MEETING BETWEEN BG RAPMUND AND DR. JACK VORONA (U)

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: STARGATE
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP96-00788R001100440071-5
• Release Decision: RIFPUB
• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 1
• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
• Document Release Date: June 17, 1998
• Sequence Number: 71
• Publication Date: September 1, 1981
• Content Type: MFR

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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD 1 September 1981
SUBJECT: Meeting Between B.G Rapmund and Dr. Jack Vorona (U)
1. (U) On 27 August 1981 from.0900 to 1000 hours at DIA, Pomponian.Plaza a
meeting took place between BG(P) Rapmund, CDR, USAMRDC, Ft Detrick, and
Dr. Jack Vorona, DIA, at Dr. Vorona's office. Also in attendance was
LTC Robert Jachim, INSCOM and MAJ Dennis O'Keefe, OACSI.
2. (S) The purpose of the meeting, which was requested by BG Rapmund, was to
allow him to meet Dr. Vorona and to discuss the issue of human use and the need
for a DoD research and development effort in the GRILL FLAME area.
a. (S) HUMAN USE: BG Rapmund discussed the necessity to understand and
differentiate between occupational health risk (as categorized by work done
by intelligence analysts or air traffic controllers) and research risk (as
categorized by individuals involved as subjects in research projects). He
carefully explained that INSCOM's current GRILL FLAME effort fell into the
occupational health risk area, and therefore, was not considered to be human
use or experimentation. BG Rapmund continued by stating that the two areas-
that INSCOM had proposed for future study (voice analysis and physiological
monitoring) also appeared to fall within the occupational health category.
BG Rapmund continued that the intelligence community should be cautious not
to unwittingly fall into the area of research which would cause that effort
to be bound by the human use restrictions.
b. RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT: BG Rapmund stated that as long as the Perry
letter (Incl 1) remained as DoD policy, R&D funds could not be spent in the
field of parapsychology. However, in his opinion there was a need to begin a
serious effort in this field. Dr. Vorona agreed, and solicited BG Rapmund's
assistance in getting the Perry letter rescinded and initiating an R&D effort.
3. (U) Other topics of general interest to both BG Rapmund and Dr. Vorona
were also discussed. Dr. Vorona and BG Rapmund agreed to meet again in the
September/October 1981 time frame.
1 Incl ROBERT J. JACHIM
As stated LTC, GS
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