TRANSCRIPT SESSION NUMBER 819

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: STARGATE
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP96-00788R000500950001-3
• Release Decision: RIFPUB
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• Document Page Count: 16
• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
• Document Release Date: June 10, 1998
• Sequence Number: 1
• Publication Date: October 29, 1981
• Content Type: REPORT

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GRILL FLAME
PROGRAM
CLASSIFIED BY: MSG, DAMI-ISH
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REVIEW ON:
GRILL FL"AME
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION #819
1. (S/NOFORN) This report provides documentation of a remote viewing
session conducted for training purposes only.
2. (S/NOFORN) Post analysis on target viewing indicated a considerable
degree of correlation with the viewers impressions of the area. Many of
these correlations were gestaltic in nature and not absolutely clear to
the viewer from a training or learning standpoint. Some changes occurred
in the target between when the outbound team was there and the arrival of
the remote viewer; an exercise class had departed the area in the interim.
Confusion experienced by the viewer was cause for some discouragement, but
the viewer continues to be very positive in attitude and approach. There
did not appear to be a great deal of overlay in this session.
3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the docu-
ment, Standard Remote-Viewing Protocol (Local Target) by Harold E. Putthoff
and Russel Targ, November 1978.
4. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the targeted site. At TAB B are photographs
of the actual target site taken by the outbound team on their first visit.
At TAB C is target cuing information.
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#01: Okay. This will be a remote viewing session for
29 October 1981 and the on mission time is 0930
hours.
Okay, #25 I want you to concentrate on _, and PM-
the Colonel. They've arrived at the target S,Coij
destination. I want you to concentrate on them.
And go to the same target they're presently at.
When you perceive information pertinent to that
target, I want you to describe the information
to me.
PAUSE
#25: I'm not getting anything.
#01: Just relax.
#25: Before. . Before on target time, I got . . . . .
leaves. . . going up to the sky. . up the leaves.
Either insLdeglass or glass underneath the leaves.
#01: Describe how they looked inside glass. What
makes you say inside glass?
#25: Its like. . . If I were under the glass, looking
up through the glass at leaves.
I think its a glass . . no no. . Under the leaves
or over the leaves, covering the leaves. . like a
. . greenhouse might be.
#01: Do you perceive any repetitive pattern tc the
target?
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PAUSE 0(s)
#01: Okay. Relax and . . think of ~.. Concentrate do
only on,..... And will yourself to be where,,,,. "^
is at. Be where is. Go where ... is. it
And wait for F?,,y to tell you something about the rapt
target. So, concentrate on relaxing and wait for
Tom to tell you something about the target. We'll
wait.
#25: Ungodly amount of static today. I can't. . .
seem to get through anything. I asked how Murray
was earlier and I saw intersection at . . . on
Reece Road where the greenhouse is. There are
some stores up at the intersection of 170, Reece
Road I think and there's a greenhouse back there.
#01: Okay. Why not . . Try not to decide where he's
at. Why not you have him tell you some small
things about the target. Let's not be concerned
about the larger target per se, let's worry about
. . . some significant pattern to the target.
or color . . .
The feel of the target. Gut feeling for the target.
Ask him about these things.
#25: Two patterns come in. One is a wavey line. Like
you might draw. . . like a child might draw waves
on water. If they were trying to draw water. And
the other were dark lines that go . . . vertically
up and down.
#01: Okay.
#25: Like a . an arbor for grapes or something like
that.
PAUSE
Not a whole lot of them, just a few.
#01: That's okay. We don't. . . We don't have to worry
about what they are; just that they're there.
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#01: Follow these vertical lines. in either direction
and see if they're connected to anything.
#25: They go in the ground on one end. Come out of
the ground. . . grow out of the ground.
#01: Very good.
#25: Other end seems to be connected by more lines.
To each other.
#01: Okay. Look at the angles of intersection. Try
to remember what the angles of intersection are.
. . of those other lines. Concentrate on those
angles of intersection until a depth to the line
forms and describe what occurs.
#25: I'm not getting anything.
#01: Okay. Very good. Why don't you . . . . concentrate
on the field of those lines. And you reach out and
touch those intersection lines. Tell me what they
feel like.
#25: Like wood. Unfinished wood. Cut roughly.
#01: Can you sense age to this wood?
PAUSE
#25: 1 don't know. Fifty years just popped right out.
PAUSE
#01: Describe to me the impression you have of what
will happen if we take that wood away.
What is your first impression?
PAUSE
#25: Something fell. Green.
PAUSE
#01: Okay. We . . . We won't worry about what that
was that fell. But describe the sound that it
made when it did fall.
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#25: Rustling sound. . . like leaves. Rustling of leaves.
Rustling and rushing sound.
PAUSE
#01: Is'that the only sound?
PAUSE
#25: A. . . cracking sound.
PAUSE
#01: Okay. Describe . . if you can . . the type of fall.
#25: The first impression of the fall was just a light.
something very light fell. But now, I'm going. . .
going back and the lines are holding something up.
They're like stilts. I was feeling up the side of
thing to see . . above that . . vertical connection
at the top. . see what else was up there and I feel
like shingles. Not asphalt, but like redwood or
something like that.
#01: Very good.
#25: I think its stilts. I think they're stilts to
support a part of a building. The rest of the
building's on the ground.
#01: Okay. Let's not get too fast. Describe to me why
you would say redwood shingles.
#25: Well, the texture. They may not be redwood.
There's another kind of shingle that I don't know
the name for, but . . . it has a rough. . . side.
And its . . . they used to build houses out of it
in the 50's. I think.
PAUSE
#01: Okay. That's very good.
PAUSE
#25: Its smooth, but it has ridges, that's what it is.
PAUSE
#01: Reach out, touch one, tell me what the temperature
of that object is.
#25: Cool.
PAUSE
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#25: Below seventy.
#01: Concentrating on those ridges, describe for me
the ambient light in that area.
#25: Its a shaded area but its outdoors. I just ran
my fingernail real fast down the ridges to feel
them and hear a sound. If I heard a sound. . .
I heard the sound. . . trying to describe it .
#01: Okay.
#25: Washboard. When you run your fingers down a
washboard.
#01: Very good.
Describe . . . how these. . . objects are connected
to the stilt type objects.
#25: They're above the stilts.
Its like a building. I'm looking off to my left;
I can see a lower grassy green area. . almost
like a golf course. That color. . that rich,
green color.
#01: Very good.
#25: And its lower. . might have. . shallow water in
it.
PAUSE
#01: Do you see any pattern to the green?
#25: No, its grass.
#01: Describe the boundaries of the grass.
#25: On the far side looking across it, is taller
grass,weed-type grass. Weed type grass. The
other boundary on this side is the . . . is the
target. It seemed like a building that I was
describing. . with shingles. Shingled building.
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#01: Okay, what I want you to do now is to let go
of these objects. . . and fall, and tell me
what you hit.
#25: Hit the ground.
#01: Describe the ground.
#25: No grass right where I fell. It was sandy,
rocky. It was wet. There was a . . . I hit
the . . my back. First I fell with my butt
on the bottom, not with my feet. Just pushed
back and let go. My back hit first not because
I tilted in the air but because the ground goes
down into a slope.
#01: Okay, relax there on your back. And when I tell
you to. . . keep your eyes closed now. . When I
tell you to, open your eyes at the target. When
you open your eyes tell me the first impression
of target function. Okay, open your eyes.
Describe the function.
PAUSE
#01: Describe why you say that.
PAUSE
#25: I can't. Its just a feeling.
PAUSE
See an older woman inside.
PAUSE
#01: Okay, why don't you ask her what she's doing.
PAUSE
#25: Well, very quickly I got - cleaning, but I
thought. that was overlay, so I asked again
. . and I don't get any . . .
#01: Okay.
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#01: Okay now, remembering everything that you have
to this point, said. I have no further questions
for you. What I want you to do now #25 is to
relax and just think about the target and tell
me any additional information that you think I
should know. Just take your time. Use whatever
time you want.
#25: I saw asphalt shingles. Light colored gravel on
dark colored asphalt - tiles or shingles, not tiles.
What I'm up against is . . . or what I've been
touching and feeling . . . I'm still life on the
ground. . at the bottom of it is an appendage built
out like a room built out. . . to the side of the
main building.
#01: Remember what that looks like.
PAUSE
#25: I just moved in it like the angle of (not audible).
PAUSE
Seemed like a little dirt road up by the side of
the building. Probably a drive way.
#01: Very good.
#25: Trees over that. Seems to be lots of thick trees
around. That's about all.
#01: Okay.
\ -- - - - - - -J _Y --tocro. home now. Its gone.
#25:
#01: Okay, relax and shake your arms and legs a little
bit. I'm going to put the tape on hold. Come
back to this room now. Just relax, take your
time coming around here.
#01: Okay, you're finished your drawings here. Why
don't you start with Number 1 and explain your
way through this.
#25: Okay, Drawing 1 is a . . just a . . view of the
stilts. At first the vertical lines. . that I
first saw and that's. . that's pretty much what
they look like even though this is a very simple
drawing. The . . the . . . they were dark against
a light background.
#01: Um hm.
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#25: And then, I don't know if there was . . . there
seemed to be more . I keep wanting to draw
one out here but then it starts to make a box
and I didn't get a box feeling at all. And, so
I won't do it, I'll leave it at that.
#25: Drawing 2 is what the stilts evolved into - the
double lines. . are now the stilts. And, I tried
to . . I hung. . clung to the stilts right here,
felt this shingle here labeled "A" and that's the
feeling that I described - it was the rough ridges
where I first said it was redwood and it felt like
the . . different kind of shingle, the rough
shingle.
The building, I didn't draw in, but its here where
I've labeled it as building or home. Here. The
ground, this is sort of a hill that goes down and
comes around like this, so this area's lower.
#01: Okay.
#25: Its really tough to draw.
#01: So this appendage is sort of hanging out from the V'
building.
#25: Yeah.
#01: Proper. And supported above ground on the stilts.
#25: Yeah.
#01: Okay.
#25: I just got the idea that this might be water here
so I'm gonna say - could be water.
#01: Okay.
#25: Okay.
#01: Then you . . you des. . . can you describe for me
the . . the type of shingle that . . .
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#25: Ah, yeah. I don't know the name of the shingle
but its . . . its. . ceramic or a fiber type
shingle that has an edge - if you were to slice
it and look down the shingle it would look like
Drawing Number 4.
#01: Um hm. Okay.
#25: Okay. Drawing 3 is a overhead view which I never
got during the session but I tried to draw here.
#25: Just to show where my view was. The star indicates
my view.
#01: Um hm.
#25: The grassy area was out here. While I was looking
at the grass area - when I wanted to go out to look
at it to describe it, I made an effort to go around
the building to get out here to see what was
on the other side of the building . .
#25: Which is blocked as you can see from that . . from
my view here and I couldn't see. I couldn't move,
I couldn't get out of there.
#01: Where is the road that you were describing?
#25: Oh.. Okay. The road would come right along here
where I've written an overhead view. Dirt road.
And it goes like right up against the building.
#01: Okay.
#25: Curves around this way too. And the trees were
all around in that road.
#01: Um hm.
#25: Not in the road, but on the sides of it.
#01: And you had a pattern, in Drawing Number 4 called
wavey lines.
#25: Yeah. That was one of'the first patterns that I
saw . .
#25: . after the leaves, which I didn't draw.
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#25: But which I'll draw here in the middle and label
it 5.
This is just a cross section to a pattern that I
saw. This is sky in here. . .
#25: What do you do with the leaves.
#01: Why don't you circle that 5 so it matches the
others.
#25: Okay.
#01: Okay, do you have anything else that you'd like
to add?
#25: No.
#01: Then let's go find out what the target is.
#25: Okay.
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