CIA CHIEF: NOT ALL AT HARVARD TELL OF TIES

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP99-00498R000300030016-2
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• Document Creation Date: December 20, 2016
• Document Release Date: February 28, 2007
• Sequence Number: 16
• Publication Date: December 1, 1978
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scadcs out there unless tliey-do that. In short, that I
should" -sure compliance withBok's'rule. My position
ihaf ius rule applies to Harvard and not to me"
Steiner agreed that-it was not Turners responsibility -.{
F professors would comply with. the guidelines, although
they:are voluntary; "for the university's sake and for
y'Steiner explained that while Harvard "'sees nothing
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But Turner specifically- objected to the-.%-Harvard'
guidelines because they single out only CIA contracts for.
gisclosureSome other schools, Turner said, require dis-.
lbsureof all outside contracts
tarn Harvard professors are ignoringJuni i "That,I don't object to at all," he said. "But here, this
versity guidelines by refusing to,reveal dose-to; Salem;: Massachusetts, we have an example
--of academics?.in.intelligence,work, and
suggested that it ought to be expanded=,-,
:rather than further regulated.::
fast with Harvard President Derek C--. Bok
this morning, Turner's-comments-indicat
'ed that the differences ?between;the-two--:
men have continued-to -simmer sincether;
sa iety=:and saying` we. are pariahs and an association]
ISteiner called Turner's claim that a relationship with
the-CIAistthe same as a relationship with a business or-
It was the CIA that the Senate Select Committee on
gence said was engaging in improper activities on
`US=campuses and it was the committee. that suggested,
ti t universities look and see if guidelines were needed,"
Sfeinersaid ;fir a?~ rr
~In fact, Harvard's primary concern in drawing up the
guidelines was to prevent any covert presence of the CIA
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coign students as potential contacts.
=? *But Turner, while not detailing just how such recruit-
ir >is now handled, said that "there's nothing in-the laws
ofViis land that say we couldn't recruit foreigners in the
Uaited States to work for us overseas."
'. irner's insistence on, having the right to use aci-
demics, even in instances where universities have tried
todiscourage it, reflects the agency's continuing reliance
guidelines -were,released in May 1977 -` I : uptin the human element in intelligence gathering
--::Daniel:-:Steiner, .Harvard's general although the CIA has begun to rely more and more on ?
counsel; said yesterday that- the.-guide=:; technological surveillance and intelligence techniques --
lines don't_prohibitconsulting relation- methods.that appear to work well in military and eco-
?ships with the CIA, and he wasn't sure it ~~ic,,areas~~- human contacts have proved more relit
was those- relationships to which Turner,;
.referred.=._
But, even in consultant relationships,
the -Harvard guidelines do recommend
that "the individual should report in writ-
ing the existence of such an arrangement""
to the dean who would then report the-
matter to Bok.
Turner did "not indentify thepofrtes=
sons or say how many.are- involved or
' what services they provide, but said they
have chosen not to honor a university _re-
quest that certain relationships with. them.
CIA be.reported to the-university ad in
} istration ` , :~
Turner said that, while.he "remui s"
prospective CIA candidates of the.guid
lines, '"if. that individual 'elects-not` to..
(comply) because he.may- think. it's--aria
infringement of his right of association,
I'm not about to force him-
"The remarks came during an hourlong
ere
interview at The Boston Globe . during ;-1 orr,campus, especially in the area of recruiting. w
-which Turner defended the'agency.s-user professors were sometimes asked to submit the names of
Turner said that "a suggestion has
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able in the more sensitive political arena.
xTurner denied reports that the agency has not maxim
izesl the role of-human intelligence gathering in recent
years, :a factor which, some critics claim, played a role in
the CIA's. poor advance warning about the recent politi
cal+upheaval in Iran_ ,
In the wake of the Iran disturbances, President Jim
my Carterwas-criticalofthe CIA's.performance and sug-
gested review of intelligence gathering problems.
Turrier again. touching ontlie value of. academics who
f,travet,fretluently and, often freely in countries where
they hive articular expertise; .said that "if-I regret any-
thug in .theIran thing; it's maybe.thatwedidn't tap the
Sttrner said thatwhile'Tve tried to open up the agen
cy and disclose more,"; eaks of classified information=.'.~
have'been "veryharinful," and that he is "doing'eveerryy
thingg can to: close. the. loops and. cut you .people (the.',
mediatoff from what ; is: properly classified information."
. Nevertheless, Turner sai4 he believed that the CIA is `
Vnow being viewed in'a more favorable. light, adding that
"there's been a marked shift in the last 10 or 12 months is
'the Congress, in the public and even in the media."
He;saidthat, except in the Ivy League colleges,
re-rut-or;the CIA has remained stable and improved
.insome cases.
1ven at. Ivy Le
limited to theacademic-commumty;brut extend -tobusi- y:. 8.p p
ners men and; others with some expertise in forei know that we re proud to.be.in the CIAO
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affairs Ja"(fjit+~"'~i-t. arts i "fir ?tip
ac lemic talent as much as could-have"
/`Heointed.u- t tI~ .c: ' sts arg noc that we that shingle up that s ays`CIA, I'm here to
~?.~ -~ r t' i'~the nil" an le of the "country ought to
asked whetter theagency still used members of _the
ti8fisliips"'with: aerredited US.news,~personnel unless,
efvs= media as sources.of information, :Turner said "I
regarding CIA work to anyone but the Peaee Corps.
\ Where does -it end?" he : asked' "If we exempt you,
exmpt the academics, the clerics, the Peace'. Corps, pret
t}asoon business will come in and it will just drive us out,
s"I respect the fact that it's not a good idea to'cast your
tjoarnalism) profession in doubt;"_Turner:said, but he
added that he was. reluctant to grant-blanket exemptions
first approved by hum. ' ;r