CABLE TO THE WHITE HOUSE FROM PARIS

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LOC-HAK-139-6-11-9
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RIPLIM
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S
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3
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January 11, 2017
Document Release Date: 
September 25, 2012
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11
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Publication Date: 
September 7, 1973
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CABLE
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OP :IMMED DP 0 071908 FM PARIS No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/09/25: LOC-HAK-139-6-11-9 a Dept. review completed] ? IP ******* #0254 2501912 SEP 73 ZYH To WHITE HOUSE SECRET *******S COpY ? MORI/CDF C05141402 SECRETEYES ONLY 071908Z SEP 73 ON-FILE NSC RELEASE INSTRUCTIONS APPLY 25X1 25X1 To: _DR HENRY A. KISSINGER, THE WHITE HOUSE. :FROM: AMBASSADOR IRWIN, PARIS 254 j: MET WITH JOBERT THIS MORNING, SEPTEMBER 7. AS USUAL I FOUND CHARMING BUT SOMEWHAT ELUSIVE. JOBERT CONFIRMED THAT HE PERSONALLY WOULD GO TO THE FOREIGN MINISTERS' MEETING IN COPENHAGEN NEXT WEEK, ABOUT :WHICH THERE HAD BEEN SOME DOUBT. PER GENERAL SCOWCROFT'S .TELEPHONE CALL TO ME I SAID YOU WERE DISAPPOINTED AT JOBERT'S LACK 'OF RESPONSE TO DISCUSSIONS YOU HAD HAD AND TO THE DRAFT MAOF AVAILABLE TO HIM. HE SAID HE WAS NOT IN A POSITION TO DISCUSS -THE SPECIFICS OF THE FRENCH POSITION UNTIL AFTER THE NINE HAD REACHED A COMMOWPOSITION IN COPENHAGEN. HE THEN MADE ONE OF HIS ,CRYpTIC COMMENTS, IN THIS CASE ABOUT PRELIMINARY INOPPORTUNP CONTACTS BEING MADE WITH THE NINE BEFORE THEIR COMMON POSITION WAS EsTABLISHED. HE SAID HE HAD BEEN CONCERNED TO HEAR THAT YOU HAD TOLD THE BRITISH, WHO NATURALLY PASSED IT ON TO THEIR EUROPEAN PARTNERS, THAT YOU OBJECTED TO THE NINE MEETING TO ARRIVE AT SUCH COMMON POSITION. IF US WERE IN FAVOR OF THE NINE, AS WE 'OFTEN CLAIMED, WE SHOULD NO -OBJECT TO MEETINGS OF THE NINE TO ARRIVE AT COMMON POSITIONS. NOR COULD WE EXPECT' THE NINE in tSTABIASH THERE POSITIONS WITH TEN (E.E. THE US). IN ANY CASE HE SAID THE NINE EXISTED, AND THERE WOULD ?-BE MANY SUCH MEETINGS. HE WANTED TO SUGGEST IN THE SPIRIT- OF c'AINOLV.COUNSEL-THAT WE NOT PUT OURSELVES IN THE POSITION OF SEEMING WoBJECT TO THESE MEETINGS. HE REPEATED THIS THOUGHT SEVEPAL TIMES TN THE CONVERSATION. EVEN IF OUR OBJECTIONS WERE ONLY FOR TACTICAL N:Rpos.s, AS HE SAID HE SUSPECTED, HE THOUGHT THE TACTICS WERE 41Ap.. SUCH OBJECTIONS COULD ,ONLY RESULT IN THE EC DEFIND/NG ITSELF l'itRE AND MORE BY OPPOSTION TO THE UNITED STATES.' HE IMPLIED DID NOT WANT" THIS ANY MORE THAN WE PRESUMABLY WOULD. I DO NOT. KNOW WHAT EXACTLY WAS SAID TO THE BRITISH OR WHETHER 40SERT IS INTERPRETING IT CORRECTLY. IF HE WAS REFERRING TO 'WHAT SIR BURKE TREND WAS TOLD, AS REPORTED IN STATE 158268, 409ERT HAS EITHER MISUNDERSTOOD OUR POSITION OR IS CHOOSING 4 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *wHSR COMMENT * * * * * * * * * * * * * * MAK,SCOWCROFT,RODMAN,HOWE,mCFARLANE RECALLED PSNi022572 PAGE 01 TOR:250/21i14Z DTG:07i9(Z87 SEP 73 ******* SECRET *******S COPY No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/09/25: LOC-HAK-139-6-11-9 No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/09/25: LOC-HAK-139-6-11-9 *****T S E C R ?E T AIPL**S?COPv . , TO mISINTERPRET IT.. IN EITHER CASE WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO PASS HIM. ANY MESSAGE FROM YOU TO CORRECT THE RECORD BEFORE HE LEAVES FOR COPENHAGEN? .1 SAID THERE COULD BE NU GROUND FOR DOUBTING OUR SUPPORT FOR THE EC 'NOR DID WE OBJECT TO THE NINE MEETING. WHAT WE HOPED To AVOID' HOWEVER, ? WAS BEING FACED WITH A l!FAIT ACCOMPLI' , A ?JOINT POSITION OF THE NINE ON THE DECLARATION ON WHICH WE WOULD NnT BE.. ?ABLE TO EXCHANGE IDEAS UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE BECAUSE THE EC POSITION WOULD HAVE HARDENED AND No ONE ON THEIR SIDE WOULD BE AUTH0RIZED ? To CARRY ON A BROAD AND?GENERAL DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE CHANGES. JOBERT DENIED WE COULD BE PRESENTED. WITH A LFAIT ACCOMPLI, IMPLY-, ? ING THAT AFTER THE NINE REACHED ./4 COMMON POSITION IT COULD ?CERTAINLY. BE DISCUSSED WITH .US, THE QUESTION HOW SUCH DISCUSSION WOULD BE CAR- RIED OUT HE SAID WAS PREMATURE: IT WOULD BE ADDRESSED IN CnpENHAGEN.? JOBERT SAID HE PORES/4w CLEARLY HOW THIS PROCESS WOULD SINCE. WE WANTED' A PAPER (I.E. A WRITTEN DECLARATION OF PRINCIPLES),? THERE. WOULD BE A PAPER TO WHICH EVERYONE, WE AND .THE EUROPEANS/ COULD AGREE. ? HE RECOGNIZED THAT WE WOULD PREFER A PAPER WITH. ? SOME SUBSTANCE IN IT BUT IMPLIED THAT HE THOUGHT WE WOULD SETTLE FOR THE PAPER FOR ITS OWN. SAKE', THE NINE DID NoT PARTICUALARLy LIKE THE DRAFT DECLARATION WE HAD CIRCULATED' JOBERT SAID,- WHICH HE REFERRED.' TD AS ?THE?llSoNNENFELD PAPER.". HE SAID THE FRENCH WOULD PREER ? TWO PAPERS,. ONE FOR THE NINE AND ANOTHER FOR THE FIFTEEN COUNTRIES OF THE ATLANTIC ALLIANCE. THIS WOULD HELP To GET AWAY FROM THE ? ?upACKAGE ASPECT 'OF A SINGLE PAPER WHICH THE FRENCH Do NOT LIKE.' IF THERE WERE ONLY.0NE PAPER, IT WOULD .HAVE TO BE ? ? WITH THE FIFTEEN, JOBERT SAID/ OR POSSIBLY THE FIFTEEN PLUS' ONE. THIS WOULD PROVE THAT' THE NINE COULD NOT AGREE ON A PAPER, WHICH WOULD BE A PITY/ THOUGH NOT A EARTH-SHAKING .CATASTROPHE. ? HE SPOKE OF AN UNCERTAINTY AS TO OUR VIEWS AS TO WHETHER THE?DECLARAT1 N SHOULD BE WITH THE NINE, THE FIFTEEN, THE FIFTEEN PLUS. ONE OR SOME OTHER COMBINATION. JOBERT HOPES ENOUGH PRoGRESS.WILL BE MADE IN COPENHAGEN So. THAT YOU AND HE CAN HAVE A USEFUL MEETING WHEN HE COMES TO NEW 'YORK FOR THE UNGA THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 24. 1 SAID I THOUGHT YOU WERE PLANNING TO BE IN NEW YORK FOR AT LEAST A FRIEF TimE?ANDTHAT? 1?WAS SURE. YOU WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH HIM EITHER THERE OR fN ?? WASHINGTON. ?? ? IN SPITE OF JOBERTIS VIEW THAT THE LAUcHING OF THE YEAR ? OP EUROPE IDEA TOOK PLACE WITHOUT SUFFICIENT PRIOR CONSULTATION OR ? WARNING TO OUR EUROPEAN ALLIES/ HE? SAYS HE IS. NOT TRYING ToFIGHT- ? THE PAST THAT HE WELCOMES BILATERIAL TALKS WITH YOU. AT ANY TIME, AND THAT HE. WILL DO WHAT HE CAN TO HELP REACH ACCEPTABLE SOLUTInNS FOR THE DECLARATION OF PRINCIPLES AND THE PRESIDENT1S-TRIP. HE RECOGNIZES THAT CONTINUING BILATERAL CONTACTS BETWEEN THE US AND ITS EUROPEAN ALLIES ARE THE ESSENCE OF DIPLOMATIC LIFE HIS. EFFORTS TO PROTECT?THAT ? GROy4ING PERSONALITY OF THE NINE ARE NOT INTENDED TO. PRECLUDE SUCH BILATERAL 'CONTACTS. Am 'SENDING A SNAITIzED VERSION OF THIS MESSAGE THROUGH RECALLED psWi022572 PAGE 02 TOR:250/21:14Z 0TG:071908Z SEP 73 SECRET *******S CODy No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/09/25: LOC-HAK-139-6-11-9 No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/09/25: LOC-HAK-139-6-11-9 SECRET *******S CODY NoRAL CHANNELS TO INFORM 0THERs IN THE DEPARTMENT AND APPRFIPRIATE AMBASSADORS OF GIST OF JOBERT'S POSITION, ALL GOOD WISHES FOR YOUR CONFIRMATION HEARINGS AND WA.REST REGARDS, IRWIN SECRETEYES ONLY BT :.c22572 RECALLED PAGE 03 O 03 TOR : 250/21 DTG:071908Z SEP 73 No Objection to Declassification in Part 2012/09/25: LOC-HAK-139-6-11-9