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Y 96~ Approved For Re~~~~~~~AZC~I~$PR~4BOOSENATE 400070005-0 1159 twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on Government Operations. The summary is as Follows: SCIENCE AND TECnNOLOGY-HEARINGS, RE- PORTS ON LEGISLATION, SPECIAL REPORTS AND PUBLICATIONS-COMMITTEE ON GO{f- ERNMENT OPERATIONa Hearings on S. 3126: To create a Depart- ment of Science and Technology; (to create Standing Committees on Science and Tech- nology in -the Congress) ; to establish Na- tional Institutes of Scientiflc Research; to authorize a program of Federal lo*ana .and loan insurance for college or university edu- cation in the physical or biological sciences, mathematics, or engineering; to authorize the estab)ishment of scientific programs outside of the Unitec' Staten and for other purposes-Science and Technology Act of 19b8, part 1, May 2, 8, and 7, 1958. Hearings on S. 3126: Expansion of Fed- eral program for coordination. of scientific informatign and documentation, title I, and on S. 4039, to authorize the expenditure of funds through grants for support of scien- tific research .(title II of S. 3126), Science and Technology Act of 1958, part 2, June 25 and 26, 1958. ~. Rcpt. No. 2044 (on S. 4039) : To author- ize the expenditure of funds through grants for .support of scientific research, July 30, 1968. Public Law 934, September 6, 1958. Committee print: Report on development of scientific, engineering, and other pro- cessional manpower (with emphasis on the role of the Federal Government). (Prepared by the Leg~slative.Reference Service, Library of Congress,. April 1957), February 13, 1958. (Quattlebaum report.) S. Doc. No. 90: Science and Technology Act of 1958, Analysis and summary pre- pared by the staff of the Senate Committee on Government Operations on S. 3126, to ~ create a Department of Science and Tech- nology; (to create Standing Committees on Science and Technology in the Congress); to establish National Institutes of Scientific Research; to authorize a program of Federal loans and loan insurance for college or uni- versity education in the physical or biologi- cal sciences, mathematics, or engineering; tb authorize the establishment of scientific programs outside of the United States; and for other purposes, April 17, 1958. (Com- mittee print of same published February 13, 1968.) Hearings an S. 878: To create a Department of Science and Technology, and to transfer certain agencies and functions to such De- partment; and on S. 588, to establish a U.S. Department of Science and to prescribe the functions .thereof, part 1, April 16-17, 1959. 4n S. 626, S. 586, and S. 1851: for the estab- lishment ai a Commission on a Department oP Science and Technology, part 2, May 28, 1969. Senate Report No. 408 (on S. 1851) : Eatab- 1lshment of a Commission on a Department of Science and Technology, June 18, 1959. Senate Report No. 2498: "Progress Report on Science 1'rogratns of the Federal Govern- ment," September 9, 1958. Senate Report No. 12d: Science programs- 86th Congress, March 23, 1969. Senate Report No. 113, 88th Congress: Documentation, .indexing and Retrieval of Scientiflc Information. A study oi. Federal and non-Fc'eral science. information proc- essing and retrieval programs, June 23, 1960. (Committee print of same, May 24, 1960.) Senate Document No. 15, 87th Congress: Documentation, Indexing and Retrieval of Scientific Information, Addendum to Senate Document No. 113 of the 86th Congress, March 9, 1961. SUBCOlYIMITTEE ON REORGANIZATION Committee print: "Coordination of Infor- mation on Current Scientific Research. and Development Supported by the U.S. Govern- ment." Administrative and scientific prob- lems and, opportunities of central registra,- tion of research projects in science and engineering, April 17, 1961. Committee print: "Coordinatio~i of ]Infor- mation on Current Ft;deral Research and De- velopment Projects in the Field of 81ec- tronics." An analysis of agency systems for storage and retrieval of data on on-going work and of views of private companies on indexing and communication problems, Sep- tember 20, 1961. Hearings on Federal budgeting for research and development. Agency coordination study. Part I. The Department of Defense and the National Aeronautics and Spam Ad- ministration, July 26 and 27, 1961. Hearings on Federal budgeting for research and development. Agency coordination study. Part II. Problems of diverse agen- cies and of a Government-wide nature, July 26 and 27, 1961. Mr. McCLELLAN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the bill may remain on the desk until the con- clusion of Business next Monday, to give opportunity to Senators who may de- sire to do so to add their names as cosponsors of the measure. The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. YOUNG of Ohio lri the chair) . Without objection, it is so ordered. Mr. I3TJMPHREY. Mr. President, I commend the Chairman of the Com- mittee on Government Operations, 'with whom I have been privileged to serve on that committee almost every day and week since I have been in Congress. The subject of a scientific and technolof;ical information service in our Goverxmlent and the recruitment of personnel is one that has long occupied the attention of the Subcommittee on Reorganization, of which I have been chairman for a number of years. The reports of the Committee on Government Operations that are referred too are the result of hearings which have been held by the full committee and the subcommittee. Z'he proposed commission is needed. It was needed 2 years ago, I believe. ]vow with the sponsorship of the distinguished chairman of the committee, I am sure it will be established, I am very pleased to join the chairman of the committee in the cosponsorship of his proposal. I assure him of my wholehearted co- operation to get the bill through any subcommittee to which it may be re- ferred, and also through the full committee. - Mr. McCLELLAN. Mr. President, I thank my distinguished friend from Minnesota. I know of his keen and in- tense interest in this subject matter. I know that he recognizes, as do many of us,-the need for legislation in this field and for a competent and thorough study of ways and means by which we can co- ordinate scientific and technologica: in- formation. I anticipate that during i;his session of Congress, and I hope at an early date, the committee will hold hear- ings on the measure and possibly report it for action before this session of Con- gress adjourns. DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL I INTELLIGENCE of the nomination of John A. McCone,, of California, to be Director of Central :[n- telligence. EXECUTIVE MESSAGES REFERRED The PRESIDING OFFICER laid be- fore the Senate messages from the Presi- dent of the United States submitting sundry nominations, which were referred to the appropriate committees. (For nominations this day received, e the end of Senate proceedings.) EXECUTIVE REPORTS OF COMMITTEES The following favorable reports of nominations were submitted By Mr. FULBRIGHT, from the Committee on Foreign Relations: Adiai E. Stevenson, of Illinois, Francis T. P. Plimpton, of New York, Charles W. Yost, of New York, Philip M. Klutznick, of Illinois, and Jonathan B. Bingham, of New York, to be Representatives of the United States of America to the 16th session of the General .Assembly of the United Nations; John M. Steeves, of the District of Co- lumbia, aForeign Service officer of the class of career minister, to be Ambassador Extraor- dinary and Plenipotentiary to Afghanistan; C. Allan Stewart, of Arizona, a Foreign Service oflcer of class 1, to 'be Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary to Ven- ezuela; Robert McClintock, of California, a Foreign Service officer of class 1, to be Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary to Argen- tina William S. Gaud, of Connecticut, to be Assistant Administrator for the Near East and South Asia, Agency for international Development; Edmond C. Hutchinson, of Maryland, to be Assistant Administrator for Africa and Europe, Agency for International Develop- ment; Seymour J. Janow, of California, to be Assistant Administrator for the Far East, Agency for International Development; and Teodoro Moscoso, of Puerto Rico, to be Assistant Administrator for Latin America, Agency for International Development. By Mr. EASTLAND, from the Committee on the Judiciary: Walter Pettus Gewin, of Alabama, to be U.S. circuit judge, fifth circuit; Clarence W. Allgood, of Alabama, to be U.S. district judge for the northern district of Alabama? Griffin B.~Bell, of Georgia, to be U.S. cir- cuit judge, fifth circuit; Nathan S. Heffernan, of Wisconsin, to be U.S. attorney for the western district of Wisconsin; Clinton N. Ashmore, of Florida, to be V.S. attorney for the northern district. of Florida; John M. Imel, of Oklahoma, to be U.S. attorney for the northern district of Oklahoma; Joseph W. Keene, of Louisiana; to be U.S. marshal for the western district of Louisiana; Richard J. Jarboe, of Indiana, to be U.S. marshal for the southern district ai In- diana; and Raymond F. Farrell, of Rhode Island, to be Commissioner of Immigration and Naturalization. By bZr. McCLELLAN, from the Committee on the Judiciary: Robert D. Smith, Jr., of Arkansas, to be U.S. attorney for the eastern district of Arkansas; and Charles M. Conway, of Arkansas, to be U.S. attorney for the western district of Arkansas. By Mr. HART, from the Committee on the Judiciary: Talbot Smith, of Michigan, to be U.S, dis- trict judge for the eastern district of Michigan. Approved For Release 2003/10/22 :CIA-RDP64B00346R000400070005-0 1160 Approved For Release 2003/10/22 :CIA-RDP64BOQ346R000400070005- CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENAATE fxryauary 3Y senator SMITH. Who recommended you However, the Constitution prescribes for the appointment? certain duties for every Member of the Mr. MCCOxE. T do not know. U.S. Senate. Among those duties is to Senator SMITH. Who besides the President advise and consent to the nominations talked with you about taking the position? of officers of the Federal Government Mr. MccoxE. No one. when such officers are prescribed by law Senator SxvIITx. Was there not some ques- tion in your own mind about yoiu qualifl- to be subject to the advice and consent cations? clause of the Constitution. Mr. McCoxs. Avery serious one. This office is of greater importance, in Senator SMTTH. Did you not raise such a my view, than any Other OfIICe Upon question with the President and others with whose nomination the Senate is required whom you talked? to advise and consent. This is not mere- Mr. McCoxE. I raised 1t in my own con- ly my opinion. This Opinion is widely science, naturally; with my wZfe. Yes, shared. Senator SMxTx. But not with the Presi- aent? Indeed, the distinguished chairman of Mr. McCoxE. No; I did not raise it with the Senate Armed Services Committee, the President. the able and highly experienced senior Mr. JAVITS. Mr. President, I invite Senator from Georgia [Mr. RICHARD attention to the fact that the Senator RussELl.l, opened the hearings which he from Minnesota iMr. MCCARTEiYI who conducted on Mr. McCone's nomination, is in a sense leading the opposition to by stating: the Confirmation of the nomination of In this period through which we are pass- Mr. McCone, is the author of a reSOlu- ing. this office is perhaps second only to the tion to establish a Joint Committee On Presidency in its importance. Foreign Information and Intelligence, The able and distinguished chairman of which I am a cosponsor. of the Armed Services Committee not I advance the view, Mr. President, only opened the hearings with that state- because of the way I intend to vote ment-that "In this period this office is on the nomination, that the manner in perhaps second only to the Presidency in which to deal with any danger that the its importance," but he reiterated .that CIA may be in itself some kind of a opinion later in the hearing---on page By Mr. ByRD of Virginia, mitter, on Finance: James Allan Reed, of Massachusetts, to be an 1!,ssistant Secretary of the 't`reasury; Ben David Dorfman, of the District of Columbia, to be a member of the II.s. Tariff Commission; Eugene V. Atkinson, of Pennsylvania, to be collector of customs for customs collection district No. 12, with headquarters at Pitts- burgh, Pa.; Minnie M. Zoller, of Texas, to be collector of customs for Customs collection dis- trict No. 21, with headquarters at Port Artbur, Tex.; Sam D. W. Low, of Texas, to be collector of customs for customs collection district No.:d2, with headquarters at Galveston, Tex.; Charles H. Kazen, of 'T'exas, to be collector of customs for customs collection district No. 23, with headquarters at Laredo, Tex.; William W. Knight, of Alaska, to be col- lecG~r of customs for customs collection dis- trict: No. 31, with headquarters at Juneau. Alaska; Stamuel S. Wyatt, of Tennessee, trJ be collector of customs for customs collection district No. 43, with headquarters at 14Lem- phis, Tenn.; John A. Vaccaro, of New York, to be surveyor of customs. in customs collection district No. 10, with headquarters at New Yors, N.Y.; Andrew M. Bacon, of Louisiana, tp be comptroller of customs, with headquarters at view Orleans, La.; and of customs xor customs coueu~ivaa umoa+co - No. 26, with headquarters at Nogales, Ariz. Carthy's bill. I think the CIA must be subordinate to the foreign policy of the emirs. SMITH of Maine. Mr: President, United States a>~id that its duty is to I shall vote against confirmation of the obtain and to evaluate intelligence in- apX~ointment of John A. McCone to be formation-period; and that goes for its Director of Central Intelligence. I shall operatives in the field as well as its op- do so because I do not consider him eratives at home. It is not necessary qualified for this very important post- to deny a man collflrmation of his nom- tioll, because: ination on that score, but instead it is First. He had no training or expert- necessary to have an assurance by legis- ence in the field of intelligence prior lative oversight in the,Congress that we to llis appointment--while all of his intend to make our purpose felt who- predecessors had. ever may be the incumbent in the office ~iecond. A very serious question existed as the head of the CIA. in his own mind about his qualifications; The way to accomplish owe purpose yet he did not raise this question with is to see that what we want gets done they President of the United States. in tQrms of the ultimate purpose, and "Chess disturbing facts are recorded Senator McCarthy's bill gives us this on page 53 of the hearing record on opportunity. his nomination, and by his own very Mr. GRUENING. Mr. President, it is a terse and unequivocal answers to the source of regret to me that I feel obliged questions i asked of him on these points. to express a serious doubt as to the wis- INr. President, I ask unanimous con- dom of a Presidential nomination. I re- sent to have printed at this paint in the fer to the nomination of Mr. John A. RECORD, as a part of my remarks, the McCone for the supremely important portion of page 53 of the committee post of Director of Central Intelligence. herring to which I have referred. It is not pleasant for me to question 'There being no objection, the excerpt the judgment of the President of the from the hearing was ordered to be United States. Particularly, it is not printed in the RECORD, as follows: pleasant when one happens to be, as I 19111 you tell the committee what training am, a great admirer of President John or experience you had in the field of intelli- F. Kennedy. It is riot pleasant for one gexire prior to your appointment to that w,ho wishes, as I do, whenever possible, po~aition? to follow where he leads and to support 1vIr. McCoxE. None. his program wherever possible with senator SMITH. In view of your lack of vigor and enthusiasm. For John F. Ken- training and experience in the field of in- tel igence, you are unique, are you not, in nedy is not only our President, the leader _ _ -__.. ._u_~ L..a si..,. 1...,Ae.. of+hnTlam- 7VIr. McCoxE. I do not know tnat Because I do nat know the experience of my prede- cessors. tienator SMrrx. What then makes you feel th:It you are suitably and adequately quali- fied to be the Director of the Central Intelli- ge:nce Agency when you have had no experi- ence or training in the field of intelligence? :NLr. McCoxs. I think, Senator, that that was a question decided by others than I. and without the qualifying clause: In this period through which we are pass- ing- in my opinion-said Senator RussEI.L again- this position in many respects SE> second in importance only to the President. Senator RussEl.r. fs quite xight. No position. in the Federal Government is fraught with so much power for good or ill and involves such great responsibility. This is particularly-the case as it is the only position in the Federal Government which is subject to no supervision or control by any congressional body. In this one case alone our historic and essential system of checks and balances does not operate. Now, it will be said that John A. Mc- Cone has twice been confirmed before to positions to which he was nominated by other Presidents of the United States. That is true. He served as Undersecre- tary of the Air Force, and he served as chairman of the ~ Atomic Energy Com- mission. And I do not question for a moment the ability of his service in those fields, or the wisdom of the appointments made by two previous Presidents of Mr. McCone to those two important offices, and the wisdom of the Senate in con- firming him unanimously 'for each of those positions. The Central Intelligence Agency, how- ever, is entirely different. In the slightly more than a year which has passed since John F. Kennedy took office, his other- wise brilliant record, his dynamic record, natural+that I should support him and his record of high purpose and appro- llis policies whenever I can do sa, when- priate action, has been marred by two ever I can reconcile his position and his failures. They are failures which may policies with my conscience, beliefs and be ascribed to faulty intelligence. There judgments. He has a]ready demon- was first the Cuban fiasco. Mr. Presi- strated, in my view, that he is a great dent, it is impossible to exaggerate the President, and I have had occasion to damage, the continuing and expanding say so on this floor. damage, the tragic and unrelenting con- Approved For Release 2003/10/22 :CIA-RDP64B00346R000400070005-0 Approved For Re~1~~~(/I'18~?AiC~~4BOg~~~~0400070005-0 sequences of that failure. It has already changed the history not only of our. country, .and the history of this hemi- sphere, but the history of the world. The full consequences pf the fatal error com- mitted on the basis of faulty intelligence are going to haunt us and the free world for years to come-perhaps for all time. It may truthfully be said that when the United States subscribed to the- launch- ing of the ill-fated attempt to replace Castro with a regime that would repre- sent freedom and democracy and restore Cuba to a regime of liberty and of human dignity, the action was based on the mis- information that the people of Cuba would rise, help depose their dictator, and welcome the returning Cubans who had been the victims of his savage tyranny, his communistic ideology, and his ruthless destruction of all freedoms. Had the information given to President Kennedy been correct, one of two alter- native courses could have and would have been fpllowed. First, to halt and cancel the invasion~attempt. Or, second, to support the invasion in such a way, with our armed might, that it would have been bound to succeed. I am not pre- pared to say which of these two courses we should have followed, but obviously it would have been one or the other. A second failure of intelligence came in the Berlin crisis. Although we have been living with the Berlin situation for 17 years and all kinds of information had been handed the administration by the CIA, the one course of action which the Russians follpwed, namely, tp seal off East Berlin, was not anticipated. It caught us completely unprepared and flatfooted. Had our Intelligence Agency informed our Government that the barbed wire fence would be erected and then backed by a wall, it would have ,been possible to arrive at a course of ac- tion which would have nullified that Communist victory. But- that informa- tion was not forthcoming. The result was another major defeat based on faulty intelligence. Now, why then is it pertinent; in my view, that the appointment of Mr. Mc- Cone is unwise and inadequate to meet the grave situation which our country confronts throughout the world? In the hearings which were conducted in one day by the Armed Services Com- mittee of the Senate, the Senatorial questioning seemed to fall into two cate- gories. dome of our colleagues,- im- pressed obviously by Mr. McCone's pre- vious record, the excellence of which I do not question, contented themselves with praising him highly. On the other hand, other- members of the committee asked searching questions. Among these was the distinguished senior Senator from Maine, Ml'S. MARGARET CHASE SMITH. The Senator from Maine, after pointing out that the Cuban debacle and fiasco climaxed her very serious reser- vations about the CIA and the way it was being run, coupled .with the fact that the CIA enjoys a virtual immunity from reporting to Congress on its ac- tivities and expenditures, stated that there was very little, if any, check placed upon it; that, in effect, unlike any other agency in the Federal Government, the CIA has been given a congressional blank check for' its operations anti its administration, and that unfortunately, under these circumstances, Congress literally operates in the dark. as to the CIA, without reviewing its effectiveness, its justifications, and whether it should be revised and improved, and that in- deed .Congress operates in the dark and only when it is too late is it possible to learn of the faultiness and dannage done. The. Senator from Maine then asked the following question: Will you tell the committee what train- ing or experience you had in the Seld of intelligence prior to your appointment in that position? Mr: McCone replied with one word. That word was: "None." In other words, here you have the man nominated to head this Agency, which is fraught with tremendous power and re- sponsibility, which is subject to no con- trol or check, who admits, and quite cor- rectly, that- he has no experience what- ever in the field of intelligence. Mr. President, it seems to me that this, in itself, should disqualify Mr. Mc(:one Yor this post. As I said previously, the abilities and qualifications of Mr. Mc- Cone as Undersecretary of the Air Force and as Chairman of t_he Atomic Energy Commission, in which no question o:f his ability arises, have only a remote pertinence to his qualifications for this. far more important responsibility. The Director of Central Intelligence can, in effect, make policy-national policy and international policy. The CIA can, as the CIA has in the past year, disastrously affect the security of the United States, for the head of the CIA not merely heads a vast Agency which collects information, but it also evalc:ates information. Within 1 year we ]have had at least two conspicuous and tl?agic failures in evaluation. Of course, the CIA does more ithan collect information and evaluate it. It plays a part in shaping the destiny of other countries. It plays that part. be- cause the information which it prolriiies to our Government, and the evaluation which it presents, has in the past and may again in the future determine our policy toward the governments of for- eign countries. It may result, as it has resulted in the past, in withdrawing or granting recognition to a regime in that country. It has in the past, and will again, determine actions we take- political actions and economic actions. It may again bring us to the brink of .disaster. How qualified is Mr. McCone, with no experience whatever, to be the head of this vast network and to keep the Presi- dent informed? We have in the RECORD what seenls to me to be a somewhat pertinent revela4tion of some of Mr. McCone's mental proc- esses. Back in October 1956,. in the clos- ing days of the presidential campaiin, a group of 10 scientists on the faculty of the California Institute of Technology issued a statement calling attention to Adlai Stevenson's suggestion, whit] l he had made in the course pf the campaign, that atomic testing should be suspended. It may be recalled that this suggestion of Governor Stevenson's was depiOred by President Eisenhower, who felt it should 1161 not have been introduced as a campaign issue, and by Vice President Nixon, who referred to it as "catastrophic nonsense." The statement of these 10 scientists was a reasonable one. They were exercising their rights as free citizens to express a view pertinent to the campaign. In ad- ditipn to being free citizens, they were knowledgeable ones on the issue involved, since they were all physicists and chem- ists who had firsthand knowledge of the effect of radiation following atomic bomb explosions. Mr. McCone, who was a trustee of Cal Tech and was cam- paigning vigorously far the reelection of President Eisenhower and against Adlai Stevenson, exploded with wrath at this statement and wrote a caustic letter to Dr. Thomas Lauritsen, professor of physics at the California Institute of Technology, and made his indignation known to the president of that institu- tion and to fellow members of the board. Thesle two letters appear on, pages 23, 24, 25, and 26 of the hearings, and they speak for themselves, and I ask unani- mous consent that they be printed at this point in the RECORD. There being no objection, the letters were ordered to be printed in the RECORD, as fO110wS: STATEMENT OF 1O -SCIENTISTS ON ATOMIC TESTING PUBLISHED IN L03 ANGELES TIMES, OCTOBE& 15, 1956 For some time C+ov. Adlai Stevenson has urged that the United States take the lead and renounce further H-bomb teats for as long a time as other nations likewise refrain from testing these devices. This suggestion has been attacked as advocating a dangerous unilateral action which would permit the Russians to get ahead of the United States in nuclear technology. In our opinion these criticLsms have little. validity and give in- adequate attention to the reasoning that lies behind the proposal or to the urgency of dealing immediately and effectively with the peril that confronts the world as a re- sult of the existence of the H-bomb. Today we are caught in a nuclear arma- ments race that threatens to engulf the world. No end of this race is yet in sight. Two nations have already exploded hydrogen devices, a third will do so in a few months. Within a short time it is likely that many countries large and small will possess this capability. With the commitment oY more and more national arsenals to this type of warfare, international control becomes in- creasingly difficult. Even in our own coun- try our Military Establishment is becoming more and more dependent upon nuclear weaponry and the time will soon be upon us when even a limited military action must inevitably drive us into nuclear war. Time is running out, with an implaca- bility that we ignore at our peril. Yet after SO years of negotiation, the world has no other guarantee of survival than the tenu- ous hope that no nation will pull the trig- ger for Year oY committing national suicide. It appears to us that Mr. Stevenaon's pro- posal might be a useful way to get the nego- tiations out oY the deadlock stage by taking a step which would not endanger our secur- - ity, which would in no way hinder other areas of nuclear research, which could not be de- layed indefinitely by. negotiations and which would have a very real significance to most nations throughout the world. At.the very least the proposal is one that should be widely debated and discussed for the obvious reason that the control of nuclear weapons is vital to our survival. Additional advantages of such a step would be: Approved For Release 2003/10/22 :CIA-RDP64B00346R000400070005-0 Approved For~~~~~,2p~~,(~~/?~?~CG~i~-$DP6S~Q~~.~R000400070005 ~anuary 3Y 1. It would decrease our exposure to radio- active fallout and its associated dangers. 2. It might postpone the time when there will be many nations which possess practical H-bomb experience. 3. It would increase our prestige in West- ern :Europe and in Asia. 4. It would provide an important test of 8ovi~zt intentions. We must remember that on July 17 Soviet Foreign Minister Shepilov statexl that the Russians would be willing to ban F.[-bomb tests if others agreed. President Eisenhower has stated that he regrets that the American Government's polirp with respect to the testing o2 large- scale~ nuclear weapons has been made an issuE: in this campaign. On the contrary we Snd i:t regrettable that discussions of our mili-ta,ry strength, of our vulnerability, and of our foreign policy in relation to H-bombs honer thus far represented such a small pro- portion of current political discussions. We must realize that time is running -out-that our actions and inactions during the next 4 years may well determine whether our people, our Nation, our civilization live or die. Our people must not be shielded by their Government from the grim realities that confront us. They must realize how destruc- tive Ii-bomb explosions really can be. They must realize how easily these devices can be made by other nations. They must realize in 2u.11 the dangers of radioactive fallout. The; must appreciate our vulnerability to ordinary air attack with atomic bombs, let alone to the approaching intercontinental missiles. They must realize all of these things if these problems are to be solved in timf!. We believe that the free and open discus- sion of proposals such as that which has beers raised by Mr. Stevenson are essential if aye: are to extricate ourselves from the vicious circle in which we now find ourselves. Signers: Dr. Thomas Lauritsen, professor of physics, California Institute of Tech- nolcgy; Dr. Matthew Sands, associate proles-. sor sac physics, California Institute of Tech- nolagy; Carl D. Anderson, professor of physics, Nobel Laureate in Physics 1934, member of the National Academy of Sci- ences; Harrison Brown, professor of geo- chemistry, member of the National Academy of Sciences, formerly assistant director oP chemistry, plutonium- protect, Oak Ridge, Tenn.; Robert F. McChristy, professor of theoretical physics, formerly physicist, Los Alaxnoa, N. Mex.; Jesse W. M. DuMonde, pro- fese+~r of physics, member o2 the National Acaaiemy of Sciences, during war physicist with OSRD, Air Force, and Navy; Robert V. Langmuir, associate processor of electrical engineering, motor field high energy accel- erators, physicist with OSRD during war; Charles R. McKinney, senior research fellow in geochemistry, CTT, physicist at Oak Ridi;e during war, formerly chief engineer of ].C+O mev betatron at University of Chi- cago; John M. Teem, research fellow in physics; Robert L. Walker, associate proces- sor of physics, formerly physicist, Los Alaan.os. OcrosEa 15, 195fi. Dr. THOMAS LAURTTSEN, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, C?lif. DE4a Da. LpvarrsEN: This morning I read with amazement your statement. It seemed to me the arguments you use con- cerning renouncing the H-bomb testa are without validity. Indeed, your arguments completely support the position of Presi- dent Eisenhower and his administration that experimentation and tests must continue until a system of international control is developed. You mention Foreign Minister Shepilov's statement of July 17, suggesting abandoning of bomb tests; but what you fail to men- tiori is that on almost the day Mr. Shepilov made the statement the Russians were conducting nuclear tests in the interior of Siberia. You, Dr. Lauritsen, and your associates know the leadtime required to conduct a teal:. You know that almost a year must transpire from the time the test is decided upon until it is made. This year is con- sumed in planning, assembling material and construction, and, finally, in the transporta- tion of the device to be tested. Now, 1f we make a unilateral decision of a type you and your associates advocate and then Mr. Shepilov does as he did last July-turns around and sets off a few hydrogen bombs in their own testing ground-where do we stand? The answer is simple. We have lost a year; we are behind in the race; all of the dangers which you emxmerate in your press release have been multiplied; valuable time has been lost; a reckless decision has been taken, and the security of America placed in teopardy because of it. You point out that we are caught in a nuclear armaFnent race, that time is run- ning out and that nothing is being done to arrest the competition in this field be- tween nations. You know that President Eisenhower went to Geneva in an effort to solve the disarmament question. You know that Secretary Dulles has met repeat- edly with the foreign ministers of other countries, including Russia, in attempting to find a reasonable answer to the disarma- ment problem. You know that the United Nations has had its committees on disarma- ment in almost continuous session during recent years. You know that President Eisenhower placed Mr. Stassen in his Cabi- net and assigned him exclusively to the task of finding an answer to the disarmament riddle. You know that Bl nations are now meeting in New York furthering our Presi- dent's atoms-for-peace program. You know of these actions but stlll you state that time is running out and infer nothing is being done. How do you reconcile your position with the facts as I have outlined them? Your statement is obviously designed to create fear in the minds of the uninformed that radioactive fallout from H-bomb tests endangers life. However, as you know, the National Academy of Sciences has issued a report this year completely discounting such danger. Also you know from your close contact with the tests that one of the im- portant obtects of them !s to develop tech- niques for reducing fallout. The tests are to be applauded rather than criticized on this particular ground. Your proposition that postponement oY tests will delay the time when other nations might possess practical H-bomb experience seems to have no foundation. In fact, it is an argument that has for several years been a prominent part of Soviet propaganda, and you apparently have been taken in by this propaganda. No nation, friendly or un- friendly, has so much as hinted that our testa are stimulating their work or, on the con- trary, that a unilateral decision on our part to abandon tests would cause them to de- crease their emphasis on bomb development. As far as our prestige in Western Europe is concerned, I have spent much more time in Europe during the past 2 years than you have and have been in touch with the civilian or military officials of practically all Western Europe governments, and I can tell you#rom personal knowledge that our conduct of tests, H-bomb or other nuclear devices, is not at issue with our prestige in Western Europe. You infer that our Government shields our people from the realities of the dangers which Confront us. This impression is false. Presi- dent Eisenhower has repeatedly warned us of these dangers. Secretary of the Air Force Quarles dealt with the question at length in addressing the World Affairs Council in Los Angeles on last Wednesday. Secretary Wilson dealt with it last night on TV. Secretary Dulles has discussed the danger time and time again. Mr. Peterson of the Office of Civilian Defense has crass-crossed the country for 4 years warning of the very dangers of which you speak. Vice President Nixon has discussed the subtect in Los Angeles and elsewhere in the United States on many occasions. The country has been advised time and time again, that others have developed, the H-bomb and the A-bomb, that they are building up stockpiles, that they have aircraft to deliver them. Our peo- ple have been repeatedly warned of the dangers-not shielded from the fe,cts as you infer. Surely the unilateral abandoning of the very tests which are an essential part of any development of this type does not improve the very situation that seems to worry you. On the contrary, it gives the advantage to our adversary and greatly increases rather than decreases the danger of America and the security of our people. A unilateral decision of the type you rec- ommend might be fatal to our country. It might easily lose for us the precious tech- nical advantage we now hold. Think of the desperate circumstance we would find our- selves in today had we followed the advice of one scientist, Dr. Robert Oppenheimer, a few years ago and abandoned the development of the H-bomb. Democrats and Republicans alike at that time saw the folly of such thinking. I am sure the more thoughtful members of both parties will see the extreme hazards to our national security in the course you recommend and advocate. I stand steadfastly behind a policy of dis- armament when we reach agreement with other nations for a safe and proper proce- dure of inspection so that we Americans will be sure that, as-we take our gixard down through agreement with Russia, we will have no deienso. ThLs President Eisenhower has advocated time and again. It continues to be his policy; and you, unfortunately, have completely distorted his position in your press release. Yours very truly, JOHN A. MCCONE. Mr. GRUENING. Mr. President, it will be noted that in comparing the text of these letters, Mr. McCone charges the scientists with advocating the unilateral abandoning of the H-bomb and A-bomb tests. He says: A unilateral decision of the type you recommend might be fatal to our country. I find nothing in the letter of the scientists which recommends unilateral abandonment. All it does is to recom- mend action along the lines advocated by Adlai Stevenson, which indicated clearly that unless other nations fol- lowed our lead in abandoning atomic bomb testing, we would be free to resume testing. In the course of his letter, Mr. Mc- Cone said: Your statement is obviously designed to create fear in the minds of the uninformed that radiation fallout from H-bomb tests endangers life. However, as you know, the National Academy of Sciences has issued s report this year completely discounting this danger. Mr. President, here is Mr. McCone making a flat statement which scaTCely will stand up; yet he is the man who is going to be the interpreter of the vast amount of information which is col- lected by his staff. Mr. Mcc;one's in- dignation at the statement of these scientists is not fully disiosed by the hearings, but he made no secret of the Approved For Release 2003/10/22 :CIA-RDP64B00346R000400070005-0 196 .Approved For Re~B~iOV~i,Cii~$OR~BO($~~6~gQ~400070005-0 fact of his great perturbation, and dis- cussed it with the President of Cal Tech, Lee Dubridge, and some of his #ellow trustees. J!'he fact is that Mr. McCone's evalua- tion of the letter of the scientists, as shown by his reply to Mr. Lauritsen, in my judgment raises a serious doubt about his objectivity as an evaluator, which will be one oP his major functions, if not his. major function as Director of Central Intelligence. If we . go back to the statement of Adlai Stevenson, made in a speech to the American Society of Newspaper Editors on April 21, 1956, he proposed that we cease atomic testing and urge other na- tions to follow our example. If they did not do so, we reserved the right to change our policy. Well, is not .that precisely what was subsequently done, or was tried, by the United States? Yet, Mr. McCone de- nounced these scientists violently, show- ing a passion which certainly does not reveal the degree 'of objectivity which should be so essential in the evaluation of reports which will come in Prom all over the world, With his views so definitely known, how objective can we :assume will be the reports of his vast staff? I need .not elaborate this point- fur- ther at this time; but to me it indicates that there is a good deal of question how valid Mr. McCone's judgment has been in the past and may be in the fu- ture. Indeed, Mr. McCone's subsequent tes- timony, under cross-questioning, re- veals how mistaken his violent indigna- tion at these scientists proved to be. 1~3' colleague, Senator BARTLETT, a mem- ber of the Committee on Armed Serv- ices, also' asked some searching ques- tions. Referring to Mr. McCone's statement in his letter to the scientists that "the National Academy of Sciences had is- sued a report completely discounting such danger," Senator BARTLETT said: And such danger has to do with the radio- active fallout .from H-bomb tests. Do you know- Senator BARTLETT contiriued- iP the National Academy oP Sciences has changed its views relating to this since then? Mr. McCone replied: I do not know of any official statement. ` They put out a report in the spring of 1958 that dealt with the question of the genetic and other effects from radioactive fallout resulting from reference to testing, and, as I recall the report, it tended to minimize the effects at the level of radiation, at the then existing level of radiation or the level to be expected from the tests that had taken place or r[iight