FROM MOSCOW TO YEREVAN

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understanding nature rather than humbling it, and studying the
boundary between inner and outer self. Also, a clear desire for
openness and cooperation-rather than for developing military
uses of psi-was expressed by many speakers at the conference.
We certainly agree with this position.
FROM MOSCOW TO YEREVAN
In September 1983, we received an invitation to visit the Soviet
Union as guests of the U.S.S.R. Academy of Sciences. This gave
us an opportunity to discuss our remote-viewing work with them,
and also to learn firsthand what sort of research they are currently
doing. Our host for this visit was Dr. Andrei Berezine, a biophys-
icist working at a Moscow research hospital. of R.T.), who
With us on the trip was Elisabeth Targ (daughter
holds a translator's certificate in Russian and is a second-year
medical student at Stanford. She was able to act as our translator
and tell us what was going on at times when Russian conversations
would have otherwise gone over our heads.
sts, and d med-
ical Moscow we spoke with physicists, psychologists, with dis-
cussing researchers. The physicists were mainly concerned y
cussing the details of our precognitive experiments, while the
medical people and psychologists had many good questions and
interesting ideas about the whole field of psi research and its
implications for their work. We had very stimulating exchanges
with both groups of scientists.
Over coffee and pastries at the First Moscow Medical Institute,
we met Professor Andriankyn, director of the Theoretical, De-
partment of the U.S.S.R. Academy of Sciences. Andriankyn,
responsible for inviting us to the Soviet Union, sponsored our
visit. His main concern at this Institute is with non-drug treatment
of mental patients. One focus of this work concerns the experi-
mental use of low-frequency electric and magnetic fields.
At the Institute, we also talked with Dr. I or Smirnoff and two
other researchers who had just completed experiment in "rat
telepathy" described earlier in this chapter. As we sat in their
equipment-crowded basement laboratory, along with several other
medical people from the hospital, they discussed the experiment
with us. They had discovered that the experiment was not c
c essf l when carried out with groups of rats, because they fought
with each other under the stressful conditions.
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Konstantine Goubarev is a physicist involved with the rat ex-
periment. However, he is personally most concerned with the
design of a computer program that analyzes a person's physio-
logical data to determine from that data when a particular change
in his or her state of consciousness, such as dropping into a hyp-
notized condition, has occurred. He demonstrated the program for
us, on typical data tapes. He believes that he has accomplished
his goal of showing changes in the state of human consciousness
by looking at mathematical transformations of the data and ob-
serving phase changes rather than amplitude changes- This would
be quite an accomplishment, because at this time it is not even
clear to Western researchers that hypnosis is a definable change
of state.
We were also very happy to meet again with Dr. Yuri Gulyaev
at his Institute of Radio Engineering and Electronics overlooking
Gorky park. We all sat on comfortable red leather chairs in his
spacious office, while over countless ceremonial glasses of Ar-
menian cognac Dr. Gulyaev described some of his most recent
work. He also gave us a copy of I. M. Kogan's new book Applied
Information Theory. Professor Kogan argues that if psychic phe-
nomena are to be explained at all, it will have to be through low-
frequency electromagnetic principles. Gulyaev told us that the first
person to put forward the idea that psi was carried by electro-
magnetic waves was James Clark Maxwell, in the last century,
and that his idea was described in a recent U.S.S.R. Academy of
Sciences journal dealing with the measurement of biomagnetic
fields.
Along with his duties as deputy director of the Institute, Gul-
yae4 is able to pursue his,interests in psychotronics as well. With
his colleague Dr. Eduard Godik, he has been examining the elec-
tromagnetic and visible radiation emitted by the human body. They
have carried out sensitive photon-counting experiments with a
spectrometer that measures the wavelength of the emitted light,
and found that there may be some physical evidence for the so-
called auras that certain people claim to see surrounding the human
body.
Professor Gulyaev said that he has also been able, to a limited
extent, to continue his work with Nina Kulagina. He described a
particularly interesting experiment in which he tried to find out if
she could use her psychic abilities to read letters. In these trials,
he randomly chose a book from the shelves of his office and asked
Kulagina to name the letters that started each paragr ph on a given
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