TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DCC-59 (GF-044-81)

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• Publication Date: May 22, 1981
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DCC-59
1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request for information.
2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided
as raw intelligence data, and as such, have not been subjected to any
intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of
the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing
information provided the remote viewer.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DCC-59
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#14: This will be a remote viewing session for 22 May 1981.
Mission time is 0900 hours.
All right #07, the time is now 0900 hours. The targeting
information that you need to access your target for today
is contained in the sealed envelope that you have in your
possession. I want you now to psychometrize the envelope
that you have. I want you to use the information from
the envelope and go to the target today. I want you to
use a time window of 1200 hours local time, today's date,
the 22nd of May, at 1200 hours. Go to the target. When
you're there describe the general area. Relax now, relax,
focus, concentrate, describe the target.
#07: I saw...immediately a...I think it was a map of a long, uh..
regular body of water. A dotted or a dashed line..running
curved, slightly curved pattern towards the river. I
think it's a river.. Some mountains to my right. I still
don't see the target, just ...just a map...just a map.
#14: Okay. I want you now to focus on the target. I want you to
go to the ground on the target. Describe your impressions
surrounding you .............
#07: I don't know what this is but...it reminded me of conduit,
uh, flume, um...big tube... Roughly in this valley.......
Okay, I seem to be on high ground... looking at low ground,
uh, to my north, to the north.. There's not many trees.
Some kind of complex over there to my left.. It's a big
truck..a big truck. There's about..six or eight guys around
it.
#14: Describe the truck and the activity...
#07: That's about the size of a..deuce and a half. I think it's
got a..looks like a van body....
#14: Describe the people.
#07: Look like, uh, troops some kind. got piss pots on. A greenish
OD.. Some guys..guys standing around, uh, older, strap
hangers... Some type, some type of equipment...
#14: Tell me about this other equipment.
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#07: Just stuff that fits together ...goddamn ..................
Damn if I know.... Funniest thing, I didn't think I was in
a war zone but somethin' sure as hell blew up.. There was...
right where I was there was a big explosion..
#14: Describe your experience.
#07: All hell blew up.. I thought somebody fired on us but..
all of a sudden I was under all this rock and this crap..
Once I realized I could handle I started lookin' around to
see...see what was going on... My guy's up there near that
truck-didn't even dive into the foxholes... I don't know,
I felt like I was covered up real deep..a lot of rock.
Musta justa been..I don't know.. But...guys over here around
the truck are still just doin' exactly what they were doin'
it looks like.
#14: Okay.
#07: You know, the excitement you know. I don't see any smoke
or anything.
#14: What did you see?
#07: I saw pipes and iron and..nothin' blew up, it's okay.
#14: Okay, I want you now to-
#07: I don':t see anything anyway.
#14: -to move above the area in altitude and tell me, describe
what is below.
#07: (Mumble) over to the right.. I think I'm looking north.
Other than that there's a ravine over there to the right.
My guys over there to the left, a little higher ground then
falls off in a valley.. Straight ahead, to the north...
bumpy and bumpy, rugged hills over there to the side. of
the valley... Really not very interesting.
#14: Do you perceive any other activity at this location, of
significande?
#07: You mean right- 100 yards or so?
#14: Within this five square kilometers.....
#07: I see a repetition of bumps over there to my right-laid
out like artillery positions. The revetment seems to be...
seems to be opened towards me.
#14: Is there anything in the revetment?
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#07: Oh, I don't think so, just kinda model smooth if it is
it's a..camouflage nets. Want me to go by and look?
#14: Go look. Describe the revetments.
#07: Well, there's a towed piece in this one on the left..and the
damn thing's pointing to the northeast... There's a..I get
a strongest feeling that there's only one other of these
positions. It's occupied. There's a...uh, just a minute.
I don't know what to make of this. I got a..I got a mine
there, a cave or somethin' here... Back there to the east
there's-down in that ravine there's three things dug back
in the hill. Could be artillery, I don't know.
#14: What other perceptions do you have about this target or the
activity taking place here?......
#07: Five clicks?
#14: You do not have to limit your perceptions to five kilometers.
You are free to cover a much broader area as it pertains to
the, target................
#07: Way over there to the west.... thirty, forty people come in
a close formation. I think it's some kind of training.
They don't seem excited or anything.... They seem to be.....
This is weird as hell... I'm seeing rain..and a lot of
people with umbrellas up, in a group. It-makes no sense to
the scene I've been looking at.........
#14: Okay, I want you to relax. How would you describe the nature
of this current activity?...
#07: You mean the very broad scene here, the umbrellas, the truck..
The only activity I saw was troops marching calmly..whole
slew of umbrellas in the rain. And a truck with a few
people.
#14: Very good, very good.
#07: I didn't see any other humans milling around.
#14: Okay. At this time I want to move you forward in time.
This will be the only movement in time we have on this project.
I want you to move one week. Remain at the target location.
Focus on your target location and move one week in time to
the 29th of May, 1981. I want you to relax, focus on the
target for the 29th of May, 1200 hours. When you're there
describe the activity on 29 May.
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#07: Ah, hell... Somewhere around in here..further I think to
the east, maybe the northeast is a bunch of tracked
vehicles and a..in a protected valley. I don't feel any
big excitement, I saw three or four troops walking around
between the vehicles which are all oriented in the same
direction that's to the west. Around near where I was I
saw similar vehicles with the real tall antennas with guy
wires-stabilizing 'em.... Other tracks were-looked like
some kinds tanks. But I don't see anything exciting that..
is contrary to the status quo..
#14: Okay. How would you describe this tracked vehicle or tank?
Is it anything that is familiar to your memory?
#07: At first at quick glimpse I got of one of 'em near that guy
was..I got camouflage nets, you know.
#14: Is this, is this equipment camouflaged?
#07: Yeah. Whole goddamn area is pretty well covered. Looks
pretty good, too. I thought at first one of the tanks I
recognized as a, looking American, and then behind and to
the right I saw a couple more that had some squarish angular
things on it up near where the turret was and I thought
it~might be some kinda SP gun, I didn't recognize it. When
I tried to look closer at it it just blew up on me, it just
disappeared. You were talking just then, I..was up under
the-the bow of one of 'em looking up at the tube. It was
the thickness in the tube standing out beyond the mantlet.
I can't place that. The glacis plate was fairly... fairly
smooth and uncluttered... crescent shaped..rim... Made the
driver's hatch level rather than sloped. Oh, I got it right
here right now. I'm sorry. Shoulda told you... I got the
wheels or somethin'. Oh, okay. I don't recognize this
thing.
#14: Okay. Don't, don't spend a lotta time on that. I have one
last question. This is a very general question. I want
you to access raw information. When I ask you a question,
when I'm finished with the question, give me the raw impres-
sions that you received while the questions being asked.
How best would you describe the level of activity with this
operation? For example, would you describe it as training
or other activity?
#07: Training. I can tell you the status quo, alert. But not
panicky, just aware of their purpose. No stated alert, just
conscious of their purpose, maintenance of..of readiness.
#14: Okay. I have no further questions. At this time I would
like you to come back to this room,. to the present time,
22nd May 1981. I want you to take a deep breath, stretch
your arms, stretch your legs, unfocus, and we'll take a
pause at this time.
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#14: All right. We're going to turn the tape over at this time.
#07: Okay, what do you want?
#14: Uh, an overview-
#07: Overview.
#14: -of the situation on today's date, the 22nd.
#07: Okay.
#14: In other words, a composite of the map that you'd seen and
the truck with, you know, with the men. Kinda how they were
located to everything else that you perceived.
#07: That's funny. Now, you know when I was on the ground I
didn't see that river. I think I know where it was, but I
didn't see it. Right, for now .............
#14: Okay. Uh, are you drawing one that- is this on the 22nd or
the 29th?
#07: Twenty, uh, whatever today is.
#14: Okay, today's, okay. Be the 22nd of May.
#07: I don't know over in here was..fields up to a settlement
over in here somewhere... I had the- over in here somewhere..
artillery was...was in that direction.... There was some-
thing over here other than the troop. What the hell was it?
Toward the west. What the hell was that?..... I can't
remember what it was, but I saw something to the west of
the troops and I can't remember what it was... Uh, okay,
there was hills, rugged country over there, rugged country
this side of the valley, uh, the valley here. And somehow
I feel there was a river along over here.
#14: Okay. Why don't you, uh, put an arrow and a label perhaps,
to the river and the village or settlement that you had.....
#07: Um........
#14: Okay. And the, uh, the situation on the 29th. You mentioned,
uh, artillery positions camouflaged. Would it help to draw
those now?
#07: Well, it was pretty complicated but, uh, it was a deep ravine
like area that leveled for maybe 150-200 yards across a
little ravine valley like thing. And the camouflage sure
seemed to me like it was almost from high ground to high
ground. You know, from the top it looked like the slope
came down then bumpy across and then high ground again on
the other side.
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#14: As an inter-
#07: Then I found myself underneath the darn camouflage netting,
and the netting was up a good 40 feet off the ground on a
telephone pole.
#14: As an analyst, if you were looking at imagery or something
of the area, would you say it'd be very difficult to discern
any activity?
#07: I've always thought I could see any camouflage. I found
myself wondering if I could see this if I wasn't so close
to it. I felt like I was flying over about 100 feet above
it. And at first I just saw some tanks and vehicles got
cuts of it here and there. Like I was flying past holes and
I'm seeing holes through it and I couldn't figure out why I
couldn't see it, could not focus on, stay on. And then I
realized I just getting flashes of it here and there. And
then I managed to get down underneath. The, uh...I don't know,
one thing I looked over very carefully was, uh, the front
of one of the tanks. And the...I can't remember what the
mantlet was shaped like. I'll draw that separate but the.....
I haven't worked, uh, worked the table in a long time so.---that
may mean something to you. I don't recognize it. But the..
I remember...I don't remember how the... I noticed that there
was a..a tapered rise to make the, uh, cupola hatch, uh, lie
level. And this, this was just down, down slope side of the,
uh, front glacis plates.
#14: You had a very, very down sloping, long glacis plates?
#07: It, it, I don't know what the angle was. I didn't think to
observe just what the angle was, but, uh, it was steep enough
that they had put a crescent curved crescent shape of metal
to, uh, an the front side to make the, uh, hatch level. And
I would examine that very, very close up and I, uh, I didn't
get a good look at the tracks. I was gonna scoot around the
right side over there and look at the, uh, look at the tracks
and wheels but sibmething happened and I just didn't get to
do it.......
Okay, crescent shaped ring, uh, filler ring used to, uh
make the hatch level. And this may give something here,
I-don't know.
#14: Is there any way that you could-I'm asking only because I'm
not seeing what you saw on the 29th. But would it be possi-
ble to give a map like rendition of the 29th, uh, generally
where the positions where you saw the tanks and the artillery
and-
#07!: I'm just guessing as to directions.
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#14: Did you have a handle on this truck that you saw on the
22nd? The location of the truck in relation to the-
#07: Yeah, I thought the, I thought the tanks, I didn't see 'em
in the scene, but I had a feeling they were to the northeast.
I don't know. I thought the tanks were back up in here
somewhere. And I thought the netting was stretched from
slope to slope. Sure like to know where the hell that is.
#14: I have no further questions. Is there anything you feel you
can add to-
#07: No, I don't think so.
#14: The overall feeling, you know, now that the session is over
with- what type of scenario, as far as activity, level of
activity. I know I asked you during the session. But, uh,
that called for an analytical reply and that's why I waited
until the last part of the session.
#07: In two or three places in the session it felt real good to
me, uh, the viewing. There was great clarity. In between
there there there was bits and pieces of all kinds of things
flying by that had little or no meaning, uh, not to what I
felt the situation was. Uh, oh, I know what the thing-
excuse me- people with umbrellas, uh, raining, people with
umbrellas off to the, uh, west there. That's what that was.
Okay. We won't put that in the map. Uh, that was very clear
and very strong. I don't know whether it had anything-to do
with it or not but I dumped it just in case, I don't know.
Uh, I didn't feel excitement in people that I saw. Uh, I
didn't feel anxiety, uh, I felt, uh, it was pretty much
routine, but still very much aware of why they were where
they were. Very much aware of the purpose that they were
there. As opposed to wished they were somewhere else sort
of thing. They were calmly excited, but not any feeling of
imminent hostility. That's the way I felt about it. Main-
tenance of training posture. Uh, maintenance of staying on
the alert.
#14: In other words it was an alert type status, but not imminent
hostility.
#07: Not an alert that it came down officially that people are
takin' turns out on the line. No, There was a higher than
normal feeling of alertness as opposed to troops say here
at Fort Bragg and troops along the front border where hos-
tilities could break out. I felt that whoever it was there
was near some area that had a potential for outbreak. Uh,
as opposed to type of maintenance of training and discipline
that we might have say at Fort Bragg.
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#14 Okay.
#07: 'Bout it. I'm gonna put the umbrella-
#14: Okay.... All right. No further questions. End of session.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DCC-59
1. (S/NOFORN) Prior to this session the interviewer was given the attached
targeting instructions and a sealed envelope containing a UTM coordinate
which identified the target location.
2. (S/NOFORN) During the session the remote viewer was asked to access the
target, using the targeting data contained in the sealed envelope, at 1200
hours on the 22nd of May 1981. He was asked to describe the target area and
determine the level and type of activity at this location. The viewer was then
asked to move forward in time to 1200 hours on the 29th of May 1981 and des-
cribe the activity at that time.
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