TRANSCRIPT REMOTE VIEWING SESSION CC94
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC 94
#28 This will be a remote viewing session (edited for
security).
Relax now, relax and concentrate. Relax and focus
your attention on your target for this time. Focus:
SG1 B
Relax and concentrate and focus:
SG1 B
Relax and concentrate. Relax and focus your attention
on the target and describe the target to mo.
#32 There are lines there.-intersecting up and down,
from side to side. Looks like a clover leaf.
Looks like dirt roads. I get the impression of
wedge (phonetic) like the roof of a building.
+05 Building is very; very dark, very brown, very dusty.
Thick wall....see wall. I get the impression of open
slits in the building...slits like in a bunker type...
I got the impression of track vehicles. Looks like
the old World War.I tank. Like an old cannon (mumbling)
Hard rubber wheels. There seems to be bu...bunker
type buildings at the edge of...the edge of the clover
leaf.
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#28 Explore the bunker type buildings.
#32 They are only about 2, 3 feet off the surface of
the ground, then goes in deeper. Impression of
..uh..deep hole (mumbling) very deep and..uh..
+10 mortar (phonetic) type gear. This leads deep down.
(Mumbling) at the bottom of the hole there are
tracks. I got the impression of very shinny,
reflective, white, nose cone.
PAUSE
Have a (mumbling) down there.
PAUSE
Looks like ...uh...one of the old World War II sub-
things, but.....there are bunch of nose cones down
there. About 12...about 16, 12, 16.
There are people on, on gallories (phonetic). Like
porches..... Goes in the tunnel.
(Mumbling)impression of a circle. Spokes leading
to the circles.
Get the impression that area is domed. It's very,
very thick. Very thick.
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Get the impression that the cone should be facing
towards the center but they're facing towards the wall.
#28 Tell me where you're located now.
#32 I'm, I'm still in that storage whatever. Huge tunnel.
#28 Slowly work your way back out to where you started
and describe as you go maintaining continuity.
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#32 Ok. From this huge sub-end like structure (mumbling)
#28 Excuse me a minute. You called it sub-end like
structure. Explain to me what gives you that
impression.
#32 Like an old World War II submarine type. (Mumbling)
it's not.
#28 All right.Fine.
#32 Very, very thick wall thi5t leads to a...like a
spiral (phonetic). Tunnel leading up to..uh..to a
place where I saw that electronic gear which leads
up to that top bunker.
#28 Tell me about that electronic gear.
#32 All on tables.
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#28 Typify the electronic gear for me.
#32 Say again.
#28 Typify the electronic gear for me.
PAUSE
#32 (Mumbling) attached to a computer (mumbling) alot
of keys...looked more like (mumbling)..... telex (phonetic)
+20 or something...alot of keys. I don't know. (Mumbling)
on top...like (mumbling) something. I don't know.
#28 And then beyond this area, on your way out explain.
#32 Uh..same thing as when I came in. Open space with
what appears to be dirt roads intersecting with clover
leafs. This seems to be like I said...four of these
things. Four circles within the entire area.
#28 Tell me about the climate and the terrain around this
area.
#32 Ok. Very dry, very dry. Hard clay. Very arid, dry.
Although the...ok...this next...tree line outside the
area, but inside very hard, very dry. There's, there's
no paved roads, or anything. It's just hard. There's
no (mumbling)even though it's dry I don't get the
impression of wall there. I get the impression of
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#28 Move up to a higher altitude and describe the
+25 surrounding area.
#32 Trees. Very isolated like hilly ...hilly area, but-,.mild
hilly area not a, not a heavy mountainous area. Very
isolated. I keep getting impression of railroad tracks
on the left someplace.
#28 Ok. Move up even higher now, even higher and look
down.
#32 Ok. This is pretty dam high. There seems to be a body
of water to the southeast of it. This is very odd.
And..uh..isolated little islands south of it in a
finger of land directly east of ..... far (phonetic) south
(voice faded).
Ok. Between the body of water and that site there seemed
to be a hilly area..... almost dense trees and then sort
of...trees become coarse...trees become less dense. That's,
that's all.
#28 What type of trees?
#32 Fir. All kinds but alot of fir. It's hard to tell.
#28 All right. I have no further questions about this
target at this time. If there is anything you would like
to add, please do so now.
PAUSE
#32 No. No. Nothing.
#28 All right. Let's draw the impressions that you've had.
#32 The very first impression I had was..uh.. a huge
rectangular area. Then I got parallel lines. Not that
many, but..sort of a principal line goine up and down.
I'm going to draw it just as it came... like..a..something
like this. I'll make a double line ...they look like
roads...the other line ...sandy,hard clay roads. Then I
got the impression of lines going across this way, here,
and this way here. And, this didn't make sense because
around here there were 4 huge circles which I later
described as being bunkers. (Mumbling) eliminate that,
I guess. something like that. These, for some reason,
seemed to be interconnected. And, it gave you the
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impression of clover leaf. That's what it was. Then
it was at that point, after I got these impressions
of the lines, what-have-you, a single, singular
impression ...had the impression of a wedge which
looked like a roof. Something like this.
The thing that struck me here was the building was not
that high but was very, very thick and what I saw was
something like slits in here...very heavy cement walls
both front and on the sid..... on the back and from that
you directed me to one of these things.
#28 I said explore the bunker type things.
#32 Yeah... circular bunker type things....and what I
saw in there, and before I draw it, let me describe it.
It was..uh..these were about 2 or 3 feet above ground,
but they were very, very deep below ground. Very,
very clean. Very modern and I got...this is where I
got the impression... this electronic gear.
#28 Were you surprised to find that when you went inside?
#32 Yeah. Very, very. What was more surprising yet, is
that this thing, I was in only in this one...this is
the only one I was in...that this led to..uh..an
underground, huge tunnel...if you've seen any of the
old World War II submarine pens built by the Germans
that's exactly the impression I got...it was very,
very huge-except, and very, very thick...except
ceiling was domed as opposed to be completely rectangular.
So this is..... I guess I should put this..... somebody
doesn't know. And this was somewhat rectangular. Ok.
#28 This is an overview, or sideview.
#32 I was right in there. I wanted to describe the layout.
What I thought..... and that had...this came on later on
but, I got another impression of another circle here and
spokes leading to and fro ok. Then I saw that chrome
thing.
#28 The thing you called nose cones.
#32 Nose cones. Was attached to it. (Mumbling) I didn't
dare call it a missile. Impression that I got...and
I got the impression that initially they were all
lined up parallel but they weren't. They were on these
tracks with nose going this way. This was a second
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impression. The first impression was, maybe 12 or 16
lined up like this.
#28 Ok. If I understand you right, at one time you
perceived 12 to 16 ......
#32 Yeah .....this was the first perception ......
#28 .....Oh, kind of stacked orderly.
#32 .....stacked orderly in a line...
#28 ok.....and then ......
#32 ......then I got the impression here that all of
these led to..uh..to this spoked thing.
#28 Ok.
#32 I wanted to say track, but I'm not sure.
Just a way of conveying these things to that center portion.
Ok. And the only thing I saw in there was the..uh..
sort of a porch jutting or jetting gallory, ok. Around
this thing, here ......and there were few people here..
and some offices here....and what they seemed to be
doing was supervise this entire area below.
#28 There were people and maybe offices to this on the
side that could look down this whole array.
#32 Yes. That whole array was in the center and there was
a gallery type jetting from this cement...
#28 Must have been rather big.
#32 Oh. It was huge, huge. Very poor at dimensions.
But, you've seen s sub and you've got the impression
of hugeness and I couldn't help compare it because
that, that's what it was and..uh..but with this gallery
......I'm not too sure this went all the way around...
but I saw 'em here .....ok.....and all of this seems
to be interconnected. Although this building was in
the..uh..in the second shot for some reason seemed to
be in the..uh..in the center of this first drawing.
Ok. Someplace around here. Something like that.
#28 Building in number 2 is maybe what you want to say.
#32 Yeah. Let's call it number 2. All right. Then you
kept asking me to look around, look around...... let's
say that this entire complex was something like this.
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Too bad I'm such a poor drawer. Something like that.
Ok, and from the higher perspective this seemed to be
a heavy tree line here, ok. And, somewhere here, I don't
know how far, there was a railroad track. Kind'a went
this way...shot off. But, I got the weird impression
that ..uh..it shouldn't have come close to this area but
it was for some reason. I don't know. Maybe speaking
2 miles, 3 clicks, 4 clicks. I don't know. I don't
know. But my attention just kept going to that railroad
track.
#28 Ok. Why don't you draw me an arrow and show me the
direction where you said you saw water.
#32 Oh, yeah. No problem. But that was a real high shot.
#28 You mean from a real high altitude?
#32 Yeah. I couldn't see anything and I was trying to find
something I said I just go higher and higher and higher
until it just looked like a map, ok. Uh..all right, let's
just finish it off. Ok. I can't tell you how high it was.
You know. What scale it would be but I'll try to look
at it like it was a map. I saw a piece of land jetting
out this way. Something like this and coming down
something like this. (Mumbling) like this and with
islands ...something here....ok..... now there was..uh..
#28 And where was this complex located?
#32 I'm getting to that.....yeah, I'm coming to that.
Ok. This was island type..... islands.....small dam
islands.... something like this.....and then there was
a..uh..hilly, if there were mountainous area ...very low
mountains ...ok.... and this was heavily forested here...
ok..ok...and then beyond that, this, this kind of sloped
and plained off and the..uh..the forest was not as heavy.
Ok.
428 Further inland it was not as heavy?
#32 Yes. Light forested area (mumbling) and this dumb
thing was right here, ok.....and the railroad track
..someplace around here (mumbling) pretty isolated
all around here. Few buildings here and there .....
#28 Ok. Area in question is here then. Ok. Now, I'd
like you to do something for me. From a perspective
that you didn't see that I'd like to see if you can't
put the problem together in your mind and draw special
picture for me . If I could have a cutaway of this
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area so that you were down and could see the under-
ground part, like an ant hill farm or a mold's house,
can you show me how the situation leads from the
bunker down into this other complex...tunnel things...
as though it were a cutaway from the earth and you
could see inside of the earth.
#32 I can try and these are pure impressions, because I'm
not going to draw you a real picture because I didn't
see the real thing.
#28 Yes. I understand you didn't see it from this
perspective but I'd like you to try to put the pieces
together.
#32 What I saw was the circular bunker ok, that went
down quite deep..
#28 Draw me a ground line.....ok.....
#32 This is ground..... ground level...ok...then sort of a
spiral staircase to a small tunnel, all right...(garbled)
#28 That was my question. Is it man size or vehicle size?
#32 Vehicle size but not a big vehicle size. Small vehicle
size. Accommodate transportation for people. ...
better describe that....ok....which lead (mumbling)
to this huge bunker, ok...and this would be the top of
the bunker. All right. This, this very hard for me
to describe. I don't know the extent because I was
concentrating on this thing ...one thing at a time....
what you had there was the gallery ......
#28 Ok. We've switched now and gone sideways for a while.
#32 Yeah, yeah. Can't do that then. Let me, let me stop
there. (Mumbling) gallery...and then I'll just stop
there.
#28 Ok. Where is the area with the electronic gear in it?
#32 In here.It's in, it's in this one here, ok.
#28 In the X.
#32 Yeah.
#28 In the X in drawing 1, ok.
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#28 Ok. Let me ask a couple questions here, now. Perhaps
it will be a little difficult but let's see what your
impressions are here.
From the domed area you have a stairway leading down
to......
#32 I'm not sure it's a stairway, I'm just.....
#32 I just know it went down. I got the impression of
something circular going down. Doesn't have to be stairs.
#28 All right. Or people versus machinery.....
#32 No, no people.... people, strictly people .....
#28 Ok. And then it leads to a tunnel which may be vehicular.
#32 Yes. But, not huge. Not enough to accommodate ......
#28 The tunnel just below there is not big enough to
accommodate the missile thing but maybe vehicles of some
kind.
#32 Yeah.
#28 Ok. Now tell me about the passageway which leads into
the submarine pen area that you described.
#32 1 almost bypassed it. I did not go to it. This is not
a real cutaway in the sense that you'd have to descend
here. If this were a plane it probably circulated
around and came into this area. That's the best I can
do. I can't explain how you get down.
#28 Ok. You're saying that the submarine pen area, or this big
cavern area underneath is definitely lower but you don't
know how you transended from the vehicular tunnel to this
area.
#32 No. No. Because.I just saw it and I went...I got the
impressions from it.
#28 Ok. That's what I wanted to know.
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#32 To find, to find out whether this is just sloping or
whether it's ..... I don't think it's precipitous, but,
how it curves around into it, I don't know. I don't
know.
But this is definitely Oower than this and this extends
far down. Ok. And, then you would take, whatever it is,
a small vehicle or whatever, to get to it. I got the
impression that you don't slope down on it. You just
go right to it from the bottom of this huge thing here.
#28 Ok. Now I'd like to ask you some questions about the
session, itself. How did you feel about the viewing?
#32 I was very cautious. I didn't particularly want to
go into this kind of detail because I was afraid I'd
stop building my own little area.
#28 Ok. Do you feel that you've built your own little area?
#32 No. I took it one at a time. Some of the things...I
just gave you the impressions.....the lines....the lines
worked up to that building number 2. Then the circles
....and I went into the circle.....did that and I went
from one thing to another.
#28 Again, I want to ask you...you know...we are trying to
find the difference of what you might have expected to
find inside this circular bunker area and what you did
find , and you say you were surprised at what you did
find in there.
#32 Yes. Yes.
#28 Ok. Is there anything you want to add?
#32 No.
#28 Ok. That'll do it.
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