INTELLIGENCE QUESTIONS RAISED IN MOSCOW

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April 10, 1974
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No Objection to Declassification in Part 2013/01/04 : LOC-HAK-545-18-1-6 MORI/CDF 002379399 TOP SECRET/SENSITIVE/CODEWORT) MEMORANDUM FOR: SECRETARY KISSTNGER FROM: J'AN M. LODA.U',/HELMUT SONNENFELD SUBJECT: Intelligence Questions Raised in Moscow t As you recall, there were a number of questions raised in the Moscow discussions on which .the Soviets appeared to be confused or perhaps were intending to mislead us. Among these were: Whether the new Soviet ICBMs are really new missiles or merely modifications of alder systems, The Soviet claim that none of their ICBMs carry mare than three RVs. -- 'The Soviet claim. that a U5 ICBM was tested carrying 5 RVs and that POSEIDON carxies 12 RVs. -- The Soviet references to their "164" bombers. We have reviewed the Soviet claims with the intelligence community and DOD. The key conclusions of our review are discussed below. 1. Are the new Soviet ICBMs really new missiles ar merely modifications of existing systems? This question arose when Brezhnev indicated that all of the "new" Soviet ICBMs are really just modifications of existing missiles. At one point, he even said "new" ICBMs would violate the Interim Agreement. On this point, we suspect that Bre~hnev confused new ICBMs with new ICBM launchers, {the construction of which would violate the Interim Agreement). Zt is the Soviets existing ICBM launchers that are being modified to accept their new missiles. We also asked CIA to evaluate whether the new ICBMs could conceivably be xnodi.ficatians of existing missiles. TOP SECRET/SENSITIVE/CODEWOR.D Caxnpletely Outside System April 10, 1874 No Objection to Declassification in Part 2013/01/04 : LOC-HAK-545-18-1-6 OSD Review Completed No Objection to Declassification in Part 2013/01/04 : LOC-HAK-545-18-1-6 No Objection to Declassification in Part 2013/01/04 : LOC-HAK-545-18-1-6 ? No Objection to Declassification in Part 2013/01/04 : LOC-HAK-545-18-1-6 ..~. ~~,.~_.~. _, .r_...._ - - - You may wish to consider raising this point in your talks with Gromyko on the of? chance that the Soviet military has deliberately misled the leadership. 2. Do the Soviet ICBMs carr~r more than 3 RVs? ? ? than 3 R.Vs (though at one point he indicated the possibility o? up to 5). Brezhnev asserted on several occasions that his ICBMs have no more T'OP SECRET/SENSITIVE/CODEWORD No Objection to Declassification in Part 2013/01/04 : LOC-HAK-545-18-1-6 No Objection to Declassification in Part 2013/01/04 : LOC-HAK-545-18-1-6 '~~VY e71'.C~J:CL' ~.L/-7L~+1V~1SlYi.r/~.+VL.C~YY V.f:SL ~t is at least possible that Brezhnev was genuinely confused on the subject. Perhaps he was referring to existing MRV systems such as the SS-11 MOD 3 now being. extensively deployed, or possibly he had been poorly briefed. (You will recall last year at Zavidavo, Brezhnev claimed eight warheads far his new heavy xriissile which has not been proven out. ) Beyond simple confusion, yr a deliberate Soviet attempt to mislead us, (which could not possibly succeed), we can find no plausible explana~ tion fvr the Soviet statements. 3. Soviet Claims About U5 MIR.Vs At one point Bxezhnev claimed the U5 had tested an ICBM with five MIRVs; at another paint he claimed Poseidon carried twelve RVs. ~ On the two ICBM que s tians , the~~ias never launched an ICBM with five RVs. In the weeks prior to your Moscow visit the US launched three ICBMs, including; -- A Minuteman IX carrying the Emergency Rocket Communica- tions System and na reentry vehicle. The missile failed and was destroyed in flight. -- A Thor rocket placing a weather satellite in orbit. -~- An Atlas rocket which launched a s%n~le maneuvering reentry vehicle. Nvne of these vehicles could plausibly have looked like five RVs to the Soviets. This apparently is standard Soviet practice in rn.oni.taring our missile tests. As we surmise it, the Soviet approach to monitoring our ICBMs relies heavily on U'5 open source literature for much of their intelligence data; they apparently monitox our tests with trawlers to confirm that things are pretty much as expected. In fact, if we secretly prepared and tested an ICBM with five RVs the Soviets would probably never know it. TOP SECRET/5EN5x'TIVE/CODEWORD No Objection to Declassification in Part 2013/01/04 : LOC-HAK-545-18-1-6 No Objection to Declassification in Part 2013/01/04 : LOC-HAK-545-18-1-6 .L Vt -7J :r V.L~J:e 1/ -:7L' 1V1.71 J, .1. Y ~:-r /vviJJL:,~__rr vd?~u ? ]'n suxn, we can ?ind no plausible explanation ?or the Soviet claim. On the Poseidon question, we can identify some indications of how the Soviets might have concluded that Poseidon carries twelve R.Vs. Far example, early literature on Poseidon included reference to a con?igura- tian of twelve RVs plus a penetration aids package. On the other hand, Poseidon has never actually been tested with twelve RVs. Poseidon can actually carry up to fourteen R.Vs and it is routinely tested in the made -- the most recent fourteen RV test was in January -- and is also tested with payloads of ten and six R.Vs. These are the three basic payload config~u:?a.tions that we have actually deployed. As actually deployed, Poseidon has an average of ten RVs permissile; same Foseidans are deployed with Fourteen. From a SALT standpoint, we have usually counted Poseidon as carrying ten RVs. On the other hand, the Soviets would be justified i.n trying to credit it with its maximum tested payload, i. e. fourteen RVs. (This tends to make the passibility of a deal based on RVs less attractive froxxa. the US standpaint since our 500 Poseidons could theoretically carry 7, 000 RVs. ) 4. Soviet References to Their "160" Bomber - Brezhnev offered on several occasions to trade their contemplated "160" bomber for our P -1. ? TOP SECRET/SENSITIVE /CODEWORD No Objection to Declassification in Part 2013/01/04 : LOC-HAK-545-18-1-6