TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING SESSION 833

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REMOTE VIEWING SESSION 833
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0950 #72: This will be a remote viewing session for
11 December 1981 with a start time of 0950 hours
It is now 0950 hours. Our target for today is
the man whose photograph you have been shown.
Concentrate, bond.orittdtd on the man in the
photograph and tell me where he is now.
PAUSE
#07: I'm having a little trouble, but I got a
I seem to be sitting on bench in a park like
itu44warm. There's a man standing about
40 or 50 feet away. He seems to be about 5 11
and he's got his back to me. I don't think this
is the man. He has on a white, long sleeved,
leisure jacket, unlined. Must be warm. I'll
try to get closer.
PAUSE
#72: Concentrate on the man in the photo the man in
the photo. Where is the man in the photo?
#07: Well, he's got to be right here becavog that's
where I right here in this he's here
in this park. It's early morning. Time to kill.
He's sitting here (mumble) is tro-, tro-,
tropical. There's a Palm tree over there.(11210;Sitiq
irUST; coming up top of that mountain over there
is OK (phonetic) Must see some of
it along the West coast of the United States
along the line where the sun is just coming up.
Man is sitting on a,bench. I'm looking at the man
who's standing ontecurb. It's quiet and lazy.
Palm tree, it's somewhere Southwest of the
United States or further South. There's nothing
going on. Guy's just sitting here. Do you want
me to get closer to him?
#72: Concentrate on the man on the bench. Look around
the park. Tell me what you see.
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#07: Okay. I'm on a bench about 20 feet away from
him. He's sitting just off of a little cement
walkway, cement walkway leading to the curb.
Street 177,ffS he parknd seems to be some kind of
a hub of streets. Streets go different ways from
here. Facing to the Southwest there's commercial
buildings on the other side of the street. I
see one, two most of them are two, two to
three stories high. There's Palm trees with some
of the old leaves trimmed off and creating that
fish scale patternalpAwithe top. Off to my right
I'm aware of aisteep hill with no buildings
on each side too steep. There's a, there's
a, I guess it's commo towers, or something,
on the top of the very steep hill.
I feel the just a minute
Good size city. I felt there was a large body of
water on the other side of the mountain that I
see ahead of me. That could be overlay from my
my feeling that I'm along the sun up
line. There are very few people on the street.
Except this man in front of ktemstanding4pere
with his hands in his pocket as thoughYbafaiting
transportation. There's some kind of little
+10 ....I don't know....phone booth or kiosk or
right near the man standing. 13AcIA behind the
benches, a thing that reminds me
gazebo thing thing with a band, band plays Sunday.
#72: All right. I want you to come back to the park.
Today is 11 December _1981. I now want you to
rise to a height above the park, look out over
the city, and what is the item most of interest,
most of interest.
#07: I have him where I. am. I don't see any great
interest, but a range of hills.To the
West is a thrust of a high ground....c$NOW the
city from the North...which has very few man-made
features on it. It kind of makes the city split
+18 into two channels running up_two natural valleys
through the North. I have a very strong $mewril4.1))011
that there's a large body of water ......I guess
it's East or Southeast, but I just can't see it.
#72: All right. Okay. Now we come back to the park.
#07: Okay.
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#72: ....next to the man on the bench. Ask the man
on the bench what is he doing in the park?
Why is he there?
#07:
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3r 'i communicating with him. All kinds
of unimportant bull running through his head....
bored, but he's waiting. Definitely waiting
for a certain period during the day he's supposed
to be here in case someone want's to contact him
about something. He thought it might be the guy
in the leisure suit standing on the curb. The guy
in the leifure suit across the street. The guy
ki
in-fkont o me settled back into passive boredom.
Doesn't seem to be anything of great interest on
his mind unless I can stir him up. I'm going to .
communicate one more time.
PAUSE
#07: I'm sorry, but all I get is the guy is very
cocky, very proud of himself. I can't I can't
get through this two-faced facade.A.42,
#72: That's all right. Relax, concentrate on the man
in the photo, concentrate on the man in the photo.
I want you to go forward in time to 17 December 1981.
Go forward in time to 17 December 1981, and tell
me where will the man in the photo be?
PAUSE
#07: (Mumble)....I'll try and get deeper. I'm out
doors....hard- wood trees, no leaves,_dark, cold
dull feeling. People with dark, heavy coats. I
saw someone standing outside as though he were
addressing people, but I just tried to get in a
crowd, but I couldn't find the crowd. I felt as
though I was standing in a crowd and looking at
someone preaching to me about something. I
anticipated I would see our man in the crowd. When
I didn't see him on the....talking. And, the
three or four, five people behind me when I
thought he would be near me. I don't see him.
I also saw water running over like a step about
a foot high. I fe hL via identifier as to
location, but I I found
myself looking up at an overhand, like I would
looking up under a pier but it didn't fit the
rest of the scene. I didn't know what to make of
it. I'm going to try and cool down further and
pin the guy down on the 17th.
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#72: Concentrate on the man in the photograph.
Turn around and look behind you. Look for
the man in the photograph.
PAUSE
+34 #07: Okay. I got him. He's over to my left
???? ? ..stomping on a cigarette...standing
near ....he's standing near a tall...black
guy Oh! No'
I just got a scene that...may make it difficult
for me to work this. I don't know how to
handle it.
#72: Just tell mc about it.
#07: Well, all of a sudden I thought I was in
Washington, D.C. and a_tremendous surge of
plain old logic just overwhelmed me.
#72: Just tell me about it.
#07: It just occurred to me when I saw wrought iron
fence that I was in Washington, D.C. in the
vicinity of the White House and working the
problem that's been in the news earlier in the
week some time....and, just all of a sudden
I.. ..... logic overlay hit me, and I'm not sure
that I can sift it from here on.
#72: All right. I want you to relax. Come back to
11 December 1981.
#07: I'm in the park.
#72: Okay. Now, I want you to go back in time to
10 December, 10 December, 1000 hours, 10 December.
Find the man in the photograph, find the man in
the photograph and tell me where he is.
PAUSE
+38 #07: I have him inside of a big room like a hotel
lobby...high ceiling. People that are paying
no attention to each other.
#72: Describe, for me, the hotel.
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#07: It seems to be I tried to go outside
....what I see is_facade of older structures.
Not very impressive. Could be 40s or older.
I think 40s or older. Inside...masonry and
10--6,kr6" ceiling with shaped like square columns vEg
built into the walls....kind of_fancy stuff.P.'
join the ceiling tan. Cover the door
there's mahogany check in counter on the left.
There's a few padded chairs around dim
light. I'm getting brocade, maroon or red
on some of the ones ....j??uk of the room.
Seems to be a center areg7round it and there's
three people sitting at that ...like some kind
of statuary or something with kind of cluster
of seats with their_back to the decorative thing
in the middle. Elevators on the right. Elevators,
That building isn't that tall. It don't need
elevators. Access upstairs is on the tight.
#72: I want you to go out the front door of the hotel
and walk down the street, and describe for me
what do you see.
PAUSE
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#07: Okay..,I just see....turn right...across the
corner is a lot of trees. I thought at first
it was a park, but from here it doesn't look like
where .I was before. There's a statue behind the
trees... Street lamp seems to be the old fashioned
+43 kind. It has upright, transluscentebriir-4?
shape on a fluted post. tosof Wireg
#72: I want you to wait and hold that scene, hold the
scene, and I will turn over the tape. Relax, and
wait, hold the scene while I turn over the tape.
(TAPE TURNED OVER)
#72: All right. You were walking down the street
under the old fashioned lamps, you were describing
the light. I want you to relax, concentrate,
continue down the street.
PAUSE
+45 #07: Standing here, looking around and saw advertisement
of some kind of erttcrtairmerit.. Looked like some
kind of nightclub. There's a girl with extremely
long eyelashes, high che ones, and a headdress
that looked like it was , some kind of ancient
people primarily green. There's a nightclub..
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#07: ...Bect'VT here, got a show featuring this girl.
#72: All right. That's very good. I want you to
continue down the street until.you come to an
intersection. Tell me when you come to an
intersection.
#07: Well, I don't know however I went, but I'm seeing
a big intersection that got some kind of fancy.
fountain in the center ...rather large, a lot of
granite....walk up steps into center of this
circle there's a fountain up there, and this is
the center of the intersection ....and the traffic
moves around it Just several blocks to the
right, as you come out the door to the hotel,
several blocks to the right.
#72: Okay. That's good. That's fine. As you look
down the street, the intersecting street, what
do you see?
#07: I see one street leading off of this in line with
the...some kind of a big, impressive structure
+49 right in line at the end of this...(mumble) This
street reminds me uo,,ftt_parade street between is
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early....fountain-'i
(phonetic). Several thousand
yards, straight down, a big, broad avenue. P414-6-44-e--
/Vomiii-t5 structure which has steps like it's a...like, it's
a building of State or something.
#72: All right. That's fine. That's fine.. When you
+51 look the other way down the large street, away
from the building, what do you see?
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#07: I don't feel like I'm standing at the intersection
looking, but the only thing I can see is some hills
and water, but I don't feel like I'm standing looking
down the street from-that intersection. I'm going
to try again. I assume that the hotel was down
that street, on my left, initially. I'm not sure
+52 now.
#72: All right. 1 want you to go back to the hotel now,
walk down the street, back to the hotel.
#07: It's dirtier down here near the hotel. Paper in
the street. I'm at the hotel.
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#72: Okay. I want you to go to the top of the
hotel, top of the hotel and tell me what you
see. Put your back to the entrance of the
hotel, and look out, and tell me what you see.
+55 #07: There's some kind of thing nearby to my right
with peaks, some kind of elaborate church but,
I'm not getting anything of interest beyond
that. Just haze.
#72: All right. Look directly through the haze. You
can see through the haze. Look again, and tell
me what you see.
#07: Okay. I don't understand it, and I don't believe
this. I got a partial hole in the haze on two
occasions, and I saw some kind of tall, very
tall, white structured...like some kind of
gigantic monument or something. Everytime I
saw it, I shut off, and I draw a blank. Felt
almost as though I wasn't in a tropical city.
(Mumble). I don't know where I was seeing
through the haze, and still in the city or,....
somewhere else in the world. Kind of symbolic.
#72: Now, I would like you to turn around so that
you're now over the entrance way to the hotel;
+57 and look the other way. Look in the same
direction as the entrance to the hotel, and tell
me what you see.
#07: Oh, kind of steep, green hill over there
I don't see anything to indicate it, but I feel
I'm looking leftly (phonetic)...northwest, I
guess. See green, steep...volcanic, I guess, steep
hill, behind, behind the buildings of the city,
of course.
#72: I would like you now to relax, relax and
concentrate, concentrate on the man in the photo,
the man in the photograph. Why is this person of
interest to the US Intelligence.
+58 #07 I'm still trying to find him. Hes not at the park.
I don't know. I don't know.
#72: All right. I now want you to relax, relax and
return to this room. I want you to relax, stretch
your legs and return to this room, 11 December 1981.
I'm going to turn the tape off.
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#72: Okay, we've had a break in time, a chance to
relax, and we now have some drawings that we
want to talk about. The first one will be
drawing number 1.
#07: Drawing number 1. Okay. 1K1s., is the best I
can do of a poster that I saw about one block
from the hotel. When you come out the front
door from the-hotel, you turn right for one block,
and I saw this in the vicinity of that corner.
In that neighborhood is a nightclub that has a
show that.has a young lady, that is dressed somewhat
like this. I don't know. I felt it was a ancient
type of headdress-. It had some kind of stones
or something green...inlaid into the crown of
this_helmet. She had very high cheekbones, and she
had very long eyelashes. And, I thought she looked
somewhat like...aestic (phonetic) Goddessor something.
That kind of dress. That may have been overlay.
that was the feeling I got from the high cheek-
bones, and the kind of headdress she was wearing.
She had some kind of writing on it, as I've
indicated here in the lower left corner. I made
an attempt to read it, and I couldn't. I thought
the significant thing was this was showing in the
vicinity of the hotel, the nightclub.
#72: Okay. Let's go to number 2.
#07: Number 2 is where I tried to give an idea of
the overall shape of the little park that was in
the center of a intersection with raised tiers
with vegetation and steps so that you could walk
into this walled-off circular_area, and there was
a big fountain that stuck above that in the center.
This was at the intersection of some very broad
avenues. One of which runs some distance at a
very straight line with beautiful trees on each side,
and it went to a rather large_building that had
steps that faced...like the avenue appeared to
stop at this building. It may have spread to both
sides, but I couldn't see that from where I was.
I believe this is the time I ..:.441.turnod around
and I tried to look back in the opposite direction,
and I don't remember getting much there. Except,
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#07: ...I thought that the hotel was straight
opposite this real broad...the prettiest .
avenue. I don't.remember getting much detail
on the other two. There was at least two others
that were broad in nature, leading up on this center,
central park, if you will.
Number 3. Number 3 is of the time that I was
standing on the top of the hotel and looking
in a direction_opposite the front door. This
is rather unusual here in that up until this .
moment I felt there was blue skies, balmy ...
really beautiful and as quick as I was
told to look opposite the door I drew a blank.
Everything went hazy. I found myself toying .
with I wanted to see, or I didn't want to see
or what's happening here, and when I tried harder, it
was just like a hole opened and smoke or clouds
and I saw the shape that I have indicated here.
I wondered about overlay, because I felt I was in
a tropical city. I felt that what I saw did not
represent a tropical city, and I couldn't handle
it. At this point, I felt I was overwhelmed .
with overlay, and I wanted to back out of it, and
just stopped. I believe we did.
#72: Yes. Not too far from there. The church that
was also described.
#07: When I was facing in the direction opposite
the door, off to my right, within_a block, was
a very tall, old style masonry church which I
thought was Spanish in style. It had several
very sharp spires with little projections off
of them. Closeups I've seen of other churches
show little gurgoils-(phonetic) sticking up
from them. I started getting detail on the church,
but it seemed so much like many, many other churces
I've seen like that that I gave up on it. But there
were many spires, within a block to the West, I
think of the hotel, and in the same block.
#72: Okay. Waive considered the hotel, but it's not
descript.'
#07: Yes. It was narrow. I felt the lobby was about
the width of the hotel. I think there was
enough extra width to the lobby to allow for
stairs and.possibly elevator. Maintenance type.
That's about it. The hotel was adjacent to.
other building. It had a common wall with at
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#72:
least two other buildings on each side.
Okay. I think that's all we have for now.
I think we'll turn it off and terminate
the sessdon.
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