SUMMARY REMOTE VIEWING SESSION CC41

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• Publication Date: December 23, 1979
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GRILL FLAME
SESSION REPORT
CLASSIFIED BY: Director, DIA
DECLASSIFY ON: 31 Dec 99
EXTENDED BY: Director, DIA
REASON: 2-301-C (3) (6)
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC41
1. (S) This report documents a Remote Viewing (RV) session
conducted in compliance with a request from SOD, J3, OJCS,
Pentagon, Washington, D.C. The purpose of the session was
to provide information relevant to the hostage situation in
the B.S. Embassy compound in Teheran, Iran.
2. (S) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are
provided as raw intelligence data and as such have not been
subjected to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation.
Interpretation and use of the information provided is the
responsibility of the requester.
3. (S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the
document, Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing
Protocol:(S), undated.
4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions
during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made
by the remote viewer reference his impressions of the-target
site. At TAB B is target cueing: information provided the
remote viewer.
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REMOTE VIEWING SESSION CC41
#66 This will be a remote viewing session (edited for
security).
For the past few minutes now, you have been studying
a photograph of an individual. Relax and concentrate
now. Relax and concentrate. Focus your attention
on this individual. Locate this individual. Relax
and concentrate . Concentrate on the area. Focus your
attention. Relax and concentrate. Relax and
concentrate and describe the area to me.
PAUSE
#31 Feeling of (mumbling) he's..uh..fair, gray, kind of
(mumbling) room..uh..sitting in a chair slumped forward.
It's a small room.- Looks like a bed, something long..
rectangular across this narrow room. I wanted to say
something funny in the corner of the room...uh..room
is like..uh..gray poured concrete, cold. There is a
Arecessed square hole in the corner. Reminded of a
1uncurtained shower stall or a French crapper in the
corner . The..uh..(mumbling) I think..uh..vertically..
barred window..and.a..uh..wooden door that has..uh..
a few bars on it..vertical lines on this..on the left
side..I felt-the left side of the room. . .either the
door or the hall-is vertical lines...I felt he was
sitting at a..a small table on his left. Let me..uh..
clear-and see what else I get.
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#66 Determine now whether or not he is alone.
#31 Yes. Don't perceive anyone else with him in the
cubicle.
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#31 Feeling ...uh...hall ...looking at a..uh..through
bars.
#31 There are bars all of them down the hall, and
(mumbling) on both sides, I feel..uh.vpenness.. I don't
feel the usual closed inness..uh..regular structure.
Feel more open... movement of air... light...I feel
that, right outside this place is a upstair case .....
but it's wood, I think When I looked at it it reminded
me of a ship's hold, but the staircase is wide. I feel
it's darker and damper than other places I've been.
It seems cooler. His...his table is just a little wooden
thing and I ...his door has some...uh...little window
(mumbling) about..uh..two feet by one fdot. Has a little
shelf on the bottom of it. He seems to be in that cell
alone.
#6.6 Are there other personnel in the area?
#31 Yes.
#66 Tell me about them.
#31 1 think I'll go to the cell on the right. I would
say..uh..we have here two people sleeping. I feel the
place is occupied. I feel..uh..people under the
covers on two beds. I have the feeling..uh..two beds
on the wall. Like..uh..metal bunks on the same wall.
as the other place..uh..metal (mumbling)..at first
I thought', pull down, but no, they're rounded metal
frame. Very plain inside. Figuration same as other
place.
#66 Not audible.
#31 It is dark. I can feel a light comes in, up high...
on the outside wall ...keep seeing a small window with
a vertical bar but the..uh..lighting...I don't feel
any lighting inside. Maybe in the hall but not in
the booths.
#66 Not audible.
#31 That's it.
#66 Not audible
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 #31 Ok. This is number one. It's as though I'm
looking.-you're looking down from the ceiling
of a place...I was...I was just too hyped up for
this one...I don't know.
#66 How do you think you did?
#31 Well, I think this was OK. It... just that it
took me a long time.... usually I take that time
ahead of time, you know, and this time I was
limited to about 10 or 15 minutes.
This is a table. Ok. Upper side of one is a bed.
#66 This is looking down into the room.
#31 Yes. Right. I had a gut feeling the guy was
definitely in a cell, cell. First time I had
anything out of this turn out to be a cell type
cell. Bare, gray, concrete room, window up high
on the back wall on the right...iron bars on it..
on the window...and a bed on one side of the
window....the room.....the opposite side. That
ain't a bad perspective. I must have been looking
down that room to see (mumbling) in order to do this
good. Ok. And here...a chair or something... that's
the top of the chair, ok...and, then, there's the
top.of his head ...you can see the back of his head...
shoulder... but, he's like leaning over...like he's
tired of leaning. forward on his hands..- raa-r4-"sleep
I described it as being like a French crapper or AI
..uh..uncovered shower stall. It's just anj
toilet or a recess. Now-; I-don't know it's a
shower built up or if it's a recessed pit that you
step down into. Ok. Do you follow what I mean?
#66 Yes.
#31 Ok. And when I thought of a French commode ...French
classic commode...like you'd French colonial, you
know-not French civilized.. French colonial. When I
thought of that, I did not see, but when I thought of
it to get the thing across, to get the thing across
I will put the two footsteps on it, ok. That's the
feeling I had. Like it was either an unclosed..un-
inclosed shower stall or just a French crapper in the
corner. OK. And a door off-set here, ok. Door has
a window on the upper half with some sort of a little
metal shelf in it. Now this whole end of the. . .opposite
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the bottom and the right ends of this sketch is...
I had the feeling of solid concrete, but, on the
front face of this thing, the left side of sketch
number one, I had the feeling that that faced the
hall and that was barred. It was essentially open;
there was freeness there. I could ...it didn't
seem like other places where I'd been, you know,
wall was a wall...there was a door and a wall and
that was it. This seemed for a change to be much
more open. With vertical lines there....ok....
as though it was.... bars, you know, bars on .....
Ok. There's a hallway out here and here on the
right is the window. OK. This is man sitting
on stool or chair, here. And, then when I got
him...when I acquired the imagery of this guy I
was right...I was like sitting on the table top
and I just floated right up to the ceiling. I
never did get back down until I got outside the
cell. But, I just went like-right to the top.
And was looking at it all from above. And then
I went outside the cell. But, I never got down to
get a good look at him. All right. I'll write
down three cement.... three concrete walls...and,
then the front is....(mumbling) did I have that.
PAUSE
#31 He's sitting there. This room is much smaller.
than that, dam it. I'll draw him to perspective.
.....like that .... ok...... and the back here is
funny something area in the back corner..... like
that..... that's it....-bed on one side....that's
the whole dam schmeil(phonetic).... and-this whole
thing is how I saw.it. Ok. I didn't get the idea
necessarily of any ..... I just got the idea the guy
couldn't sleep. It was more that type of a feeling.
You know. Not like he was being tortured or was
being forced to stay up so much as he was just
staying up. Didn't get any feeling of going anywhere
...waiting for ...you know what I mean.....
Sketch one is much more closely perspective ...size
in my feelings than two. Two makes it look longer
and the bed looks smaller and everything.....that
makes it look larger....not very....all right that's
two.
Three was as though I had moved to the left of two.
'Cause here are...there is his door, OK...see
that...and...only two or three bars on that side
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...see that.. .door has window in it.
#66 Ok. So...Do we have somewhat of a..as though it
were a conventional door but in a wall of bars?
#31 Yes. Yes. That's like a wall there, and here's
the wall from a neighboring cell, right here in
the foreground, and then, of course, would be
more of these things coming along like this......
Like that. Here is a wall here, and there's a
wall back here. Like that. All right...and,
there's the ceiling for that wall, right there,
and here's the ceiling for this wall right there,
like that. Ok. What am I trying to get across
on this one? That the stairwell was right outside
his door, and it goes down. I had the feeling
that there were bars all up and down this hall.
Uh..there's some sort of a stairs or steps and I
felt that they were wooden and that they were sort
of outside of his cell. Um..
#66 Are you saying that this stairway went down? Can
I infer from that that this is on an upper level.
#31 No. It went up. I didn't see a down stairway. The
stairway I saw was an up stairway.
#66 So I would go up the stairs (mumbling) In the past
your descriptions, during the session, during the
drawing have been frequently different from stair-
ways here,. I'm sure that you draw what you see
but your verb descriptions have been different.
You say "up" and then later you say "down"..sometimes
you say "up" and later you draw."down."
#31 No. This is a stairwell going up. It's not that
I'm up looking down a stairwell. I'm sure of this.
Don't...I'm sure of this-and this is the under side
of the stairwell...if you can dig it. See, you're
looking at it from the back end, is what I'm trying
to say. The way to get up is on the other side of
this thing. You walk up towards.me. It's drawn
backwards, but, that's the only way I can draw it.
Maybe this will clarify it. There's nothing in under
it. There's nothing in under it and it goes on up.
You know, to the ceiling. They should be getting
bigger as they come towards me. There like that.
It's all screwed up. I'm trying to draw the underside
of a staircase that comes back over my head...is what
I'm trying to do.
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staircase rise up over my head......
#31 Right. Because that's where I was standing
...you see...I was standing near and under it
when I was out at point number two. I was looking
into point number two and the stairwell took off
from my right and went up over my head. These
wooden steps-and they went up over my head.
#66 Not audible.
#31 Right, right, right, from being underneath them.
That's the first time I saw them. Then I turned
around when 1 got down to the next place. I had
the feeling that on this side.... equally.... was
open and then I felt this linear type feeling all
the way down, ok.
#66 As though we might have bars on both sides.
#31 Right, right. All right. That's three. The-the
next room down...I think was occupied by two people.
I think they were both in bed. Both sleeping, anyway.
I had them sleeping on a set of bunk beds on the
right side .... left side of the room that were...I
worked on this for awhile...
#66 I was hoping we would be getting you later to work
on the people.
#31 Yeah. I tried, but.....yeah, I know. I tried that
but I popped out of it. Once you pop out of it
it's no good.
Essentially, their layout was the same...that was
the next one by....the next one down to the left.
#66 Could you tell me anything at all about the people
that you perceived sleeping?
#31 Well, I thougbt that the guy on top had a beard.
I would hesitate to even say that they were our
people. I had the feeling of, you know, rumpled
clothes, rumpled bed clothes, type stuff. But not
like this. This.. .where he was... it was almost like
nobody had even slept in the bed, you know. You
know.
#66 You made a statement a few minutes ago that you would
hesitate to say that they were even our people. Am
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#31 That there's just two people there. I can't
tell you who they are.
#66 All right. It's not to say that you have
information that they are not our people.
#31 I just did not get in...into..to focus on them.
You know. That type of thing. I just had the
feeling of two sleeping forms and a bunk style
arrangements...top guy has a beard.. .and that's
about all I can say. That's all I can do #66.
If I do anymore it will be garbage.
#66 Ok. Is there anything you want to add?
Anything about the session.
#31 No. But it definitely had a totally different
character than any other of the preceding sessions
that I've had.
Different atmosphere... different type of a place..
is the definite feeling I had. Either my earlier
ones could be wrong or they could be moved-or
something like that. But, before it always been
almost dam dormitory style. You know. Two to
three people to a room..ad hoc..closed off rooms
in some buildings that really used for something
' else. Make shift type stuff. The feeling of this
was that it was straight incarceration place. That
41 it was. designed for that, and the guy was in that.
It's not like he was stuck in a room somewhere,
that was actually a library and that they just close
the door and made him stay in there. This was like
this guy was behind?f~as:__'.Me vas beir~t~-kit in a
place-"designed for security and to keep him there.
A , I have not run into one like that yet. This
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feeling
is he first one. We've had .....I've had.t
.of be ..: con d: had
feeling of controlled movement. Pve had other type
things. Idle time... going nuts.....you know.....that
type of thing.....you know-humming themselves to
sleep at night.. .just because there's no challenge
..there's nothing to do, right. But, this is
.efinitely austere, drab, gray cement cool, musty,
almost, dampish, basement room that is des' with
bars on it. That's designed to keep people there.
In ...you know.....infinitim ...very, very austere.
you know .................that's about it ........
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1. (s) The viewer has been exposed to open source news aec.iie irnf orcmation
as well as classified overhead ire ac ery. lie knew hr would be workinq
against the hostage situation in Ira. i.
2. (S) At the tint of the session, the viewer was told he would be trying
to locate a certain individual. The viewer was shown the attached photograph
and asked to locate and describe the surroundings of the individual in the
photo.
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