GRILL FLAME BRIEFING FOR NSA SCIENTIFIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE, 28 AUGUST 1981

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CIA-RDP96-00788R001200190001-9
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June 19, 1998
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September 1, 1981
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Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : r. 88ROO1200190001-9 SG1I SG1I MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD 1 September 1981 SUBJECT: GRILL FLAME Briefing for NSA Scientific Advisory Committee, 28 August 1981 (U) SG1I 1. (C) BACKGROUND: NSA has been sending a representative as an-unofficial observer to the DoD GRILL FLAME meetings for some time. However, been an active partner in the GRILL FLAME effort. Recently,. had been directed by the.DIRNSA to have the NSA Scientific Advisory Committee study the current DoD program and to make a recommendation as to whether or not NSA should support the current DoD effort. proceeded to SG11 arrange a series of briefings for this committee to include: a. CIA presentation c. SRI-I presentation - Dr. Puthoff d. INSCOM presentation - LTC Watt e. Unofficial presentation - CDR Stewart 2. (U) I presented a two-hour briefing to the committee on 28 Aug 81. Following b. DIA presentation - personnel were present: SG1 I NSA (Tech Applications & Advancement) Dr. Willis Ware, Chairman, NSA Scientific.Advisory Committee Rand Corporation, Santa Monica, California Dr. James Burnett, Member of Committee 'P , TRW Dr. Ronald Wigington, Member of Committee Director, R&D Chemical Abstract Services SG1I Member of Committee Re ired from NSA (former Crypto Manager) SG1I CDR Jake Stewart Office of Naval Intelligence UT - IGN.NATIONALS N Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001200190001-9 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-0 7 8R001200190001-9 li.tl 7P I SEC . 1~ 3. (U) LTC Robert Jachim INSCOM LTC Murray B. Watt INSCOM Inclosure 1 provides the outline of the presentation I gave them. 4. (C) I showed the committee several examples of our finished products including complete details on how we conducted our sessions. Further, I passed around selected samples of GRILL FLAME evaluations that we have received from consumers. (See our TOP SECRET eval file.) I stressed that our effort was not research and development, but strictly operational in nature. 5. (U) I would say that the committee received the presentation. with an "open mind" attitude. Their questions and keen interest demonstrated that they were trying to search out the answers to a very puzzling. problem. Inclosure 1~ 1AY B WATT 1 As stated (S) LTC, MI INSCOM GRILL FLAME Regraded CONFIDENTIAL when separated Project Manager from SECRET inclosure NOTED je, /79t&, -AJ COL MILLER SECRET Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001200190001-9 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001200190001-9 PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT TIME OCT 78 - DEC 78: DEC 78 - FEB 79: APR 79 - OCT 79: HAY 79 - DEC 79: NOV 79 - PRESENT: JAN 80 - PRESENT: AUG 80 ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPI'ENT SCREENING SELECTION OF PERSONNEL IN-HOUSE TRAINING SRI ORIENTATION OPERATIONAL TASKING TASK FORCE ESTABLISHED MOVE TO NEW FACILITY NOT RELEASABLE TO FOP,EIrN NATIONALS Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001200190001-9 4 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : SECRE"T AS OF 26 JUNE 1981 TASKING ORGANIZATIONS NO. OF PROJECTS NO. OF SESSIONS HQ, USAINSCOM 2 5 NSC 3 18 JCS ACSI/AMSAA CIA 902D NIG 3 9 ITAC 120 USA OPS GP TOTALS: 64 NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS Approved For Release 2000108107: CIA-RDP96-00788 R001L Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001 SUMMARY OF SESSIONS PROJECTS: 64 *A. COMPLETED: 51 B. WORKING: 12 C. INACTIVE: 1 INTELLIGENCE PROVIDED: A. USEFUL DATA PROVIDED 24 PROJECTS B. FAILED TO HELP 24 PROJECTS *INCLUDES ONE PROJECT CANCELLED. Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R0012 Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R00 T EXCERPS FROM CUSTOMER EVALUATIONS: ITAC: There were a few spectacular reports... the project confirmed with uncanny accuracy the presence of a recently constructed major ditch array and the number and type of elite units in a remote garrison area. CIA: In sum, our experience with GF, thus far, tends to strengthen the validity of the techniques involved and also indicates that its greatest utility as an operational tool may be in the CI field. JCS: In 16 out of 18 cases GF sources described the facility in sufficient detail to allow positive identification. ITAC: I would also like to compliment you and your personnel on achieving an intelligence community "First. JCS: Therefore, it is the judgement of this analyst that extensive testing and development of control procedures be accomplished before any final assessment of the value of GF material can be made- Approved For Release 2000108107: CIA-RDP96-00788R001 1