SUMMARY ANALYSIS REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCC9

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• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
• Document Release Date: June 10, 1998
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• Publication Date: March 4, 1980
• Content Type: REPORT

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REVIEW ON: March 2000
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REMOTE VIEWING SESSION CCC9
1. (S) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request for information on a target of interest.
2. (S) The viewer was provided the geographic coordinates of the
target area at the time of the session. This was his first attempt
at this particular area. He was able to achieve his usual state of
relaxed concentration. Ambient room noise was moderate and intermittant.
The viewer was able to resolve target imagery and work through the noise
because of his ability to concentrate on the task at hand.
3. (S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document,
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the viewer
reference his impressions of the target site.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCC9
#66: This will be a remote viewing session for the
4th of March 1980. We have an on-target time of
0900 hours.
Relax and concentrate now. Relax. Relax and
concentrate.
Focus your attention on your target for this morning.
SG1A
Relax.
Relax and concentrate.
PAUSE
Focus your attention and describe the target to me.
PAUSE
+07 #11: My general overall impression of the area is . . . . .
its lots of trees. . . dark green. . . associated with
them. . . . I . . . I get a feeling of . . . . .
rather hilly area, perhaps even slightly mountainness.
#66: Okay.
#11: Along with this, I have a definite impression of something
large and circular. What it is, I don't know. I also
saw a . . . I'm not sure what it was, it reminded me of a
ski jump or something. It seemed to be a road or a path
or . . . something . . that came down off a very high hill.
At a very, very steep angle. It would be stupid to build
a road like that.
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#11: I see. . . . . Again, I'm seeing . . . . forest,
+11 mountain. Skiing.
PAUSE
#66: Okay. Focus now your attention on the specific target
SG1A
#11: Each time you've read the coordinates, I get. . . and
I mention this large round thing. But I certainly don't
see all of it. I only see an edge or part of it.
Its . . . unusual in shape. Too difficult to describe
I'll draw later.
#66: Move to an alternate position and obtain another
perspective.
#11: I don't seem to be able to look at the shape from other
positions. I don't know why.
#66: All right. Describe the shape and its relation to the
+15 surrounding terrain.
#11: Boy, this whole thing is a trip. I focused on the . .
the shape as it was and tried to . . . describe it.
Can't describe it. Then I decided to . . . . .
to determine why I couldn't see all of it. I kept
perceiving a . . avid manmade structure of some sort.
It seemed to be a part of a hill or a mountain. Perhaps
this round. . . structure, shape, is built . . . .
partly under a hill or a mountain or something. And as
I was focusing on this structure, all of a sudden,
and awhile, I'm getting again, I see a big . . . . huge
dish. . . Dish is . . . . That siren was very appropo
(Referring to siren outside viewing room). Is there a
siren outside or is it???
#66: Yes. That's fine.
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#11: This dish is located on a huge . . . dish located
on a very tall tower.
That siren is very unusual. I . . . felt very
comfortable with it. It seemed a part of the
session. I wasn't sure if it was outside or part
of the session.
+20 A very strong European feeling, like . . . .
no sense analyzing.
#66:
#11:
#66:
#11:
I keep getting a crazy flashback. Its. . . Its a
different area. . . or location from the target. I
know that but I keep getting pictures of it also.
Explain.
PAUSE
I just . I keep getting drawn away from . . . the
target to an area I've been to before. I can't seem
to hold onto the target.
Which area is it that you keep getting drawn to?
I keep finding myself standing in large mountains in
Germany looking at a Soviet Intercept Site on the other
side.
#66:
All right.
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#11:
This area and the target area are somehow similar but
different.
PAUSE
#66:
All right. I have no further questions at this time.
If there's anything that you think you can add to
clarify the target area, please do so now.
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#11: I keep searching for some sort of answer or clue
to this large, round, partly rounded shape but I
can't see all of it.
The only feeling I can get is that . . . . you
can't see all of it. That its either somehow hidden
or built into the side of a hill or cliff or mountain
or whatever. That seems to be . . the . . the image
that popped into my head every. . each time you read
the coordinates so it must be very significant. . . .
to the target.
#66: Okay. Now. This round thing is different or the same
as the . . antenna dish on a tower?
#11: Its different. I have the feeling that this round
shape is a solid structure and its located at ground
level. The . . The huge dish I saw. . . I'm seeing
it again, just seems immense. Appears to be atop a
very tall - tall tower. This round shape or structure
is nearby but much lower than the tower.
PAUSE
#66: Okay, anything else you'd like to add before drawing?
PAUSE
#11: Wow, this is weird. Well, I don't think I'll bother
drawing a bunch of trees and hills or mountains or
whatever. But what I will do is my first impression
was this. . . from where I was. . . originally zoomed
in and located, this round thing. And, how do I do it.
I'll do a partial oblique area.
PAUSE
Its weird. It had . . . No, that's not even right.
Well, we'll see how it works out. It had kind of a
chamfered edge.
#66: Take your hand away from your mouth please. Thank you.
#11: And then it seemed to come down straight.
PAUSE
And somehow there was another part of it that came out
like this. That could have been on kind of an angle
or could have been flat. This was the . . . The top
was flat it seemed.
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#11: But I was only seeing this partial round shape.
Then I would see . . . something. . hills or
something. Side of the hill or not, something
seemed to blend in here.
And over to the left from where I was positioned
when I described this . . this weird shape. . . it
was off to my left somewhere. It seemed to come down
over a hill. And it went off aways in the distance.
Very steep. It couldn't possibly been a road. This
was a very . .. seemed to be very steep and it came
down . . reminded me almost like a ski jump or some-
thing. And then over here somehow it came off, it was
an appendage to the left somewhere. And, to give some
feeling to it, I'll put a . . . . These seemed to be
very tall trees, but they're so far off in the distance.
And, as if you were down here that same tree would be
. . . . . something like this.
I had the feeling that there were trees on either side
but this was a swath, some kind of swath cut out.
#66: And you, what did you call that again?
#11: For lack of anything better, a ski slope. . . or some
type or road, some type of clearing, a roadway, a
clearing of some sort. But it was such a steep - it
was just like a ski, a ski thing, it was so steep.
#66: Okay.
#11: I mean if somebody was going to make a road in there
they'd zig-zag it up the side of this hill so it couldn't
have been a road, logically.
This seemed to be in the foreground very close to me
on my right. This seemed to be off to my left some-
where. And this seemed to somewhere over here go down.
Perhaps that's why I had the impression this was some-
how located in the side of a hill or a mountain or
something. This was very close.
You've for . . . This is all pretty much forrested.
There was some clearing down in this area.
#66: You can use some colored pencils if you'd like.
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#66: As you're working on that, I'd like to ask you
some other questions.
On the structure that you have drawn, which I think
you figure as a manmade structure of some kind?
#11: Yes, that's this.
#66: Can you tell me a little bit about the materials
that it was made out of?
#11: It appeared to me . . . It was really weird. It
didn't appear to be an occupied structure or anything,
it just appeared to be a big slab sitting there. Like
concrete or something like that.
##66: Am I to infer that . . . is it possible to get into
this structure versus to being a . . . when you say
slab to me that means a foundation or something which
has no inside to it, its solid. What's your feeling
about that?
#11: Well, it was, it was really odd because as I tried to
to focus on the structure, I seemed to be going
into the perverbial tunnel or cave bit.
#66: Um hm.
#11: But where I was it wasn't anything manmade or anything.
If it was anything, it was a natural type cave. So,
I dismissed that as not being part of the target.
#1: Why?
#1: Why do you say "natural type cave"?
#11: Well, it was very rough, rugged. There was no . . .
It wasn't chopped out of the rock or anything. It.
It was natural looking.
#66: Can you tell me where this perception is in relation-
ship to the target? Can you physically locate it in
relationship to the target? Or, is it a different
scene altogether of some kind?
#11: I felt as if the activity took place somewhere over
. . . . . near this. . . this shape. Round shape or
whatever. Oh, and I felt it took palce on my right.
There seemed to be some division - that keeps popping
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thing on the left being a division here. And. . .
all the activity and stuff was on my right. I never
wandered over to the left of this place here. And
the tower and this huge dish or antenna or whatever
seemed to be further off to the right and up higher
than this structure here. It would have been off the
page, but it was over here.
#1: Do you have a feeling for whether or not you were
looking North, South, East or West? In relationship
to the way you've drawn that picture.
#11: No.
#l: How about distance to the target. . . not target.
#11: Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
#1: Not target, but to the tower?
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#11: Remember I said that I was traveling. I had trouble
remaining at this target. When I traveled to get to
where I was being drawn all the time, I was going. . .
I'd go North.
North. Why'd I say North. I don't know why I said
that.
I have the feeling then that perhaps, North is in this
direction.
#1: Do you have the feeling for the distance to the tower
from this . . . position?
#11: It wasn't far. It didn't seem to be far.
Let's see if we can't put that in some type of
perspective. Let's say if . . . this thing here is
over here, and this was over there, and this round
structure. . . . . . is here, whatever. . . . . .
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#11: It was quite an elevation. Over here. Let's
. . That's odd, I had the feeling that it
was a square type tower. I don't want to draw too
close to the edge. But, it would have been somewhere
up at a much higher location and above this round
shape here. Is that clear?
#1: Yeah, that's clear.
#11: And it really . . . this probably has absolutely no
bearing or use, but I had this platform type thing
and I had this. . was a huge dish. And at one time
I saw it and it was a dish and it had a concave type
shape to it an all. The next time I saw it it seemed
to be covered by something. But, either way it had
a point somehow there and when it was opened there
seemed to be something sticking out in the concaveness
in the back. But, as it was covered, it appeared to
be more convex.
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PAUSE
#]: Do you have a feeling for the size, diameter?
#11: It was huge.
#1: As big as a bus, or what?
PAUSE
#11: I seemed to be very close to it when I was looking at
it and I was up on an upper level. Up at the top of
it. I was looking at it level. And, . . . . . . . .
PAUSE
18 - 20 feet diameter.
#1: Do you feel like it was stationery or rotatable.
#11: At that time, it felt stationery. But I don't know.
You know, I didn't get into the workings of it or
anything. But . . . It was on a huge lattice, very
solid lattice type . . like the MARS station is on
or something. Great big square tower. And, if I was
to go out and stand next to it. It . . . I'll just
draw a crude stick man here. That would be about the
relation in size.
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#l: Let me ask you one more question about the tower.
Do you feel like you could have stood by the antenna?
Was there a walkway or something there?
#11: Oh, yeah. It was certainly big enough to walk around
it. For maintenance or something. . like that. Not a
. . yeah, you wouldn't want to have a guided tour
up there, you know.
I have a feeling there were a lot of other antennas.
Smaller antennas. Smaller type antennas. Rip antennas,
Yagies or whatever. . . that were attached somewhere
around this tower.
#66: Okay, is there anything else you can add to the drawings
you'd had?
#11: Not unless you want me to draw a picture of that other
place I was being drawn to.
#66: Well, tell us about it. You said you recognized it
or something.
#11: Oh, certainly, I've been there and for some reason I
kept being drawn to it and being drawn away from this
target.
#66: And what was this place?
#66: Okay, we were saying before the tape turned over, you
had found difficulty from time to time staying on target
and you kept wanting to go to a different place that
you have physically been to before. Physically observed
before. What place was that?
#11: A Soviet SIGINT Site in the Harts Mountains. Now, this
is really weird. I've . . . There's a road that goes
very close to the border of East and West Germany and
I've driven on this road several times. Its a beautiful
drive. And there's one point where its . its one
of the highest points I believe in the Harts mountains
and you look across this valley and right below you of
course is the . . the fence, the border and on the other
side there's another. . probably a higher point on the
East side. And up on top of there sits this complex
which is Soviet SIGINT Site or collection site or whatever.
And I kept being drawn to that and I was . . recognized
the area I was in. I was standing in the parking lot.
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#11: . . in the parking lot of this place where you get
all this view looking across at this installation
over there. And then, I would say what am I doing
here and I would focus back on the target or this
round thing and the ground and it would seem like I'm
being drawn South to get back to the target and then
also I'd be drawn here and I'd be going North. A
Northerly direction.
#66: Am I to infer from your descriptions that you have a
feeling that this target area is in the geographic
area of the world, Europe or Germany?
#11: Yeah. I would . . I would say it would be rather there
than Australia.
#66: Okay, I'm trying to understand whether you feel the
target is located in this area of the world or whether
your target impressions brings forth memories of things
you've seen in other places in the world.
#11: I felt rather close to this part of the world. And
that's why, it was really odd when that siren went
off because that's not the typical siren here. And it
it seemed like a part of the session rather than
being some noise outside.
#66: Okay, any other comments you'd like to make?
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