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100Tx CONGRESS H. R. 2083
1ST SESSION
To impose travel restrictions on the personnel of certain foreign missions and
foreign organizations in the United States.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
APRIL 9, 1987
Mr. SWINDALL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee
on Foreign Affairs
A BILL
To impose travel restrictions on the personnel of certain foreign
missions and foreign organizations in the United States.
1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa-
2 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
3 SECTION 1. TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS WITH RESPECT TO CER-
4 TAIN FOREIGN MISSIONS AND FOREIGN ORGA-
5 NIZATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES.
6 (a) IMPOSITION OF RESTRICTIONS.-The State De-
7 partment Basic Authorities Act of 1956 (as amended by sec-
8 tion 128) is amended by adding at the end of title II (22
9 U.S.C. 4301 et seq.; commonly referred to as the "Foreign
10 Missions Act") the following:
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1 "SEC. 216. TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS WITH RESPECT TO CERTAIN
2 FOREIGN MISSIONS AND FOREIGN ORGANIZA-
3 TIONS IN THE UNITED STATES.
4 "(a) TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS.-The travel of any indi-
5 vidual while in the United States, other than a national or
6 permanent resident alien of the United States, who is one of
7 the personnel of-
8 "(1) an international organization defined in sec-
9 tion 209(b)(1),
10 "(2) an official mission to an organization defined
11 in section 209(b)(1) from a country specified in subsec-
12 tion (c)(1),
13 "(3) any organization specified in subsection (c)(2)
14 which has a standing invitation to participate in the
15 sessions and the work of the General Assembly of the
16 United Nations as an observer and maintains a perma-
17 nent office at the United Nations headquarters,
18 "(4) any organization specified in subsection (c)(2)
19 which is not described in paragraph (3), or
20 (5) any foreign mission (as defined in section
21 202(4)) of a country specified in subsection (c)(1),
22 shall be limited to the municipal city limits of the city in
23 which such organization or mission is located, except that for
24 purposes of travel between missions of a country, direct
25 access shall be permitted to and from airports serviced by
26 major air carriers providing interstate or intrastate service.
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1 "(b) SPECIAL RULE FOR WASHINGTON, DISTRICT OF
2 COLUMBIA.-For purposes of paragraphs (4) and (5) of sub-
3 section (a), the metropolitan area of Washington, District of
4 Columbia, is that portion of the area which is encircled by
5 interstate route 495 on the west and and 95 on the east
6 (commonly referred to as the `Beltway').
7 "(C) COUNTRIES AND ORGANIZATIONS TO WHICH RE-
8 STRICTION APPLIES.-
9 "(1) The countries referred to in subsection (a) are
10 Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, the Czechoslovak So-
11 cialist Republic, the Democratic People's Republic of
12 Korea, Ethiopia, the German Democratic Republic, the
13 Hungarian People's Republic, Iran, Iraq, Laos, Libya,
14 the Mongolian People's Republic, Mozambique, Nicara-
15 gua, the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen, the
16 People's Republic of Bulgaria, the People's Republic of
17 China, the Polish People's Republic, the Republic of
18 Cuba, the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, the
19 Socialist Republic of Romania, the Socialist Republic
20 of Vietnam, Syria, and the Union of Soviet Socialist
21 Republics (including the Byelorussian S.S.R. and the
22 Ukrainian S.S.R.).
23 "(2) The organizations referred to in subsection
24 (a)(1) are the African National Congress, the Palestine
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1 Liberation Organization, and the South West Africa
2 People's Organization.
3 "(d) WAIVER.-The Attorney General of the United
4 States may waive the restrictions in subsection (a) if the At-
5 torney General, in consultation with the Secretary, deter-
6 mines and reports to the Committee on the Judiciary, the
7 Committee on Foreign Affairs, and the Permanent Select
8 Committee on Intelligence of the House of Representatives
9 and the Committee on the Judiciary, the Committee on For-
10 eign Relations, and the Select Committee on Intelligence of
11 the Senate that-
12 "(1) the national security and foreign policy inter-
13 ests of the United States require that such restrictions
14 be waived in specific circumstances with respect to the
15 missions of a country; or
16 "(2) the national security and foreign policy inter-
17 ests of the United States require that such restrictions
18 be waived in specific circumstances with respect to an
19 individual.".
20 (b) EFFECTIVE DATE.-The amendment made by sub-
21 section (a) shall take effect 90 days after the date of enact-
22 ment of this Act.
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The CHAIRMAN. Four hundred two
Members have answered to their
names, a quorum is present, and the
Committee will resume its business.
Does the gentleman from New
Jersey [Mr. GAI.I.ol insist upon his re-
quest for a recorded vote?
Mr. GALLO. Mr. Chairman, I do not.
The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the
voice vote prior to the quorum call and
the Chair's announcement that the
ayes appeared to have it, the amend-
ments are agreed to.
So the amendments were agreed to.
AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. SWINDALL
Mr. SWINDALL. Mr. Chairman, I
offer an amendment.
The Clerk read as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. SWINDALL:
Page 27. after line 13, add the followi-:g:
SL('. 13t. TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS WITH RESPECT TO
CERTAIN FOREIGN MISSIONS AND
FOREIGN ORGANIZATIONS IN THE
I`NITED STATES.
(a' IMPOSITION OF RESTRICTIONS.-The
State Department Basic Authorities Act of
1956 vas amended by section 128) is amend-
ed by adding at the end of title II 22 U.S.C.
.
`SEC. 219. TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS WITH tlliPt649'
I) CERTAIN FOREIGN MISSIONS AND
FOREIGN ORGANIZATIONS IN THE
UNITED STATES
"(a) TRAvaL RESTRICTIONS.-The travel of
any Individual while In the United States.
other than a national or permanent resident
alien of the United States, who Is one of the
personnel of-
"(f) an international organization defined
in section 2091b)(1).
"(2) an official mission to an organization
defined in section 209(bXl) from a country
specified in subsection (CXI),
"(3) any organization specified in subsec-
tion (c)(2) which has a standing invitation
to participate in the sessions and the work
of the General Assemb'.y of the United Na-
tions as an observer and maintains a perma-
nent office at the United Nations headquar-
ters.
"(4) any organization specified in subsec-
tion (cX2) which is not described in para-
graph (3), or
"(5) any foreign mission (as defined in sec-
tion 202(4)) of a country specified in subsec-
tion (cXl),
shall be limited to the municipal city limits
of the city to which such organization or
mission is located, except that for purposes
of travel between missions of a country,
direct access shall be permitted to the form
airports serviced by major air carriers pro-
viding interstate or interstate service.
"(b) SPECIAL RULE FOR WASHINGTON, DIs-
TRICT OF COLuwaIA.-For purposes of para-
graphs (4) and (5) of subsection (a). the
metropolitan area of Washington, District
of Columbia, is that portion of the area
which is encircled by interstate route 495 on
the west and 95 on the east, (commonly re-
ferred to as the 'Beltway').
"(c) COUNTRIES AM ORGANIZATIONS TO
WHICH Rrsnucrlolt Armres.-
"(1) The countries referred to in subsec-
tion (a) are Afghanistan, the Czechoslovak
Socialist Republic, the Democratic People's
Republic of Korea, the German Democratic
Republic, the Hungarian People's Republic,
Iran, Libya, the Mongolian People's Repub-
lic, Nicaragua, the People's Democratic Re-
public of Yemen, the People's Republic of
Bulgaria the People's Republic of China,
the Polish People's Republic, the Republic
of Cuba, the Socialist Republic of Romania,
the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, and the
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (inc)ud-
ing the Byelorussian S.SR. and the Ukraini-
an S.S.R.).
"(2) The organizations referred to in sub-
section (a)(i) are the African National Con-
gress, the Palestine Liberation Organiza-
tion, and the South West Africa People's
Organization.
"(d) WalvsR.-The Secretary of State,
after consultation with the Director of Cen-
tral Intelligence and the Director of the
Federal Bureau of Investigation may waive
the restrictions in subsection (a) if the Sec-
retary determines that the national security
and foreign policy interests of the United
States require that such restrictions be
waived.
Mr. SWINDALL (during the read-
ing). Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous
consent that the amendment be con-
sidered as read and printed in the
RECORD.
The CHAIRMAN. is there objection
to the request of tht gentleman from
Georgia?
There was no ob?ect ...
ask tinanlmos `' t that [ray
amendment be considered with modifi-
cations which are st tile desk and
which the majority and the minority
have already seen.
The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will
report the modifications.
The Clerk read as follows:
Modifications to the amendment offered
by Mr. SwxNDAIS, Page 3, line 8, strike
"Syria,'
Page 3, line 15. strike "Attorney General
of the United States" and Insert "Secretary
of State, after consultation with the Direc-
tor of Central Intelligence and the Director
of the Federal Bureau of Investigation".
Page 3, tine 16, after "subsection (a)".
strike the balance of line 16 and the lan-
guage through line 23 and insert "if the Sec-
retary determines that".
Page 3, line 23, strike the dash, and on
line 24 strike "(1)".
Page 4, line 1, after "waived", insert a
period and question mark and delete the
balance of line I and the ensuing language
through line 21.
Mr. SWINDALL (during the read-
ing). Mr. Chairman. I ask unanimous
consent that the modifications be con-
sidered as read and printed in the
R)tco)zn.
The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection
to the request of the gentleman from
Georgia?
Mr. WEISS. Mr. Chairman, I object.
I have not been able to hear the
amendment.
The CHAIRMAN.. Objection is
heard.
The business of the committee
cannot continue unless we have better
order.
PARLIANOWTARY INQUIRY
Mr. MICA. Mr. Chairman, I have a
parliamentary inquiry-, -
The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman
will state it.
Mr. MICA. Mr. Chairman, I would
like to know If the situation is correct
as I have stated it.
We had a vote prior to the quorum
call on the en bloc amendments. The
en bloc amendments were approved,
but there was a quorum call and a pos-
sible call for a recorded vote. After the
quorum call, there was a decision not
to request a recorded vote, so we are
now moving on in regular order for
amendments, with amendments to this
bill.
An amendment has been offered.
and there has been an objection raised
as to whether or not the amendment
would be accepted at this time pending
the quorum in the House; is that cor-
rect?
The CHAIRMAN. That is correct.
And the objection was raised on the
basis that the gentleman from New
York could not hear the unanimous-
consent request of the gentleman from
Georgia to dispense with the reading
of his proposed modification of his
pending amendment.
Mr. WEISS. Mr. Chairman, I could
riot hear. anti so I did not know what
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? Lne request of the gentleman w metropolitan area of Washington, District ed the Soviets to read over a i1
would appreciate it if the gentle of Columbia, is that portion of the area ton coded me
would restate his unanimous consent which is encircled by interstate route 495 on In addition to Othat, we e ~ `r
request. the west and 95 on the east (commonly re.
The CHAIRMAN. The Chair under- ferred to as the 'Beltway'). lions of dollars each year for FBI );6r-
stands that the "(c) COUNTRIES AND ORGANIZATIONS To veillance of these individuals who are
gentleman made a WHICH RESTRICTION APPLIES.- spying here. One of the reasons It
unanimous consent request, and the "(1) The countries referred to in subsec- costs so much is that they are limited
gentleman from New York reserved tion (a) are Afghanistan, the Czechoslovak under current law to only a 25-mile
the right to object. Socialist Republic, the Democratic People's radius. Others are literally restricted
Mr. WEISS. I did, yes, Mr. Chair- Republic of Korea, the German Democratic
man. Republic, the Hungarian People's Republic, in no fashion whatsoever.
The CHAIRMAN. The Chair will Iran, Libya, the Mongolian People's Repub. According to the Senate Intelligence
again try to achieve order in the lit Nicaragua, the People's Democratic Re. Committee, up to one-quarter of the
Chamber. public of Yemen, the People's Republic of Soviet and Soviet bloc diplomats and
The Chair recognizes the gentleman Bulgaria, h the
Peples People's
Republic. Republic employees are KGB. Let one me read just
of th re-
from
from Georgia to restate his unani- of Cuba, the Socialist Republic of Romania, ports of h Senate n, one of the r, Mr. e-
request. the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, and the pO O the Senate Intelligence COm
Mr. SWINDALL. Mr, Chairman, my Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (Includ- mittee.
unanimous consent request is that my ing the Byelorussian S.S.R. and the Ukrainl- It states that "The Soviet presence
amendment be considered with modifi- an S.S.R.). in the U.N. Secretariat is comprised of
cations at the desk which the majority (2) The organizations referred to in sub- one-fourth of the Soviets that are
and the minority have already seen. I section (a)(1) are the African National Con- KGB or co-opted by the KGB and
gross, the Paiesu Liberation opza?
have an amendment which I have lion, and the South th West Africa Pe People`s GRU. All Soviets in the Secretariat
modified, and that modification is cur- Organization. must respond to KGB requests for as-
rently at the desk. It has been distrib- "(d) WAIvER.-The Secretary of State, sistance. The Soviet intelligence serv-
uted literally 48 hours ago. after consultation with the Director of Cen- ices use their U.N. assignments to col-
Mr. WEISS. Mr. Chairman, on that tral Intelligence and the Director of the lect information on U.N. activities; to
basis M, I withdraw my Chairman, Bureau of Investigation determines spot, assess, and recruit agents; to sup-
The CHAIRMAN. o there objection the national security and foreign policy in- port worldwide intelligence operations,
to the request of the gentleman from such restrict ons be waives require that and to collect scientific and ec the
Georgia? 1ca1 information of value to to thThere was no objection. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman U.S.S.R." According to the FBI, U.N.-
The te s no the amendment, as mods- from Georgia [Mr. SWINDALLI is recog- based Soviet intelligence officers are
fled, Is as of nized for 5 minutes in support of his assisted by the intelligence services of
amendment. the East Bloc European Soviet satel-
Amendment offered by Mr. SWINDALL, as Mr. SWINDALL. Mr. Chairman, the lites.
modified: Page 27, after line 13, add the fol- purpose of my amendment, simply It is these nations that we are under
loving stated, is to limit spying low 137. TRAVEL RESTRt(.T10NS WITH RF `PEAT TO within the my amendment going to slap travel re-
CERTAIN FOREIGN MISSIONS AND borders of the United States. It does strictions upon. With the exception of
FOREIGN ORGANIZATIONS IN THE. so by limiting travel within the t7nitPrl _ .-
(a) LcPOSrTIOP or RESTRICTIONS.-The the United Nations missions tothe countries can travel up to 25 miles
State Department Basic Authorities Act of U.N. and the U.N. Secretariat's office away from a city.
1956 (as amended by section 128) is amend- located in New York and foreign diplo- Let me give an example of what that
ed by adding at the end of title 11 (22 U.S.C. mats of the foreign embassies and con- entails. These East Bloc diplomats are
4301 et seq.; commonly referred to as the sulates located in major cities, Includ- not subject to the closed-area restrie-
"Foreign Missions Act") the following: ing Washin
gton bons that the United States sect no-
`SEC. 216. TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS WITH RESPECT ,, New York, Los P
TO CERTAIN FOREIGN MISSIONS AND Angeles, San Francisco, and Chicago, tally places on the military of the le-
So-
FOREIGN ORGANIZATIONS IN THE among many others. viols. Thus In just 3 hours they can le-
UNrraD STATES- -- - The purpose of this amendment, as I gaily drive to Fort Dix military reser-
"(a) TRAVEL REsTatcrloNs.-The travel of stated, is to address a situation that is vation near Browns Mill, NJ, operating
any individual while in the United States, not new to the American people, but out of New York, or to the submarine
other than a national or permanent resident certainly in the last several
alien of the United States, who is one of the years we construction facility at Groton, CT.
personnel of- have heard a great deal more about To make matters worse, the Hungar-
"(1) an international organization defined the problems presented by the Soviets tans and the Romanians are currently
in section 209(b)(1), and Soviet bloc countries spying under no restrictions whatsoever,
"(2) an official mission to an organization within our borders. In short, they use They are not even under the 25-mile
defined in section 209(b)(1) from a country foreign diplomats for spy purposes. restriction. This is a serious oversight
specified in subsection tc)(1). That alone has cost us millions. if not in our own intelligence.
"(3) any organization specified in subsec- billions of dollars in losses and dam- The purpose of this amendment
Lion (c)(2) which has a standing invitation ages to U.S. military programs and would be to expand the number of re-
to participate in the session and the work of na-
the General Assembly of the United Nations tional security. SLriCted countries to include East Ger-
as an observer and maintains a permanent For example, from 1980 to 1981 Lt. many, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Bulgar--
office at the United Nations headquarters, Christopher Cooke, Deputy Com- ia, Hungary, Romania, Cuba, Nicara-
"(4) any organization specified in subsec- mander of the Air Force Titan missile gua, and a list of others and to expand
tion (cx2) which is not described in Para- crew, passed classified information to the number of organizations to include
graph (3). or the Soviets on United States strategic at least the PLO, SWAPO, and the
"(5) any foreign mission (as defined in sec- missile capabilities. In 1984 Thomas ANC.
tion 202(4)) of a counts)' specified in subsec- Cavanaugh, an engineer for the Nor- The restriction that we have placed
Lion (e)(l), throp Corp., tried to sell Stealth tech- at Washington, DC, if this amendment
shall be limited to the municipal city limits nology to the Soviet that cost literally is adopted, would be basically within
of the city In which such organization or a million dollars per hour in Stealth the Beltway. In New York it would be
mission is located, except that for purposes research. From 1979 to 1981 James a restriction to the five-borough area.
of travel between missions of a country, Harper sold Minuteman missile tech- Elsea, here it would be the statutory
direct access shall be permitted to and from
airports serviced by major air carriers pro- nology to Polish intelligence authori- city limits
viding interstate or intrastate service. ties. More recently, John Walker and In essence, Mr. Chairman, by adopt-
-(b) SPECIAL RULE FOP ~L'ASHINCTON, DIS- Jerry Whitworth passed cryptographic trig this amendment we could save
TAICI Or COLU:iSiA.-For purposes O' para. material to the Soviets on United ourselves Inil;ion, of dollars it. coun.-
graphs (4) and t5; of Subsection (a), the States naval communications, This en- tersucteillar;ee ttia` we nor, expend
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for the FBI by bringing down the
amount of broad geographic area
which they must observe and keep sur-
veillance upon from a 25-mile radius to
roughly a statutory city limit radius,
and in the case of Washington, DC,
the beltway.
The CHAIRMAN. The time of the
gentleman from Georgia (Mr. SwtN-
DALL] has expired.
(By unanimous consent, Mr. SwiN-
DALL was allowed to proceed for 20 ad-
ditional seconds.)
Mr. SWINDALL. Mr. Chairman, the
other aspect of this bill is that it
would save us billions and billions of
dollars with respect to what we lose to
the Soviet Union in stolen technology.
Lastly, I would say that there is a
concern that we would be retaliated
against by some of the East Bloc coun-
tries, and I would say that we have so
much more to protect than do the
East Bloc countries that that is a
small price to pay for the American
people.
Mr. MICA. Mr. Chairman, I rise in
opposition to this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I do not want to take
too much time on this matter, but I do
want to say that I understand that my
colleague, the gentlewoman from
Maine [Ms. SxowE], will also oppose
the amendment. It is not that we do
not have any interest in controlling
and, where necessary, to restrict the
movements of diplomats in the United
States. We have tried to assess the
impact of this amendment. The com-
mittee has talked directly with the
CIA and with our own intelligence
community. The basic problem with
the way this piece of legislation is
drafted is that ultimately we will win
only the first move.
We restrict the movements of for-
eign diplomats in New York City and
in Washington. But, at the same time,
American diplomats, today enjoy such
free access in a number of East Bloc
countries we would lose 80 percent of
the freedom we have under this
amendment.
As chairman of the subcommittee-
and I might ask my ranking minority
member to work with me on this-we
might be able to fashion legislation
that would accomplish this goal. But
we do have concerns about the amend-
ment offered today without the bene-
fit of any further study. 1 would
accept the view of the Director of the
CIA that the ultimate problem with
this amendment, as worded, is that we
would end up briefly restricting some
foreign diplomats and mission officials
in the United States. an action which
will trigger a reprisal under the guise
of reciprocity aimed against American
diplomats around the world. As I have
said we would lose about 80 percent of
the time.
Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Chair-
man, will the gentleman. yield'
Mr. MICA. I yield to the gentlema.-,
from Indiana.
MI,-, B'.-RTON of Ir:diar"a
man, let me get this straight. I think
the gentleman just said that this
would restrict the mobility of our
agents in Communist bloc countries or
that there might be retaliatory action
that might be taken and it would be to
the detriment of the United States.
I wish the gentleman would elabo-
rate on or illuminate that statement a
little bit more for me. It seems to me
that we have beaucoup Communist
bloc agents in this country who are
able to go almost anywhere. at will,
and I do not see how it is going to be
counterproductive if we restrict them
just a little bit. If there is some kind of
a point that I am missing here, I
would like to know more about It.
Mr. MICA. Mr. Chairman, let me
again just state this: I do not have the
numbers at hand, but the committee
has consulted with the Director of the
CIA and our intelligence community.
First, the U.S. Government has al-
ready moved recently to tighten re-
strictions on Soviets traveling in the
United States.
Second, American diplomats
throughout the world are given pretty
free latitude in a number of countries,
including some East bloc countries, to
travel. Yet, if we enforce this amend-
ment, we have been told it is almost a
certainty that countries affected will
take total reciprocal action on this
matter, and if it is applied to the num-
bers worldwide, we will lose in 80 per-
cent of the benefits we enjoy today.
Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Chair-
man, if I might follow up on that, my
colleague who is sponsoring the
amendment indicated that 25 percent
of the Soviet bloc employees at the
U.N. are KGB agents. They are Com-
munist spies. Is the gentleman saying
that the people who are going to be
hampered, our American citizens
around the world, are also spies?
Mr. MICA. Mr. Chairman, I disagree
with the gentleman and I disagree
with that number. I would say that it
is probably a higher number. But that
does not change the net result. If we
restrict the movement of foreign diplo-
mats the way the amendment pro-
poses, we seriously run the risk of
having the countries named in the
amendment take similar steps against
our people. In 80 percent of the cases,
we will lose an advantage we have en-
joyed for some time. What I would
like to do is work it out so that at least
we have a parity, that we restrict in
such a manner that will properly take
into account our interests overseas. If
not, we will ultimately end up having
some of our numbers restricted three
times more.
Mr. BERMAN. Mr. Chairman, will
the gentleman yield?
Mr. MICA. I yield to the gentleman
from California.
Mr. BERMAN. Mr. Chairman, I
thank the gentleman for yielding. I
appreciate the gentleman's comments,
and I agree with them.
I would like to ask the gentleman a
few questions. Am I correct in my un-
derstanding that the 'Rdministrati0h
opposes this amendment?
Mr. MICA. Yes. The Director of the
CIA have asked us to strongly oppose
this because, although they agree with
the intent, they continue to say that
as carried out on a second and third
move. we would lose, as I said. 80 per-
cent of the time.
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Mr. BERMAN. I appreciate knowing
and being sure of that opposition by
the administration to this amendment.
Am I also correct in my understand-
ing that this administration and this
Secretary of State could do every
single thing provided for in this
amendment under Executive discre-
tion, if he thought it were wise to do
so?
Mr. MICA. Absolutely.
The CHAIRMAN. The time of the
gentleman from Florida has expired.
(At the request of Mr. BERmAN, and
by unanimous consent, Mr. MICA was
allowed to proceed for 3 additional
minutes.)
Mr. MICA. The administration at
this time can do everything in this
amendment under existing authority.
Under this amendment, there would
be no mandatory enforcement because
the Secretary does have a waiver. So
that in essence, the only thing that we
might care to do beyond this is micro-
manage. We do not have the ability
right now. Maybe we need it in the
future.
Mr. BERMAN. Mr. Chairman, if the
gentleman will yield further, I have
several more questions.
It is also my understanding that
based on a very clear record. evidence
from the historical record, these types
of restrictions would naturally result
in similar restrictions within the coun-
tries who they are imposed upon: is
that correct?
Mr. MICA. That is correct.
Mr. BERMAN. And would not those
kinds of restrictions in those countries
limit the ability of our embassies and
our diplomats in those countries to
deal with contacting and outreach to
people who are victims of the kinds of
human rights violations and oppres-
sion and who need help in facilitating
emigration and other kinds of assist-
ance to this country
Mr. MICA. Absolutely, and without
a doubt we could name the list
throughout the East bloc, of countries
where we do have access to numerous
groups from the refuseniks on down
the line that could be restricted, under
the amendment.
Mr. BERMAN. I also note that the
People's Republic of China is one of
the countries mentioned on this list.
Would my understanding of the re-
strictions imposes by this amendment,
which tttt- administration opposes, be
that the commercia: sttaches of the
Chinr:se Embassy in thu. country seek-
ine tC' v'ori: wit:: An e:1cak: exporter:
on permitted exportable technologies
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from visiting the plants and the corpo- Soviet employees have been expelled. fr
spans om traditonal Of urnann e rift rate headquarters in these companies They Aerations
that fell outside the limited geograph- whateverei working data hard
can to most sophisticated electronicdevices. Eveee
be imposed b3 ? s pY tin , of sensitive information is vulnerable,
is Mr. areas MICA. that
The would
these restrictions? on the United States ei every op including classified Government lnforma-
portunity. We need to do everythny. Lion, emerging technological breakthroughs,
gentleman is abso- we possibly can to curtail that activit and private financial transacU
somepns, Foreign
lutely correct, but I just want to re I think the gentleman from Georgia intelligence services also sometimes target
state this. I do not oppose this amend. has a very fine amendment, one that the politinfl process, aee
ment simply because the admtnistra- everybody in this body ought to em- Lion and influence. ~e both informs.
tion opposes it or because the CIA op- brace If they are really going to try to We art not only talking about t talking
poses it, but because In the long run, get at the problems we have been individual spies,
na
and I have said it several times, I will facing regarding spying and the tre about the recruitment crui
that are ta occurs ki as a
say it again, we will lose in 80 percent inendous loss of intelligence data that result of our giving them, under diplo.
of the cases. has been going to the Soviet Union, matic immunity, free
I would like to structure this, if we In addition to that, we have lost an entire country in some
at2 this
cases to
get the opportunity in the future, so awful lot of technology that has un- mile radius that is loosely enforced in
that we get some kind of parity. dermined the security ,
Mr. BM of the United the fins, case.
Mr. Chairman. I States. For no other reason, we ought to be
thank the gentleman. Now, one more point that I would concerned in terms of the financial
Ms. SNOWS. Mr. Chairman, will the like to make, and then I will yield to impact in saying to the FBI and to the
gentleman yield? the gentleman from Georgia. members of the Judiciary Committee,
the Mr. MICA. I am happy to yield to The gentleman from Florida indicat- I can tell you they are already under-
gentlewoman from Maine. ed that this affects commercial at- financed, that it is ludicrous to stand
his. SNOWS. Mr. Chairman, I thank tachls. I would like to point out that it here today and leave them with that
the gentleman for yielding. does not affect commercial attaches. It large an area for surveillance, when we
I must correct the gentleman's state- only affects diplomats. I think that could narrow the focus down to the
ment on the fact that I am in opposi- point needs to be made very clear. statutory city limits Inside the beltway
tion to this amendment. I did have Mr. SWINDALL. Mr. Chairman, will in Washington and the five borough
concerns with the original amendment the gentleman yield?
of the gentleman from Georgia, which Mr. BURTON of Indiana. I am area of New York.
would have restricted the ability of happy to yield to my colleague, the Mr. MICA. Mr. Chairman, will the
the Secretary and discretion in impos- gentleman from Georgia. Mr. SWIND Bent
Mr. SWINyield?
these restrictions; but as I under- Mr. SWINDAI~I,. Mr. Chairman, I tlernan ALL. I yield to the gen-
In
stand it now, g t ese re the gentl under- would just like briefly to respond by Mr. from Florida.
Ing thamendment, reading
provides a waives s saying, first and foremost, the waiver jet t make it MICA. clear Mr. Chairman, let
e
wstates that the Secretary of provision here addresses virtually , I only not oppose the
h
which hic aster consultation with the Di- every concern that the gentleman gsth of this. The g to concern I hnd-
rector t the CIntelligence from California and the m that re that has to wpass aiver re that
Agenry, as well as Central nt Federal Bureau from Florida have already stated; but went here er everybody tsays t has a waiver here that
Agency, y, well th make his ureau what I think needs to be addressed cise, the they are going the tale
exer-
of esas to whether or not deter- the with respect to the comment of the Department.
the FBI and the State
Sshould impose restrictions. gentleman from Florida about micro- Department. ittee
As Secretary o know in the course of the management is this. It is this Congress Also I would out that We agmmwith
cthat
sub- that bears the responsibility of appro-
concerned about this. We agree with
he have held
Arkady the sub- priations. It is this Congress that everything that. has been a aid t hea
enko rings co committee i tawe indicated have the held scope by thande subLhe bears the responsibility of the $2 tril- gentleman The CIiAI from Indom Indiana The has e sexxpirt the
nature of the Sovie sloe personnel lion debt that we currently are passing gentled
naru e at the United bloc pes, nel along to our children and our grand- (By unanimous coned t r eed or
gaged in intelligence gathering. en _ children, and part of that debt has 2 Indiana was allowed to proceed for
I do not thii;l:, obviously, that we been accumulated because we have to 2 Mr. MICA. Mr. Chairman, want t.o hamper the ability s of the awe spend more on defense in order to ba- MICA. M Chairman, will the
want of State in imposing do research to pass along, inad- gentleman yield further?
stric'_ior_ because we could invite reci-
posing these re- vertently but nonet._e)ess it is still Mg BURTON of l Florida.
a. I yield to
procity in ethese cau countries, and obvi- being passed along to the Soviet the gentleman from oriosh it would sake it ifs, an for us Union, because through our own igno- Mr. MICA. We agree, Mr. Chairman.
to conduct our awn acti difficult or s ranee. naivete, or whatever, we allow with everything that has been said
thins file flexibility own invites the literally hundreds of KGB and spy. ac- about the problem. We have, as I
port of the leeaibets of ithe nvites
sup- be- tivities to occur under our very noses, opened up and indicated, been advised
cause of
does provide that discretion. and what makes this that much more that the way the language is drafted,
Mr. it does provide I that d. cr Chair- I think naive is that we are a free soci- it is ultimately going to hurt us. BURTO
Mr. roar:. I move to sInde the requisite e*`A. Once these folks get outside of I would just point out, too, that be-
number of words, the restricted area, they basically can use we had such concern on this, we
I
think the gentlewoman makes a do whatever they choose. If you go to adopted a provision earlier in this bill
ve good the There is a makes
It any of the Eastern-bloc countries, 2 days ago, in H.R. 2410, that calls for
was not mnt. e e colleague o It they do not really need any type of studied moves on reciprocity and asks
the not mentioned nt of the aisle. these restrictions anyway, because you the State Department and all the
The other Secretary ido the aisl after consul- cannot sneeze without someone being agencies to join together to figure out
raTh the CIA State, and the aware of what you are doing. Certain- the puzzle so that when all the pieces
tat can waive this if ly that is not the case in this country. come together, we do not lose; but I do
FBI. feel it is nee provision if the; We would not want it to be the case. not disagree at all with the that
essary; but let us gel a; prints tfig-
the real
the rissue. I think, and that is that One last point. A 1986 October have been made. I have seen the fig-
the world in the last 16 years, Senate Intelligence report makes the ures. We have heard the testimon?
700
around Soviet agents have been expelled ears following statement: about the a .gents coerating in thi-
from various countries. That does no., r; n.,
They hosiile intelligence threat to the country.
include other Communist-bloc coun- Ile d State: is severe, and ft confronts the I just want to me:'( ii; E Foy teat we
txieF
mcl Government and the American people with can best be helpfu:, s; 1 h?,." nc: quar-
serious challenges. The threat rel with what has been said. but a
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little bit about the way it is being
done.
As I indicated, and as the gentleman
said, it does have the waiver which the
gentleman offered and which we ac-
cepted, and that waiver, we have been
told, is all going to be exercised. Once
it is exercised, everything that we say
is already in law anyhow.
Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Chair-
man, let me just end up by saying that
in the last couple of days it was
brought out by the gentleman from
California [Mr. HUNTER] that it is
going to cost billions of dollars because
of the loss of technology to the Soviet
Union regarding the sale of high tech-
nology to the Soviets as far as subma-
rines are concerned for us to bring our
defenses up to snuff. Anything that
this body can do to curtail espionage
and Soviet activity of the KGB in this
country should be done, and this legis-
lation that we have in hand today I
think is an excellent amendment. I
commend the gentleman from Georgia
for introducing it and I hope every-
body in this body will embrace it and
support it.
Mr. SMITH of Florida. Mr. Chair-
man, I move to strike the requisite
number of words.
Mr. Chairman, I want to commend
the gentleman who proposed the
amendment for what I consider to be
basically an attempt to address a prob-
lem that all of us are concerned about.
The problem is that, unfortunately,
there has not really been a good
answer up to the point and this
amendment really does not go too far
beyond what has already been
thought about, and I am not saying
that in the negative sense. It means
that we still have a problem address-
ing this issue and we do not know ex-
actly what to do.
My colleagues ought to be aware
that this administration has already
moved in certain areas to foreclose
movement of certain of the organiza-
tions which would be affected, so we
are talking about travel restrictions
that alreay are being imposed on ter-
rorists groups, like the PLO. They
have already been imposed on Libya
and tnev have already been imposed
on other countries which are already
on the list that the gentleman from
Georgia has provided in the amend-
ment.
But the problem of the amendment
arises not in the intent. but in the exe-
cution. As has been said by both the
gentleman from Florida and the gen-
tlewoman from Maine and others,
there is a problern here with limiting
access of U.S. personnel overseas. That
is a very, very big problem. It should
no, be dev:nt)a' ed.
LE', me explain to you why-, and I
will be reading from a backErou-:c
paper from one of our intell:cVnc.
agen, ie: I we ~,ld b, ha;-,y 'tc
to anyone 1-t. It i} not b;._
i_ any more p, .... .
is 1,_1,:-,v : nC, -. 2..C s. ,.
is not appropriate. If anyone on the
other side would like to see it, I would
be more than happy to show it to you.
But let me read:
c. The Swindall amendment, if enacted,
would affect the Soviet and NSWP military
attaches, and those of the other countries
identified, very little. Last year, Soviet at-
taches made only seven trips outside metro-
politan Washington. Destinations included:
New York City: West Point: Florida via Ala-
bama, North Carolina, Georgia: Los Angeles
and Anaheim. A Czechoslovak attache made
the only trip by an NSWP attache. Thus,
one can deduce that their work does not
oblige extensive travel. In contract, for U.S.
military attaches, travel in the Warsaw Pact
and other countries above is the most sign-
fiicant issue in their ability to carry out
their missions. In a closed society, the at-
taches must travel to observe and report on
military activities. In 1986. a significant part
of their work effort required travel outside
the capital area.
d. In the event that travel restrictions are
imposed for foreign personnel in the U.S.,
we foresee a strong possibility of reciprocal
actions against our attaches that would di-
minish and restrict their work. For example,
reciprocal actions might include closing
major areas of military significance, re-
stricting personnel to capital city or consul-
ar offices. At the same time, similar restric-
tions would not seriously affect foreign at-
taches because they rely very little on travel
for their purposes. The net loss, then, would
fall on the U.S. attaches.
Let me further continue. The
amendment is written in such a fash-
ion as to possibly also cover personnel
in the mission of our allies. Thus, we
might jeopardize their support for our
efforts. With the exception of the
U.S.S.R., right now United States dip-
lomats may generally travel freely in
all of the countries named in that
amendment.
While the gentleman wants to do a
noble thing, invoking this travel re-
striction could result in our being re-
stricted in almost every country that is
mentioned when we are not restricted
now.
There are serious consequences. Not
that the gentleman's amendment is -
wrongheaded-it is not. The problem
is that we have attempted to deal with
this-and the executive branch-the
Secretary of State and the Depart-
ment of State-already has the capa-
bility to do that. under the current
law-on a piecemeal basis so as not to
have a blanket retaliation. And it is im-
portant for us not to have that retalia-
tion, because we do the kind of work
that is being done in those countries
only because of our free access, even
though we are fearful that they have
the right to travel in this country.
Let me just say also that there is no
enforcement mechanism in this
amendment, so the reality is that-
there would be, unfortunately for its,
nc kicker in the event that they vio-
1,:;. it
Now. with the reference to the gen-
t'Finan from Indiana and his assertion
at ti is only cover, diplomats. let me
s .~E to Inc gentleman that a read-
er. of .r( statute would probaciv sug-
Tile F('rE ih0_ ;Ors.
Act and the definition of foreign mis-
lions, and the personnel therein, is
much broader than the gentleman
would suggest, and I doubt very seri-
ously whether we want to get into the
area that has been explored by the
gentleman from California here with
references to commercial and other
missions and all of the other ramifica-
tions.
I again reiterate, the gentleman
from Georgia is not addressing a prob-
lem that does not exist. It is a real, le-
gitimate problem. The problem that
we have had for more than just the
recent past is that we really have not
found a satisfactory solution, and we
really have not with this amendment
found any better way than we have al-
ready reviewed over the course of
years, and that is why we should
oppose this amendment, but force the
administration to continue to do what
it has been doing, and that is close
down and restrict travel when the cir-
cumstances warrant it, as they have in
the past.
The CHAIRMAN. The time of the
gentleman from Florida [Mr. SMITE]
has expired.
(On request of Mr. SwINDALU and by
unanimous consent, Mr. SMITH of
Florida was allowed to proceed for 2
additional minutes.)
Mr. SWINDALL. Mr. Chairman, will
the gentleman yield for a question and
a colloquy?
Mr. SMITH of Florida. I yield to the
gentleman from Georgia.
Mr. SWINDALL. I thank the gentle-
man for yielding.
Mr. Chairman, the question is: How
many U.N. Secretariat's offices and
U.N. missions are contained in either
the Soviet Union or the Soviet-bloc
countries?
Mr. SMITH of Florida. It is obvious
that there are very few, and mostly be-
cause the headquarters of the United
Nations is here, and most of the work
that they do is not in the Soviet
Union.
Mr. SWINDALL. That is my whole
point. That is the focal point, among
other areas, of this legislation. It is no
accident that we have much of the
spying activity emanating out of of-
fices that are unique to this country
because we allow, if you will, the
United Nations to base in our country.
There is no counterpart upon which
retaliatory measures could be taken,
first.
Second, I think that it is very impor-
tant to recognize that today Libya and
Libya alone has any type of restric-
tions of the magnitude that we suggest
here. Certainly we are not naive
enough to believE that Libya is the
only country that posE a threat to
our own intelligence in this country,
our own t-ech --, ? in this country,
yet that is of to ~.'O
today-,e a-,
threat if you a?e it mal , tnc.c
of restnctoc__
to the others.
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Mr. SMITH of Florida. The gentle- entfal document that should not reading the newspapers, you have not
man is not exactly correct. Travel re- have even been known to exist. We re- been studying up on what is really
strictions have been issued against ported it to the FBI which ultimately goin on.
others than the Libyans and foreign took the action of expelling this ind)- g
diplomats. There are radius require- victual from the United States, and he ^ 1120
ments on a number of other organza- went back to the Soviet Union. But i think this is a fairly straightfor-
tions and others represented. that is an incident which we were able
The problem Is that we have basical- to bring to the attention of the U.S. Warr amendment. It would not unduly
ly unimpeded access in most countries Government. Had we not brought it to restrict the warkers , the employees of
around the world except for the Soviet the attention of the U.S. Government, the missions and the embassies from
Union. obviously it would not have been u Y i dome what they onduct di? are here
c-
The CHAIRMAN. The time of the known. tiv n t to city in hiclo they a are
in the city in which they are
gentleman from Florida [Mr. SMZrnJ The point is that we do not know assigned.
has expired. the extent to which these individuals asieh.
(By
(By unanimous consent, Mr. SMrrH are engaged In Intelligence-gathering For that reasoncommended I think the gentle-
Florida was allowed to proceed for I operations. So I think that the travel man should be
amendment. and for offer-
additional minute.) restrictions the gentleman from Geor- fog the amendment. and v,e should
Mr. SMITH of Florida. The reality is gia is attempting to impose are reason vote on it in a verg posit 't fa,l ion.
that every one of our organizations, able because the Secretary will have Mr. HALL of Texas. Mr. Chairman,
both the administration. the Secretary the discretion to make decisions to the will the gentleman, yield?
of State, and our intelligence-gather- contrary. Mr. BARTON of Texas. I yield to
ing organizations that are responsible Mr. SMITH of Florida. Mr. Chair- the gentleman from Texas.
for what we want them to do overseas, man, it is a very, very good argument Mr. HALL of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I
what is our role overseas, indicate, and that the gentlewoman makes, except thank the gentleman for yielding and
I read from one of their background for one thing. The gentlewoman dis- of course I rise in support of the
papers, that they do not want a blare- counts or in fact does not acknowledge amendment.
ket restriction imposed. nor do they at all that the ability to do so already I think the major test is not what
want. to get into a battle which would exists within the Department of State the President thinks of this amend-
ultimately reduce their capability of through the executive capability of ment nor the Secretary of State, but
traveling overseas. They gave some in- the President. There is no reason, as a what the amendment people think of
dication of what the travel was of matter of fact, to pass this amend- It, and I really challenge each Member
some of the attaches in the area that nment., because this could be done al- of this body to go among your districts
they deal with, and it has not been ready. and ask or make the inquiry as to
that extensive. If you are going then to blanket re- whether or not they are In favor of al-
I am confident that this administra- strict and then have them opt out or lowing foreign agents from the Soviet
tion will continue to clamp down on be allowed out by waiver, you have Union, Its satellites and client states to
the travel when It appears that our sent a very chilling signal which our conduct the host of subversive activi-
rules are being violated or our security own experts. our own intelligence- ties that they are free to conduct
is being impaired. We all agree that gathering network, says is the wrong today, I think that is the major test.
they are probably sending people here thing to do. And in this particular case If my colleagues remember about 4
who are wolves in sheep's clothing. I personally would urge my colleagues years ago we had a bill up relating to
The problem is that we have some of to listen to the experts on this particu
our own agenda to run, and this has a lar issue. This is where their expertise the United Nations, giving an opportu-
very threatening aspect to it which lies, and this is where they know what nity to have the U.N. hosted every
the experts say should not be imple- they need to do. would other shoyearw, by tuediffe dffe Of icoursen that
mented. It is really that simple. Mr. BARTON of Texas. Mr. Chair- r rence a the life
at
The CHAIRMAN. The time of the man, I move to strike the requisite style, the security, the privation that
from Florida [Mr. SMrrx] number of words. think known byre the over there. I
has expired. Mr. Chairman. I will not take the tthose are the tests we need, should addre&,;
(On request of Ms. SNOWE and by entire amount of time. We have let fact I th also at think
about we 45 years ago a o today the
unanimous consent. Mr. SMITH of the rhetoric I think become a little bit. go fleet limped
Ya-
Florida was allowed to speak for 2 ad- hotter than the actual amendment at mamoto and the Japanese fleet limped
ditional minutes.) hand. I would like to refocus it., if I back from the Battle of Midway that
Ms. SNOWS. Mr. Chairman, will the could. left the Pacific safe. And I think about
gentleman yield? What the gentleman from Georgia is 270 years ago today a fellow named
Mr. SMITH of Florida. I yield to the attempting to do is to rein in some of Napoleon met his Waterloo. I think
gentlewoman from Maine. the Commune, countries and their those two are significant in that this is
Ms. SNORE. I than;::=7, the gentleman allies from roaming around this coup- an effort to restrict and to protect this
for yielding. try. He proposed adding eight coun- country. And to follow on that with
Mr. Chairman, I think that the gen- tries or organ izations-the African Na- What George Washington said when
tleman is overlooking one point, and tional Congress, China, Hungar, he addressed the Congress and he said
that is that the Secretary does have Niccaragua. Romania, South Yemen, when you go through the augean sta-
discretion as to whether or not impos- the Southwest Africa People's Organi- bles of government, put the Americans
ing these travel restrictions would zation, and Syria-to the list of re- on guard, and I think that also in-
invite reciprocity that ultimately strict.ed nations or organizations as far eludes protecting this area.
would endanger our national security as traveling in this country. Surely this is a step in the right di-
interests and restrict our activities in I think that that is a pretty straight, rection. Surely we want to mandate
other countries. forward amendment. The gentleman tighter travel restrictions.
Second, the gentleman mentions a from Florida I believe made reference I really and truly challenge every
report in which personnE I of the to the fact that the Soviet attaches Member to ask himself and to ask his
Soviet Union have only rcquesred on did not make hut seven trips outside of constituents, and I would Sal' that not
seven specific o e ores to t-a el out._ Washington. Well, they did not have 9 out of 10 but 99 out of 100 would be
side their travel area. I mention to the to. They had all these other folks run- in favor of this amendment, and I
gentleman that those were the only ning around loose, and the fact- of the thank the gentleman for yieldin,^
seven occasio tun 9 atc e=.-are of P1 i et if you he no; believe Mr.
ARMEY. Mr. C,.a r a:c, t 4:;f
Several years of a KGB age r, work- Iris: there i s a terror is, network and gentleman yield?
ing for the. Unity) h do approach(d vc,zl h ' n0 be. itet f Thal these or 'artiza- Mr. BARTON of 'l"ce'.au I y
a member o i : ono",: a ?rt_, n' in cra:';. L .'en you have noe becit the gentleman from Texas.
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Mr. ARMEY. Mr. Chairman, I than ing argument
that there may be times
,
the gentleman for yielding. I will very in which it would be better for us to
quickly make three points. not exercise this restraint on travel,
I am in support of the amendment. I the gentleman from Georgia has pro-
think It is a judicious thing to do and vided a waiver here that allows the
necessary thing to do. Secretary of State, in consultation
In that regard, let me remind the with the Director of the CIA, to exer-
Members of this body it was not but cise that waiver, so It need not neces-
about 3 years ago that when a Soviet sarily be enforced rigorously. But to
guard discovered our Major Nicholson the extent that it is deemed to be In
in Eastern Germany where the Soviet our national interest, the Secretary
guard suspected he ought not be, he has the authority to do that, and that
fired on and shot the major. The is far better than giving a Soviet KGB
major then was left to lay and die agent a bullet for the benefit of the
while his driver was restrained from doubt.
going to his aid by Soviet guards in Mr. SWINDALL. Mr. Chairman, will
East Germany. the gentleman yield?
There has been and there is today Mr. BARTON of Texas. I yield to
some doubt whether or not the major the gentleman from Georgia.
was spying, was not spying, whatever. Mr. SWINDALL. Mr. Chairman, I
But in East Germany, Soviet guards would just like to briefly address sev-
do not give Americans the benefit of eral of the points the gentleman from
the doubt; they give them a bullet. Florida [Mr. SMITBI made which I
I might also mention that I made a think are slightly confusing to the
recent visit to Mount Alto with a de- record.
fector from the Soviet Union who had First of all, with respect to the
been a KGB agent in the Soviet status of individual countries that are
Union. limited to the same restrictions as
The CHAIRMAN. The time of the Libya, there are no others. Libya and
gentleman from Texas [Mr. BARTON] Libya alone is limited to the five-bor-
has expired. ough area of New York City.
(On request of Mr. ARMEY and by It is true that there are other na-
unanimous consent, Mr. BARTON of tions that have a 25-mile radius re-
Texas was allowed to proceed for 2 ad- striction, nations that are equally as
ditional minutes.) dangerous I think as Libya, nations
Mr. ARMEY. Mr. Chairman, will the like the Soviet Union, the North Kore-
gentleman yield? ans, the Iranians who are limited.
Mr. BARTON of Texas. I am happy The CHAIRMAN. The time of the
to continue to yield to the gentleman gentleman from Texas [Mr. BARTON)
from Texas. has again expired.
Mr. ARMEY. Mr. Chairman, the (By unanimous consent Mr. BARTON
gentleman who had defected as a of Texas was allowed to proceed for 2
KGB agent from the Soviet Union additional minutes.)
told me that the Soviet Union will Mr. SWINDALL. Mr. Chairman, will
generally have up to 30 percent of the gentleman yield?
their diplomatic personnel who will be Mr. BARTON of Texas. I continue
KGB agents in the United States and to yield to the gentleman from Geor-
elsewhere. When I asked him about gia. -
other Eastern Europe2_n-bloc nations, Mr. SWINDALL. But there are
he said the ratio was about the same. other nations that have absolutely no
Finally, let me mention for those radius restrictions whatsoever. These
who do make an argument, and I include China, Bulgaria, East Germa-
think a very interesting and corvine- ny, Poland, Czechoslavak.ia. Nica_ragua.
a'nd Cuba. I think that is a significant
number of countries that have no such
restrictions.
Finally. I would suggest that there is
a substantial difference between these
types of restrictions placed and then
require the Secretary of State to make
waivers, as opposed to giving blanket,
full unlimited accessibility to our
country, and then saying it must be re-
stricted on a case by case basis. The re-
ality is we have too lax and it is time
that this Congress stood in and said
these are the restrictions, we want to
be reasonable, and if you think that
there ought to be waivers. tell us what
those waivers are, why you think, for
example, Nicaragua or China or East.
Germany or Poland deserves to have
absolutely no restrictions whatsoever.
Mr. BARTON of Texas. Mr. Chair-
man.. I yield back the balance of my
time.
Mr_ SWINDALL. W. Chairman, I include the
following materials from the State Department
and a former American inteplgence of the CIA
to be inserted into the RECORD:
1968 ANNUAL REPORT ON THE IMPLEMENTA-
TION OF THE FOREIGN Mrssross Acv or
1982, As AMENDED (P.L. 97-241), APRIL 1987
COUNTRIES SUBJECT TO OFM TRAVEL
RESTRICTIONS
Embassies and Consulates: Afghanistan,
Bulgaria, Cuban Interests Section, Czecho.
slovakia, German Democratic Republic,
Poland, USSR.
UN Missions and Secretariat Officials. Af-
ghanistan, Bulgaria, Byelorussia, Cuba,
Czechoslovakia, German Democratic Re-
public, Iran,' Libya,' Mongolia,' North
Korea,' Palestine Liberation Organization,'
Poland, Ukraine, USSR, Vietnam.
Miscellaneous: Bulgarian Office of Com-
merical Counselor, Bulgarian Travel Office
in New York, Czechoslovak Tourist Office
in New York (CEDOK), Czechoslovak Fi-
nancial Office In New York (OMNI-
TRADE). Czechoslovak Commerical Section
in Neu York, German Democratic Republic
Commerical Affairs Office. Polish Tourist
Office in New York (ORBIS), Polish Office
of Commerical Counselor in Nev YorL.
USSR International Cotton Advisory Board.
Soviet news media personnel.
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ON CAPITALIST FLESHPOTS contrast to their Polish and Csech col- MODIriCATION Or Aasn!D>tW!'orrum IT MR.
There is & long-standing myth that Soviet leagues). Most of them are heavy eaters and DOANAN or CALIVIDIWIA
officials stationed in bourgeois capitals are drinkers, and New York is a good place for Mr. DORNAN of California. Mr.
bound to succumb to the temptations of ma- both. Most excursions to New York restau- Chairman. I ask unanimous consent to
terial comforts and joys not available at rants are made by paired Couples, congenial modify the amendment as agreed to
home. Give them a chance-and they'll and Russian-speaking foursomes in which
choose our side. A congressman in the late all can relax. They favor medium-priced res. previously with the majority side of
1960s could not be convinced that $100,000 taurants-even when they are taking along the aisle.
on the table and the assurance of a prosper- a "foreigner" on the KGB expense account. The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection
ous life in the West was not a ready formula Many reportedly are reluctant to go home to the modification?
for Inducing them to defect: "What's wrong after their tours, but they do-with full There was no objection.
with these guys anyway?" trunks. The text of the amendment, as
The KGB man stationed in the West Reports on their sex life are hard to come modified, is as follows
today has a good life. No jump in the Soviet by. for the least that can be expected from
standard of living during the last thirty an operations officer is to keep secret his Amendment, as modified, offered by Mr.
years has been greater than that of the own love affairs. From what we have DORNAN of California: Page 55 after line 25,
KGB official assigned to New York, London, learned around the globe, they are not re- add the following new section:
or Bonn. strained by a puritan sexual ethic only re- SFC M. MEMBERSHIP Or BYELORUSSIA AND THE
In the late forties most Soviet officials in eently dissolving in Western society, but UKRAINE IN THE UNITED NATIONS.
European capitals led a compound or bar- their fornication and adulteries are, for the The President shall conduct & review of
racks life. They lived and worked in tightly most part, confined to the Soviet colony. A whether the United States should introduce
controlled premises. Each was required to man can sleep with his colleague's wife in the General Assembly of the United Na-
sign out and in for any outside foray. Even a much more securely than he can have an tions a resolution to cease the recognition of
KGB officer had to account for his actions affair with an outside woman, yet most af- Byelorussia and the Ukraine as members of
whenever he left the "office." Officials went fairs on record are with single women. Some the United Nations, and shall, within 90
out to shop only in groups of at least three overt homosexuals are kept on the KGB days of enactment of this Act, report his
or more, with one man responsible for their payroll for their obvious operational attrac- recommendation thereon to the Congress.
proper conduct and safe return. tions. Being overt, they cannot be black-
With few exceptions up to Stalin's death, mailed for their homosexuality. Mr. MICA. Mr. Chairman, will the
the family of each official was kept in Sex and money are the main handles for gentleman yield?
Moscow as hostage for his good behavior. the KGB's recruitment of foreigners. Nei- Mr. DORNAN of California. I am
Yet even the KGB man was required to be ther is an effective weapon against it happy to yield to the gentleman from
celibate. No in-house adultry or affairs There is a relevant footnote to this failure Florida.
within the Soviet community were tolerat- to be sucked in by the fleshpots Mr. MICA. Mr. Chairman, ed. They were puritanical in the narrowest One notable trait of the ethnic Russian I would
sense and were required to set an example case officer in New York I had already been like to point out that the gentleman
of good Bolshevik behavior. scandals were impressed with in New Delhi: he takes enor- has an amendment that would require
out mous pride in being a Russian (not simply a certain actions of the General Assem-
Sexual liaisons outside the community Soviet citizen). There is in him a powerful bly of the U.N. or the U.S. Govern-
were forbidden, not so much for fear of and deep ethnic, almost religious faith that ment to take in that General Assem-
blackmail (sexual entrapment in London or lies deeper than the patriotic loyalty to a bly. The amendment has been modi-
New York, Moscow knew, was not a common state. The Russian is a man neither of the fied to create a report that would
practice as in Moscow), but for fear of being West nor of the East: Russia lies uniquely
compromised. Girls in bars or brothels were, between the two, and it is to this narrower come to the Congress to give us infor-
in the KGB view, agents of the British or nationalism that many Russians, most of mation on this action.. and we do
American security services, and could easily them only one or two generations removed accept that modification.
rifle the pockets of their coats. identify from their villages, are instinctively 'bound. Mr. DORNAN of California. Mr.
them, and trap them Into indiscreet bebav- There Is a broader sense of pride: his society Chairman, just briefly, rdr the edifica-
lor on future visits. is working, for It is making its mark in the Lion of my colleagues, and for anyone
the a first Soviet asorry lwt they out a ter world; and his service is working, the best who may be following the proceedings war had eanfng women, cooks and eyrserv as
in s service in the world (now that KGB officers on the House floor today, in 1945
Strictly self-sufficient community. A notori- no longer come to a lethal end as under Stalin). when the United Nations was first
ous fight among the wives took place in New formed out of the meetings in San
York many years ago on the issue of who The CHAIRMAN. The question is on Francisco, that term "United Nations"
would clean up after the October Revolu- the amendment offered by the gentle- had been used all during the war in a
tion celebration. man from Georgia [Mr. SWUNDALLI, as less formal way, Just united nations of
All that has changed. modified. the world band together for freedom
Today the private life of a KGB officer in The amendment, as modified, was
New York is like that of a middle-class agreed
against the Axis powers. When the 51
to.
American. He can eat out at a good local original nations were finally brought
restaurant, see movies and plays, rent a AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. DORNAN Or together in this great dream of hope,
summer cottage in Long Beach, go on pic- CALIFORNIA to and behold, as a 12-year-old child I
nice in the parks or the countryside, spend Mr. DORNAN of Califorina. Mr. discover that the Soviet Union has
the day at Coney Island-and he can shop. Chairman, I offer an amendment. three votes in the General Assembly.
The Soviet official in bourgeois capitals is The Clerk read as follows:
an inveterate bargain shopper. He scours Suddenly there are these two so-called
the retail stores and makes friends with Amendment offered by Mr. DORNAN of republics out of the 15 in the Soviet
shopkeepers. He sometimes takes along a California Page 55. after line 25, add the Union-actually there were 16 then.
bottle of vodka as a present, and expects a following new. section: Firiland had not yet managed to
Quid pro Quo.' a five to ten per cent discount BE( t9S MEMBERSHIP IN THE UNITED NA AND THE escape to a state of freedom and au-
He favors electronic items, hardware, shirts, UKRAINE THE NATIONS
forty records at a clip. An indispenible item States Ambassador to the United Nations to sia, sometimes called White Russia,
for his wife is a fur coat to take home to introduce in the General Assembly of the and the Ukraine, which had been ter.
Moscow. United Nations a resolution to cease the rec- ribly crushed with purges in the 1930's
There is at least one case a year in Man- ognition of Byelorussia and the Ukraine as where millions upon millions of
hattan in which a Soviet official is caught members of the United Nations. Ukraine farmers were deliberately
shoplifting-and almost always at low-price Mr. DORNAN of California (during starved, a country that really deserved
stores. the reading). Mr. Chairman, I ask to be independent, The Ukraine, the
There are no import restrictions on Soviet unanimous consent that the amend- breadbasket of Europe, was instead
officia hinge of asognmenl..ave or perm - ment be considered as read and print- crushed inside the Communist organi-
major source of scarce goods for the black a ed in the RECORD. zation of socialists, so-called repub?ics.
market, though some have become record The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection and suddenly the Soviet Union had
collectors for their own pleasure. to the request of the gentleman from not only its permanent seat along witi-.
Only a negligible numb- of SD. -t cff: California? four other nations, and all of then:
cers have any serious interest in the arts tin There was no objection. freedom loving because Communist
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