SESSION REPORT, REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-83. VIEWER 10.5

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GRILL FLAME
PROGRAM
CLASSIFIED BY:MSG,DA(iI-ISH
DATED: 051630ZJUL.78
NOT RE. A T = NATIONALS REVIEW ON:f Q
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-83
SG1A
1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request for information concerning
2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided
as raw intelligence data, and, as such, have not been subjected to any inter-
mediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the
information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB C is customer's request
for information.
5. (S/NOFORN) This remote viewing session was conducted concurrently with
Session D-82.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-83
#66: This will be a remote viewing session for 0900 hours,
15 October 1980.
Relax and concentrate now. Relax and focus your attention
on your target for toda . Tar et area is designated by the
map sheet reference
Move now through space in presentitime to the target area,
and move into the assembly building at the target area which
you have described before.
PAUSE
Report in when you have the target.
PAUSE
#10.5: Ah, I don't think I'm getting um, saw all the stuff on the
.....loading bay has got big crates stacked up against the
wall......... okay, I'm, I'm looking down the, the big, um,
cylinder area.
+07 #66: Describe it to me.
#10.5: Flat on one side of the wall. The rest of the walla round
circular... some sort of a overhang in corner...hung...five
at thirty feet...row over (phonetic)
#66: Report the present activity.
#10.5: It's ah, got this feeling of a half a, half a cylinder laying
on its side ..lon g. Some sort of a stand on it thing holding
it up. I'm not getting any activity per se..
#66: Is this cylinder the device which you discovered in this area
before?
#10.5: No. When I looked at it, it looked less complete than the
other one before....... It's like it's cut in half to......
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#10.5: ....allow access into parts, but this was just like very,
very skeletal (mumble). I saw it, and I said, oh, that's,
ah, that's the beginning of another one.
#66: Relax and focus for a minute on this that you see. Relax and
move closer and closer and closer. Concentrate and focus and
describe the construction to me.
#10.5: It's about...about quarter sheet metal has some sort of a
molding ring inside it (mumble) a curve. It's ah, one end..
like a hoop in a, a barrel. There are several of these hoops
...and s-first down at the length (phonetic) but this thing
does not seem that big...seems maybe, ah, 18 to 24 inches wide
diameter...the length is still long. It's, ah, eight feet or
so. It's a gadgetry inside 'em, somewhere on the right half
a large block, um, a rectangular box is inserted that has
veins in it, and it has something sticking out of its left side.
Like a nozzle. It's like black, and it's heavy metal, heavy
solid metal, and that's on the, the right side of that. Half-
way point. I don't know that that's there now, at's, uh....
would be there. I'm looking at interior framework that goes
inside the is in the bottom of the cylinder half that is like
mounting brackets... There's not very much on these brackets.
Long strips of metal running lengthwise, and shorter strips
run width wise to give some, to give a solid base to mounting
shapes. There is, ah, in ah,.......seems very funny. I just
saw a, saw a rounded.shape like something that would fit in
under a nose cone, and that there's a rounded shape what is
um black and had, it was co-it was like a solid cone. That
too would be on tte - rlght end, but there is no nose cone on
this thing now, but, somewhere along the way the way I saw it
a cone thing, and this cone was like layered, a layered solid
cone that was about....... two feet in diameter on the base....
eighteen inches, two feet long altitude.... and this thing had
counter-revolving. It was made of counter-revolving disks
...some sort of a disks that was of cone shape, made of individual
disks to diminishing sizes, and these things appeared. to have
little black tabs on 'em...at different spaces, and these disks
would rotate and counter-rotate against each other.
I do not feel that that's on this at this time, but that it
would be on it at some time. And, essentially this,_a_:trough
shape is dik-just being started, just being put together.
#66: Let it be put together in your mind, and explain in technical
detail that which takes place.
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#10.5: Okay. Let me get my hand on this one.
+21 #10.5: Ah, okay. ...........Okay. There is a.....I'm gonna...as soon
as I ge-on the left side there's this whole bunch of wiring
and transistors and it's like it's electrical timing and the
firing circuits and that kind of stuff...it's not ...it's the
it's just stuff that makes it work is on the left side behind
the big black veined square...some sort of a, a fan in there
too. Maybe that's what this big square thing is...keep it
cool,. and it's,ah, turned on, and I keep, when I start gain g
+24 to my right ..... when I go to the right of the black veined
square I keep gettin this sphere in there that...-it's this
sphere shape and it looks goldish, yellow goldish...not...
it's a different hue than the, ah, outside skin of the trough,
which is, is more like aluminum, steel, when I got to this, that
sphere is located ...umm, right behind the nose thing that funny
black cone with,ah, counter-revolving disks. It's like that
is attached to the rod of some kind, that runs down the axis
of the trough, uh, but, in actual(phonetic) it goes into this
sphere, and if you looked at it, it looked like......a bump,
a big bump on the side of this sphere, but it's really separate.
The counter-revolving disks seem to do something on this rod
The rod does not come out of the sphere on the other end. It
stays... goes into this sphere ...into the core ..................
Which is where I now am. I am, ah,the back of this rod
has like four veins on it that are thick, and it seems when this
rod, ah, rotates it needs only about an inch rotated, these
....veins swing looking forward they swing in a kind o' clock-
wise direction, and they move about an inch in :c=ircuifPrenc of
the circle that they inscribe is about an inch movement for
each vein and they...I'm not gettin this all together, but they're
like they contact large, ah, looks like copper, ah, huge blocks
+28 of metal, and they're like movin' and they move over these
blocks of metal. They're to like make a contact, and the only
other thing that I see in here is this....these myriad of
....introding gray...ah, ah, boxes that are lo-elongated....
Just sort of conicle(phonetic) shape like square cones. They're
not, they're not a pure square; they're not a pure rectangle.
They're littlier on one end of the rectangle than on the long
end of the rectangle, and these things are like all around me.
And, they are separated by about an inch, an inch and a half on
and on each side, and there's those separations that were all
packed with stuff, looks like. I don't know. It's like all
sorts of open wires and contacts and connections, and everything
runnin', runnin' around in these cracks is'um..... the idea of
the rod with the fins there's some veins on it in its inner
core. Now, I'm looking at the outside of this thin q aqain....
I'm outside. It doesn't have anything on it. lt'& butside.
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#10.5: It's just like a bubble within, ah, just like a bubble inside
a cigar. This thing is looking..... more like it's three and
a half feet or so in diameter, now, because when I got my hand
on the trough, I like put one hand on one side, and had to lean
way across to touch the other side. Like I was picking it up.
So, it more...that was before, it's more like three and a half
feet ......................Other than that, I don't know. It's
very complex.
#66: Okay.
#10.5: Darn, they're so many variances of separate things to talk
about.
#66: What I want you to do is remember everything that you've seen
so you can draw it for me. You don't have to talk about it
now. I want you now to....determine what relationship this
has for the device you've seen previously. Search to see
whether this is the device or. somewhere in the building is
the device you saw previously.
#10.5: Umm. No, it's not. My device is some place....now, I don't
know if I'm upside down or what. No, I see my device. I felt
it was on some sort of conveyor, but there's rollers on the
top of it. I can't figure this out. I don't know what I'm
doing or where I am. I got this idea ...ah, overhead rollers
instead of underneath rollers, and then I had this feeling of
this bomb thing sandwiched between two layers of rollers, and
being moved.... processed, not moved, processed somehow....
Like it was being degoused or something. You know, Electric,
and it was being moved by....itself through or along some certain
path,. ..up overhead like, inside, you know, where it was subj--
subjected to being.....you know, ah, done, or whatever it is done...
'cause I feel it in somewhere else in the building here.
#66: Describe your device as it appears to you now,
#10.5: Um'd..mmm.... I'm looking at a finished thing here.
#66: Describe it to me as it appears.
#10.5: Umm...ah, just a metal skin all the way around,rounded nose.
+35 #66: Dimensions.
#10.5: Umm.... about... three and a half, four feet by about .... where
am I.....ah, oh, eight feet, and then there's this ending
that's a been put on it...this blocks like a, ah, thin apparatus
or something that's on the end of it. It's a drag apparatus
of some kind. And, I want to say that's about another, umm.....
two and a half feet.
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#66: Using cutaway methodology describe the interior.
#10.5: Okay. I'm ..........some reason this one, um...... ah, um,
there it is, okay, um,. In this one there seems to be
differences, but the only differences I can tell are like an
organization.......in that ...... this tube just has this....
globe idea, sphere idea,. but it seems to be...set back more
towards the middle and it doesn't seem to....be in touch with
anything right from the nose...... in direct touch. It doesn't
seem to have.....it's like there are basic differences in the
mechanism. Like this one's for a certain type of test, and
I'll try this one out, and knowing it's going downstairs
it......they're going to, ah, use a different methodology on
different design. I'm trying to get a hold of this one
enough to. say something about it .........................
The thing that is missing to me is that very elaborate......
disk cone, layered disks, and piston thing. That is not....
I'm not pickin' it up here......and the ball is set back
farther from the nose than in that other one. And, between
the ball and the nose is essentially .... what .... can't really
tell. I'm, ummm, another, I see this hump, this jumble of
clutter. I can't really tell what's in the distance. It's
like set back an extra two feet.....
#66: Okay. Um, you've been at this quite a while now, so I want
you to remember clearly the differences between what you've
seen of these two objects, and prepare now to draw those
images that you've had.
#10.5: Okay.
#66: Okay. Now, during the session here, you seem to go to the
assembly building, and you seemed to have stumbled acrossed
a device which you've perceived to be different than the
one you saw before, and, ah,.....I'd like you to explain,
sketch now of this device that you feel is different than the
device you saw before, and how you came about this in kind'a
your own words. How you came across this in the building.
#10.5: Um, okay. Where I believe I was in the building was in the
left hand, what I will refer to as being the left hand, ah,
circular portion of the building which is in underground,
you know. It's sunken in the ground. The work floor is down
about 20 feet below ground level. I went zooming in there,
and I saw again an open trough type of area thing raised up
waist. high. It was essentially empty. This trough was about,
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...at.first I thought it was about two and a half feet in
diameter or sob but when I got up to it, and started working
on it, it seemed like it was more three and a half to. four
feet in diameter, and about eight feet long.
Now, I didn't, you know, ah, the reason we end up with this
feeling that this one is different than the one I had worked
on in an earlier session or two, the reason we have that. feeling
is because late in the session when you had me, you know, you
asked me, and I said, no, it doesn't seem like it's the same
one. You said, go. find the other one, and bam very spontaneously
I was looking at a completed all finelly tuned, and finelly
fabricated bomb on this rack in sketch four. So, that makes
me think that what I got into was the.... that area is like where
they begin to put assembling, assembly parts together. They
have to bring the sheet metal in, and the, the skin and they
start fitting the. pieces to it. And, what we've got is were
straddling production of two different weapons. One that's on its
way out the door and ready for test, which is the one that I
had worked earlier, and then this one which is just coming the
door in pieces, and is going to be put together.
#66: Okay. I understand.
#10.5: That's the difference in the two. Now, difference in physical
structure, I'll go into as well.
#66: Okay. But, before we go into that, let's turn the tape over.
I can see that we're almost out, huh.
(ADMIN NOTE: Tape turned over)
#10.5: Okay.
#66: Now, at this point then, you had this trough type thing, and
felt that it was not yet assembled, and I asked that in your
mind you see it assembled, and then tell me what went on.
Now, I imagine the result of it, then, is sketch one.
#10.5: Yes. The results of that is sketch one. It's a progressive
assembly of the bomb. The major bomb parts. Um...I'll take
sketch one from left to right. The nose, inside the nose of
the bomb or a nose cone of the bomb is this multi-layered cone
shape of revolving. black metal disks, and these things revolve
in, and revolve against each other. They counter-pose each other
I guess, and I had this feeling of sandwiching of progressively
smaller sandwiches, as we go. towards the front.
This thing is somehow connected and, and turns a brass or
copper metal, heavy, you know, strong metal rod which is
about, oh, I forgot to put that in there. That's about two
inches in diameter .......... you know, that's about three
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#10.5: ....three and a half, four inches in diameter.....
okay. On the end of this rod the opposite end of this rod
are four heavy cut metal rectangular fins, that protrude
from the rod at ninety degree angles. You know. Perpendicular
angles to this axis of the rod, and this end of the rod is
located in the sphere. And, when I went in to look at what's
on the end of these things, these fins that I was gettin' a
feeling. for, I ended up in a space, which was about this
area of the inside volume of like a volley ball or a basket
ball, not even a basket ball. It's too big. A volley ball
or a socker ball or something like that. Very, very tight
in space, and it's a void. That's all it is inside there.
Inside this void is the thin mechanisms on the end of the rod
and there are like four protruding bus bars that stick down
into the void, and the fins are off-set in a clockwise
direction from these four matching bus bars, and when the, I
don't know, when the disks up front make the, make the axle
revolve counter-clockwise, which makes the fins revolve counter-
clockwise, they only revolve an inch counter-clockwise, and
at that point the fins match up with the bus bars. Like this.
They go....you know, they match up so that they're exact
straight lines, and they either contact it or they establish
some sort of electrical field or magnetic field or they
complete some sort of a circuit. They lock into place, and
that's their function. I don't know what happens after that.
That's their function. They click together so that these
off-set bus bars are now connected to them, splush(phonetic)
face-on-face, uh, and that those bus bars are made of the
same type metal. It seemed like they were like bro- brass or
bronze, highly polished yellowish, ah, orange-yellowish type,
a light orange type of material. No, I'm sorry. A gold
type of material. A gold type. Like burnished, ah, brass would
be, Okay. Yeah, brass. Like burnish brass would be in color.
Okay, now, on these, now these bus, four bus bars stick down
inside the void. The thing that actually would be about where
the skin of the volley ball is on the void is like these
square facings of what are the interior ends of square cone,
squared off cone shapes or, ah, flat top pyramids shapes. The
flat top of the pyramid being the flat part that faces the
inside of the void that I was looking at inside, and then....
the four sides of the pyramid gettin' bigger, farther and farther
apart as they go farther away from me, and then the base of
the pyramid being out somewhere out where the, ah, exterior
skin of this goodie is. And, those are all over, you know, I'm
inside of a spherical void, and these.....flat metal facings, the
flat tops of these metal, of metal type gray metal pyramids
faced me all over the compass, okay, 360 degrees, 790 degrees.
However you describe the degrees inside a sphere. They were
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1t10U5: ...to my right, left, top, bottom, front and back in
all directions around me.
#66: Okay. There. were many pyramid shapes facing you when you
were in the center of. this sphere.
#10.5: Right. Pointing at me is more like it. Rather than just
facing. But, they were pointing right at me.
#66: Okay.
#10.5: Okay. And, that, I couldn't even begin to count the number
of them. I wasn't really concerned with that, but I felt that
the number of them was....in the area of 30 to 45. Not in
the area of 100, and not in the area of only 10, but somewhere
around like the 30 to 45 bracket. Whatever it took to. make
these faces. Okay. Now, each one of these pyramids was an
individual and separate entity, separated by about an inch
gap from its neighbor. And, all aspects of the, allrsides of
all pyramids in there, because of the geometry of the sphere,
they were all totally parallel. They didn't have one goin'
like, you know, off from the parallel. All sides were perfectly
paralley to one another so that they fit absolutely perfectly
together with about an inch gap in between, inch to an inch
and a half gap. And, as I was in the center looking out,
trying to find out what was out there beyond this redundancy
of pyramid form, the only thing that I could find out that
was sort of different was that in these gaps were filled with
wiring and circuitry. There was wiring and circuitry actually
inside these one inch gaps between the pyramids....a clutter
of fine little low voltage, micro-voltage wiring, and that
kind of stuff.
Okay. In sketch one, the sphere is abou t close to this front
rotating disk apparatus. To the rear, to the right of the
sphere, then, the only other major appliance inside this thing
that I was able to discern as it was added, as i t was put
together in front of me progressively completed, was a thing
which looked like a ribbed or a stacked layer of black metal
plates. Ah, having ribs around i t. Like a radia- if you
can imagine like a radiator has ribs around it...take the
radiator idea and compress it down so that there's only about
an, ah, ah, a half an inch between ribbings, and this thing
is square and black. It was pretty good size. It seemed to
be some sort of a partition. It served a function of like
partitioning something or keeping two things apart or two
sections of the bomb apart. And, the one, the curious thing
about it is that, and I'm nearly positive of this, I don't
know if I've screwed the placement of this thing up or not,
but the rear, the rear side, the right hand side of this black
ah, metal partitioning ribbed partition here, has a likewise
square rib or protrusion that sticks out of it which has a
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#10.5: ...hole in it. I don't know if that hole goes all the way
through the thing or if that hole goes into the interior
of this black thing or not. Okay, and that sort of now
left braining it afterwards, I'm sort of looking at this
and saying, well, gee \uh1Z,maybe that thing was supposed
to be on the other side of this sphere, but I don't know.
I drew it there because that's what I thought..... and
around this sphere ..... okay, between the front piston and
this sphere, between this sphere and this black metal
wafer: type thing is all sorts of electronic wiring, miles
of wires, hum, pounds and pounds of transistors and condensors
and, ah, small instruments other little, little tiny boxes...
the size of my coffee cup and the size of this tape recorder
which, ah, really, you know, they're just, they're not important.
You know. They've served the function of the bomb, but, I
mean you could spend the rest of your life trying to describe
them. And, it's just a humble jumble clutter type thing.
#66: You talked at one point about a fan or a cooling fan.
#10.5: Aha (affirmative). That is what I thought, okay, in the
session I remember saying that now. That's what I thought
that this black wafer thing might be.
#66: Okay.
#10.5: Okay. I recall it. I'm talking about...at that time I'm
talking about this black wafer thin g, metal with the ribs,
and that might be what I was talking about. Okay. Overall
proportions, the sphere fits right inside the overall bomb
casing. Umm...sphere's about four, up to four feet in
diameter, three and a half to four feet in diameter, and so
is the bomb. It's about three and a half to four feet in
diameter, and it's about the body of the bomb, the actual
body part of it is about eight feet long. That is sort of
discounting the nose cone which is an extra little bit, which
has this counter-revolving disk thing in it, and discounting
anything that may go on the back. Which I did not observe
in this one. I didn't get that far through process.
#66:
Okay. Fine.
#10.5:
Okay. In sketch two I have tried to draw a cutaway of
interior void...the thinned rod, the metal busses, and
facings of these gray pyramids that come down and face
the
the
into
this void. That's sort of self-explanatory knowing tb at.
All right. Later on in the session then towards the end of
the session you asked if this was the bomb that I had, or the
device that I had seen and worked against before, and my
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#10.5: ...feelings throughout this whole thing was no, this wasn't,
gee look at this, I'm looking at something new being done
here. They've just brought this part in and now over the
next couple of months or so they're goin' to spend their time
putting this one together. I never associated this, sketch
one and sketch two with being what I had done before. I
always associated that throughout the session with being a new
one.
#66: Okay.
#10.5: You know. The model A or the model A4, bomb, you know. Ah,
so you asked me, you asked me to go.find, I guess some words
to the affect of go find that other bomb, okay. Well, I
immediately had a feeling that I had relocated, but still to
some other part of the building, I didn't really feel that
I had gone anywhere far away. I felt that I was still
essentially in the same complex building, but somewhere distant
ah, within the...you know, at the other end of the place. The
other end of the complex type situation.
#66: Okay. What did you find there.
#10.5: At which I immediately perceived this completed, I mean a
device which appeared completed in all aspects. You know.
I was looking at the outside of the thing. I Was not looking
at...a partially assembled, like I had been doing earlier in
the session...a total change of atmosphere. I looked up, and
it appeared as though this bomb, or whatever it was, was
completed, had this big box on its rear end, polished steel
metal, quarter inch or so, oh, by the way, that's, I wanted
to mention that....the first one, when I was looking at the
cutaway, and the half, the half cylinder, the sheet metal
ribbing, the sheet metal is used for the skin and casing of
this thing.... sheet steel, and it is curved and has.....
metal ribbing 360 degree circles like, what did I call it on
the tape, ah, barrel hoops that go inside it that hold the
mold, you know, that hold the shape of this thing. Okay,
well anyway, back to sketch three. There was this completed
device at, it looked, what appeared, when I first looked at
it, it looked like it was suspended beneath a con\eyor belt
roller, and it sort of threw me off a little bit. I couldn't
figure if I was looking at it upside down or what, and I...
finally decided that I was right side up, and that yes,
in fact, this bomb thing was, did appear to hang from an
upper roller, but it didn't really hang from the upper roller
because there was this roller beneath it as well, and it was,
in fact, sandwiched between two roller things.
#66: Okay.
#10.5: As I've drawn in sketch three. And, the feeling that I had
here was, not that it was being transported, nor that it was
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#10.5: ...being stored for the sake of storing or transported for
the sake of moving, I had the feeling that it was being
processed, that its being sandwiched in between these rollers
was moving it through a small area of exposure of some sort
of equipment that was a part of the final process of gettin'
the bomb ready to go, and the word degousing just sort of
hit into my mind, you know. It wasn't like the bomb was
being forced through this machinery, or anything. It was
hanging out in theopen, but in a tighter area. Like a place,
the area of this room, and maybe 20 or 30 feet long. It was
hanging in free space, but there was something going on in
there that directly affected the bomb. Even though there wasn't
nothing touching it or beating it or, you know, anything like
that.
So, the word, the idea of degousing or demagnetizing or
something like that, ah, just went through my mind right then
very spontaneously. Like, oh, this is the place where, you
know, they get it already to go at the very end, and it's some
sort of an abstract invisible process like degousing.
#66: Okay.
#10.5: Okay. Then, you asked me to do the cutaway. By then, umm,
sorry, but I was sort of beginning to do a little fade of my
own. It was an interesting feeling though that this bomb that
was being processed at the end did feel to me, did look to me
to be different. It looked like a different model. Like the
structure and the organization of the inside of this shell
casing..... casing was not the same that I had just come from.
The one that I had very methodically watched go through an
assembly process. Giving me the idea that this one is a
little different organization. Maybe, like a little different
firing mechanism method, ah, ah, and so therefore, you know,
the big thing was the absence of this mechanical garbage in
the front. These counter-revolving disks and the rod that
took up the front of the device in sketch one was notoriously
significantly absent in the one in sketch four. There was
none of that type of apparatus. It still had the sphere,
but that whole front end there was all a humble jumble of
little black boxes and wires and transistors. You know. The
typical garbage dump, and that the sphere itself seemed to be
moved back about two feet towards the rear of this shell, ah,
towards what was actually, I've drawn it here, it's like almost
the very center of the bomb instead of the one in sketch one,
which is sort of, could be decided to be nose heavy, 'cause
the sphere is in the front end of the bomb. This one, the
sphere appears to be about in the middle of the bomb, and about
center of gravity. And, that's about it.
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#66: Okay. Um... You were unable to focus then any more on your
cutaway of this, ah, device that you felt was the original
device you...looked at.
#10.5: Ah... I definitely took the one and three_.and.-.four. as the one
that I had worked some weeks ago or whenever it was.
#66: Okay. The essential difference between the device in sketch
four and the device in sketch...
#10.5: one
#66: ...one is a lack of mechanical apparatus in the front of the
bomb?
#10.5: Yes. I had the feeling that the make-up, the essential make-
up of the spheres in both bombs was the same. Okay. No real
differences there. I wasn't attra-, well I wasn't really
attracted to this sphere.. I was looking at the whole bomb
trying to figure out differences. The essential difference
is the one that's finished... doesn't seem to have the
mechanical detonating apparatus. What I would call like
mechanical detonation garbage in the front end of it. Something
to do with these disks, and, and rods and things and stuff.
It has merely electronics in the front. Soft, hard, hardware
electronics, you know. Wires and wires and terminals and
junctions and, what do you call it, transistors and little black
boxes that do funny little things electronically. No mechanical
doings in there of any significance.
#66: Okay.
#10.5: Okay. There might be some- What I'm saying is there's some
small little remote mechanical servo that does some little
thing in there. That's cool. That's not of significance to
me. It. doesn't have this massive preponderence of mechanical
stuff in the front like the other one does.
#66: Okay. So you think that the, the bomb under assembly which
you've discovered is a new device, and has an elaborate
mechanical detonation device in the front of it, whereas the
bomb that is ready togo, which you depicted in drawing four,
ah, is void of this.
#10.5: Devoid of that and would appear to be more electronically
driven and detonated and such and calculated and figured out,
and. activated and everything.
#66: Okay. Do you have any other comments at this point?
#10.5: Nope.
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#66: Okay. Do you have any confidence level that you feel that
you'd like to mention about any of your particular drawingss
or feelings.
#10.5: Oh, well, yeah, I feel good about one, two, and three. I...
the whole thing about four, I was starting to drift off when
I was trying to find out what any differences in structure may
be. I was starting to drift off by that time. The cold was
starting to settle into my joints, you know. Things aren't
what they used to be.
#66: Okay. Fine. Thank you much.
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1. (S/NOFORN) Prior to the session the viewer was told that he would be going
back to the assembly building which he had described on 8 September 1980.
(See Session D-34)
2. (S/NOFORN) At the beginning of the session the viewer was provided with
the following map reference and coordinates:
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SUBJECT ', Unconfirmed Source Information Irov-decl ~or/arid Pertctining
to the Asscrnbly Buildin5 at (D 83)(Source'*`I0.5)
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0. (s/NOFORN) Source described a device u.>hich he thought was
different prom the orle he had described on 8 September 1980 (D-34).
(See draw'Ings *1 and 1"2)
b. (s/NoFoRN) When asked to look Por and describe the device
of 8 Se-prtember I98o, Source Found it located in a d Aerent part of the
building, undergoing some sort of 4'inctl processing. (See drelwrs `3)
C. (S/NoFoRN) Source -Felt that the device, in drawtn3 'r 1 , was
being Prepared or some Future test and had Some sort of mechanical
detonating mechanism. The device in drau;Ings *3 avwd*4 'is ready
now , but does not have the mechanical detonart+on mechanism of the
device bein3 Prepared for n Uure? test.
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