TRANSCRIPT SESSION NUMBER 824

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• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
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• Publication Date: November 17, 1981
• Content Type: REPORT

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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION 824
1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request for information.
2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided as
raw intelligence data, and , as such, have not been subjected to any intermediate
analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information
provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in document
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during the
remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing
information provided the remote viewer.
5. (S/NOFORN) Target cueing included a geographic coordinate and a xeroxed
copy of a photograph which was sealed in an envelope.
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#72: This will be a remote viewing session for 17
November 1981. . with a start time of 1000
hours. You will be briefed that this is a new
project and we'll gain access to the target
using coordinates in a sealed envelope provided
to me.
It is now 10 o'clock. Our mission for today
is located at coordinates:
SG1 B
SG1 B
I wish you to go to that location and tell me
when you arrive.
#19.5: Okay.
#72: At this target, I would like you now to go back -
back in time to 1 June 1981. 1 June 1981 at 1230
hours. 1230 hours.
#19.5: Got an impression of a lot of commotion. People
running.
Trying to identify with the . . . the incident
or whatever would make people run and I get a
. impression of being in . . in air and being
slammed to the ground.
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#19.5: There seems to be a . . . . like a lht industrial
area. Possibly some residencies type buildings in
The area.
Large square building on one side. Three floors.
Grey color. Like a factory or . . . No, its not
a factory, its just a large building.
#72: I would like you to go to the ground floor and
go outside the building.
#19.5: I got an impression of a fire or something.
Standing out . . the front. . . like a . .
approach drive. Large, curve drive entry
like area. Flat, open walkway.
#72: I would like you to now go to a perspective of
about 1,000 feet in the air. Tell me when you
land there.
#19.5: Okay, I'm . . . there.
#72: In the sealed envelope is a zeroxed copy of a
photograph which describes the general area. On
the photograph is a smaller circle. Can you
locate the target?
#19.5: I get an impression like its a. . . . from the
entryway to the large building, its . . . . .
facing out from the door, its . . . about a
28 degree angle off the center, to the right.
about a . . about . . 1500 meters perhaps.
#72: I want you to go to that location and describe
what you perceive.
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#19.5: Just a minute.
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Its like a section of ground with bumps in it.
And a . . . "V" shape plate - metal.
There's a. . . I don't know if its a trailer
or a box shag e . . . . Its like elongate ox
ap o-nnected to another box shape. . . in
the form of an off-set "L".
There seems to be a . . like an op. . . road
goes aggressively further into the ground to
a doorway or an entryway.' That's to the left
of the box shapes.
There's an elongated structure over that.
I get steel girders and lights.
PAUSE
Very tall structure. Steel girders and lights.
PAUSE
#72: Reach out and touch the building.
#19.5: That would be those box shapes. Hard concrete,
very thick.
PAUSE
Its like a nodual form or something on it.
PAUSE
There seems to be a lot of pumping equipment
for some reason. Getting a dome shape - a lot
of pumping equipment.
Pipes.
There's a nodual feel to this . . . structure,
like a bump, bumpy feel.
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#19.5: The walls are slanted. No windows.
Get a real messy feeling about this area.
I'm trying to . . . . I had some kind of
feeling since the start of the session like
it was a . . . it must be some kind of a
disaster. Fire or something.
PAUSE
#72: Do you perceive any people in this building?
PAUSE
#19.5: Yes, but they're... they're not moving.
They're like bodies.
I don't know if that's overlay or not, 'cause
I keep thinking this is a disaster type . . .
of area.
Getting an impression for enormous heat for
some reason.
I see. . . things burned, but not burned.
I don't know how. . .can't get that out
of my head. I see people on. the periphial
trying to get to the building but they can't.
It's like there's an invisible . ..cordoned
off area.
People are wearing white suits, Some kind of
jump suit type avra~rr. Almost li e a fire suit.
I can't seem to shake this . . . this disaster
type feeling about the target.
I see heavy metal doors in this building. Moving
around inside the building I see catwalks andheavy
metal doors. Looks like twin tanks of some kind.
Like poured concrete, steel reinforced tanks of
water.
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#72: Why don't you go through one of the doors
and tell me what you perceive.
#19.5: I see . .. see Lab area. See a dust-free room.
Its all tile. Things-en ng move aroun w
machines. Manufacturein something. Very dangerous
#72: Come out of the room and go to the ground floor
which is above the tunnel leading down.
#19.5: Okay.
#72: And what is the description of that area.
#19.5: Its...
This would be a coordination point. Things are
packaged here. It's like a temporary holding
point. I see like pallets with. metal objects
stacked. They have yellow bands. Painted yellow
bands with inset screws with red inserts. There's
a special key operated screw - it doesn't have
the single slot, it's got like the hexagonal type
key that's gotta fit. It's like a holding . . . .
place for whatever these are.
#72: Describe for me what is on the pallet.
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#19.5: Just a second.
PAUSE
They . . . They're rounded shapes. They're like
. . like the size of . . . just a minute. Getting
a lot of overlay. I keep wanting to turn these things
into warheads but I'm not sure.
They're . . They're not unlike that shape. they're
about 15 inches across diameter wise perhaps 2 feet
long. Apparently stacked. I see
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"V" impression. . . like a . . . . . inverted,
interconnected "X" which I can't describe, but
. . It kind of folds over to one side.
Its seems to be some kind of artillery round
or something - artillery shell. That's possibly
overlay.
Okay, I want you to leave this area. And now,
go up in the building. . . go up in the building,
one floor and tell me what you perceive.
PAUSE
Must be a lot of talking or yelling. Many people
. . . . . with . . . . papers moving. . here and
there. Probably some kind of en iineerin; area.
Drafting type e ui ment. Light machines, refine
mac Ines. ere they do mock-up type work.
Sign type work.
#19.5: Big bay. I don't get any multiple rooms. Very
large bay type area.
#72: Okay, I'd like you to move to the next floor
and tell me what you perceive.
#19.5: This is split into a two part area. You know,
like a front area that's . . . administrative,
secretarial type workers. . . open area, some
smaller, cubical type areas. I have a control
area- its got a ward. Couple guards as a matter
of fact;-CF y re controlling a door to a hallway.
#72: Why don't you go through that door and tell me
what you see.
#19.5: Again, split into two portions. I see . . . .
lab type areas left of hallway. Right side of
hallway appears to be office type areas. Stripped
office areas. They're not plush - they're just
functional. Very . . . .
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#19.5: Its . . . stern, like office areas. There are
no adornments on the walls or . . . Maps on some
walls, but . . . Lab area. Lot of test equip-
ment, electronics.
PAUSE
#72: Are there people in the lab?
PAUSE
#19.5: Very few. Four maximum. Maybe five.
PAUSE
#72: What language do you perceive that they speak?
#19,5: Just a minute.
PAUSE
I get a mix. I got a
PAUSE
Just a minute. . . . . One of the languages is
I get the idea they're all conversing in
a single common language, that b in French. I
pink they're all nnvei i.n in Frnch. But the
ative Ian e here is is Slavic origin.
Two oT e five. . are not Slavic though, they're
from . like, . . . l i k e , I don't know . . . . .
speak a more gutural language - like a harsher.
Possibly a middle-eastern dialect. Common
language spo en is French though.
I just get a strong impression of French, I don't
know why. Its not native language. Its what
they're speaking. Expertise is French.
#72: Are there any females in the group?
#19.5; No impression of females here . . . . at all.
Clearly can say no females in this lab. Had
an impression of females in the office area
but not in the lab.
#72: Okay. I would now like you to rise to the next
floor up and tell me what you perceive.
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19.5: Don't perceive a next floor.
A flash impression of a classroom like area,
but I don't think that's the next floor. I
don't think . . . . . . that I'm getting
another floor.
#72: All right. I would like you to return to
the ground floor . .
#19.5: Okay.
#72: At the end of the tunnel what is between it -
between the tunnel and the area underground?
#19.5: Ce;rr
Get a . . . . . feel like a zig zag affect -
heavy. . . granite block zig zag and then I
get a elevator. I don't get a direct connection
of tunnel to area. I get an elevator to area.
#72: Does the elevator go under the ground across, or
does it go down?
PAUSE
#19.5: Its down perhaps. . .
#72: Why don't you . . .
#19.5: Forty feet. This elevator is huge. Its apparently
got a capacity for . . . . . small vehicles.
PAUSE
#72: Is it longer than wider?
#19.5: No. Its wider. . . .The largest widest. And
then the other two portions in height and width
are about the same. I'm sorry, height and depth
are equal.
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#72: Go down the elevator shaft to the bottom and tell
me what you perceive.
#19.5: See . . . . a. . like a . . ... . . . . . .
ye_,y thick, colony of roof s on..art-_ All the walls
high, 23-25 fee . oo s- I 1 Fe-TM e
e a.?'1 arge undergroun ea l i Ike . . .
affect. s. me feeling. See one section is
some form of assembly area.
See a_tremendous amount of storage to the rear right.
They've-packed in all these pallets. I get an impress-
ion of . . . . Ah, just a minute.
Again,I'm.getting this strange feeling of disaster. .
It-5`". . almost like this is a real severe hazard area.
Let me work on this just a minute.
Sort of like if . . .. . . you strolled through a room
with one-five-five rounds stacked everywhere. It doesn't
hold a candle to the hazard of strolling-through this room.
Something extremely potent about this...... storage area.
I don't. . . . . Its almost like . . . . .this little voice
keeps telling me . . . this is not diluted, this is full
strength. I don't, know how to explain that feeling. A
gut feeling.
I'm. starting to lose this target.
#72: Okay. In this large area . , storage area, what do you.
perceive in this area. What is stored?
#19.5: My first inclination was to say some form of tactical
nuclear -t? weapon, but that's-not true7 -Tr-Ts . more of
`'h~m'ical type pon, Havea . . strong impression of
many tanks, sealed-areas, v_.ult like doors- in this is
a wile ongTomeration li a manufacturing area for some
chemical or biological type weapon.
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#72: Okay. What I would like you to do now is go
bae.k to the elevator and come up to the ground
floor.
#19.5: Okay.
#72: Go out the door towards where the people were
standing looking at the building.
#19.5: Okay.
#72: Look back at the building and what do you
perceive?
#19.5: I perceive this . . . . like an appendage coming
out of the building. It looks like pipes going
off into the ground. It looks like legs holding
this appendage up. Face the building. . . . . .
PAUSE
I'm getting like a flipping action in time.
PAUSE
Its like one second the building's complete and
the next second its under construction or exposed
on one side. I'm getting that steel girder and
like that exposed girder feeling again.
#72: As you are looking at the building, which side
appears to be exposed?
#19.5: Left. Left side.
See something white on the ground too.
Like . . . get the impression there's people
on the left putting the sand on the ground, a
layer of something on the ground.
It went away. I don't know what that was.
#72: As you were standing outside at the face of the
building, turn away from the building and tell
me what you perceive.
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#19.5: An impression of a. light industrial area . .
intermixed with residencies, all deserted. Its
got a ghost town image. I got an impression of
a ghost town,
I don't. know . . . I'm.just . . . I'm losing the
target now.
#72: Okay. One final thing. Rise up above the building
and look behind the building and what do you perceive.
#19,5: It looks like a white half-moon s
with radians
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#72: All right. I want you.now to come back to ground level
away from the building.
#19.5: Yeah.
#72: I want you now to turn to today, at Fort Meade, Maryland
. . . at this present time.
#19.5: Okay.
#72: I want you to relax . . . . relax. . . . start to move
your fingers, start to wiggle your toes. Take a deep
breath.
PAUSE
#19.5: I think we ought to put the tape on hold.
#72: Okay, relax, I'm. going to put the tape on hold and turn
it over.
PAUSE
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#19.5 :
Okay, I'm going to describe
my
drawings
now.
Page 1 is an overhead view.
at the start of the session
I
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got the
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impression
actually
had zeroed in on the target but then was taken
in the air as . just to make sure I got the
target I guess, But I got the feeling I went
back to the same building. This overhead view
is of an access road, tunnel entrance with a
label "A" next to it which corresponds to another
drawing. Somewhere off to the right were trailer
like blocks. The back was an above-ground appendage
standing on legs and it had like two pipes going
off to the side like going into the ground. The
tunnel entrance was faced in concrete and was like
an inverted "V". There's an additional building
there - I don't know what that is. I'm not even
sure its a building. Its just a square tall
structure there.
#19.5: Yeah. Off to the left were other buildings. A
whole bunch of bumps in the ground. . . going
back. They were like knobs formed from dirt.
They were very regular in pattern and they kind
of went off into the distance. Get the feeling
all the rest of the surrounding area was light
industry. . . or industry of some kind.
Page 2 is the impression when I was asked to look
for significant landmarks in the rear of the
building. Its an impression of a half-moon
shape, a pattern. And with the radia going out.
The "X's" signify exposed girders. Now I'm not
sure if this is a destructive or constructive
pattern. You know, it could be when the building
was under construction or what not and the half-
moon could be some form of excavation or something.
#72: Is the half-moon visible from the air, or is it
#19.5: I . . I sense that its visible from the air, but
its possible that that's just a . . an effect
pattern from whatever happened here. If there
was a disaster here this just might be the pattern
of effect and how it radiated out from the build-
ing. Sometimes in remote viewing you get the
pattern of effect but its not visible to the
naked eye.
#72: Okay.
#19.5: That's just a perception.
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#19.5: Page 3 is the entrance to the tunnel on the side
of the large building and how I perceived it.
And the unidentified tall structure to the left.
I get a feeling that this structure also is not
a solid. You know, its like you can see through
parts of it. Or elements of it. I don't know
why I say that - its just a perception. And that
the large building to the right had four floors.
#72: Is there any indication of any sort of ventilation
on something on the roof of that building?
#19.5: No. I'd hesitate to say that. Now.
For some reason, when I look at this I also
get a sense of a great many pumps, pipes, just
this conglomerate of stuff -- but I don't know
where to put it. Its just an impression I get
when I look at this view on Page 3. So there
might be a whole lot of clutter there that I'm
not seeing.
Page 4 is a side cutaway view of . . ground level
versus below level. And it shows the access road
with an arrow going into the tunnel entrance and
then the tunnel goes through like a zig zag pattern
and accesses the elevator from the end. The elevator
goes down a shaft and opens into the underground
storage area. I also show the way the building
appendage comes out of the back and stands on legs
with pipes going into these humps in the ground.
And then the pattern, the cutaway pattern of like
humps going out. I don't know what those humps
are. I get a . . . I'm not . . I couldn't clearly
say if there was another access to this underground
storage from the main building or not. But it seems
reasonable. I just don't know where it is. I
didn't see one.
#72: Okay.
#19.5: Page 5 is a top view of that same area with the
tunnel entrance depicted the way the tunnel zig
zags. Its sort of like a. . protective blast wall
or something, I guess. It zig zags around and
enters the end of the elevator and the elevator
goes up and down in the shaft to the underground
area. And the underground area . . . I believe
I said was in two parts - No. That was a floor
of the building.
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#72: The undergound area . .
#19.5: Is in two parts. One's a storage area and one's
like a light assembly area.
#72: Yeah. Storage to the rear.
#19.5: Yeah. And. . the two pipes going off in the humps
in the ground and the appendage on the back of the
building.
Page 6 is the perspective of what it looks like
facing the area pallet storage in the underground
storage area. This is like the support coloums
are numerous and they're extremely heavy. I get
a feeling of . . I mean really . . really solid
concrete, down here. And the white assembly's
off to one side and then there's like this dark
entryway down at the end and it goes into the
second area and that's where they store all these
pallets.
And then Page 7 is an example of what a load on
the pallet looks like. Then there's these objects
and - I don't even know if there's four to a pallet
there might be more than that or less than that -
but this is the impression I got in my minds eye,
was at the ends of these. . these like modual type
devices and the ends are cut flat and recessed and
the recesses are painted red. Real bright red and
they have hexagonal inserts in the end where there's
some form of hexagon key goes in there. And its
like this is some kind of a safety lock or something.
And then right up the nose from these is a bright
band of yellow. Now the entire device, except
this outer ring, this recessed ring which is silver -
the device is a dark color like a dark brown or
earth color and then these bands of yellow, bright
yellow. And, I don't know what the rest of this
device looks like, you know. I kept wanting to
make it an artillery shell, but I . . it just,
for some reason I don't want to say artillery shell.
I don't know what it is. Some form of fancy can
or something.
#19.5: And that's it for my drawings.
#72: Okay, let's go over a couple of the things that
I've got noted here and see if you can give me
a.couple - some more explanation (not audible).
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#72: How about the dust-free room?
#19.5: Okay, just a . . .
#72: Small scale manufacture.
#19.5: I just got an impression of this area that was
fairly small, very bright, you know like an
excessive amount of lighting.
#19.5: Everybody was wearing hoods with plexiglass
plates. You know, like plastic wrappings on
hands and feet. Its just immaculate area.
And there was small objects on table tops that
were being assembled. They're made of brass
or brass colored type . . metal. And, they've got
a form of coolent type tanks in there, that
sort of thing,Some overhead lifts.
#72: You said it was a dangerous area.
#19.5: Yeah, I felt like this was a crucial area. You
know, like easy place to make a mistake. That's
all I got.
#72: Okay. When you went to . . in the main building
on one of the upper floors you said there was a
. . a guard area.
#19.5: Right. It seemed to be a . . well, the whole
pl. . . I got a feeling like the whole place
was guarded. But I got a feeling like there was
an elite guard to this area. And . . . almost
get like a lecture or classroom feeling to that
area for some reason. . with an associate lab
and some offices.
#72: Okay. The people spoke French as the common
language.
#19.5: Yeah. I get a feeling like perhaps the . . the
actual language would be something like . . I
don't know Russian or Polish or something, some
Slavic language. I got a feeling like that's
the natural language for this area. But then
as much as I wanted to say that that's the
language being spoken here, I.couldn't do it.
And I kept trying to arrive at the native language
or what was being spoken or used and I kept coming
up with all kinds of nationalities - Middle Eastern,
East German. . But, I always kept going back to the
language, French. The language being spoken here
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#19.5: I don't know if its for . . for ease of the kinds
of subjects that they're using or talking about
or. . . if its a conglomerate of a number of
different people and the common language just
happens to be French. I don't know. Just a
feeling.
#72: Were all the people of the same appearance?
Or dressed the same way?
#19.5: Well, they were all dressed in white lab coats
and everything. But, if you mean from a physical
characteristic standpoint . . .
#72: Yes.
#19.5: I don't know. I can't remember.
#72: Okay.
When we went down in the assembly area, down
underground and the storage was in the rear and
you said you felt like it was potent, full strength.
#19.5: Yeah. I get a feeling like this is something you
could dilute in water. Not necessarily water -
could be air, water. . sand. I just get a feeling
like a little voice in the back of my head was
saying, this is not one one millionth part per
cubic foot . This is full strength. This is the
real stuff. You know, this is the really potent,
undiluted stuff. You know, I don't . . its hard
to explain that feeling. Its like you could . .
you could dilute it 100,000 times and its still
very dangerous. But this is really the . . . this
is the heavy stuff. I don't know how to explain
that.
#72: Okay. Near the end you said it looked like a
ghost town.
#19.5: Yeah. All I got was a . . .
#72: Physical destruction?
#19.5: No. No physical destruction. What I was looking
at was empty buildings. And I don't. . you know,
i . .
#72: In the back of the building, is that where the
raised . . . .
#19.5: No, this is standing in the front looking out
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in the area was empty.. Like, I don't know if it
was . . you know, I couldn't say it was empty
for a security reason, or a hazard reason. . .
Logically speaking, I could say that it was, but
I can't do that.
#72: At that point in time.
#19.5: It was empty.
#72: It was empty; it didn't appear to be destroyed.
#19.5: No.
#72: Not physically damaged, just empty.
#19.5: Like abandoned.
#72: Okay.
#19.5: Now, that's different from my hazard feeling. I
had a real hazardous feeling about this target.
Like a disaster type feeling. But I don't want
to associate that to the deserted buildings in
the area. That's . . clearly a different
impression and I don't know how to explain that,
but . . .
#72: Okay, I don't have anything else.
#19.5: I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't want
this statement 'deserted or abandoned buildings'
to be associated to the hazard or the disaster.
#72: They may or may not .
#19.5: They may or may not be associated to that. It
might be just purely a security measure. . for
a. securing area. I just don't want to lock an
analyst into that kind. Well, I'm starting to
analyze myself to we'll leave it at that.
#72: Okay, I don't have anything else.
#15.9: I don't either.
#72: Let's wrap it up.
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