REPLY TO MESSAGES FROM AMBASSADOR MOYNIHAN

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• Publication Date: May 11, 1973
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MEMORANDUM FOR: DR. KISSINGER
FROM: HAROLD H. SAUNDERS
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Reply to Messages from Ambassador
Moynihan
At Tab A is a draft reply to a message (Tab B) from
Ambassador Moynihan to you reporting a conversation he had last week
with L. K. The.. At Tab D is a related message from Moynihan on a
meeting with the new Indian Ambassador, T. N. Kaul. The draft at
Tab A also replies to an earlier message from Moynihan
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Jha and Kaul made a number of points which Moynihan wants to pass
on to you:
NSC, DOS reviews
completed.
--Mrs. Gandhi pretty definitely intends now to seek better
relations with the US.
-.Because of the food shortages in India the government
probably will have to seek credit terms abroad for foocigrain
purchases. The Indians do not want PL-480 credit; New Delhi
apparently fears serious political repercussions in India if it
asks for a resumption of PL-480 sales. New Delhi is interested
In knowing what other possibilities there might be for long-term
credits. Tha said they are wondering whether there is any way
they might get long-term credits of $200-300 million for the
purchase of 2 to 3 million tons of grain. Moynihan believes that
the renewed Indian interest in good relations with the US is at
least in part because they now realize they cannot do without
US economic aid and trade.
--Ma said you suggested to him that a joint Indo-US economic
commission might be useful. He agrees. (This may be a
reference to your March 27 meeting with Jha and Finance Minister
Chavan in which you mentioned the idea of a special mechanism
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for carrying on a US-Indian dialogue on trade issues. Chavan
said at that time that it would be best to continue dealing with
this issue on an informal basis. "What Thm apparently has in
mind is a committee with a broader purpose, including a mandate
to "work out the details of ending all American net aid to India
by 1980. " Such a commission, as envisaged by The, would be
based in New Delhi,)
--Kaul will be bringing a ersonal messae from Mrs. Gandhi
to the President. Tha said you told him (Jha) that if Kaul came
with such a message you would seek a meeting for Kaul with the
President..
Moynihan is particularly interested in having your views on possibilities
for foodgrain credits. In his back-channel message he also expressed
his hope that negotiations on the disposition of excess rupees could get
started soon. Additionally, he reported that notwithstanding the
professed Indian desire for better relations, New Dslhi has not been
making much of an effort to debunk a new campaign in the Communist
press against "American spies. "
With regard to the food problem, non PL-480 aid money in the amounts
Jha is talking about would be very difficult to come up with. There are
a few possibilities. The Indians could request CCC credits, although
these are only 3-year credits. They could also request that some of the
recently dc-suspended $87 million US aid, or some of the FY 74 development
assistance ($75 million is in the budget provisionally), be used for foodgrains.
They could also ask other countries to share in supplying and financing
the wheat they need. They might ask the IMF for a drawing, as they did
during the 1966-68 Bihar famine. The USG response to any request would
depend in part on the supply picture; oecause of current tightness of supply
there is a suspension right now on all USG-financed wheat exports.
State is doing a study on IndoeUS trade relations and on how we might
follow up the conversations on this subject that Chavan had here. On
excess rupees., interagency differences on what our negotiating position
should be are nearly resolved, and instructions for Moynihan to start
negotiations should be ready in another week or two. With regard to
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Ambassador Kaul's interest in meeting with the President, Kaul is
due in Washington around May 16 and we can wait until after that before
deciding about seeking a meeting.
At Tab C is a message I sent to you before you went to Moscow on
Soviet military aid to Bangladesh. A reply to that is also included in
the draft message at Tab A.
AI.ECQM1v1,ENDATION: That you approve the message at Tab A for
transmission to Ambassador M,?ynihan through
Approve
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AMBASSADOR MOYNIHAN/EYES ONLY
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HENRY A. KISSINGER
I. Thank you for your message 536 of May 7. Vie have been working
on the matters you raised. I also appreciated having your message on
the US-Soviet-Bangladesh relationship prior to my Moscow visit.
Z. Our options on food are limited. Non-PL.480 aid money in the
amounts Jha is talking about would be very difficult to come up with.
The Indians could request CCC credits, although they are only for three
years. They could request that some of the de.suspended $87 million
US aid or some of the FY 74 development money if that is released be
used for foodgrains. They could also ask other countries to share in supplying
and financing the wheat they need. They might ask the IMF for a drawing,
as they did daring the Bihar famine. The USG's response to any request
would depend in part on the supply picture; because of current tightness of
supply there is a suspension at the moment on all USG-financed wheat
exports. I am just thinking out loud here. Perhaps the answer lies in a
combination of these approaches. In any case before you talk again with
the Indians you could give me your ideas on the above.
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3. I am glad to hear that the President's foreign policy report has gone
down favorably in Delhi. When Kaul arrives, we shall do what we can
for him.
4. Your instructions on the rupee negotiations are nearly ready, I
understand. I appreciate your desire to get on with that subject. As for
the economic commission, I have asked Hal Saunders to do some work
on that subject and we shall be back to you on that.
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To THE WHITE HOUSE, FOR DR, KISSINGER
1. THEY APPEAR To HAvE,FINISHED A FORTNIGHT OF AMERICAN STUDIES
HERE IN DELHI AND TO HAVE DECIDED TO RESPOND POSITIVELY To nUR
INITIATIVES OF FEBRUARY & MARCH-. A NUMBER OF CONSIDERATIONS
EVIDENTLY INFLUENCED THEM, NOT LEAST THE THOUGHT THAT WE MIsHT
MEAN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SAYING. BUT MOST OF ALL THE FACT THAT
THEY NEED FOOD AND THEY NEED AID AND THEY CAN NO LONGER_CONcEAL
THIS FROM THEMSELVES OR THE ELECTORATE. SUCH Ar ALL EVENTS IS MY
UNSENTIMENTAL IMPRESSION.
2. ALL THIS' IN RATHER VAGUE DETAIL, CAME FROM T N KAUL WHO ON
THURSDAY CAME ROUND POSITIVELY CHIRPING-TO PAY A FAREWELL CALL.
HE WAS CONVINCED THERE IS A GENUINE DESIRE ON'. THE PART OF ROTH
COUNTRIES TO IMPROVE RELATIONS. HE HAD NOT THOUGHT THIS TWO
MONTHS AGO. ETC. ON FRIDAY I HAD A LONG LUNCH WITH L.K. JHA,
WHO IS TEMPORARILY WORKING IN THE PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE, HE
FOLLOWED KAUL'S PRESENTATION PRECISELY: BUT IN MUCH GREATER
DETAIL. I REPORTED TO THEHEPARTMENT ON KAULIS VISITS BUT As I HAD
THE IMPRESSION L.K. INTENDED HIS MESSAGES PRIMARILY FOR YOU,
I Am SENDING THIS ACCOUNT TO YOU ONLY.
3. TO BEGIN HE STATED THAT SOON NOW I WOULD BE CONIAC1'ED ,
By ALL MANNER OF INDIAN_OFFICIALOOMs AS RELATIONS WERE NOW DEFI?
TELy GOING To IMPROVE. FOR A MOMENT THE RUSH?SISCO VISIT HAD
SEEMED TO THEM A SETBACK ON THE KEY QUESTIONS OF ARMS TO
PAKISTAN AND PL 480 RUPEES, BUT THIS WOULD NOT NOW HAPPEN.
THE PRIME MINISTER WAS GREATLY PLEASED BY THE PRESIDENT'S
FOREIGN POLICY REPORT. SHE WAS PLEASED BY ME. SHE FACES GPEAT
POLITICAL DIFFICULTIES JUST AT THE MOMENT, AND CANNOT EXTENQ
HERSELF. TOO FARM BUT NONETHELESS RELATIONS WILL FUNDAMENTALLY
IMPROVE. ETC.
4. YOU HAD TOLD JHA THAT IF KAUL CAME WITH A PERSONAL
MESSAGE FROM THE PRIME MINISTER YOU WOULD (TRY TO?) ARRANGE AN
"AUDIENCE" WITH THE PRESIDENT. KAUL HAS SUCH A MESSAGE.
5: YOU HAD SUGGESTED TO JHA THAT A JOINT ECONIMIC
COMMISSION MIGHT BE USEFUL.. THEY VERY MUCH AGREE. IT WOUin
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HAVE TO COME AFTER THE PL 480 NEGOTIATIONS ARE OUT OF THE WAY,
THESE CAN SURELY BE (?) GOT THROUGH QUICKLY ENOUGH. ONE PURPOSE
OF SUCH A COMMISSION WOULD BE TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS OF
ENDING ALL AMERICAN NET ANY BY 1980 (NOTE, THIS IMPLIES CONTINUING
AID UNTIL THEN) JHA SUGGESTED THAT PL 480 PAYMENTS MIGHT ENn THE
SAME YEAR, WHILE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THrS WOULD NOT BE MY VIEW.
HE HOPES THAT THE FOCAL POINT OF ECONOMIC DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN US
MIGHT BE NEW DELHI, WITH POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS, BY INFERENCE,
CONCENTRATED IN WASHINGTON. I ASSUME THIS IS WHAT HE THINKS
YOU WOULD PREFER.
6. LASTS BUT FIRSTS THEY WONDER WHETHER THERE IS ANYWAY
THEY CAN GET LONG TERM CREDITS FOR THE PURCHASE OF TWO TO THREE
MILLION TONS OF GRAIN. THIS IS TO SAY A LOAN OF TWO TO THREE
HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS. IT MUST BE COMPLETELY OUTSIDE THE
PL 480 FRAMEWORK. (WHICH THEY APPARANTLY ASSUME WOULD BE A
POLITICAL DISASTER -- ADMISSION OF DEFEAT, DEPENDENCY ON
AMERICANS, ETC. -- AT HOME.) I COULD NOT GIVE JHA ANY -ANSW4 ON
THIS, AS I DON'T KNOW OF ANOTHER CHANNEL IF IT IS TO BE A
CONCESSIONAL AS WELL AS A LONG TERM LOAN. ON THE OTHER HMO,
I SAID' I ASSUMED A LOAN AT NEAR MARKET PRICES WAS TECHNICALLY
FEASIBLE, ALTHOUGH SUCH A DECISION ACTUALLY TO EXTEND SUCH
CREDIT WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE IN WASHINGTON. WE HA,D ANOTHER
DRINK.
7. IN SUM, ABOUT WHAT YOU EXPECTED TO HAPPEN IS HAPPENING,
WITH PERHAPS SOME HELP FROM MY AT TIMES INTERMINABLE RECITAL
OF THE ECONOMIC FACTS.
8. BY WAY OF CONFIRMATION AND CAUTION, THE COMMUNIST PRESS
HAS SUDDENLY STARTED UP A CAMPAIGN AGAINST AMERICAN SPIES, THE
PRINCIPAL ONE OF WHOM IS A THIRTY-ONE YEAR POLITICAL OFFICER
IN CALCUTTA WHO HAS BEEN NINE MONTHS IN INDIA AND IS CHARGED
WITH HAVING STARTED AT-LEAST AS MANY RIOTS. I ASSUME THE
LEFTISTS IN AND OUT OF GOVERNMENT ARE TRYING TO THWART THE
DECISION TO MAKE UP WITH THE AMERICANS. AND YET-ALWAYS COMPLEXITY.
THE GOVERNMENT IS NOIVREPATING THESE CHARGES TO ME. JHA REPORTS
THE PRIME MINISTER AS SAVING ?EVEN IF HE ISN'T, WHAT AM I To 0001
I SAID SHE COULD GROW UP, HE ASKED COULD WE NOT GIVE HER THREE
MONTHS BREATHING SPACE BY CURTAILING OUR MOVEMENT AND
SPECIFICALLY AVOIDING CONTACTS WITH PERSONS FROM OTHER PARTIES.
I SAID THAT IN PRINCIPLE THE ANSWER WAS NO, BUT THAT I MIGHT
IN PRACTICE GIVE THIS PROPOSITION A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THOUGHT.
THIS WEEKEND, HOWEVER, THE HOME MINISTER SECRETARY, WHO
REJOICES IN THE NAME OF DIKSHIT MADE A SNIDE SPEECH ABOUT THE
PRESIDENT AND BROUGHT UP RIOTS CAUSED BY A "NOTABLE FOREIGNER'',
TO WIT MY THIRTY-ONE YEAR OLD, AND SO I HAVE DECIDED NOT TO
GIVE THEM A THING. IF WE HOLED UP IN OUR HOUSES AND DID NO
MORE THAN BUY GROCERIES WE WOULD END UP BEING ACCUSED OF
CORRUPTING TRADESMEN IF THEY SO DESIRED. THERE IS AN ELEMENT
OF BULGARIA CIRCA 1950 ABOUT THIS PLACE, BUT ALSO AND ALWAYS THE
,CONSIDERATE AND SOPHISTICATED COUNSEL AND INTELLIGENT INTERCOURSE
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OF MEN SUCH AS JHA.
9. LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. THEY WILL FIRST OF ALL
WANT TO LEARN ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A WHEAT LOAN. THEY
WANT TO START BUYING WITHIN WEEKS, AS I GATHER. ALSO' DO TRY
TO BREAK LOOSE THOSE PL 480 INSTRUCTIONS. OUR INITIATIVE HAS
MEANT A GREAT DEAL HERE, BUT IF WE DO NOT GET STARTED SOON TT
CAN GO SOUR EQUALLY FAST.
10. I ASSUME YOU GAVE MY LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT.
I CEASE TO BE DEVASTATED BY THE NEWS. GOTTEROAMMERUNG AS ynU
MIGHT SAY. BUT IT IS IN THAT SENSE BEYOND REPAIR AND THUS
BEYOND REGRET. LET US GET ON WITH THE BUSINESS OF GOVERNMENT.
11. HOPE YOU ENJOYED YOUR BIRCH FORESTS AND COMMISSARS.
THINK OCCASIONALLY OF YOUR FRIEND ON THE GANGETIC PLAIN
DEALING WITH DEMOCRATS.
BEST MOYNIHAN
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By %way of unsolicited advievi, may I suggest that en route to
tdoscow you might want to congider the relations_hip between US and
them 1n Bangladesh, To the b st of my rczdtng of th
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we seem to be falling WO flat rather too famillar pattern of the United
Stats supplying food writhe 4.io -tat* 4u/slaying arms. Is there any
possible use iniescploring? 0, ttn,East.Wsstouper..aid consortium
that would press them into some hind of parity? Beet, Moynihan'
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AMBASSADOR DE-sIGATE T_N KAUL CAME BY TO PAY A FAREWELL CALL',
AT THE RISK OF OVERREACTING I wono JUDGE THAT A FARTLY ;3.17cIFTp
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1, KAUL IS DEPARTING FOR THE UNITED STATES SATURDAY MAY 5,
wE HAD AGREED THAT I wovuo GIVE HIM DINNER BEFORE HE LEFT.
BUT HE ASKED NOW IF THIS COULD BF DONE ON HIS RETURN SoMETIME,
_PLEADING HE HAD BEEN OFF AND ON ILL FOR WEEKS NOW, I BELIEVE
rNHIS IS THE CASE, BUT THAT IN ANY EVENT WITH SOMETHING VERY
"fAR STARVATION BEGINNING TO STALK THE\cOUNTRYSIDE HE rm NOT
WANT A GALA BLACK TIE DINNER AT ROOSEVELT HOUSE, (ITEM, HE
SPOKE THIS AFTERNOON AT THE INOO AMERICAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
IN THE GRAND BALL ROOM OF THE ASHOKA HOTEL, HAVING FIRST INSISTED
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THAT ONLY TEA AND CASHEW NUTS RE SERVED AFTERwAROS),
190 HE BEGAN Ry STATING THAT HE WAS coNVINcED THERE WAS A GENUINE
loESIRE ON THE PART OF ROTH OUR COUNTRIES TO IMPROVE RELATIONS,
HE HAD NOT THOUGHT THIS TWO MONTHS AO (WHEN HIS APpoINTmEmNT
WAS ANNouNcEn BUT HM COMPLETELY CHANGED HIS VIEW, IN THE MANNER
OF A DEPARTMENTAL MINUTE HE CITE!, THREE PROPOSITIONS IN DEFENSE
OF THIS CONTENTION,-I HAVE FORGOTTEN THE FIRST TwO-SOmETHING
To On wiTH PREVIOUS DISAGREEMENTS HAVING BEEN RELATED TO THIRD
ICouNTRTES BUT POINT THREE WAS THAT THERE IS NO TRUE CONFLICT
nF INTERFsT BETWEEN OUR TWO NATIONS, EVEN THOUGH THERE MIGHT
BE DIFFERENCES, OF VIEW POINT', THIS ALSO WAS THE THINKING or THE
pRTmE MINISTER,
ONPG"HE::7:1:10 'NITE:DINif:::") :::S:EA:::: POSSIBLE RETURN
To THE WHITE HOUSE WERE NOT TRUE, AS I HAD MADE "C VERY STRONG
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,ON P'?1.:. 48m RUPEES AT MY FIRST MEETING WITH THE PRIME MINISTER
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HAD REEN TAKEN As A. MATTER OF GREAT GENERAL IMPORT AND SPECIFIC
SuRSTANGE,,HE HOPED WE couLD. NOM GETA QUICK AND CONCLUSIVE
SETTLEmENT, :II
. sTATTNG WITH SOME EMPHASIS THAT my HAVING ',GOT THE BALL ROLLING!'
4, I MADE my sTANDARD_POTNT THAT THE AIO_ERA WAS OVER AND THAT
THE REST HOPE FOR THE INDIAN ECONOMY WAS To DEVISE WAYS TO INVOLVE?
AMERICAN AND OTHER WESTERN AND JAPANESE ANo BUSINESSES IN
JoTNI-vENTuREs OR WHATEVER IN INDIA, HE AGREED, WITH THE USUAL
TKPAASIS ON BRINGING /N HIGH ?TEcHNOLDGY, I ALLOWED THAT THIS
144 NEVERTHELEsS, AroRmULA roR ?AVOInING'THOUGHT.. WHAT INDIA
I SAID IS BUSINESSMEN DOING wHATEvER THE HELL IS NECESSARY
TO GET THE PER CAPITA GROWTH RATE ABOVE THE ONE POmINT THREE
PERCENT OF THE PAST DECADE, I MENTIONED mACRAES LONG ARTICLE IN
THE CURRENT ECONOMIST ABOUT BRITAIN HAVING EXPORTED TO THE
COMmnNwEALIH. ITS TWO PROTOTYPICAL PRODUCTS, ?THE SANDHURST MAJOR
GENERAL AND THE LONDON SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS FIRST SECRETARY,
444.0 ARE. EVERYWHERE COMPETING TO SEF WHO CAN DO THE MOST DAMAGE
ID TMEIR NEWFOUND NATIONS, I SUGGESTED THAT THE INDIANSUB,..-
'CONTINFNT SOMETImES SEEMED. TO TAKE EVEN MACRAEVVS EXAGGERATION
- ID THE POINT OF CARICATURE, CURIOUSLY HE DID NOT DISAGREE
BUT CHOSE RATHER TO JOIN IN REMINISCENCES OF L.S.E.
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5, AT HIS REQUEST I RAMBLED THROUGH A LIST OF PEOPLE HE
WOULD WANT TO SEE IN WASHINGTON ANn IN UNIVERSITIES, I SAID
THAT /N THE UNIVERSITIES HE WOULD FIND THAT THE SCHOLARS MOST
DEVOTED TO INDIA WERE NOW QUITE BITTER AT THE TREATMENT THEY
HAVE BEEN RECEIVING FROWTHE INDIAN GOVERNMENT, HE REPLIED
THAT HE HAD OBTAINED AS A CONDITION OF HIS ACCEPTING HIS
AMBASSADORSHIP THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO GRANT ANY VISA HE DESIRES
FOR TRAVEL FROM THE UNITED STATES TO INDIA. WE TALKED ABOUT
THIS A MONTH AGO, WHEN
HE SAIO HE WAS GOING TO GET SUCH AUTHORITY', _
HE NOW STATED THAT HE HAD IT, LISTING THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAD
To AGREE', I STATED THAT THIS WAS FINE AS WE WOULD NOW KNOW
WITH WHOM WE WERE DEALING IN SUCH MATTERS,
6, I SUGGESTED HE GET IN TOUCH WITH EARL BliZ AS-A MAN DEEPLY
CONCERNED WITH WORLD F. 00 PROBLEMS, AND ESPECIALLY THOSE OF INDIA,
tig,TEEM-A!XED-WHfT,Ig,R I IMPUGHT-CREOTTIUMT-PE_AVAILABLE-
QTE WITHOUT MENTIONING PL. ..4/01.1R_A.t,qTHING OF. THAT soRT_UNOT
FOR_Tfl_PUPOHASE O! GRAIN I SAID I JUST DIDN'T KNOW, BUT THAT
T ASSUMED THAT snmE SUCH MECHANISMS ARE AVAILABLE IN WASHINGTON,
IF THEY WERE I ADDED THE QUESTION wooLn THEN ARISE AS TO ,
WI-IF:THEP CREDITS couLn BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR ANY SPECIFIC USE.
1 SAID ME wouLnAE ABLE TO FIND OUT QUICKLY ENouGH',
70 THIS TS THE 4LEST TTMF SINCE I HAVE ARRIVED THAT ax
INDIAN OFFICIAL 1-46 hulitawF_TALLitify MIGHT NEED
,SOME KIND OF NELP,t,
IN A LONG PREPARED SPEECH TO THE /NDO AMERICAN CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE THIS AFTERNOON KAUL WENT OVER MANY OF THESE THEMES,
PARTICULARLY THAT OF INCREASING TRADE, HF REPEATED BORROWED
STATISTICS AND PROPOSITIONS FROM MY ONE AND ONLY SPEECH TO DAT,
GIVEN TO THE SAME ORGANIZATION (TN BOMBAY) ON 7HE SAME SUBJECT,
HIS SPEECH WAS CLEARLY WRITTEN IN THE MINISTRY, T WILL SEND A
COPY. HE ENDED BY RECALLING THE STATEMENT OF THE PRIME MINISTER
SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT THE QUESTION WAS NOT WHETHER THE DEVELOPED
COUNTRIES COULD AFFORD TO AID THF DEVELOPING COUNTRIES, BUT
WHETHER THE'', COULD AFFORn NOT TO1, PROSPERITY, LIKE PEACE, IS
INDIVISIBLE, HE JUDGED, OR SHE JUDGED? AMAIN I.HAVE FORGOTTEN.
No MATTER, THE MEANING WAS UNMISTAKABLE.
HE THEREUPON DEPARTED FROM HIS TEXT TO CITE PRESIDENT'S FOREIGN
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POLICY STATEMENT wHICH I HAD GIVEN HIM THIS MORNING, SAYING
HII REFERENCE TO THE ',NEW POLITICAL REALTTY11 OF THE SUBCONTINENT
WAS MOST WELCOME, OUR RELATIONS WERE CLEARLY ON THF UPSWING,
0, MR, MAUL IS GOING TO RASHINGTON TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING
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