CENTER LANE INTERVIEW SUMMARY - HU-1079/8404/01

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• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP96-00788R001900620001-4
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• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
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• Publication Date: July 3, 1984
• Content Type: MFR

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MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD
SUBJECT: CENTER LANE Interview Summary - HU-1079/8404/01 (U)
1. (S/CL-3/NOFORN) On 181045 April 1984, source #01 was
interviewed by monitor #66 concerning the location of an
individual identified as William F. Buckley. The project 8404
sponsor had provided a photograph of Buckley (see Incl 1).
2. (S/CL-3/NOFORN) For this interview source was shown the
photograph provided by the sponsor and asked to focus his
attention on the events and location of Buckley on 20 April
1984. No other identifying data was provided to source at the
time of the interview but source had become aware that Buckley
was a kidnap victim. All other intelligence information was
withheld for use as feedback and cuing for possible subsequent
interviews.
3. (U) A transcript of the interview was prepared (see Incl 2).
4. (U) A DA Form 341 (Agent Report) was prepared for the
sponsor. This report related the salient points of the
interview. Attached to the report were drawings provided by the
Source (see Incl 3).
Association with the below named individual and Military
Intelligence is CONFIDENTIAL.
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NOTE: Information of immediate operational value was provided to
sponsor immediately, or as soon as possible, after the interview.
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TRANSCRIPT HU-1079/8404/01
#66: This is ROJ for 4/18/84, the time is 1045 hours.
Okay, I'm going to shut my volume down and let you do
your thing now. Reel time plus ten minutes. Plus 10
minutes. Reel time plus 24 minutes. All right, relax
and concentrate now. Relax and focus your attention
on the 20th of April 1984 on the individual in the
photograph I've shown you and describe his location to
me.
#01: Ah . . . . . . um . . . two story residence .......It's embedded
in ah..whole bunch of other residences, buildings all
jumbled packed together. ......... Um..second floor's
got ah..open balcony on the roof. Looks like the
second floor is only 2/3 of the first floor, the
size. There's a...side deck that opens, creates a
roof on the first floor. ........ It's the color
red. See red trim, it's a light building with red
trim. ..... Garage under the second floor to the
left. ........Get an impression of a couple tall
buildings interconnected with these residences. One
tall building's ah.... multiple stories and it's on a
corner. And then there's ah.... um...ah...front room
shop next to the garage underneath second floor, so
the residence is a dual function place. It's ah..
shop, then home. .............. I don't see a back to
this building, it's like ..... slant roof's coming off
another building and facing the opposite direction.
It's connected directly to it. ....... Ah ..... See
ah..a main street...ah.."T" intersection main
street..up the road from it. .......... And ah...
........break from it and go to the left. There's a
courtyard a half a block down and across the street
from it, courtyard with a ah.... um.... it's not a
fountain, it's some kind of a decorative thing,
sitting on a pedestal.
#66: Go 100 feet above the decorative thing and look down.
Describe patterns.
#01: ......Many buildings all interconnected, target
building'ss to the left, um..250 feet away. Big, big
building on the corner is a bank. I see a lot of
boards up over the windows, ah..big sections of
boards. ..... I sense ah..going to the left from the
courtyard with this statue or whatever it is, the "T"
intersection if you hang a right it would go to the
center of, center of town, which is in the shape of a
"U". ....um..a modified "U".
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#66: Okay. 500 feet above the courtyard area, describe the
shape of the courtyard area.
#01: It's ah....The exterior outlines is perfectly square,
but there's a ...ah..octagon outline that's within the
square. It's an awful lot of bushes or trees or
something inside the courtyard. House behind it's got
slanted plates or slanted iron over the windows. It's
horizontal,... recessed doorway, deeply recessed.
#66: Okay. This courtyard area with something decorative
in it?
#66: Describe the road situation in relationship with this
courtyard.
#01: Ah...it's a little bit larger than three lanes wide
and it's got a funny paving to it. I see lines, all
criss-crossing lines in it. Cars parked diagonally
across the street, but parallel, bumper to bumper on
the side of the street of the courtyard.
#66: If I was driving a car down the street, would I have
to negotiate the courtyard in some way?
#01: No, it'd be on your immediate right. I have trouble
seeing a definition between the edge of the courtyard
and the street however, so I suspect there's no curve
there. Seems to be a continuation of the same paving.
#66: What is the name of the courtyard?
#01: ........ Ah...... Ah..F A Y E L L I A, E L L A E, It's
like ya, ya ya, that kind of thing, fayell-yah, yah,
yah that kind of thing.
#66: Okay, now go down the road other direction from the
courtyard and the building.
#01: Well, I can't, I can only go as far as the "T"
intersections, which is a four lane highway, high
steep walls and buildings around it, large building
with eleven stories, on the right is a bank that's
closed, left to right at the "T" intersection.
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#66:
Okay, the bank itself is
the one with the boards on
it?
#01:
Yeah, it's a corner
up under the corner
building. It's like the
of the actual front of
entry is
the
building. Um...bottom portion is gray stone,
marble,
upper portion is light, many windows. ....Right turn,
he made a right turn there, it's progressively park
adjusted, steadily going into the center of town, very
steep high walls of buildings on both sides. Made a
left at that corner, the road only goes about 2 blocks
and drops to the left just a little bit. ............
There's ah ........ church very near by, it's a block
and a half away.
#66: Let's go back to the man himself, let's go back to the
man himself and let's work with that for a minute.
#01: Okay, just a minute ......... Impression of..ah....same
problem as I perceived before, but I don't perceive
it's his right side that's bad, it's his left, to the
point of partial paralysis, ...... left ear, left side
....... health just continuing to deteriorate as
before. .... I don't see him being held with anybody
else, however, seems to be alone.
#66: Okay, from time to time that happens. Let's go beyond
his conscious awareness, down into his deep
subconscious and ask him and his greater self to tell
you where he is.
01: ................Um, I keep getting ah .....
um..ah..ah..this street is french name ah..something
about holiday view or ah view of holiday or something
like that in french.
#66: All right, in the past we have dealt, not only you but
others, that gotten an awful lot of french, we believe
the subject in this case speaks french. Ask him to
tell you what it is in Arabic, so we might find it on
a map.
#01: Um, um, just a minute. Two words, A L, second word D
A M I E E L, L and then Damur. It's definitely an E
on it but the front of the second word seems to be a
little screwy, the...it's like missing a syllable, DA
something ...DARAMILL or something like that. I think
the A L, AL is just a prefix or something for the
street. DA, DARMELIEEL.
#66: Say again.
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#01: DARMELIEEL, something like that, it's phonic. It's
DARMELIEEL, M E L I EE L , D A R A M A M I E E L.
#66: Ask him to tell you more about where he is. Remember
you must ask his deep, deep subconscious, hypnotize
him, guide him deeper and deeper and deeper into the
things he knows but doesn't realize consciously he
knows. You guide him deeper and deeper and deeper.
#01: .......... This is a section of town where there used
to be a lot flowers sold. It's like a flower market
area. It's off a side street in the flower market.
#66: Describe that to me again, please.
#01: The only thing I can figure out is that.. this is a
specific area of the town where they used to sell, and
I don't know if they still do, it's like an old market
place for flowers. It's like a specific area you go
to buy flowers. More flowers shops than anything in
this area.
#66: All right, we understand that. Go back in, go back in
to him deeper and deeper and deeper and have him
elaborate and tell you a little bit more. We
understand that very well.
#01: ..... The only other thing we get is ah ..... got to?do
with some refugees. It's like a little section off to
the side is refugees. Farmer types ah..all over
country. ...Got a ah..input on the organization here
that ah...it's ahh, um...an masoon group that, that
did something, they did something something in that
town ah...a town on the coast, North, radical
ah...ah...radical ..war like function or objective or
something on the coast, in a town called ah....DAMUR,
DAMUR or something D A M U R. R, DAMURRR, I keep
wanting to add more Rs, DAMURR, something like that.
They ah....They committed some form of atrocity there
in the recent past, same radical group. (break and
end of tape) or a religious stand point, ...the point
of, you know, propagating or pushing a holy war type
thing. We have an impression that this is like the
southern, one of the southern most..Christian towns
that they raided or something and they're known for
this raid, this atrocity.
#66: Group has been described a strongly anti-christian?
........ All right. Ask the man in the photograph what
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he can see, if he were to look out of a window in the
room he was in, what he could see out that window?
#01: ............ Windows where he's at. The window in the
front of the building, he's been held in, has view of
a three story building with triple garages under it,
iron gates pull across the garages. ............ links
around.
#66: Ask him, the man in the photograph, to describe what
he hears?
#01: .............It's everyday noises, cars, people,
traffic, yelling kids, banging around of things.
#66: Has he heard his captors talk at all?
#01: ...... Very rarely, and then one will come now and then
to ..... harass him more than anything. ..... He still
has no understanding for why they're holding on to
him. It doesn't make any sense.
#66: Okay, this sense you had of no windows in the
building, describe the raw data that makes you say no
windows. No windows in the room.
#01: ......No light, no openings, smooth walls,... corner,
..closed, enclosed ...... almost a storage room feel to
it. ..............................................
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