CENTER LANE INTERVIEW SUMMARY - CL-1006/8305/01(Sanitized)

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• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
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• Sequence Number: 1
• Publication Date: April 20, 1983
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SUBJECT: CENTER LANE Interview Summary - CL-1006/8305/01 (U)
1. (S/NOFORN) On 140900 April 1983, source #O1 was
interviewed by #66 in an attempt to determine the location of
a specific item during the time window 15 - 18 April 1983.
Source was questioned concerning an area designated by the
project 8305 sponsor as being a suspected location for the
specific item. The project 8305 sponsor had provided the
geographic coordinate of the suspected location (see Intl 1).
2~~~kr~frRi~-) For this interview source was provided the
geographic coordinate of the suspected location and asked to
focus his attention on the area on the time period 15 - 18
April 1983. Source was not told what specific item was
suspected to be at-this location or given any other data. The
collection plan called for the use of all other information
available as "feedback" and cuing material for possible
subsequent interviews.
3. (U) A transcript of the interview was prepared including
a narrative explanation of the drawings which source provided
(see Incl 2).
4. (U) A DA Form 341 (Agent Report) was prepared far the
sponsor. This report related the salient points of the
interview. Attached as a exhibit to the Agent Report was a
copy of source's drawings (see Incl 3).
3 Incl
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FREDERICK H. ATWATER
CPT, MI
OPS/TNG Officer
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Project 83015 suspect location:
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#66: This will be a CENTER LANE Interview for 0900'hours
14 April 1983. Concentrate now, concentrate and
focus on the area
SG1 B
Mave through space in present time to this area.
Move your awareness, your attention, your focus to
this place at present time and describe it to me.
#O1: .....The...it's like an industrial area of a city,
see many big buildings, flat roof tops, access
roads, rail lines, fences, southeast side of a
city....See a...plant, large plant area
that's..wired off from the rest, its own fences.
It's gat a..inside Criss-cross the road. Foundry
stacks...have tall stacks.....Tall square
buildings ...............Saw a harbor too, I think.
No. I saw a..those are loading ramps...long narrow
loading ramps.......
#66: Describe this to me, these loading ramps.
#Ol: Hmm..it's straight. There're a...coming off the end
of..a raised area. Got some kind of ramp going up
the side...Long and narrow and there's..a narrow
road running parallel.
#66: Okay. Move up and look dawn so you can just see the
whole thing.
#O1: Get an impression of a..another rail yard, but
a..some ramps that go up parallel to the tracks,
same kind of flat roofed warehouse buildings to the
rear, parking lot shaped like a triangle, angular
shape....Ah..see armored vehicles with tarps,
wrapped in canvas.
#66: All right. Staying here, focusing here where you
are, where is the harbor from here?
#O1: ..Almost due north, ah..two kilometers, twa
thousand meters, a little bit and more west than
north. Comes in..a bowl shape from the north.
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#66: Okay. Now to the, I believe you called it a
warehouse area, tell me more about this.
#O1: Part of a..some kind of plant. See a....assembly
areas, ..rows of material..... It's a place that
builds a..builds these armored things wrapped in
canvas.
#66: Tell me about these things wrapped in canvas.
#01: Just a minute..........These are like the tanks
yesterday.
#66: I'm sorry, I didn't understand.
#O1: These are like the tanks yesterday, not only their
turrets are turned backwards, the barrels are
flattened.......These are a..heavy tanks.
#66: Okay. Move now from this area to the harbor
area,....and focus now on the area pinpointed by
the coordinates I have provided.
#Ol: ...I just see a...square black top inside a fence
that's empty.
#66: All right. Hold your focus now in this general
area, hold your focus in this general area and
prepare for time movement...... Move now to broaden
your time window to include 15 to 18 April in the
target area, 15 to 18 April and describe your
perceptions to me.
#01: ....Upper left corner of my view, trains going
by..backing in and out...This blacktop area is bare,
there's nothing, nothing there.....See these trains
backing in and pulling out, upper left diagonal.
Big building...left has got a...a ramp that goes to
a ..a ramp goes to the ...to the ship. I don't see
anything happening in the parking area.
#66: Okay, let's look over this building and the ramp and
the strip.
#O1: See a..a ramp goes from west, northwest, parallel to
the rails terminate..these armored tanks are..driven
down the ramp..straight on to the ship.
#66: Describe armor.
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#O1:
Same as before, the large tanks.
#66:
All
for
right. In this group of armor, we are looking
something special, something different. Examine
very carefully to see if there are items that are
different from the others. Explore the inventory.
#O1:
,...See three are different.
#66:
Describe.
#Ol:
Just a minute.
#66:
I will wait.
#Ol; ,..........There're lower, have heavy plate on the
sides. The end of the turret is narrower. Seems to
be more squared....it's more of a protruding "V" in
the front..and a plate under it.....And the turret
is farther back from the center. Seems to be
lighter, looks lighter, but it's stronger.....
#66: Describe this scene as you discovered these three
different objects.
#O1: They are brought from inside the building and loaded
on the ship. They're like stored there and they are
loaded on the ship, like the others.
#66: The others also came from the building?
#O1: No. Others came from the train...
#66: Describe ship.
#O1: Front nose lifts up..as a ramp..Ship looks like
a...medium size cargo vessel. Dominant color is
light blue. It's got deck cargo space, as well.
#66: Describe position on ship, storage of items.
#Ol: Ori the last, last deck down, just rear of center
line.......seems to be more things on the ship than
armor.
#66: Describe.
#O1: ...See pallets with..a...many things like..a..repair
parts equipments, inventory of..engine apparatus,
generators.....many kinds of..war type
equipment..general supply ship..feeling.
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#66: Break out war type equipment.
#O1: .....Crates of ammunition, shells, large caliber,..a
..submachine guns..explosives, rocket
launchers....it's across the board arms shipment.
Seems like there's, just a minute.......Impression
of ..mostly light arms,..mixed with a..heavies..some
cannons, towable cannons.
#66: All right....Now remembering very carefully,
remembering the time window of 15 to 18 April, the
time window from 15 to 18 April, go deeper now, go
deeper into the problem, deeper beyond the limiting
confines of my questions, deeper still and explore.
#Ol: ...............Get an impression that's probably
overlay. Get an impression of a direct assault on
this ship,...within the site of...beach that's got
much green...some kind of slow moving..fighter
aircraft and smaller patrol boat type..boats. I
can't tell if it's overlay, I get a feeling like
it's...more thought than real.
#66: All right.
#O1: ...Very far away feeling when I get that. Guess not
a complete picture.......That's all I got.
#66: Okay. Remembering the perceptions you have had so
that you may draw for me accurately and completely,
let's now prepare to draw.
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#Ol: Okay, my drawings are page #1 which. is a general
overlay of the entire area, the harbor, the industry
and the city, beaches.
#O1: Page 2 is a more detailed drawing of the harbor area
which is missing some detail, but gives the general
layout of where the ship is actually located and
where the heavy tanks arrive from and where the ones
came from that were different. And specifies
location of those three different tanks in the hole
of the ship. That's only view of the ship I could
do.
#66: Okay. I'd like to interrupt you for a minute. Is
this ship made up of multiple decks?
#O1: Absolutely. There's other decks. The things that
are being loaded into the ship, are being loaded
into the lower deck, next deck up from the bilge.
And those incidentaly are stored just forward in the
engine room.
#O1: Page #3 is a artistic rendering of this different
kind of tank and it conceptually presents the ideas
of the differences between these three tanks and the
normal heavy tanks that are being loaded, arriving
and are being loaded on the ship. I wish I could do
this better. But I'm just getting a concept of this
tank, the differences and that's essentially it.
#66: Okay.
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t. REPORT OF FRVDINGS __.__-..~
On 14 April 1983, Source CL-Ol was interviewed in an
atternpt to determine the location of a specific item during
the period 15 through 18 April 1983. Source was questioned
concerning a designated area suspected of being the location
of the specific item. Source stated substantially as follows:
Source described an industrial area on the southeast side
of a city (drawing 1). Source reported a Large plant area,
many large buildings with flat top roofs, rail Tines and/or a
rai]. yard, warehouse buildings, foundry stacks, and a harbor
area.
In the warehouse area there were armored vehicles, heavy
tanks (not further identified) which may have been built at
the nearby plant. The armored vehicles appeared to be
covered with tarps or wrapped in canvas. Source described the
warehouse area as part of a plant, approximately 2 kilometers
Pram a harbor.
In the harbor area (drawing 2) there was a medium size
cargo vessel friat further identified) . Sometime during tkie
period 15 through 18 April 1983, this ship loaded heavy tanlts
(not further identified) brought by rail car from the
warehouse area described above, and three tanks (not further
identified), different from the others, which were brought
from a nearby building where they had been stored. Source
presented an artistic rendering of these different tanks in
Drawing 3. Also Loaded was military equipment to include, but
not Limited to, repair parts for engines and generators (not
further identified), crates o.f ammunition (not further
identified), large caliber shells (not further identified),
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