FEEDBACK FROM SENATORS' VISIT TO MOSCOW

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• Publication Date: September 11, 1985
• Content Type: MEMO

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11 September 1985
MEMORANDUM FOR: Deputy Director for Intelligence
VIA: Director of Soviet Analysis ~I
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FROM:
Chief, Domestic Policy Division/SOVA/NIG
Deputy Chief, Strategic Issues Group/SOVA
SUBJECT: Feedback from Senators' Visit to Moscow
1. Ref our memo to you yesterday, attached is the State reporting cable
from Moscow on Gorbachev's 3 September meeting with the senators. It was not
dissemed to CIA although there is no NODIS or other limitation indicated and
EUR/SOV knows of no reason why we should not have gotten it. (C)
The following tics highlight additional
points:
-- Gorbachev: "We must act to quiet the hawks who would spoil the
prospects for our November meeting."
-- Gorbachev was ambiguous on whether discussing or banning weapons
in space was the precondition for Soviet presentation of the
"most radical" proposals.
-- The promised radical proposals will cover "both strategic and
medium-range weapons."
-- Gorbachev's remarks on verification of R&D come through a bit
more specifically in the cable: "It is possible to verify the
research stage. We therefore emphasize the need for a ban on the
design stage of research."
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-- Gorbachev: "We regard the US position at the Geneva negotiations
as unacceptable."
-- Gorbachev on policy changes needed to bring about better
US-Soviet relations: "I do not deny that we (i.e. the USSR as
well as the US) could take some steps."
-- Zagladin, not Zamyatin, sat in on the Soviet side. (C)
Attachment:
As stated
cc: D/OSWR
NI0/USSR
NIO/SP
C/ACIS
OSWR/STD/PPC
OCR/USSR-EE (Economy)
OLL
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SUBJECT: Feedback from Senators' Visit to Moscow
SOVA/SIG NIG/DPD
Distribution:
Orig - Addressee
1 - D/OSWR
1 - NI0/USSR
1 - NIO/SP
1 - C/ACIS
1 - OSWR/STD/PPC
1 - OCR/USSR-EE conomy
1 - OLL
1 - D/SOVA
1 - NIG/DPD
1 - SIG File
1 - SIG Chrono
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1. ;U) INT:?ODUCTIO:: FOLLO'.;*IN REPRESENTS O:J ; B ST
EFFOT~'T TO RECONSTRUCT G'J TACHFV'S REM AR S ')U I"G HIS
TFRLE-A" D-D -: ~Lr'- OTTR MFETII'`..ITH COOEL E~Y:RD-
TF:UR(N,ONL, SFPTENI?FP' NN:E=TING `-.'AS ATTENDED 3Y CODFL
STAFFERS PUNArO AND D'4.".ATO, U.S. INTEBF~ETF? Zc?F-
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NOTE'S Of 17F N FTING, AT.TTHE COT'LL HAS NOT
SEEN T~ RESULT 'CIti Lv'.
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U) T' SO VIFT OF THE SUER, ME COUNCIL OF RATIONALITIES VOSS, EIEST
DEPUTY C' I IF UI' TLI "rSU CE\Tp c L C0;`';MI T TFF I \IF -
NATIONAL DEPARTMENT Zn;L_-.DIN. FORI- IIN P OLICY ADwIS0R
AIFKS"NDE - 4G1 NTOV. AND C'TIFF OF TJN `1FP. USA DIVISION
7F SSMFRTNY?i. TT*T'Y SAID iOTtIN -)J INJ THE TE:~3 '~Y
MEETING. END INT".0D 0 CTI0N.
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3. ;C) GORBACB?FV OPENED THE MEETING BY ASKING SENATOR
PYRr ROTj FF LIKED '-'.OSCOt+. BYRD REPLIED THAT FI LIKED
TEE CITY AND THAT iE ALSO LI QED `'IEV. sORBACHFV
A: QED IF THE DFLFGATION AT) FAD A CHANCE TO SPE ?IFV,
AND BYRD ANSiaFRFD TWAT THE DELEGATION HAT SEEN SOME
OF IT AND LIKE') 'W'HAT THEY SPW -- THE GrRFENEr Y, THE
CLEAr] STREFTS, ANT' THE HOSPITALITY OF THE PEOPLE.
GOREACHEV SAID TJAT HE ALSO LIVED KIEV AND THAT THERE
u'T RE MANY INTERESTING CITIES IN THE SOVIET UNIO .
IT IS A VAST LPND, A DIVERSE LAND, MUCH LI;F T='F UNITED
STATES. THE NORTH WAS VF?Y EF'AUTIFUL THE U R4INE
IS c COUNT?Y IN AND CF ITSELF. TiiE. CAUCAUSES APE OLD,
"OLOPF'UL, A'utD FULL OF CULTU?RE. CENTRAL ASIA PRESENTS
A DIFFERS ;T PICTURE, AS DOES THE FAR EAST. TEL[-)E ARE
PIACFS I HAVE NEVER SEEN Ti,IS VASTNESS IS 4 COMMON
FFATTJFE OF OUR TWO COUNTRIES. VASTNESS LEAVES AN
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It PA ^T ON THE NA TI O AL CF R CTFR ANT THE OJIIO0V
OF OUR TWO NATIONS. I GUISS IT IS THEREFORE T UE TO
SPY TF'.AT IN JFNiRAL '^1F HAVE MUCH IN CO`114'N. Iii; S3VIFT
UNION MORE THAN ANY OTHER NATION IS ABIF TO UADE STAND
YCUR NATION AND TO BUILD A 37IDGr TO IT. SIMILARLY,
TVF U.S. SHOULD PF A?LE TO UNDERSTAND US BFTTF _ THAN
ANYONE ELSE.
4. (C) LET ME STREET YOU ALL. IT IS A. FLEASJFY TO MEET
AND TC F'AVF AN 3PPOETUNITY TC TALC' . ITP YOU. 1 ,'ISE TO
SPY AT THE OUTSET THAT ?ELATIONS FF:T4;E.F"! OUR 'I J
NATIONS MUST M1F VIAPLE IN ALL FIELDS OF C31vI'A.CT.
FP AN"LY TOR TFF PEST FItiF OR SIX YFA.PS IT
HAS NOT PFO POSSIRLE TO '10VE 'ORt'ART, 1ND I;~ i4ANY
AEFAS TEE SITUATION F'AS A'ChSENED. RELATIONS ARE A_T
AN ALL--.MR LO':;. THERE HAS ?EFN A LITTLE HFAL:tiAY INN
THE LAST ONE OR TV'O YEARS, ?UT TOO LITTLE. IN THIS
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SI TUATION, ?q-_LI?hE";TS CA, FF~t IL-F THE MOST AC-.IVF
TIES. TITS FTOVES THAT THEY ARE ALL TE ^^0": Ii?iPJ -
TANT. IT IS FNI'IRF!LY WRONG TO CUT ALL TIES; INDEED
THIS WOULD ?E IFPES?ONSIBLE, AS I TRIED TO EXPLAIN
IN MY LONG INTERVIF'~+' WITH TIME MAGAZINE -- ANI: i DON'T
KN0IA, IF YOU HAD THE FATIE""CE TO READ ALL OF IT.
5. (C) SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, I VET v'ITF A DFLFCATION ETA.-ED
PY SPEA'ER O'NEILL. I TOLD THE DELEGATION T:IPT THE
SCVIFT LEADERSHIP HAS T.47 POLITICAL ,TILL TO EVERY
EFFORT TO NORMALIZE RELATIONS. i!,F ARE INDEED ? EPARFD
TO PCT IN THAT DIRECTION. WE MUST 'MOVE OUR RELATIONS
OFF DEAD CENTER. ?UT NOTHING, I REPEAT, NOTHING HAS
CHANGED SINCE THAT MEETING. CARDINAL DIFFEPENCES EXIST
IN OUR SOCIETIES, 'ISTORITS, WAYS OF LIFE, WORLD OUTLODiS,
IN OUR ESPFCTITF TREATMENT OF INTFF NAL ANT' sI~OBAL
FFOPLFMS. THE SOVIET LFA'`F~SHIF IS CONVINCED THAT WE
MUST NOT ALLO! THESE. OIFFERFNC.rS TO REACH THE STAGE OF
CCNFIR 3l\!TATION. HISTORY FAS ACTED TO N1AYE THE SOVIET
TJN'I3 AND THE UNITLD STATES THE V.'ORLD'S TWO MAJOR
NATIONS , WITH IiMF%!SF ECONOMIC AND MILITARY POTENTIAL.
I CANNOT IM?GINF A FUTURE FO? OUR COUNTRIES ',.~ITFOUT
P FRAMEWORK OE` COOPERATION . ANY OTHER APP ROA CCH WOULD
BF IRP'FSPONSIFLE AND 7-A'`;'1 ROi?S. SCIENCE AND TFOE JLOGY
APE DEVELOPING WITH FUCH :PELT' THAT '+F ^^T7-)T ACT `1O3E
FNERGF=TICALLY. OT -+FR'TISE 'A.r h1IG T LOSE OUR PP.'rScNT
CtPORTUNITY. IT IS FART' ENOUGH TO COV TO TE:HH!S TODAY.
WE NEED TO OFMiLIZE OUR RFL.^TIONS. i~E CAN SIT TOWN
AT TFF NEGOTIATING IABLF, REFCd A.GEEEi"IFNT, AND PFUFRSF
THE AE?MS RACE.
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SUBJECT: CJJEL BYR'?/THTTRv~ONDD: RECORD OF MEETINs WITH
6. (C) CURRENT r'FT:'.OTTS OF POLITICAL PRESSURE UPO:'?1 THE
SOVIET UNION 4.ILL YIELD ND BENEFIT TO THE UNITED STATFS.
THE SOVIET UNION! TILL NOT BE INTI'MIDATE'D, WILL NOT EE
d..FOUGFT TO ITS 'rNTES. 'TILL FIND A RBSPONSF TO ANY
CH4LLENIF. RUT THIS IS NOT THE HIGH ROAD. `rF M UST
FIND P '+PY OUT OP THE PERSENT P7-EDICA?1FNT, LEADING TO
NORMALIZATION OF RELATIONS. LN h'Y TIME "A. rAZI''.'E INTER-
VIF1,1, I TRIED NOT TO DELVE INTO THE PAST, TO FPESENT
A LIST OF CLAI"IS AGAINST THE UNITED STATES. -'E LOOT
TO THE FUTURE, AND CALL UPON THE AMEI~IOAN SIDE -- IN-
CLUDI NG THE U.S. CONGRESS -- TO DO THE Sr^ ^1F. , I H ILE OF
COURSE .,'E ?OTT. CAN ON TPF LESSONS OF THE PAST.
PERHAPS I `FILL STOP AT THIS POINT AND LISTEN TO iT AT
YOU HAVE TO SPY.
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7. (U) SF" ATOP FYRD SAID . IPT PRESIDENT :Yb TAN; HAD AS'{FD
HIM TO PRESENT A L ETTFR FROM THE PRESIDENT TO THE
GENERAL SFCRE.'1'~IBY, ALONG T-JITH THE PRE'SIDENT'S GOOD
WISHES NGTN : SFN!TOR BYRD THEN FANDED THE LETTER
TO GORBACHEV). 60-RBACHEV THANKED THE SENATO3 AND ASTED
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EI'`1 TO CONVEY GD .PACHEV'S BEST WISHES TO THE PLESIDFNT.
GOREACFEVi ADDED TEAT ','RILE FF DIDN''T ''NOM TE CONTENT
HE APFRFCIATT THE GESTURE. BYRD SUGGESTED TAT
CCP.?COHEV TA'E 1 MOi`1E^'T TO HEAD TEE LETTER, IOIT NAS
BRIEF. GORBACH.IV As FFD TO DC S0 3TF: SO\IFT INTE -
PFETER SUYHODPFV TEEN TRANSLATED TFF LETTER INTO
RUSSIAN).
E ;C) GGREACHEV SAID TEAT TTTIS "AS A GOOD LETTER. MY
FIRST IMPRESSION (GORBaC?F'V CONTINUED) IS THAT IT
MERITS " POSITIVE EVALUATION. IN PPEPPRIN FJR TEE
SU"1MIT INE 3DTH NEED TO DE-FPFN OUR DIALOGUE. I : TEAT' c
TEAT THE PRESIDENT IS S-! YINT, I F.LCOivIE HIS STATE'N,FNT.
WE ALSO N ED, DEEPER UNDERSTAtNDIF' G OF' OUR RESPFCTIVF
VIEtd}OINTS, AS I HAVE ALREADY NOTED. I ALSO AGRFE THAI
YOUR VISIT CAN CO,TFIRUTF TO OTJR POLITICAL DIALOGUE.
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"PUT PFACTIC4L STFFS ARF NFET.ED TO IMPLEMENT P. CORRECT
POLITICAL LINT, Ate :) HERE IS !FFRF DIEICULTIFS TEND TO
AFISE. YF VUET LFP_RN TO INN OVF OUR RELATIONS. FINAIIY,
I PM FLFP.SFJ TO DISCOVER THAT THE F'?ESIEENT HAS A FISH
CFINION OF TFIS C0^:GR7SSIONA.L DFLEsPTION.
c. (U) SENATOR RYRD C0M F^T'ED THAT PRESIDENT T:T$GAN "-.'AS
SINCERE AND SERIOUS IN HIS LITTER, !N SOUL') HAVE LIEN
PLEASED TO FUR GOiEACE'M.V'S STATEMENT TEAT `F NF'FD P.
DI 4LOGUF. T=IE ER} IDENT AS 'FD PYRD TO EXF?ESS 0-ALLY
TFF PL SIDEN;T'S HIiH FEGAPJ xOR CCRT:'ACPFV AND i'0 SAY
HO MTjCE T1.7 F1~ FSITFNT 11001' 'FL)' FOR.ARD TO VFETIt.'G IM.
TEE PRESIDENT AS'E_D TEE DELM)ATION TO REPORT PPiC{ TO
RIM, ANR ',,'F III IIL ED TTIAT
1P_ . (Cl G0'?BAC'iFV SPIT` HE I AS DEEPLY CON 4INC_D ;?AT t'E
MUST UST THE OPPORTUNITY PROVIDED BY TrF UPCO1IN1
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SUMMIT TO T^_';F SFF;I0US, SI,'NIEICAN T STEPS IN
OUR RILAIERAL :i_f AT10NS, FOR TEL. FN'E 'IT ')F 0UR I
PFOPL S AS ' ELL A S F OR /' LL PYCPLF . T F?F I S , =='0 'FV ER,
A GROUP r.I O'JN" TEE YRFSITFNI TF..T IS LOIN: ALL IT CAN
TO URJFR~'INL I NY P CRIF?^.F NT RFTujEFNT JS T'iIS 13 ~+'HY
I SFO`F OC'T IN l''Y TI''E MA.:AZINr I"TI ` Iz' APO-J7' CERTAIN
GROUPS IN TAE UNITED STA.TMS. NOTHAT THE 'A0ti-~'I?Er.
MFFTItiJ =PS PEEN SCiiFDULID, TtiIS CPOJP IS PTTiPTIN'r
TC hA"F T-E F.EFTIt'i 77VOI1 C -T' SL"SIA.N'T. TI IS IS
'TONG; IT IS IRNFSFONSIPLF, tAR ICULkHLY SINTE SJ;?iE
OF T>?FST PD"'OCATES "OLD HI'E POSITIONS. I' I.=F IS P
r~AP{FD DIFF_FRiNCF PtI'~:EEN T1 IS APFRGPCH AND iTF MOOD OF
THE U.S. PUBLIC, THE U.S. CDNCRE'SS, T:JE SOVIFT PEOPLE,
AA'T` SUPRFVF SOVIFT. THE CU iHENT STATE Oh 071 FLAI'IOi*3
IS TJN.CCEPTARI,E. F MUST ACT TO UIET TGIF HAi!1 S . n0
`.%OULD SPOIL TEF PFOSP CTS FO : OUR R:OvE`1REF ?FTIN-
TFFY TEIN ONLY CF' THEIR i?;".RC`".; INTERISTS. SHALL
DO OUR PEST TO P?FPARE SERIOUSLY ANT) I`1FROV= OUR RELA-
TIONS. 't.F RELY ON TEE 'F ISDUM: OF THE PRESIDENT TO DO
LIISF
SFNATOR PYRD'S STATEMENT
11. (L) SF^JnTOR LI L' SAIL` TT'AT FF ';;OUL'_L II'F TJ EAD
ST ATF`1EtdT. T?' t; F ?H ME`1TE' 0 TH: DM LFJATI DN F'D`JLD
LI uF TO MA'{F P1. I !`'')I V IDTJP L CCNTF I ?UTI ON , r0FP .C FV
SPID TEPT '.!,JIIF NOT IVERYCNF EFLIFVED THAT DEN;OC:'ACY
EXISTED IN THE SOVIFT UNION, ALAS, IT DOES, EVEN
CONFILENTIAL
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TL A. 717 THIS ''a.S FVRTICULARLY SERIOUS SINCE CON3~'T5S 'v:'4S
Or, Ty- TO C O ' TI NUE T?TF FIOETI' G . I r -1 F GCR BAC FV .,?I'', :JF MONEY SS ARE ALL OFF" S':L YOU
SPEND NO TIME TJi T IN T''-r,. SENATOR FYPLD RESFO%)F'D
FAT TF=F;F `WOULD BF NO MONEY S_-.CVS IF Iz"F S071-1iT UNION
WOULD LEI AFGHANISTAN. BIRD APDED TiAT CIS 20,'iiv ENT
SEOUL NOT ?E '#A TO. C0!'FIr +;AT THE ;ENE 1. SEC?E -
TAPLYHAD SAID' ABOUT MONEY P'r ING PT OVIT EF LY CCR PSS.
12 . (C CO=B CH SAID HF I:AD CONTRADICTJ~:Y IP_ 7S-
SIONS OF TF-: SENATOR'S STt TF'i'FNT. I LIS PNFD VERY
ra EIli LTY JOFEACHEV CONTINUED, kND I UNDERSTAND THAT
YOU FPVF TO ?FPOiT BPCT TT YOUR COLLEGJJFS T_'hJ' YOU
COVERED ALL THE USUAL 3rLOUNDS AND RP1F FULLF':' OUT ALL
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''ITH TFT AY YOTT FAZE DONE IRIS. YOU ?ASE iM vOTL
AS A WITNESS THAT YOU COVERED ALL THE GROUNDS IN A VERY
BROAD MANNER. IN THAT SENSE, YOU DID '_.'ELL.
13. (C) FRAN'lLY SPFp~ING, I HEARD NOTHING NEW. I
TF'FRLEORE SEE NO NF`+' OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IHIA3S.
I SPOVE VERY BROADLY IN TIME MAGAZINE ABOUT OUH
RFLATIONS. ON THE ONE FAND, IT SEEMS CONGRESS IS IN
FAVOR OF I.IPROVED RELATIONS PFTWFFN OUR T,,O COJNTRIFS,
AND OF DIALOGUE RE3AR'ING THIS. THAT S? OULD P-- TP FN
AS THE STARTING POINT, AND k'F SHOULD THEN THINi B0UT
ROW TO DO IT. WF SHOULD SPEAK NOT ONLY ABOUT ",FAT THE
SOVIETS CAN DO, PUT ALSO "BOUT WHAT THE UNITED STATES
SHOULD DO. TEE PROCESS S'iOJLD BY NEUTRAL. HIS IS
WEPT RECIPROCITY IS ALL ABOUT. YET IT APPEARS FROM
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YOUR STPTEMENT THAT ALL CONCERNING THE SOVIET UNION IS
BIACk:, WHILE ALL CONCPRNING TFF UNITED STATES IS
VHITE. SURELY THIS MEANS BLACKENING THY SOVIET UNION'S
PCLICIES AND PCTIONS, WHILE RITEWASEI 3 THE UNITED
STATES' POLICIES AND ACTIONS.
14. (C) WHAT CONCLUSION CAN ONE ?DRAW FROM THIS? IT IS
THE SAME THAT ONE DRA.'.'S FROM TEL SPEECH BY FHF'SIDFNTIAL
ASSISTANT MCFARLAN'D ON H0~'; TO IMPROVE 'RELATIONS WITH
THY SOVIET UNION. THE: SOVIET UNION MUST CHRN]E ITS
POLICIES AND EVEN ITS POLITICAL SYSTEM. THIS WOULD BE
CAPITULATIDN. I HAVE MADE THIS POINT IN TINE MAGAZINE.
WHAT IS THIS? IS THIS THE ?AY TO SF=-RCP FOR A. :SETTER
TI ALOGUE ON, QLL TEF ISSUES YOU HAVE RAISED? TO ASSERT
THAT THi UNITED STATES IS RIGHT AND T E SOVIET UNION
1;~F ONG?
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1S . (0) FEGAR ING HUMAN PIG ?IS, THIS MAT TES C KNOT FE
I`ISCUSsFD PROrUCTIVFLY UNTIL TFT UNITED STATES SISNS
AND THE U.S. CONGRESS RATIFIFS SOME SIX INTE'P".TIONAL
PICTS ON HJ.IAN FIG TS. d: 'E iv YOU FRAV'F DONE ':':CIS, E CAN
TALI' ABOUT POI.IIICAL RIGHTS, HUMAN RIGHTS, APARTHEID,
RPCIAL OISC?IMINLTION, AND OTHER ISSUES. ON THE EVE
OF THY i?ECENT U. S. PRFSIDE N'TIAL ELECTION, PRESIDENT
REAGAN SUGGESTED THAT TEE UNITED STATES SIGN ONE OF THESE
PPCTS. EUT AFTER THE ELECTIONS THIS BAS PROPPED. HIS
SUGGESTION MUST hAV'T' BEEN MADE TO ATTRACT TAY SUPPORT
OF ONE OR MORE POLITICAL GROUPS. GIVEN THIS APPROACH
TO HUNAN RIGHTS, HOB' CAN IOU DISCUSS THIS TOPIC ATITH
US?
1E. (C) WE ARE NOT AT ALL SURE THE UNITED STATES HOLDS
THE GENERALLY ACCEPTED UNDERSTANDING Or HUMAN RIGHTS,
IF INDEED YOU RELIEVE IT IS POSSIBLE TO INTFRFFRE IN
THE INTERNAL I F'FPI iiS OF ANOTHER NPTION. THEN YOU ARE
NOT OBSERVING TELL HELSINKI ACCORDS ?''RICF sIV'i?'.0 SUCH
RIGHTS. WHAT MORAL AUTHORITY DOFF THE UNITED STATES
HPVE TO TEACH OTHERS? MUCH IS ';'HONG IN THE UNITED
STATES AND IF THE UNITED STATES IS SO CONCERNED, 1k'EY
IS IT SO SELECTIVE IN CLAIMING TEAT ALL THAT HAPPENS
IN SOCI.QLIST COUNTRIES IS BAD, '~J ILE SPYING NOTHING
ABOUT SOUTH AFRICA, THE PCIICY OF CONSrUCTIVF ENGAGE
MFNT, THE T-0USANDS OF BLACKS KILLED. YOU SAY NOTHING
ABOUT CHILE WHICH APPARENTLY CAUSES YOU NO CONCERN.
THIS IS A. QUITE REMARKAFLE APPROACH.
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