INFORMATION PAPER - GRILL FLAME (U)

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: STARGATE
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210021-9
• Release Decision: RIFPUB
• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 2
• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
• Document Release Date: December 4, 1998
• Sequence Number: 21
• Publication Date: October 27, 1978
• Content Type: PAPER

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INFORMATION PAPER
SUBJECT: GRILL FLAME (U)
DAMI-ISH
27 Oct 78
ISSUE: (S/NOFORN) Use of USofA's name in conjunction with
Monroe Institute of Applied Science (MIAS).
FACTS:
1. (U) Robert A. Monroe is Executive Director of MIAS,
Afton, VA.
2. (U) Mr. Monroe claims to be able to train persons in
a technique that induces a so-called out-of-body experience,
in which the individual perceives himself to be physically
at some target site.
3. (S/NOFORN) Under the Project Title GONDOLA WISH, MIAS
was briefly considered earlier this year to train three or
four INSCOM Subjects.
4. (S/NOFORN) The only Army individual known by OACSI to
have ever spoken with Monroe was the GONDOLA WISH project
officer.
5. (S/NOFORN) MIAS was rejected as a training possibility
after OACSI determined a number of facts:
a. The technique used by MIAS involves senso?y depriva-
tion, and the playing of rhythmic sounds to induce an "altered
state of consciousness"--i.e., hypnosis.
b. In the altered state of mind, the Subject undergoes
some sort of interrogation by Monroe or an assistant.
c. Several years ago the CIA determined that.Monroe is:~
not a security risk per se; but, for obvious reasons, they
will not permit their people to undergo training at MIAS.
CIA's interest came at a time when they were examining several
alternatives to further the investigation of the phenomena.
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SUBJECT: GRILL FLAME (U)
d. Altering anyone's state of mental or physical being
comes under a Federal statute which covers experimentation
on human beings. The Department of HEW is required to review
all proposed experiments of that kind, and approve them before
any Federal monies can be spent.
e. Neither Monroe nor the Institute has had any sort of
security clearance.
5. (S/NOFORN) Off the record, DIA and CIA personnel who are
very familiar with MIAS and Monroe believe that he is a "nice
guy" who is trying to cash in on some unique talent that he
alone possesses. No one in either agency believes that time
or money should be spent on MIAS.
C~OLO,0~
E R. THOMPSON
Major General, USA
ACotS for Intelligence
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