SRI'S COLOMBIA PRESENTATION

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: STARGATE
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP96-00787R000400100017-1
• Release Decision: RIFPUB
• Original Classification: K
• Document Page Count: 8
• Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016
• Document Release Date: July 13, 1998
• Sequence Number: 17
• Publication Date: March 9, 1973
• Content Type: LETTER

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Thank you very much, Gary, for giving me a chance to share with this
audience the results of some of our recent experiments. For the past half
year, my colleague, Ar. Harold Puthoff, and I have been conducting experiments
to detex?mine whether so-called psychic or psychoenergetic functioning could
be observed under. rigidly controlled laboratory conditions. Psychic phenomena
were not invented in the laboratory but are alleged to occur spontaneously
in the field. The purpose of our investigation is to find out if these
phenomena exist, and if they do exist, can they be successfully investigated.
We have now conducted experiments with two individuals who we wex?e
told had apparently demonstrated extraordinary human functioning in work with.
other investigators. We do not claim that either of these men have psychic
powers. We do, however, stand by our experiments which show these men
interacting with laboratory apparatus in a non-regular fashion. We conclude
therefore that these men, and the interactions that they apparently produce,
are worthy of further investigation. And we intend to carry out that
investigation in as careful and well controlled a manner as possible.
T/r. Puthoff and I-have both been involved in laser research for a number
of years, and throughout that.-time we have been avocationally interested
in psychical research. Based on our experience and familiarity with the
field of psychical research, we are aware that a subject has significant
motivation to cheat or hoax the experimentor if he is given a chance. It
was therefore our guiding principle to make ouz? experiments as cheat-proof
as possible. If in x?etrospect we decided that the results could have been
duplicated by stage magic, the experiment was considered void ,..even in the
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absence of any evidence of cheating. In addition, given the nature of the
phenomena, we designed experiments that would be independent of the belief
system of the experimenters. In general, we designed. experiments which
could be performed double--blind or judged by same objective method such
as data printed on a chart recorder.
The first of the experiments we will describe was carried out with Mr.
Ingo Swann, a New York artist. He has taken part in apparently successful
experiments with Professor Gertrude Schmeidler at City College, and with
Dr. Karlis Osis at the laboratories of the ASPR. Although Mr. Swann makes
.no personal claims of psychic ability, his performance in these two laboratories
made him appear as a suitable candidate for participation in our beginning
investigation of psychic phenomena. Since Dr. Puthoff was more involved
in this experiment than I was, I will ask him to describe the work with
Mr. Swann , after which we will show a film which presents in some detail
the experiments we performed with a second subject.
het me introduce Dr. Puthoff.
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As a result of the interesting work here in New York by others with
`Mr. Swann, it was arranged that he would visit our laboratory. We decided
at the outset to define a test especially suited to minimize the possibility
of trickery. So, a well-shielded magnetometer was chosen as the .device
with which Mr. Swann would be asked to interact. We want to describe that
observation. In passing, let me note that it is important to distinguish
between a single observation as described here and a series of experiments
carried out over a long period of time. Nonetheless, we do consider this
observation significant from the standpoint of indicating the existence of
a phenomenon deserving further study.
(SLIDE 1) Arrangements were made to use a superconductor-shielded
magnetometer.
(Description) The magnetometer is located in a well, mounted on shocks
inside an aluminum Dewar cooled to liquid helium temperature. The magnetometer
is shielded ozi the outside by ?-metal shielding.
(SLIDE 2) Isere is the aluminum Dewar wall, and here, mast important,
a superconducting niobium shield. The magnetometer is of the SQUID variety,
that is, a superconducting quantum interference device. The probe is located,
here. ,
(SLIDE 3) This device normally has an output voltage-whose frequency
is a measure of the rate of change of magnetic field present.
Before the experiment, a decaying magnetic field, trapped during'
cooling of the apparatus, was present inside the magnetometer, and its
decay with time provided a background calibration signal that registered
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as a periodic output on an x-y recorder. The frequency of the output
corresponds to the decay rate of the calibration-field (;.,10-6 Gauss). The
period is about 30 seconds. The system is noise free and had been running
for something of the order of an hour before our experiment with no noise.
Mr.~Swann was shown the setup and told that if he were to affect the magnetic
field in the magnetometer it would show up as a change in the output recording.
He then placed his attention on the interior of the magnetometer (this
is his description) at which time the frequency of the output doubled. for
30 seconds. Mr. Swann was. then asked if he could stop the field change being
indicated by the periodic output on the recorder. He then apparently proceeded
to do just that,- for a period of roughly 45 seconds. He then withdrew his
attention at which time the output returned to normal.
Upon. inquiry as to what he had done, he claimed that he had direct visual
perception of the probe inside and that the act of mentally observing
different parts seemed to him to correlate with different effects. As he
described what he was doing, making an accurate drawing, the recording
again traces out a double frequency cycle as had appeared before. An
atypical dip in the retarding took place then as he said he was looking at
a new part of the apparatus, a niobium ball .sitting in a cup off to the side
of the probe which was used in another experiment. We then asked him to
ref rain from thinking about the apparatus, and the normal pattern was then
.traced out for several minutes while he was engaged in conversation on other
subjects. At one point he started to discuss the magnetometer again, at
which point the tx?acing went into a High frequency pattern. At our request
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he stopped; the observation was then terminated as Mr. Swann said he was tired
from his effort.
(SLIAE 4) We then left the lab, and the physicist whose equipment we
were using continued to run the apparatus for over an hour with no trace of
noise or non-uniform activity. The top two traces show a continuing record
following termination of the experiment. The third trace was taken some time
later, the increase in the period indicating the reduced rate of magnetic
field decay. At various times during this and the following day when similar
data with Mr. Swann were taken, the experiment was observed by numerous
professional people.
An interesting side-light of the experiment was that Mr. Swann was able
to describe accurately what the interior of the device looked like, apparently
with some farm of direct perception. 1'h is tends to support the results referred
to earlier that were obtained by others with Mr. Swann at the ASPR. Barrin g
outright fraud and collusion, for which we have looked but found no evidence,
it appears unlikely that he would have had a chance to look at a diagram
beforehand, as he did not know that this particular piece of apparatus was
to be used until we arrived in the laboratory.
At this point we wish to emphasize again that we consider this a single
observational data point, not a long term experiment. There are variables
we wish to check for in future experimentation such as whether it was the
recording device itself that was affected xather than the field or magnetometer
structure. No evidence of manipulation by trickery was uncovered, however;
therc:fure we consider th~xt the problem at hand is tp determine tl~c exact
foam of the interaction. Further work with this subject is being carried out.
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Upon completion of the work and evaluation of the data, we expect the work
will be reported in appropriate scie nti:fic publications. And now, Mr. Targ
will continue our presentation.
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Thank you, IIa 1,
Before answering questions on this work, I think we should go on to
describe experiments done with our second subject. He is Uri Geller, a
rand ~;taE,e m~~~,ician
26-year-old Israeli Army veteran. He, unlike Swann, makes no secret
of his purported psychic abilities. We did not seek out Geller, but
rather he was brought to us to investigate the claims made for him.
In our work with'him there were many observations which did not meet
our strict criterion for well-controlled experiments. Although some
of these are identified and included in the film, our conclusions
concerning teller's ability are drawn from experiments which we do
judge to be well controlled. Neither the work with Swann nor Geller
has been submitted for publication, since we consider it to be~only
preliminary at this point. One of the reasons that we particularly
wanted to present our data here is to obtain your opinions and criticism
concerning this work.
With xegard to the material to be shown in the film, in addition to
~. fir. Puthaff and myself and other SRI scientists,.all the data shown here
were observed by the cinematographer, and by an assistant in a separate.
room who operated a video tape recorder. to have all material available
... :. .. .f or,.inunediate:..p~ayback.. With. ,that prQamble, ,we?will,. let ~ the, film speak ..
fot? itself.
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In summary we want to leave you with a clear impression about our awn
attitude toward these data.
We entered this research area as physicists to determine if so-called
psychic phenomena could be investigated under rigorously controlled conditions.
We conclude that such investigations can yield observable results worthy of
further investigation, and we intend to carry aut those investigations.
However, we consider it obviously too early to draw any sweeping conclusions
regarding the nature of these phenomena, or even the need to call them
psychical.
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