CONVERSATION(Sanitized)OF LAC REGARDING U-2R EXPORT PROPOSAL ON 6 MAY 1966

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• Sequence Number: 14
• Publication Date: May 10, 1966
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of LAC regarding U-2R Export Proposal on 6 May 1966
1. As a follow-up to my conversation of 29 April with Kelly Johnson,
I visited Lockheed in Burbank the morning.of 6 May in company with
to review the proposal drawn together by
in response to my oral requirement of Kelly.
2. I was furnished with a complete set of Vuegraphs on the U-2R
export proposal b together with four copies of a package
proposal wherein LAC would assume systems responsibility for pulling
together aircraft, engines, ' subsystems, and people together with spare
parts. The only missing cost ingredients were those from P&W for
engines to be submitted by Ion 11 May and a proposal for
a trailerized self-sustaining processing capability from Eastman-Kodak
which will probably have to wait until the week of 15 May when
returns from the Far East.
3. The cost figures were accumulated on the basis of a possible five
export detachment capability. This number was apparently pulled out of
thin air by Kelly, since I did not mention it in the course of my talks with
him. For the most part the total cost figure can be extrapolated in linear
fashion if the number is less than five, or more than that amount. Should,
it be determined that it is better to export the existing U-2 aircraft, the
cost need only be reduced in the Lockheed portion by per aircraft 25X1
for the newly produced U-2R. - I was also handed a rather good series of
color charts in book form on the U-2R itself, as well as a scale model of
the bird which Kelly wanted to have see. 25X1
4. The only significant difference between the Lockheed assumptions
and those which I had discussed with Kelly outside of the actual number of
bases was that LAC proposes that the initial pilot flight training and crew
chief orientation be done at Edwards AFB at our detachment there, rather
than overseas in the country which might purchase the aircraft. Kelly
hinges this to the availability of the U-2R trainer aircraft, two of which are
proposed to be included in the new buy. On the whole I find it difficult to
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argue against this idea for two reasons: (1) a two-seater trainer for
pilot indoctrination is always desirable in an airplane with critical
performance characteristics, and (Z) training of indigenous pilots and
senior crew personnel at Edwards would permit standardization to a
degree that seems highly desirable in light of the limited number of
aircraft proposed for each unit. Another unique feature of Kelly's plan
is that he is proposing the establishment of certain sub-depots for handling
spare parts resupply,,Xy commercial aircraft.
supply leve at each detachment. It was agreed that Lockheed Aircraft
Service would be the best overseas cover even though their exists an
organization known as Lockheed Aircraft International. We have no prior
history of doing business with LAI which is primarily oriented toward
sale and service of airline aircraft and/or military plans in certain
countries. Once we have received our inputs from P&W and E-K we will
be in a position to develop a total package which we should then re-
coordinate with LAC. I am hoping that we can clear this up by the end
of the month.
Acting Director of Special~A ~tivites
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