CENTER LANE INTERVIEW SUMMARY - CL-957/8204/01

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• Publication Date: November 2, 1982
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CENTER LANE INTERVIEW SUMMARY
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SUBJECT: CL-93.6/8204/01
P. A On 020900Nov 82, Source #01 was interviewed by #66 in an attempt
to obtain information relevant to a building in a photograph identified
as Annex. The project 8204 sponsor had provided a photograph of the
building in question as well as a map showing its relative location.
This photograph and map (see INCL 1) were used as cuing in an attempt
to allow Source #01 to focus his attention on the designated area.
Previous attempts had been made to obtain information about this building.
(see report #925 & #926) These attempts were unsuccessfull due to faulty
cuing data. These attempts were also confusing to Source #01 because
he had sensed that something was wrong with the cuing (unpublished comments
by #01 on 15 Jun82) He had also addressed the sponsors question in session
#916 without being asked. This could have been "overlay", but still was a
point of confusion for Source #01. For this reason #01 was shown both the
photograph and the map. This provided him with clear cuing devoid the
old doubts and confusions about the project.
2. A transcript of the interview was prepared along with a narrative explanation
of the drawings which #01 provided. (see INCL 2)
3.??A DA Form 341 (Agent Report) was prepared for the sponsor. This report
related the salient points of the interview. Attached as an exhibit to the
report was a copy of #01's drawings and an explanation of the drawings.
(see INCL 3).
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I: 440 This will be a interview with CENTER LANE source 01 for
Project 8204 at 0900 hours 2 Nov 1982. The building in the
photograph I have shown you is perceptible in present time.
S:01 Thick wide steps on the east side. They go up, double glass
doors, small entry, small desk on the right, guard. Entry floor
is the second floor, it's like a basement under that. There's
laundry facilities in the basement, north end, furnace, furnace
area, approximately dead center in the building basement.
Individual storage, cubicle areas, south end. Gate fences or
some kind of chain link fencing. Entry floor, long corridor
down the center. See office areas, northeast corner of building.
Small offices, southeast corner, small offices. See a room with
printing equipment, copying machines, southwest corner, for the
printing area. See stairs in the center of the west side of the
building, about three more floors to the landing, landing on the
fourth floor, attic area. Second floor, third floor, I see
apartments. I'm getting like one room, two room efficiencies.
It's getting like smaller rooms with furniture, residence type
rooms.
Area or individual of highest interest to intelligence services
is perceptible.
S: Second floor on the northwest end of building, sorry it's southwest
end of building. Second floor a little in from center, towards
center. Get a large residence area. Appears to be bedroom,
bath, livingroom, kitchen.
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Activity of interest to intelligence services is perceptible.
S: Just a minute. It's an individual that lives there, he's got
sandy color hair with gray, late 40's, about 5'10m -5'11".
Wears gray suits a lot. He's of interest, particularly conversations
and other people he meets. He's the vice something. That's just
the title he has, it's not his job. He's some kind of a controller.
Something to do with paying money. Seen interest in dialing a
phone. I get a strong suspicion for some kind of monitoring device
in this area and I'm trying to isolate it.
Method of satisfying interest of intelligence services.
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I'll monitor this guy, profile him, identify acquaintances, conversations,
contacts, phone numbers, scheduling, attitudes, his personality.
I just deep getting an image of three wooden objects, vertical,
up and down with a hooks on the top edge, mounted on some kind
of piece of furniture. There's a power cord going to it, but I can't
tell what kind of piece of furniture. Thi S guy's watched all
the time, followed everywhere. He has military contacts that
he uses.
Describe activity now, 0930 Eastern Standard Time, 2 November 82.
See a light on, sitting in an easy chair, reading a paper, smoking
a pipe, feet up on something and crossed. Briefcase on a side
table, opened. Just single low light in the room. Writing
something, just a minute. Writing paper on some kind of
production estimate. It's really not an estimate on production,
it's an estimate on "if" production, "if" or "not" production,
something like that.
At this time, I have no further questions concerning the building
in the photograph I have shown you. However if I have neglected
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S: Great interest in who this guy meets or talks to. But for some
reasons, the people trying to discover that, have their own
problems right now. That's all I'm getting.
All right fine . I would like you now to draw your perceptions
of the building in the photograph I've shown you and explain
your drawings to me.
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DRAWING EXPLANATION
As I have requested, you've drawn some pictures of the
building as you see it. Can you explain these pictures to you?
S: _Yea';- Page #1 is the basement area and on one end is the storage
area. And than center, center south is the up and down staircase,
and than a furance area, and what I call a laundry area. And then
I wrote in a printing or press area, cause they got copying
machines and that sort of thing. But that may be on the first
floor of the entry floor in place of one of the things I called
an apartment, smaller apartment.
Seems to me that during the interview, you didn't mention the
printing concept in the basement.
S: No, I'm not really sure where I saw it. So, you know it's
on one of the other floors.
S: Page #2 is the first floor of the entry floor, which is some
wide concrete steps and recessed entryway which is double glass
doors, desk on the right with a guard. He's sort like a guy
who checks to make sure people who live there come in. Big
open foyer area with the up and down staircase in the center
south side. I get smaller apartments with shared bathrooms
on either end of the corridor, you know, there the kind of
bathrooms that you've got to go out of your apartment to go
down and use the bathroom. And these are just small apartments
you know like single individual apartments.
S: Page #3 which is the targeted floor or what I feel is the targeted
floor are four very large apartments with private baths, and one
bedroom and then like a living area, a kitchenette type area.
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S: And the targeted apartment being in the southwest corner,
where I label that mi
S: And then, Page #4 is a drawing of the piece of furniture, it's
like a section of a piece of furniture with three design vertical
pieces that go up the side with an electric cord running off the
flat top. I always had an impression that this was some kind
of listening element or device or something. And that's it.
I! Okay fine, thank you very much.
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AGENT REPORT
For use of this form, see FM 30-17(C); AR 381-130;
I. NAME OF SUBJECT OR TtftE OF INCIDENT
Annex Building
this proponent agency is the Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence.
2. DATE SUBMITTED
5 November 1982
3. CONTROL SYMBOL OR FILE NUMBER
CL-957/8204/01
I. REPORT OF FINDINGS
On 2 November 1982, Source CL-01 was interviewed concerning the annex building.
Source stated substantially as follows:
The building had wide steps on the east side. The steps went up to doUble glass
doors. There was a small entry and inside was a small desk on the right side with a
guard. The entry floor was the second floor and there was a. basement under that.
In the basement there were laundry facilities on the north end. Located in the
center of the basement was a furnace area. At the south end of the basement were
individual storage, cubical areas.
On the entry floor were office areas. There may also have been a room with
printing equipment, copying machines on this floor.
The other floors in the building were apartments. They were One or two room
efficiencies. They were smaller rooms with-furniture,rasidencetype rooms.
On the second floorpon the southwest end of the building, a little in towards
the center of the building was a large residence area. The individual who lived there
was of interest to intelligence services. He had sandy color hair with gray. He was
in his late 40's. He was 5'10" - 5111" tall. He wore gray suits a lot. He had a
job title of vice something (not further identified). He was some kind of controller
(not further identified). He had something to do with paying money. Intelligence
services were particularly interested in his conversations and other people he met.
His activities were suspected of being monitored by a device on a piece of furniture.
This individual was watched at all times, and followed everywhere. He had military
contacts that he used.
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Attached hereto is EXHIBIT 1, containing drawings and drawing explanation provided
by Source reference his knowledge.of the area described above.
No further amplifying information was obtained from source during this interview.
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EXHIBIT I
DRAWINGS AND DRAWING EXPLANATION
ANNEX BUILDING
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DRAWING EXPLANATION
Page #1 is the basement area. On one end was the storage area. Then
center, center south was the up and down staircase, then a furnace area,
and a laundry area. There was a printing or press area, because they
had copyilimachinesand/or that type equipment. The printing area may
have been -he first floor to" the entry floor in place of one of the areas
called an apartment.
Page #2 is the first floor, the entry floor, which had some wide concrete
steps and a recessed entryway which was double glass doors. On the right
there was a desk with a guard, who appeared to be a guy who checked to make
sure only people who lived there came in. There was a big open foyer area
with an up and down staircase in the center south side. There were
apartments with shared bathrooms on either end of the corridor; they were
the kind of bathrooms that one has got to go out of one's apartment to
go down and use the bathroom. And these were just small apartments like
single individual apartments.
Page #3 depicts what Source felt was the targeted floor. There were four
very large apartments with private baths, one bedroom and then like a
living area and a kitchenette type area. Source labeled the targeted
apartment as having been in the southwest corner (label SW).
Page #4 is Source's drawing of a piece of furniture. Source described it as
"like a section of a piece of furniture with three design vertical pieces
that go up the side with an electric cord running off the flat top."
Source had an impression that this was some kind of listening device or
something.
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