CABLE TO HENRY A. KISSINGER FROM BRENT SCOWCROFT

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: Library of Congress
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): LOC-HAK-470-1-5-3
• Release Decision: RIPLIM
• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 9
• Document Creation Date: January 11, 2017
• Document Release Date: July 15, 2010
• Sequence Number: 5
• Publication Date: October 21, 1975
• Content Type: CABLE

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TOP SECRET/SENSITIVE October 22, 1975
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. The Secretary has reacted to a number of your messages.
3. On C-130's for Egypt (Tohak 36), he asks that you test
the waters with Defense as you suggest in paragraph four.
4. On Tohak 37, the Vice President should attend the Franco
funeral. He has no problem with Ellsworth for the Air Force
job.
5. On Israeli arms issues, (Tohak 39), he wants to be sure
that when you get some of the items released, we get credit for
. it, ?ou:ehculd therefore call Dinitz when you have-them
released so that he knows who did it.
6. Warm regards.
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Scowcroft reports on his meeting with
Dinitz on arms
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1. I MET WITH DINITZ ON THE ARMS ISSUES.
2. I HAVE SEVERAL PAGES OF NOTES ON THE VARIOUS ITEMS,
BUT I WILL COVER WITH YOU ONLY THE MORE SIGNIFICANT ITEMS.
3. F-15 -- HE COMPLAINED ABOUT DEFENSE'S PROPOSED
DELIVERY SCHEDULE AND SHOWED ME A PAPER FROM DEFENSE PRO-
VIDING "TENTATIVELY AND FOR GENERALIZED PLANNING PURPOSES
ONLY" A DELIVERY SCHEDULE BEGINNING IN JULY, 1976. HE SAYS HE
WOULD SETTLE NOW FOR JANUARY, 1977. WICKHAM HAS ALREADY
INDICATED TO ME THAT IT MAY BE POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE A FEW
R&D AIRCRAFT IF THE ISRAELIS WILL ACCEPT "USED" EQUIPMENT
THERE ARE ONLY 6 R&D BIRDS, HOWEVER. I INTEND TO RAISE THIS
ISSUE WITH WICKHAM TOMORROW.
4. ON LASER-GUIDED BOMBS, HE SAID THEY HAD BEEN PROMISED
FIVE DESIGNATORS AND 125 BOMBS BEFORE THE REASSESSMENT.
I WILL SEE ABOUT GETTING AT LEAST THAT MUCH RELEASED.
5. RECOVERY AND BRIDGING TANKS-w-RECEIPT OF THESE ITEMS
FROM PRODUCTION WILL NOT BEGIN'UNTIL 1979. THE ISRAELIS ARE
REQUESTING 25 OF EACH TYPE FROM STOCKS. DINITZ SAYS THE
GERMANS ARE WILLING TO PROVIDE THEM IF WE WILL APPROVE.
SCHLESINGER DID NOT REPEAT NOT RAISE THIS ISSUE WITH THE GERMANS
ON HIS RECENT TRIP. WICKHAM SAYS YOU TOLD HIM NOT TO. IF WE
ARE TO PROVIDE THEM FROM STOCKS, THE GERMANS ARE THE ONLY
FEASIBLE SOURCE.
6. IMPROVED HAWK-- DINITZ CLAIMS THAT NEGOTIATIONS WERE
CONCLUDED BEFORE THE REASSESSMENT TO EXCHANGE FOUR BATTERIES,
WHICH THE ISRAELIS NOW HAVE , FOR IMPROVED HAWK BATTERIES.
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8. ACCORDINT TO DINITZ THERE ARE ALSO ABOUT 35 ITEMS ON
WHICH THEY HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED A RELEASE FROM MUNITIONS
CONTROL. I WILL CHECK WITH STATE ON THOSE ITEMS.
9. I HAVE SEPARATELY LEARNED-FROM WICKHAM THAT DEFENSE
HAS BEGUN TO MOVE ON'SOME ITEMS. FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE RELEASED
200 MAVERICK MISSILES, GOO SHRIKE MISSILES, 2 OV-1 RECCE
AIRCRAFT, AND OVER TWO MILLION ROUND OF VARIOUS TYPES OF
AMMUNITION.
10. I WILL KEEP YOU POSTED ON DEVELOPMENTS.
WARM REGARDS.
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is no easy way to get them, but we might
ask Saudi Arabia for three planes due
for delivery next month.
Ask Saudi Arabia
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OCTOBER 21, 1975
TO: HENRY A. KISSINGER.
FROM: BRENT SCOWCROFT
1. G-130'S FOR EGYPT -- THE MEMO BY HAL SAUNDERS ON THIS SUBJECT
DOES NOT OVERESTIMATE. THE PROBLEMS INVOLVED.. IN FACT, THERE
IS NO GOOD WAY TO PROVIDE THE AIRCRAFT.
2.. FOR STARTERS, THE LIBYAN SOLUTION APPEARS TO ME TO BE A
NON-STARTER. FOR THE NEXT OPTION, I SEE NO ONE IN THE PRODUCTION
SCHEDULE WHOM WE COULD BUMP EXCEPT PERHAPS THE THREE AIRCRAFT
DUE FOR DELIVERY TO SAUDI ARABIA NEXT MONTH. IT IS CONCEIVABLE
THAT THE SAUDIS WOULD GO ALONG, IN LIGHT OF THE SIGNIFICANCE
OF WHATQE ARE DOING FOR EGYPT. THE ONLY OTHER OPTION IS TO TAKE
THEM FROM THE AIR FORCE, EITHER FROM INVENTORY OR FROM PRODUCTION.
I HAVE NOT RAISED THIS WITH DEFENSE, BUT I HAVE LITTLE DOUBT
THAT THEYWOULD COMPLAIN. THE KEY QUESTION IS WHETHER THEY
WOULD BE SUFFICIENTLY UPSET TO COMPLAIN TO PRO-ISRAELI
CONGRESSMEN, IN AN ATTEMPT TO STYMIE THE DEAL.
3. IN THIS LATTER REGARD THERE IS ONE ELEMENT WHICH DOES NOT
APPEAR IN THE SAUNDERS MEMO. THAT ELEMENT IS THE REQUIREMENT
FOR CONGJSSIONAL INVOLVEMENT. WE WOULD GET IT TWO WAYS IN THIS
DEAL. FIRST, THE SALE WOULD REQUIRE A PRESIDENTIAL
DETERMINATION. SECOND, SINCE IT INVOLVES MORE THAN $25
MILLION, WE WOULD HAVE TO NOTIFY THE CONGRESS, A LA HAWK
MISSILES FOR JORDAN, AND CONCEIVABLY WITH SIMILAR CONSEQUENCES.
4. I WOULD THINK THAT IT MAY BE WORTHWHILE TO MAKE A LOW
KEY APPROACH TO THE SAUDIS TO SEE WHETHER THEY WOULD BE WILLING
TO GIVE UP THEIR THREE AIRCRAFT TO EGYPT. IF WE COULD GET
THREE FROM THE SAUDIS,.WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SQUEEZE THREE MORE
FROM DEFENSE WITHOUT RAISING AN UNMANAGEABLE FUROR. nom., l
~. ICOULD TEST THE WATER WITH DEFENSE TO GET AT LEAST tJ ~+
A GENERAL IDEA HOW SERIOUS THE OPPOSITION WOULD BE.
5. IN SUM, THERE SIMPLY IS NO EASY WAY TO DO IT. WITH RESPECT
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TO PROVIDING THEM NON-LETHAL EQUIPMENT, IT CAN BE DONE IF WE
HAVE ANY IDEA AT ALL WHAT IT IS THEY MIGHT WANT. TWILL CHECK
WITH SISCO AND SAUNDERS IN THIS REGARD BUT tnUt D noon ~~
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ANY SUGGESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE PICKED OUR qlUsl
SAM.'
WARM REGARDS.
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