CENTER LANE INTERVIEW - CL-1017/8303/08

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• Publication Date: May 24, 1983
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SUBJECT: CENTER LANE Interview Summary - CL-1017/8303/08 (U)
1. (S/CL-3/NOFORN) On 120930 May 1983, source #08 was
interviewed concerning a
3. (U) A transcript of the interview was prepared including
a narrative explanation of the drawings which source provided
(see Incl 2).
4. (U) A DA Form 341 (Agent Report) was prepared for the
sponsor. This report related the salient points of the
interview. Attached as an exhibit to the DA Form 341 was a
copy of source's drawings (see Incl 3).
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#66: This will be a CENTER LANE Interview for 0930 hours
12 May 1983. Relax and concentrate now, relax and
concentrate focusing your attention on the building
in the photograph I've shown you. Concentrate now
on the area of interest in the photograph, of the
activities of 12 May 1983. Focus now and describe
your perceptions to me.
#08: ......There is a .....there is an important facet
that has to do with a ...a pipe .....um ...
#66: Describe
#08: The diameter is about 3 1/2,...a little more than 3
1/2 inches in diameter. That pipe is just
been. brought up before, ..being installed. It's an
iron pipe...black or dark brown in color.
#66: Tell me about this pipe today, 12 May '83.
#08: It has just been brought up, it is for installation.
#66: Describe installation.
#08: ...... It will be...installed on the west wall.. at
the,..at the foot of the west wall,.... the. . .inside
of that structure. ... It is the .......the
receptacle, the.....as a safeguard, the conduit, if
you wish (mumble). ....The important lines
..electronic..lines for equipment (mumble) .....
#66: You're describing how this pipe is used?
#08: Yeah.
#66: Say again.
#08: ......It contains, an access of cover for, ..the
electronic lines installed into that building.
#66: Do I understand that this is a pipe through which
other wires pass?
#08: Yes .
#66: All right. Look around the area and tell me what's
going on right now, today.
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#08: .........Of the, all walls are..white and finished
except for ......the electrical connection which has
not been made. And the electrical connections are
the most important feature of this.. room.
The ......the final ..installation ..........will not
be complete for another 8, 8 or 9 days, 10 days.
The building is ready to receive.... The..... The
electronic piece of equipment, but it's not there
yet ...It's not physically in that ...building .
#66: Describe the structural characteristics.
#08: Of the building?
#66: Yes .
#08: ....Go from the a...we're talking
about 2x4s, we're talking about 3 inches of
insulation, we're talking about a sheet rock, we're
talking plywood on the exterior, which is already
done .
#66: All right, describe type of insulation and fasteners
used in this building material.
#08: It's real long insulation. The...only peculiarity
that I see is ..the ..a roof, joists are, ..reenforced
by..metal ...a metal..piece, so that each roof joist
is screwed on to the frame... They are (mumble)
..the walls are complete. There's no siding
yet,.... exterior siding to the walls. ...And this
will be done. The whole thing is going to be done
very rapidly. But the ultimate purpose of the thing
will be attained from the..7 or 8 days, and it
surrounds the piece of equipment that has to be
brought in.
#66: Okay. Describe the interior that will contain this
piece of equipment.
#08: ......Talking about an antenna ........ Antenna being
seated....in the middle of that room.. .get the
indication, intercept antenna. This is meshing in
now with a previous session.
#66: Okay. You say there are,..this thing is going to be
installed in there, this thing you perceive as being
an antenna, tell me about the area, the interior
area.
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#08: It's going to be installed at just about in the
middle of the floor.
#66: Um-um. Now tell me about the area surrounding the
middle. Describe this.
#08: As it stands right now, it's newly constructed, it
almost looks hygienic, like everything is very
clean, very white, protruding from some of the walls
are wires, that have not been tied down yet or
switches that have not been completed. This remains
to be done.
#66: Okay.
#08: I have nothing more, unless you've got something
specific .
#66: Okay, fine. Take to review a moment and remember
what you've seen so that you might draw.
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#08: Okay, in sketch #1, what I've drawn is a sketch of
the west wall, so labeled and the floor at an angle
to the wall. The impression of a pipe, about 3 1/2
to 4 inches in diameter, seemed to be of primary
concern. Looking into it further, I perceived it
to be ready for installation at the foot of the west
wall, I'm speaking of the interior of the building.
And at about the center of the west wall there' s a
curved joint that leads this pipe to about the
center of the floor, where the antenna seat and
support apparatus is located. The antenna as I saw
it, was not installed. So much for sketch #1.
#08: Sketch #2 is an attempt to look at the actual
construction material of the building. And it
seemed to follow the normal patent of normal
construction and from the interior to the exterior,
we're talking about sheet rock, heavy sheet rock,
maybe 3/4 quarter inch, I don't know. Followed by 3
inch fiber glass roll on insulation in between 2x4s
with an exterior of 3/4 inch plywood with, I said
siding to follow, the siding has not been put on
yet. But there's plans, simply plans to put the
siding on. Looking for special or specific
construction a quirks, so to speak, the only thing
I could perceive were metal reenforcements that were
screwed to the wall studs and the ceiling, the roof
studs. I could see nothing else though. (mumble),
we might have brought my attention to a specific
form of construction.
#66: Okay. This area that you say that is being readied
for the installation of some sort of antenna? Is
that correct?
#08: Yes
#66: Okay. Is the building section here that we're
exploring partitioned off or are there other things
in this room being prepared?
#08: The only, what I was looking for was the status
construction and the impression I had was of white,
very clean walls that you would anticipate after
construction (mumble) and shortly before or after
painting with a peculiarity and that is a
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perceptable, number of wires coming through the
sheet rock, particularly at the antenna seat and
support, where these things are simply there, but
not tied down, but are simply being readied and
placed, or they're already in place and all they
have to do is be connected to switches and equipment.
#66: Okay, if I understand, you talked about 2 sets of
wires, some wires that come through the wall.
#08: Yeah, those are electrical.
#66: And what do you mean be electrical wires?
#08: Electrical as opposed to the wires that will service
the antenna.
#66: Okay . And there are another set of wires that you
talked about that are located at the antenna point
which is somewhere in the center of the room?
#08: Yes, yes, they're the ones that will be embedded
into that pipe, not really embedded, but will be
covered by this pipe as a protective device.
#66: And they seem to be ready to be hooked up to the
antenna?
#08: Yes . They're just about to install the pipe. The
pipe was just brought up, it had not been installed
yet.
#66: Okay. Anything else?
#08: No.
#66: Okay, fine.
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For use of this form, see FM 30-17(C); AR 381-20; the proponent agency is the office of the Assistant Chief of Staff for Intel Iigenca.
t, NAME of SUBJECT OR TITLE Of INCIDENT DATE SUBMITTED
On 12 May 1983, Source CL-08 was interviewed concerning a
As of 12 May 1983, the interior of the newly constructed
portion looked almost hygienic; everything was very clean,
very white, There were wires (not further identified)
protruding from some of the walls. These wires had not yet
been connected (not further identified). A black or dark
brown metal conduit pipe, approximately four inches in
diameter, had just been brought into the newly constructed
area and was to be installed at the foot of the west wall on
the inside of the structure. This pipe was to serve as a
"safeguard" or protective device for important electronic
lines for equipment. In about the center of the west wall,
the conduit pipe had a curved joint where the pipe turned and
went to about the center of the floor. At this point there
was an antenna seat and support apparatus (not further
identified). Source anticipated the installation of an
intercept antenna (not further identified) on this support
apparatus within the next ten days. Source also stated that
the wires that would be in the conduit pipe served a different
function (not further identified) than the ones which
protruded from the walls.
Source described the construction of the walls of the
structure as consisting of heavy sheet rock on the interior
wall with fiber glass insulation placed between "two-by-fours"
on the inside of the walls. The exterior of the wall was
covered with plywood and there were plans for the later
installation of siding (not further identified) . Source
thought it peculiar (no reason given) that each roof joist was
secured to the frame with metal brackets and screws.
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