CABLE TO HENRY KISSINGER FROM GRAHAM MARTIN

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LOC-HAK-165-5-12-0
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RIPLIM
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S
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3
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January 11, 2017
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December 20, 2012
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12
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Publication Date: 
April 4, 1971
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CABLE
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?1 4 - . No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/12/20 :1_06:HAK-165-5-12-0 MICA i 0429 094 144S , 25X1 - CI 041443ZZYH FM ROME . . ? ? A . TO THE HITE HOUSE ?.ZEM ? . ? ? . ? ? S E R E T 04 1245 Z APR 71 TO: THE WHITE HOUSE FOR 'DR. HENRY KISS iNULti ? FROM ANEMBASSY ROME AMBASSADOR utifcrim .ROME 1. I HAVE SENT TEXT ?? OF ARCHESI SPEECH ? AT AETA IN 'EMBASSY ROME 2 113 AND FOR MORE NORMAL. DISTRIBUTION, ? A GENERAL BACKGRO UNDER IN EMBASSY ROME 2114 BOTH ? REPEATED ? TO WHITE HOUSE. ? ? . ? ? 2. DINNER WITH RO SELL LORENZ- IN I FRIDAY EVENING . WAS RELAXED, ? INFORMAL AND AFFORDED 'OPPORTUNITY. FOR LONG ? PRIVATE TALK, WE SHARED EXPERIENCES IN ASIA IN WHICH? ? HE HAD GREAT INTEREST, HAVING SERVED AS YOUNG NAVAL OFF ICER IN PE IPINC3.. WE SPENT ? SOME TIME REVIEW ING - CURRENT ITALIAN POL ITICAL SCENE ABOUT WHICH HE IS NOT 'REALLY AT ALL WELL INFORMED AO, REFRESHINGLY, WAS ? QiiITE ki ILL ING TO ADM IT IT. 11E HAS SPENT NO ST OF HIS CAREER ? ABROAD OR ? AT SEA Ana WHEN HE WAS A PPO INTED NAVY CHIEF HE SA ID HE FO UNI) T HE IN LR 'CAGES OF THE MANEUVER ING OF TEE POL IT 1CAL CLASS IN :ROME MYST IVY ING AND FR USCRAT INCA. T HE CO t?i VER STA ION CAME ROUND TO TEE INEVITABLE QUESTION OF "WHAT DOES AMER ICA - REALLY WANT IN ITALY?" I MADE MY USUAL ANSWER A STABLE, NON COMM M ITALY WHICH ? ? WOULD CONTINUE ITS F IRM ATTACHMENT TO THE ? ATLANT IC ALLIANCE, AKA WHICH WOULD HE4AI4 DEDICATED TO THE SPECIAL IT AL0-.. AMER ICAN RELATIONSHIP WHICH HAS MEANT SO MUCH TO BOTH COUNTRIES.? IT WAS TRUE, OF court sE? THAT .'1; HE rAcr THAT .ONE TENTH. ? ? OF OUR PEOPLE WERE ? OF RECENT IT AL IAN DECENT ? MADEOUR ? EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT vErty GREAT. .DESPITE THt, IN PURELY COLD- BLOODED, ? PR A CT ICAL TERMS AND, IF HE LIKED, . IN SELF ISH TERMS, A NEUTRAL OR CO MM UN 1ST ITALY WOULD. . CRIPPLE THE ALLIANCE, PERHAPS FATALLY. IT WOULD ALSO. MAKE .EXTRAORD INAR MY DIFFICULT ? THE MA INTENANCE OF AN. ? AMERICAN POSITION OF' STRENGTH IN THE tiED ITERRANEAN.? . THEIZEFORE.2 THE ? AMER IQ ? STAKE IN? ITALY WAS VERY . HIGH AN 11F- E NT IOt OF PROTTLaING IT. I SA ID I REALLY FAILED TO -UNDERSTAND HOW ? THERE COULD BE THE SLIGHTEST DOUBT OF THIS GIVEN THilE .EY.TRAORD NARY EMPHASIS THE PRESIDENT HAD PLACED ON ITALIAN RELATIONSHIPS, ON-FILE NSC RELEASE ' INSTRUCTIONS APPLY MORI/CDF per C05146876. No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/12/20 : LOC-HAk:165-5-12-0 No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/12/20 : LOC-HAK-165-5-12-0 SA ID I THOUGHT IT rJA.S HIGH TINE THAT ITALIANS BEGAN ASKING THENSI.','LVES TE ouE 1-1E HAD JUST ADDRESSED TO ME, AND I WAS GLAD TO NOTE THAT SOME WERE', I SAID THAT IN ANOTHER DECADE ? ",T,TALr S ECONOMIC POWER COULD V SECOND ONLY TO THAT OF GERMANY IN EUROPE AND ITS GENIUS SHOULD ENTITLE IT. TO A LEADING EUROPEAN ROLE, BOTH POLITICALLY AND MILITARILY. I HOPED, THEREFORE, THAT IN T HE AR NED FOR AS 'JELL AS ON THE POLITICAL SIDE. THERE COULD BE LESS FACTIONAL COMPETITION AND MORE EMPHASIS ON ? WHAT WAS GOOD FOR ITALY AND FOR THE ALLIANCE. WE THEN?????'GOT IN A LONG DISCUSSION OF HIS ? PLANS TO MODERNIZE AND . AND STRENGTHEN THE FLEET. HE IS PROUD OF THE PLANS HE HAS DEVELOPED AND WILL ? WISH. TO DISCUSS THEM WITH ADMIRAL MOORER ?AND. ADMIRAL ZUMWALT. ? HE . IS CUTTING. SHORT HIS TRIP TO RETURN TO. BE AVAILABLE TO -PRESS. HIS FIGHT FOR LARGER ?? APPROPRIATIONS. ? 5.. HE REVERTED TO ? THE ? ROLE ? OF THE MILITARY ON THE ? ITALIAN POLITICAL ? SCENE. ?? ? HE ASKED WHETHER I ,.,HAD READ .. GENERAL.. MARCHEST S SPEECH. ? I SAID I HAD AND THOUGHT IT. VERY GOOD. ? :IN RESPONSE ? TO HIS QUESTION I SAID I AGREED ? ILAT 1H AMID UrroPAL"-RE-SPOITSITMITY FOR T CIE PRESERVATION 9F, DENO .013ATIC.....BLUICIELUZ-717--sma flTK THERE WAS Fin t7-tflA ()LIE WAY 10 IT_US iILIF THAT ANY D Iffil2f_Qt EDT ERVEargalEtiaiii.a ? BE A Liisi RESORTS ? I SAID IT VAS MY. IMPRESSION THAT A N Y ? DIRECT INTERVENTION ? COULD NOT SUCCEED UNLESS II THE ?? GENERAL PUBLIC COULD SEE ? THAT SUCH INTERVENTION 'JAS CLEARLY NECESSARY; AND (2) UNLESS ALL ELENENTS OF THE .? ARMED FORCES WERE COMPLETELY ?TOGETHER. : AND ? () ? UNLESS SUCH INTERVENTION WERE -DONE IN A WAY THAT PRESERVE!) AT LEAST THE? APPEARANCE OF CONSTITUTIONAL LEG :f.T 'MACY. I SAID . I WAS GLAD- TO NOTE. HIS AGREEMENT AND THAT I HO ITO THAT THE ? PRESSURE GENERAL, 11ARCIIE SI WAS AM.. ? INCi TO THE POLITICAL CLASS, I WAS SURE W ITH HIS FULL . =Tons, WOULD INCREASINGLY- -SHOW MORE POSITIVE ? RESULTS. ?? ? . . . ? ,6. HE SURPR ISE[) ME 13? ASKING WHY I WAS THE ONLY NON. POL IT ICAL AMBASSADOR.. IN WESTERN EUI-MPE?E. ? I SAID I REALLY DON! T ? KNOW. I LIKED TO THINK IT WAS -ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE OF THE PRESIDENT" S CONCERN FOR ITALY, SINCE THE PRESIDENT WAS WELL AWARE THAT I HAD NO ILLUSIONS WHATEVER ABOUT OUR SOVIET FRIENDS, AND PERHAPS A CERTAIN RUTHLESSNESS AND TOUGHNESS IN CARRYING OUT HIS INSTRUCTIONS... ID THAT HE WAS GLAD TO SEE THAT I SO THOROUGHLY ? . UNDERSTOOD THE MILITARY AND WOULD 'EVEN FORGIVE MY ? ARMY AND AIRFORCE BACKGROUND SINCE. MY. WIFE WAS SO OBVIOUSLY- ALL- NAVY,. WE CONCLUDED BY HAVING A ? TWO- MAN RUMP SESSION OF THEE TOM MOORER FAN CLUB. -HE IS EXTREMELY FOND OF ADMIRAL MOORER AND HOLDS HIM IN. THE HIGHEST RESPECT... SAID HE WAS IMPRESSED WITH ADMIRAL ZUMWALT BUT HAS NCT YET HAD .TT OFP02.TUJIT.Y To 1.q;0,,,.1Hi I JELL, ? ROSELLI-. SEEELS GENIUNZLY PEG-AnRICAN;.. HE HAS A SON ? WcR:1N3 FOR US AS A N ENGINEER WITH THE JET PROPULSION LI-Ei ORATORY OF 'dna RE IS OBVIOUSLY VERY PROUD,' 'Y.11. 1'01=4E0" -,..t.vs?rawarlesgarebrgra,^or .1041.24,1.11,1MWM.S10.11.-,0411-,1116011 _ No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/12/20 : LOC-HAK-165-5-12-0 No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/12/20: LOC-HAK-165-5-12-0 - VE AGREED TO GET .TOGETHER AGAIN SHORTLY AFTER HIS. ... RETURN. AND KEEP ? IN CLOSE CONTACT. ALTHOUGH THERE WAS NO DIRECT REFERENCE .TO THE SUBSTANCE REPORTED IN MY FREVIOUS MESSAGES, HE KNEW THAT I.? WAS FULLY INFO?RNED AND ALSO .KNEW THAT I KNEW HE DID. I ENCOURAGED HIM TO TALK WITH TOTAL FRANKNESS ? WITH ADMIRAL MOORER AND ADMIRAL ZUMWALT ". ?ALTHOUGH ONE CAN NEVER BE TOTALLY CERTAIN, IT IS.. NY FIRM IMPRESSION THAT ?-GENERAL MARCHE:SI HAS .MOVED WITH SUBTLETY AND FIRMESS TO GET ?THE SITUATION IN HAND. ? THLREFORE,. I ? RECOMMEND YOU SUGGEST TO MOORER AND ZUMWALT? THAT THEY FOLLOW THE SAME LINE I. TOOK .WITH ROSELLI- ? LORENZ' AND LET ME KNOW HOW THE CONVERSATIONS WENT, S. I AM GRATEFUL FOR YOUR ASSURANCE THAT x WILL BE KEPT INFORMED OF THE BITS AND PIECES THAT MAY COLE YOUR WAY.. IT ? WILL HELP KEEP ME AHEAD. .OF THE ? CURVE AS THINGS DEVELOP HERE. ? CP- ? S'/C.J0 ? - 0429 NNNN No Objection to Declassification in -Part 201/12-/257.?Lob-ThAk:1-6-5-:511-276'77'