
? %S.,:Tretary.
f-AvIttnr- rit11153.; C.13 I TM Us .01,-
1,77s:brie' of the Car..1'
visit
--plannc4-3-4 0-;nlriu
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11 - ; I ?V
-Ford and.Calt:-..r.-nt W,, ?
-
he"r'fii
?!..lour,o1_11,e'exeinitive
_ to cont.
? tlie.0 OP. lie
--,-cates..:-an,effart_-f"to.-! defy.
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PLATYS,. Ga.., 1}- --Gera. Bush,
the Dir--tor.Cer.V.-ral- Intelligence... came
" to Pl.eilrs today to? share his organization's
portfolIo of s,ecrets and spy teolla!que..s.-
- 'trwih Cate----:
Te two.- coafetre4 TocO 3. to 7
t-c;?-i.ca_as,loi,:g as. expected,. and- as
k he: Told
4'E.e show,N3_,.a very.-krk interest -..
gu?..e.S.*
fiors ware- rigSti-
Id anfLiJ.-j : relea s eTcl th
N,vho Wore said by
ame.s to oe,..--?..repes?T.,.-at-ttive.7:_of the type;
.ot intereste,d -citizerls wlitr vnald ba-acl-?
,
vi..sin;,, the Presidezt--zilect- he sela.cted
-rew off;^:lals: for his maul& stration ' ?
? list is Called, "13,..--?1,.:11-, red
cralte''r.-alanced. j IiNtr:
Cartzes pTess' sokesrnan- sztid-ewhen
asked- to 2.-Sse35 7the'rea.7.-ce--uP of the--"list
:-r-Incl'acled or the, --list were the,- Rev.
rm. ? c T.- the
;University of Notre
sect-atary?-t.?:aaselet..-- of the- Ar.ncrir:aza
?-recler-tion of I,abor. and Congrefi.s of
dostrial.- tiorts; Vernon-- J o Edon,
the executi7e.- the -1,irbart
:chairman:of
- the toaz Or thalDir. Pohl:- Company, and
-(Robert -Stren.i?s;.- c.--hairman - of the
'
Th Oiie-rs
were Lucy NV..? Benson; for.;
pr'ider....t" of ? the National Leagueo?T
-Worzerr? .Voters;:-,.: Carol s..Foreman. ? the:
-of Consu,nei- Federa-:-
..?:tions of ".AzIerice.;:-Ntariarf Ed.el-
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