SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT

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---- -_ Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 ~(~ ~~c,v~ s 1 .. OLL 85-0666/3 3 April 1985 MEMORAniDUM FOR: Deputy Director for Administration FROM: VIA: SUBJECT: Chief, Liaison Division Supplemental Retirement 1. As you know, the House Post Office/Civil Service Committee is holding hearings this month on a supplemental retir~~ent system for new employees. The Agency is invited to testify on 25 April. I attended the first two hearings in the series of five. I sent you the statements for the record from the 2 April hearing and there is nothing more to add. There are several items from the 3 April hearing that will be of interest to you. (The witness list is attached.) PANEL OF FEDERAL PERSONNEL OFFICIALS 2. Chairman William D. Ford (D., MI) clearly stated at the beginning and ehd of this session that the panel members (see attached list) were speaking as personnel specialists and were there to share their perceptions; they ,had not been invited to comment an Administration or Congressional proposals, to speak at the policy level, or to defend the Administration's position. The Chairman, therefore, made sure that the panelists were not in the ackward position of defending Administration policy. 3. The panelists did not have prepared introductory statements. The Chairman asked a number of questions, having each panelists respond in turn. The questions and responses are as follow: -"How man civilian em to ees are in our or anization, and how man are covered b Soc al Secur t t at s to ask how many people have you h red s nce 1 Dec. 1983) Each panelist was prepared to and did give the numbers. -"What are you advising the new hires now?" (The Chairman wanted to know the impact on the morale of new hires and on the recruitment of new employees, given the unceztainty of their retirement.) Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Each panelist responded that the retirement question had not had a negative impact on their recruitment efforts and'that the new employees were more interested in pay, ben~its in general, and in career paths. (Later in the session the difficulties in recruiting for the hard-to-fill positions (ie. highly skilled scientists and engineers) were cited. -"What has been our recen! ex erience with voluntary retirement The Chairman wanted to know whether employees were retiring earlier because of fear over changes in retirenent. He explained that he was asking because, "I have received a lot of letters and people tell me wherever I go, Federal Employees and Foreign Service Officers, that they are very concerned. They ask me, "Do you think that I ought to retire before they screw up my retirement?"" (The responses indicated that the panelists were not prepared for this question, that they wanted to say that there had been a negative impact on retention but didn't have the facts, and that they preferred to talk about the total benefit package and losing people to private industry.) -Cipolia (DoD) stated that he could not verify the negative impact and that in late 1984 there was no appreciable change in the retirement rate. -Chen (NIH) stated that he did not have the exact numbers, only estimates broken down by the departments. -Riley (Agriculture) said that he could not verify an appreciable decrease or~increase in retirement, but that in December they had twice the expected number of retirements which might have been attributable to concern over retirement. -Grant (NASA) said that his organi2ation-had an increase in the number of people retiring, but that the increase was not dramatic and he could not say with any assurance whether that was affected by retirement issues. -Meyer (Food and Drug) stated that he had no recent data but he had plenty of people leaving for better pay and benefits in private industry. -Weiss (Treasury) said that his people knew that if there were adverse changes enacted, they could put in their Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 papers and quickly leave before they were hurt. He said that retirements from Treasury did not reflect talk about cut' backs . 4. Congressman Ford then moved to a discussion of the "pay cap" with a question to Grant about NASAs "Your redecessor came to us a cou le ears a o about the serious pro lens caused y the pay cap,-- s t still a problem? Mr. Grant made a very strong statement in the affirmative. He said that, "any adverse actions by Congress or the Administration hurt us slot. We have very marketable people at the senior level and all levels. We are losing people who go out and get two and sometimes two and one-half times more salary. Changes, like an increase in the retirement age, will simply cause people to leave." Grant then described the highly skilled workforce at Nasa. The other responses to the "pay cap" question were: -Chen (NIH) said that, "our problem in recruiting and retaining at the higher levels is that government salaries are falling behind. Salary is the primary reason for turn downs. The 'special physician' pay helps us. One retirement option we feel would help us more is already employed by the Uniformed Services of Health Sciences; it is a portable system used at most US Universities and Colleges and professional organizations." (The TIAA System) -Riley (Agriculture) said that, "scientists at the higher grades are not a problem because they did not expect them to stay anyway." ~` -Meyer (Food and Drug) said that the FDA did lose a certain percentage of highly skilled people to private industry, but he was not sure that the government could ever adjust the pay cap to be competitive because the people left for reasons in addition to more competitive pay. -Weiss (Treasury) stated that his department, "had slot of turnover of people at the higher grades, such as bank examiners, but that it was useful to send the government-trained people out to the private sector to make things operate better." -Cipolla (DoD) remarked that the total benefit package was not competitive with the private sector and that it was very difficult to recruit people for the hard-to-fill categories, such as engineers and scientists; he said that that was not the case with the other job categories. Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 5. Congressman Don Young (R-AK), the only other Member in attendance, asked a few questions about turnover. He apparently was trying to state the Administration's case regaylding quit rates. Mr. Grant (NASA) closed the topic by stating that the Government failed to account for the number of Federal employees who constantly move from one Federal job to another and that if the government did record these changes in employment, the quit rates for private industry and government would be much closer. (Recently, OPM Director Donald J. Devine argued that Federal pay should be determined by quit ratesz when many people in a given job category resign, then the pay in that particular category should be increased in order to retain people.) 6. The final issue raised with this panel was pay comparability between the private and Federal sector. Ford stated that there was one thing he had learned after 21 years on this Committee, that pay comparability was impossible. "We can't do it. It is like steering a ship by looking at the waves. There are so many changing circumstances that the pendulum swings; first you have a glut of a certain skill, then a shortage." He cited examples like DoD, which has such a variety of job classifications that many have no equivalent in the private sector, and the example of NASA, which can have a major program cancelled and cause a surplus of people in disciplines that fotmerly were hard to find. TESTIMONY OF NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF RETIRED FEDERAL EM LO S 7. A copy of the statement for the record is attached. The views of this Association are of interest because they signal where the major employee groups may be headed on this issue. To that end, the following points are worth notings -Want a three-tiered system, including Social Security, a defined benefit, and a voluntary thrift plan. (The Stevens model is an example.) -Do not want a plan with only the tax-deferred plan to supplement Social Security (The Administration's proposal is an emample) -New plan should incorporate provisions that satisfy unique circumstances of special employee groups such as air traffic controllers, firefighters and law enforcement officers. Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 -Employees currently under Civil Service should not be allowed to opt into new plan; this could endanger the current system. -Should include some degree of employee contribution (the group reasons that Federal benefits are often under political attack and if employees have a direct stake in plan's funding, it will be a source of political strength to ward off the attacks. -Include protection against inflation S. In summary, this group would support a proposal like that of Senator Ted Stevens (D-AK), and fight a proposal like that of the Administration. PANEL OF STATE GOVERNMENT PENSION ADMINISTRATORS 9. The purpose for this session was to collect information on alternative designs. Each panelist described their respective systems and responded to questions related to integration formulas, administrative proceedures, and the impact on the workforce of multi-tiered systems in which all employees do not receive the same benefits. 10. The next House hearings on supplemental retirement are scheduled for 23, 25 and 30 Apri]r~, Distribution: 1 - DDA w/att 1 - D/OP w/att 1 - DD/OP w/att 1 - DD/EBBS/OP w/att 1 - DD/PACE/OP w/att 1 - D/OLL w/att 1 - DD/OLL w/att 1 - C/LEG/OLL w/att i - C/LD/OLL w/att 1 - C/HL LD OLL w/att 1 - GC w/att 1 - u ect w/att 1 - rono w/o att 1 - d w/att 1 - OLL Chrono w/o att ,~.~~, Sanitized Copy_Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 ~~uust ,af ~~r~seti~~ ~Ianuaitta ~n ~ff`tu ~ ~I' ' ~~~zbite ~. ~.~. Zos~s COMMITTEE ON POST OFFICE AND CIVIL SERVICE CONTINUATION OF HEARINGS ON SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT PLAN Wednesday, April 3, 1985 WITNESS LIST 1. PANEL OF FEDERAL PERSONNEL OFFICIALS: Paul T. Weiss, Director, Office of Personnel, Department of the Treasury; Gerald F. Meyer, Associate Commissioner for Management and Operations,~Food and Drug Administration; Carl E. Grant, Director,~Personnel Programs Division, National Aeronautics and Space Administration; William J. Riley, Jr., Director of Personnel, Department of Agriculture; Philip S. Chen, Jr., Associate Director for Intramural Affairs, National Institutes of Health; and Frank P. Cipolla, Director, Personnel Management, Office of Civilian Personnel Policy and Requirements, Department of Defense. m;,~ Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 2- 2. PAINEL OF STATE GOVERNMENT PENSION ADMINISTRATORS: Bennett Shaver, Executive Director, Maryland State Retirement and Pension System; Richard Beers, Director, Michigan Bureau of Retirement Syste?s, Department of Management and Budget; and John McManaman, Assistant Deputy Comptroller, New York State Employees Retirement System. 3. Lud Andolsek, President, National Association of Retired Federal Employees Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF 'f'tETIRED FEDERAL EMPLOYEES tsl3 N[W NAMrfMlllt Avc.. N.W., WAiMINOTON. D.C. 2Q4Sd A11sA COD[ (202) 2~4-OOJ2 STATEMENT OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF RETIRED FEDERAL EMPLOYEES BEFORE THB " HOUSE COMMITTEE ON POST OFFICE AND CIVIL SERVICE ON THE DESIGN OF A SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT PROGRAM FOR FEDERAL EMPLOYEES HIRED AFTER 1983 WEDNESDAY, APRIL 3, 1985 I am L. J. "Lud" Andolsek, President of the National Association of Retired Federal Employees (NARFE). It is pleasure to appear before this Committee to assist in the construction of a supplemental retirement program for new employees. Although the benefits of this program will not directly affect our members who are already retired, we feel privileged to provide you with a look at this important matter through the eyes of age. We, sore than anyone else, recognize the legitimate purposes of a retirement system. As former government sanagers, we understand the need to provide a sensible progression into retirement for older workers so that new generations can take over the reins. As current retirees we, more than others, recognize the income replacement and security needs of those who have completed their careers as productive wage earners, and earned the right to retire with security. As patriotic citizens we agree With the legitimate need for a social safety net established in our national policies for half a century, which is noel often achieved through retirement programs provided by employers for the productive members of our society and their families. Champion of Retired Federal Emplo~~ces ~~ Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Finally, a? those who have felt the ebb and flow of political winds enrich and then threaten our dignity and security, we recognize the need to insulate this new program as much as ~iossible from political pressures. This means neither hiding it nor putting it totally beyond the reach of political leaders. Nhat it does mean is constructing a plan which is. consistent with private sector practices while recognizing the unique needs and mission of a unique employer -- the government. It means creating a program which both employees and the public can understand and view as fair; and it means guaranteeing the program's fiscal health through an unwavering commitment by the U. S. government itself. Mr. Chairman, in my testimony today I will take a few minutes to describe the objectives that NARFE regards as crucial to the design of a federal retirement program to supplement Social Security. I will then turn to the specific issues mentioned in your letter of invitation to this hearing and comment on each of those issues. NARFE believes it is important to design a new plan that will satisfy several mayor goals: o It should provide an adequate retirement income for the new employees across the ,full spectrum of fob classifications and salary grades; o It should be a program that will (be) fair to new hires, the S million employees and annuitants still under the current Civil Service Retirement System, and the public; It should be funded in a manner that will protect the financial integrity of the current system into the future; ,~,^ ,~ Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 It should meet the federal govenment's continuing need to attract and retain a quality workforce that can execute the many different functions of government at the high performance level to which the American taxpayer is entitled. Row do we translate these goals into-a supplemental retirement program? One part of the answer is to keep those elements of the current system that have been most important in meeting these objectives in the past. That means having a total benefit including Social Security that replaces a substantial portion of the final salary for the long-tern employee. It means maintaining a flexible retirement age policy that permits the long-term employee to elect retirement with an adequate income after 30 years of service. It means protecting all retirees and survivors against the devastating consequences of inflation in old age. But the new system has to include new elements as well. These new elements should reflect tie rdle that Social Security will play in the lives .~ of the new hires and their families; the new system should take advantage of recent private-sector innovations to encourage personal retirement saving; and the new system should not unduly penalize employees who find it necessary to interrupt their government careers before reaching retirement age. Our organization has devoted a great deal of thought to this matter over the past two years. Although we remain flexible on many of the specific features, we have developed a viewpoint on the direction we think the system design should take. First, we have concluded that a three-tier retirement system is needed. The first tier, Social Security, will provide the basic floor of protection. Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 The second tier should be a supplemental defined benefit plan with benefits tied to the fiigh-three average salary and years of service. These two tiers will prrnride employees with a retirement income level that can be predicted in advance of reaching retirement age `and that should provide an adequate retirement replacement income for those employees with modest salaries. For those who want a greater retirement income than these first two tiers can provide, a third tier is needed. This third tier should be a voluntary thrift plan to which employees are encouraged to contribute through tax-deferred status and agency matching contributions on their behalf. Second, we think that an expanded group life insurance program makes sense as an element of survivor protection in this system. Group life could be provided to all new hires relatively cheaply and would became an important adjunct to Social Security survivor benefits and elective surviving spouse annuities. Third, we feel strongly that this system for new hires should be just that - a system for new hires. To allow those. now under Civil Service Retirement to opt into this new system, as some have discussed, could endanger the current retirement system. Congress would have to amend the Social Security Act to allow optional individual participation in Social Security since such optional participation by individuals is not now, nor has it ever been, allowed under law. Given the current climate, we feel it is simply unrealistic to believe that the Congress will allow individual civil servants to decide whether or not it is to their personal benefit to participate in Social Security. If Congress was forced to address this issue, it more likely would choose to mandate Social Security coverage for major additional categories of federal and postal employees. This political Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0-'"~^-' Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 employees. This political risk outweighs any advantages that might accrue from giving current employees an option. Mow, Mr. Chairman, I will turn to the particular questions you raised in your letter. Cost of a Supplemental Retirement System When Congress acted in 1983 to extend Social Security coverage to new federal and postal employees, it did so as a part of a comprehensive measure to avoid an impending insolvency in the Social Security trust funds. This legislation did not bear at all on the question of whether the Civil Service Retirement System costs too much or too little. In fact, House action on that 1983 bill was accompanied by an excellent statement of support for the existing level of Civil Service Retirement benefits signed by the distinguished Chairman of this Committee and two of his colleagues -- the Speaker of the House and the Chairman of the House Committee on Ways and Means. Given that background, add the need to develop a retirement system for new hires that is fair both to them and to employees and retirees under the existing system, the design of the supplemental should be undertaken on a cost- neutral basis. By that we mean that the cost to government of the supplementary system should be close to that of the current system. By "coat" we mean the share of payroll needed to pay for the future benefits that newly entering workers will someday receive. It is critical to the quality of the federal work force for Congress to ignore the Administration's call for a cheaper retirement program. The excellent study done for this Committee by Hay Associates demonstrates that federal employees lag well behind their private-sector counterparts when it comes to overall compensation. Only the value of the federal retirement plan keeps the compensation gap from being truly horrendous. To enact a bargain-basement :. . ~, Sanitized_Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 retirement plan for new hires as OR! Director Donald Devine advocates will 7 make it impossible for federal agencies to compete with the top corporations in recruiting skilled employees. You know the old saying: "You get what you pay for." It is crucial that Congress recognizes that a federal retirement system is not dust another spending program for budgeteers to whack away at each year. A retirement system ie a part of the price we pay for good employees. We need a system for new hires that assists in the recruitment and retention of such employees. Given NARFE's belief that within a total compensation framework the cost of the current system is legitimate, we believe this cost factor should be retained in the new program. We recognize, however, that the technical ability of the experts to measure the equivalence of two quite different retirement programs may not permit a fine-tuning of a plan design that will achieve exact equality. The Congressional Research Service has recently published an estimate that the current retirement system costs the government 24.7 percent of payroll. They estimate that the federal cost of social security coverage for federal employees is 6.1 percent of payroll. These two figures imply that a supplemental plan should cost 18.6 percent of payroll so that, when added to the 6.1 percent for Social Security, it would equal the current system's cost. However, all of these estimates are very sensitive to assumptions about future pay increases, interest rates, and so on. The Social Security estimate even depends on Congress leaving in place the payroll tax hikes now scheduled for future years. I think that the supplemental plan's cost should be close to that target level of 18.6 percent of payroll, but we should not pretend that an exact equivalence can be measured to everyone's satisfaction. Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Relating Supplemental Benefits to Social Security 'l~-e Social Security program is a program that provides retirement income; but it is also a program designed to improve the adequacy of income in old age. Thus, unlike a typical staff retirement plan that pays annuities that replace the same proportion of salary for all employees with the same length of service, Social Security benefits replace more of a person's wages at the lower end of the wage scale. This "tilt" in the Social Security benefit formula poses a problem for retirement plan designers, since an employer must decide whether to design the staff retirement plan in a way that offsets the "tilt" to some degree. This issue has led to the development of s complex set of federal rules for ways in which retirement plans can be integrated with Social Security. A plan that fails to comply with those rules is denied a tax exemption for the earnings of the plan's assets. One policy implication ~C~at emerges from these integration rules is that a company plan cannot fully offset the relative advantage Social Security gives to lower-Wage employees. The federal government should abide by this policy in designing the supplemental plan for its own employees. A national policy aimed at giving the lower-wage worker a break should .not be completely overturned by employers, whether private or public. Additionally, should the public employer be allowed to ignore the rules it places on private employers, an unfair and politically volatile situation is created. Should the federal plan at least partially offset the Social Security "tilt"? There are two approaches used by private plans that do this: (1) the offset method, in which a fraction of the Social Security benefit _ Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 . Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 is deducted from the full entitlement under the employer plan; and (2) the step-rate method, in which employees at the higher salary levels accrue benefits from the employer plan at a faster rate than do lower-paid employees. These integration methods make sense in a large corporation, where the variation in salary is enormous, ranging from minimum age jobs on up to six- figure executive positions. In a federal plan, these integration methods make little sense because the salary range is much narrower and the salary concentration of employees at the time of retirement is narrower still. M offset or step-rate formula would have relatively little impact on overall wage-replacement rates in a federal system compared to a non-integrated add-on formula. Mr. Chairman, I would like to submit a chart for the hearing record that illustrates this point. The chart shows an example of an add-on plan, an offset plan, and a step-rate plan that replace the same amount of salary after 30 years of service. When you add Social Security, you get a total wage replacement rate that is higher for the $15,000 worker than for the more highly paid workers. The offset or step-rate plans narrow this differential compared to the add-on plan, but the degree to which it is narrowed is not that great. At the lower end of the salary scale, the offset plan yields a total replacement rate of 60.9 percent, which is 4.3 percentage points less than for the non-integrated add-on plan. The step-rate plan does not differ from the add-on plan below the salary level at which the accrual rate changes, which is $39,600 in this example. ~::--~ ~=~? Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 ~---=~~~~~~=~~~-~: Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 ~t the aS60,000 salary level, the integrated plans both raise the replacement rate compared to the add-on plan, but only by 4.8 points for the offset plan and 5.9 points for the step-rate plan. In summary, a supplement that is integrated with Social Security would do little to make wage replacement rates more uniform across the government's salary range; but integration would increase the plan's complexity and make it harder to gain understanding and acceptance. Atax-deferred thrift plan, which would benefit all employees but especially highly paid employees, could accomplish the objective of integration without the drawbacks. Employee Contributions In the private sector, employees do not contribute to defined benefit plans. All contributions are made by the employer, which amounts to a tax subsidy for private employees and employers since this employer-provided payment is not subject to taxation as individual income, and employers may write off their retirement expenses as a cost of doing business. In the public sector, employees have traditionally contributed to their retirement plans. Since pay and benefits of public employees are often under political attack, the employees' having a direct stake in the plan's funding has been an important source of political strength in warding off these attacks. For this reason, some degree of employee contributions should continue in any new supplemental plan. Another reason to require employee contributions is to maintain parity with the current system to the extent possible. Establishing a 1.3 percent employee contribution rate would achieve parity for employees earning less Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 than~t~ie Social Security maximum taxable wage base ($39,600 this year). The combined rate for Social Security and the new plan would be 8.35 percent, which is equivalent to the Civil Service Retirement and Medicare contributions that federal and postal employees currently pay. In 1986 and 1987, the 8.35 percent combined rate will rise to 8.45 percent due to a Medicare tax increase. In 1988, the Social Security tax will increase, causing the total contribution rate for the new hires system to rise to 8.81 percent while the current system's combined rate would stay at 8.45 percent. As such divergence occurs and as Congress may act in the future to change the Social Security and Medicare tax rates, the Committee might want to consider automatically adjusting the contribution rate to avoid development of a substantial difference in the total rates for the two systems. I would like to submit a chart for the record that shows how this divergence in rates would occur over time. Financing the System In regard to the overall financing of the system, we should maintain the approach now followed for the current system. Funds should flow into the Civil Service Retirement Trust Fund from the employee, from the agency, and from general revenues, and benefits should be paid out by the Trust Fund. I~ihile the accountants and actuaries will want to keep track of the cost of the supplemental plan separately, its funds should not be isolated from those of the current Trust Fund. It will be important for the continued strength of Civil Service Retirement that the unity of program funding for all federal and postal employees be maintained. ..a?~.~r Sanitized Copy Approved for Release_2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 a.,,,,,,,~,.~,,,,~,.G,,,~u,~, Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 'We see no purpose in full advance funding of a federal retirement system. As the Chairsan of this Committee has often observed, the government is not about to go out of business, so there is no analogy to the need to protect benefits rights in pension plans of private businesses which can fail. Government funds should not be squirrelled away to insure against such a meaningless contingency as the government going into default. The Comoittee may want to consider limiting the need to use general revenues for the supplemental plan by relying more on agency matching contributions. Currently, the agency matches its employee's 7-percent contribution with another 7 percent. If the employee pays 1.3 percent under the supplemental plan, the agency requirement could be kept at 7 percent. There would be two advantages to doing this. First, it would make the cost to the agency of new hires and old-law employees the same. Second, it would mean that a sealler share of the supplemental system's cost is borne by general revenues transfer than is the case for the current system. Vestin The current Civil Service Retirement system has a vesting period of S years, a relatively short requirement compared to private-sector plans, which often set vesting at 10 years. It has been important historically for Civil Service to have a fairly short vesting period for at least two reasons. First, there was no Social Security coverage that could be carried along to a new job and built upon. Second, there was no thrift plan or profit-sharing plan in which an employee could build individual equity. When a civil servant left government, it was vital that he or she had some right to a federal annuity since these portable benefits available in the private sector were not available in government. ~.:~r~ Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 . Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 The vesting requirement clearly needs rethinking in designing the supplemental plan. The new hires have Social Security coverage, and the new system may well include a thrift plan. Thus, a short vesting period will not be as critical as in the past. On the. other hand, a mobile work force can be hurt by failure to vest when vesting requirements are longer than the duration of job tenure for a large proportion of employees. I do not think that the Committee would want to consider a vesting period longer than the ten years set by ERISA as a minimum standard for the private sector. On the other hand, the S-year period may not be needed in the supplemental system. Within this range, the period could be set at a particular length to meet the overall system's cost objective. Closely related to vesting is the issue of the portability of accrued benefit rights when an employee leaves the government. We urge the Committee to consider ways in which a vested employee can retain his or her benefit rights without a substantial loss in the real value as time passes and inflation takes its toll between the date of separation and the date of retirement. One possible approach would be to index accrued benefits by the amount of general federal pay increases. Another approach would be to let separating employees elect to roll their accrued benefits into a thrift plan and accrue earnings on those assets on atax-deferred basis. Special Employee Groups We understand the Committee plans to hold another hearing to discuss the special retirement situations of such groups as the air traffic controllers and federal law enforcement officers and firefighters. I will limit my remarks on this subject to one observation. The considerations which Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 led Cgpgress in the past to provide special retirement rules for these groups have not changed. Therefore, whatever the design of the supplemental plan, it should incorporate provisions that satisfy the unique circumstances of these employee groups in a manner that is-consistent with the way they have been treated under current law. Congress shouldn't reinvent the wheel, but just make sure it stays round. To conclude, Mr. Chairman, we appreciate the opportunity to testify here today. The mission which you have undertaker. will set new policy that will determine the shape of federal benefits for many years to come. It will potentially lead to changes in private-sector policies as well. NARFE wishes you well in this endeavor, and stands ready to work with you in developing a good retirement system for the post-1983 employees, while maintaining the fiscal and moral integrity of the current Civil Service Retirement System on whigh millions continue to depend. .,...~ Sanitized Copy Approved for Release_2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 ~~? Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Gross Wage-Replacement Rates Under Social Security ~ and Alternative Federal Supplemental Retirement Plans for a 62-Year-Old Retiree with 30 Years of Service 15 000 Gross wage-replacement ratesa from: Social Securityb 30.7$ Supplemental add-on planc 34.5 Total Incl. Social Security (65.2) Supplemental offset pland 30.2 Total incl. Social Security (60.9) Supplemental step-rate plane 34.5 Total incl. Social Security (65.2) Final Salary 3$ 0,000 45 000 60 000 22.38 17.0$ 12.88 34.5 34.5 34.5 (56.8) (51.5). (47.3) 34.5 37.2 39.3 (56.8) (54.2) (52.1) 34.5 36.6 40.4 (56.8) (53.6) (53.2) Notes: ~ -- aWage replacement rates. were obtained by dividing retirement benefit by final salary. b Social Security benefits were calculated using the early retirement reduction factor of 30 percent that will apply after the normal retirement age is raised to 67. The final salary (or, if lower, the taxable wage ceiling of $39,600) was used as the average indexed monthly earnings in the benefit formula. c The benefit accrual rate for this plan is 0.95 percent for each of the first ten years of service and 1.25 percent for each additional year. The final salary was used as the high-3 average salary. d A benefit accrual rate of 1.525 percent per year of service was used, reduced by 50 percent of the Social Security benefit. The final salary was used as the high-3 average salary. e A benefit accrual rate of 1.15 percent per year of service was used for salary up to the taxable wage ceiling of $39,600; above that level, a rate of 1.725 percent was used. The final salary was used as the high-3 average salary. Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0 Employee Contribution Rates under Current Civ31 Service Retirement System and Supplemental Plan for New Hires Supplemental Plan for New Hires Social Supplemental Year Security Medicare Plan Total 1985 5.7 1.35 1.3 8.35 1986 5.7 1.45 1.3 8.45 1987 5.7 1.45 1.3 8.45 1988 6.06 1.45 1.3 8.81 1989 6.06 1.45 1.3 8.81 1990 6.2 1.45 1.3 8.95 and thereafter Current System (CSRS) Year Medicare Civil Service Retirement Total 1985 1.35 7.0 8.35 1966 1.45 7.0 8.45 1987 1.45 7.0 8.45 X988 1..45 7.0 8.45 1989 1.,45 7.0 8.45 1990 and thereafter 1.45 7.0 8.45 Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2011/03/04 :CIA-RDP89-000668000300040008-0