CABLE TO HENRY KISSINGER FROM GRAHAM MARTIN
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Collection:
Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST):
LOC-HAK-165-5-12-0
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RIPLIM
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S
Document Page Count:
3
Document Creation Date:
January 11, 2017
Document Release Date:
December 20, 2012
Sequence Number:
12
Case Number:
Publication Date:
April 4, 1971
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CABLE
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No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/12/20 :1_06:HAK-165-5-12-0
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S E R E T 04 1245 Z APR 71
TO: THE WHITE HOUSE FOR 'DR. HENRY KISS iNULti
? FROM ANEMBASSY ROME AMBASSADOR utifcrim .ROME
1. I HAVE SENT TEXT ?? OF ARCHESI SPEECH ? AT AETA IN
'EMBASSY ROME 2 113 AND FOR MORE NORMAL. DISTRIBUTION,
? A GENERAL BACKGRO UNDER IN EMBASSY ROME 2114 BOTH
? REPEATED ? TO WHITE HOUSE. ? ? . ? ?
2. DINNER WITH RO SELL LORENZ- IN I FRIDAY EVENING . WAS
RELAXED, ? INFORMAL AND AFFORDED 'OPPORTUNITY. FOR LONG ?
PRIVATE TALK, WE SHARED EXPERIENCES IN ASIA IN WHICH?
? HE HAD GREAT INTEREST, HAVING SERVED AS YOUNG NAVAL
OFF ICER IN PE IPINC3.. WE SPENT ? SOME TIME REVIEW ING -
CURRENT ITALIAN POL ITICAL SCENE ABOUT WHICH HE IS NOT
'REALLY AT ALL WELL INFORMED AO, REFRESHINGLY, WAS ?
QiiITE ki ILL ING TO ADM IT IT. 11E HAS SPENT NO ST OF HIS CAREER ?
ABROAD OR ? AT SEA Ana WHEN HE WAS A PPO INTED NAVY
CHIEF HE SA ID HE FO UNI) T HE IN LR 'CAGES OF THE MANEUVER ING
OF TEE POL IT 1CAL CLASS IN :ROME MYST IVY ING AND FR USCRAT INCA.
T HE CO t?i VER STA ION CAME ROUND TO TEE INEVITABLE QUESTION
OF "WHAT DOES AMER ICA - REALLY WANT IN ITALY?" I MADE MY
USUAL ANSWER A STABLE, NON COMM M ITALY WHICH ? ?
WOULD CONTINUE ITS F IRM ATTACHMENT TO THE ? ATLANT IC ALLIANCE, AKA
WHICH WOULD HE4AI4 DEDICATED TO THE SPECIAL IT AL0-.. AMER ICAN
RELATIONSHIP WHICH HAS MEANT SO MUCH TO BOTH COUNTRIES.?
IT WAS TRUE, OF court sE? THAT .'1; HE rAcr THAT .ONE TENTH. ?
? OF OUR PEOPLE WERE ? OF RECENT IT AL IAN DECENT ? MADEOUR ?
EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT vErty GREAT. .DESPITE THt, IN
PURELY COLD- BLOODED, ? PR A CT ICAL TERMS AND, IF HE LIKED, .
IN SELF ISH TERMS, A NEUTRAL OR CO MM UN 1ST ITALY WOULD. .
CRIPPLE THE ALLIANCE, PERHAPS FATALLY. IT WOULD ALSO.
MAKE .EXTRAORD INAR MY DIFFICULT ? THE MA INTENANCE OF AN. ?
AMERICAN POSITION OF' STRENGTH IN THE tiED ITERRANEAN.? .
THEIZEFORE.2 THE ? AMER IQ ? STAKE IN? ITALY WAS VERY .
HIGH AN 11F- E NT IOt OF
PROTTLaING IT. I SA ID I REALLY FAILED TO -UNDERSTAND HOW
? THERE COULD BE THE SLIGHTEST DOUBT OF THIS GIVEN THilE
.EY.TRAORD NARY EMPHASIS THE PRESIDENT HAD PLACED ON
ITALIAN RELATIONSHIPS,
ON-FILE NSC
RELEASE '
INSTRUCTIONS
APPLY
MORI/CDF per
C05146876.
No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/12/20 : LOC-HAk:165-5-12-0
No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/12/20 : LOC-HAK-165-5-12-0
SA ID I THOUGHT IT rJA.S HIGH TINE THAT ITALIANS
BEGAN ASKING THENSI.','LVES TE ouE 1-1E HAD JUST ADDRESSED
TO ME, AND I WAS GLAD TO NOTE THAT SOME WERE', I SAID
THAT IN ANOTHER DECADE ? ",T,TALr S ECONOMIC POWER COULD
V SECOND ONLY TO THAT OF GERMANY IN EUROPE AND ITS
GENIUS SHOULD ENTITLE IT. TO A LEADING EUROPEAN ROLE,
BOTH POLITICALLY AND MILITARILY. I HOPED, THEREFORE,
THAT IN T HE AR NED FOR AS 'JELL AS ON THE POLITICAL
SIDE. THERE COULD BE LESS FACTIONAL COMPETITION AND MORE
EMPHASIS ON ? WHAT WAS GOOD FOR ITALY AND FOR THE ALLIANCE.
WE THEN?????'GOT IN A LONG DISCUSSION OF HIS ? PLANS TO MODERNIZE AND
. AND STRENGTHEN THE FLEET. HE IS PROUD OF THE PLANS HE
HAS DEVELOPED AND WILL ? WISH. TO DISCUSS THEM WITH ADMIRAL
MOORER ?AND. ADMIRAL ZUMWALT. ? HE . IS CUTTING. SHORT HIS TRIP TO
RETURN TO. BE AVAILABLE TO -PRESS. HIS FIGHT FOR LARGER
?? APPROPRIATIONS. ?
5.. HE REVERTED TO ? THE ? ROLE ? OF THE MILITARY ON THE
? ITALIAN POLITICAL ? SCENE. ?? ? HE ASKED WHETHER I ,.,HAD READ ..
GENERAL.. MARCHEST S SPEECH. ? I SAID I HAD AND THOUGHT IT.
VERY GOOD. ? :IN RESPONSE ? TO HIS QUESTION I SAID I AGREED
? ILAT 1H AMID UrroPAL"-RE-SPOITSITMITY
FOR T CIE PRESERVATION 9F, DENO .013ATIC.....BLUICIELUZ-717--sma
flTK THERE WAS Fin t7-tflA ()LIE WAY 10
IT_US iILIF THAT ANY D Iffil2f_Qt EDT ERVEargalEtiaiii.a
? BE A Liisi RESORTS ? I SAID IT VAS MY. IMPRESSION THAT A N Y
? DIRECT INTERVENTION ? COULD NOT SUCCEED UNLESS II THE
?? GENERAL PUBLIC COULD SEE ? THAT SUCH INTERVENTION 'JAS
CLEARLY NECESSARY; AND (2) UNLESS ALL ELENENTS OF THE
.? ARMED FORCES WERE COMPLETELY ?TOGETHER. : AND ? () ? UNLESS SUCH
INTERVENTION WERE -DONE IN A WAY THAT PRESERVE!) AT LEAST
THE? APPEARANCE OF CONSTITUTIONAL LEG :f.T 'MACY. I SAID . I
WAS GLAD- TO NOTE. HIS AGREEMENT AND THAT I HO ITO THAT THE ?
PRESSURE GENERAL, 11ARCIIE SI WAS AM.. ? INCi TO THE POLITICAL
CLASS, I WAS SURE W ITH HIS FULL . =Tons, WOULD INCREASINGLY-
-SHOW MORE POSITIVE ? RESULTS. ?? ? . . . ?
,6. HE SURPR ISE[) ME 13? ASKING WHY I WAS THE ONLY NON.
POL IT ICAL AMBASSADOR.. IN WESTERN EUI-MPE?E. ? I SAID I
REALLY DON! T ? KNOW. I LIKED TO THINK IT WAS -ADDITIONAL
EVIDENCE OF THE PRESIDENT" S CONCERN FOR ITALY, SINCE
THE PRESIDENT WAS WELL AWARE THAT I HAD NO ILLUSIONS
WHATEVER ABOUT OUR SOVIET FRIENDS, AND PERHAPS A CERTAIN
RUTHLESSNESS AND TOUGHNESS IN CARRYING OUT HIS INSTRUCTIONS...
ID THAT HE WAS GLAD TO SEE THAT I SO THOROUGHLY ? .
UNDERSTOOD THE MILITARY AND WOULD 'EVEN FORGIVE MY ? ARMY AND
AIRFORCE BACKGROUND SINCE. MY. WIFE WAS SO OBVIOUSLY- ALL-
NAVY,. WE CONCLUDED BY HAVING A ? TWO- MAN RUMP SESSION
OF THEE TOM MOORER FAN CLUB. -HE IS EXTREMELY FOND
OF ADMIRAL MOORER AND HOLDS HIM IN. THE HIGHEST RESPECT...
SAID HE WAS IMPRESSED WITH ADMIRAL ZUMWALT BUT HAS
NCT YET HAD .TT OFP02.TUJIT.Y To 1.q;0,,,.1Hi I JELL, ? ROSELLI-.
SEEELS GENIUNZLY PEG-AnRICAN;.. HE HAS A SON ?
WcR:1N3 FOR US AS A N ENGINEER WITH THE JET PROPULSION
LI-Ei ORATORY OF 'dna RE IS OBVIOUSLY VERY PROUD,'
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No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/12/20 : LOC-HAK-165-5-12-0
No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/12/20: LOC-HAK-165-5-12-0
- VE AGREED TO GET .TOGETHER AGAIN SHORTLY AFTER HIS.
... RETURN. AND KEEP ? IN CLOSE CONTACT. ALTHOUGH THERE WAS
NO DIRECT REFERENCE .TO THE SUBSTANCE REPORTED IN MY
FREVIOUS MESSAGES, HE KNEW THAT I.? WAS FULLY INFO?RNED AND
ALSO .KNEW THAT I KNEW HE DID. I ENCOURAGED HIM TO TALK WITH
TOTAL FRANKNESS ? WITH ADMIRAL MOORER AND ADMIRAL ZUMWALT ".
?ALTHOUGH ONE CAN NEVER BE TOTALLY CERTAIN, IT IS.. NY
FIRM IMPRESSION THAT ?-GENERAL MARCHE:SI HAS .MOVED WITH
SUBTLETY AND FIRMESS TO GET ?THE SITUATION IN HAND. ?
THLREFORE,. I ? RECOMMEND YOU SUGGEST TO MOORER AND ZUMWALT?
THAT THEY FOLLOW THE SAME LINE I. TOOK .WITH ROSELLI- ?
LORENZ' AND LET ME KNOW HOW THE CONVERSATIONS WENT,
S. I AM GRATEFUL FOR YOUR ASSURANCE THAT x WILL BE
KEPT INFORMED OF THE BITS AND PIECES THAT MAY COLE
YOUR WAY.. IT ? WILL HELP KEEP ME AHEAD. .OF THE ?
CURVE AS THINGS DEVELOP HERE.
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No Objection to Declassification in -Part 201/12-/257.?Lob-ThAk:1-6-5-:511-276'77'