TALKING POINTS ON FSCS

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• Publication Date: June 7, 1985
• Content Type: MISC

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TAKE 1 OF 3 -- ORTEGA, D'ESCOTO NEWS CONFERENCE
PA070420 MANAGUA DOMESTIC SERVICE IN SPANISH 0231 GMT 7 JUN 85
(NEWS CONFERENCE BY NICARAGUAN PRESIDENT DANIEL ORTEGA AND
FOREIGN MINISTER MIGUEL D'ESCOTO BROCKMAN AT BARRIO DE LA PRIMAVERA
(NOT FURTHER IDENTIFIED); QUESTIONERS NOT IDENTIFIED -- INTERCEPTED
IN PROGRESS; LIVE OR RECORDED)
(TEXT) (ORTEGA)...TODAY, THIS IS A SLAP, NOT ONLY AGAINST THE
NICARAGUAN PEOPLE, BUT AGAINST THE LATIN AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT IS
ALSO A SLAP AGAINST THE U.S. PEOPLE THEMSELVES, WHO DO NOT AGREE
WITH THIS WARMONGERING AND AGGRESSIVE POLICY OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.
WE MUST TAKE SOMETHING INTO CONSIDERATION: THE CONTADORA GROUP HAS
CALLED THE CENTRAL AMERICAN GOVERNMENTS TO A MEETING TO BE HELD IN
PANAMA ON 14 JUNE. ALL CENTRAL AMERICAN AND CONTADORA GROUP FOREIGN
MINISTERS WILL PARTICIPATE IN THIS VERY IMPORTANT MEETING. HOWEVER,
THE UNITED STATES IS GIVING AN ANSWER TO THE PEACE EFFORTS OF THE
CONTADORA GROUP, TO THE MEETING TO BE HELD ON 14 JUNE. THE UNITED
STATES IS GIVING AN ANSWER AHEAD OF TIME BY SABOTAGING THE 14 JUNE
MEETING. HOW CAN ONE SPEAK OF PEACE ON 14 JUNE IN PANAMA, IF THE
UNITED STATES IS RIGHT NOW APPROVING $38 MILLION TO CONTINUE
(?ATTACKING) NICARAGUA?
HOW CAN THE UNITED STATES SAY ITS SUPPORTS THE CONTADORA GROUP
WHEN THEY IT IS TRICKING US BY APPROVING THIS $38 MILLION? IF THE
U.S. PRESIDENT REALLY THINKS HE IS IN FAVOR OF CONTADORA, THAT HE IS
IN FAVOR OF PEACEFUL SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS, HE WOULD NOT BE
ASKING NOW FOR $38 MILLION SO THAT THE SITUATION IN THE CENTRAL
AMERICAN REGION WILL WORSEN AND SO THAT THE NICARAGUAN PEOPLE WILL
CONTINUE TO BE MURDERED.
WE REJECT THE ATTITUDE OF THE U.S. SENATORS WHO VOTED IN FAVOR OF
THE $38 MILLION BECAUSE THEY ARE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THE CRIMES
AGAINST THE NICARAGUAN PEOPLE. THEY ARE VOTING FOR MORE MURDERS OF
NICARAGUAN CHILDREN, OF NICARAGUAN WOMEN, OLD PEOPLE, YOUTHS. THE
U.S. SENATORS, APPROXIMATELY 50 OF THEM, VOTED IN FAVOR OF THIS WHEN
THEY VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE $38 MILLION. AND FURTHERMORE, THEY ARE
ALSO VOTING IN FAVOR OF THE BLOODSHED OF THE U.S. YOUTHS. THAT
POLICY WILL LEAD TO A DIRECT INTERVENTION OF THE U.S. TROOPS IN
NICARAGUA. THE INTERVENTION OF U.S. TROOPS IN NICARAGUA WILL MEAN
THAT THE U.S. YOUTHS WILL SHED THEIR BLOOD IN NICARAGUA. WE DO NOT
WANT THE BLOODSHED OF U.S. YOUTHS IN NICARAGUA. (CROWD SHOUTS:
YANKEE BLOOD, YES!)
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APPARENTLY, THE U.S. PRESIDENT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE LIVES OF
THE AMERICAN YOUTHS. THIS VOTE GIVEN BY THE U.S. SENATE TONIGHT IN
FAVOR OF THAT $38 MILLION IS THEREFORE A VOTE IN FAVOR OF WAR, AND
OF TERRORISM, A VOTE AGAINST PEACE. THE NICARAGUAN PEOPLE REJECT
THIS VOTE. THE U.S. LEADERS SHOULD NOT LEAD THEMSELVES TO THINK
THAT THEY ARE GOING TO SINK THE SANDINIST REVOLUTION IN THAT
MANNER.
THE NICARAGUAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE DEFEATING THOSE
MERCENARIES AND THE NICARAGUAN PEOPLE ALSO HAVE THE MORAL STRENGTH,
THE DIGNITY, AND THE DETERMINATION TO DEFEAT YANKEE INTERVENTION, IF
IT WERE TO TAKE PLACE.
AND HERE, FROM THIS POOR NEIGHBORHOOD OF NICARAGUA, FROM THIS
BARRIO DE LA PRIMAVERA, WE SEE HOW 38 MOTHERS HAVE ALREADY LOST
THEIR CHILDREN IN THE DEFENSE OF THE REVOLUTION, AND THEY THEMSELVES
ARE WILLING TO GIVE THEIR LIVES TO DEFEND THIS REVOLUTION.
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///DEFEND THIS REVOLUTION.
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(TEXT) (QUESTION) COMMANDER DANIEL ORTEGA, ALLOW ME TO ASK YOU
ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HUMANITARIAN OR MILITARY AID. DO
THE SANDINISTS MAKE SUCH A DIFFERENTIATION?
(ORTEGA) THERE IS NO SUCH DIFFERENCE. ANY ARMY, ANY MERCENARY
FORCE NEEDS LOGISTICS IN ORDER TO TAKE ACTION. IF A SOLDIER IS NOT
FED, HE CANNOT FIGHT. AND I AM SURE THEY ARE NOT ONLY GOING TO GIVE
THEM THESE FUNDS FOR FOOD, BUT FOR WEAPONS AS WELL.
(QUESTION) COMMANDER, WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THESE FUNDS FOR THE
CONTRAS WERE APPROVED NOW? WHY? DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH YOUR
TRIP TO THE USSR?
(ORTEGA) NO, I DO NOT THINK THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH MY TRIP
TO THE USSR, BUT RATHER WITH THE MISTAKES THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS
COMMITTED THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF HISTORY WITH RESPECT TO LATIN
AMERICA AND THE WORLD. THE UNITED STATES IS ALWAYS MAKING MISTAKES.
AS A GENERAL RULE, THE U.S. SENATE HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED THIS TYPE OF
POLICY. THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WILL NOW VOTE ON TUESDAY, AND
WE WILL SEE HOW THEY WILL VOTE. WE WILL SEE IF THEY VOTE IN FAVOR
OF THE PEACEFUL SOLUTION, OR IN FAVOR OF WAR.
(QUESTION) WILL NICARAGUA ATTEND THE CONTADORA MEETING ON 14
JUNE?
(ORTEGA) NICARAGUA HAS ALWAYS ATTENDED THESE MEETINGS AND WE WILL
ATTEND THIS MEETING.
(QUESTION) IT IS CONSTANTLY BEING SAID THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF
AN INVASION OF NICARAGUA. WILL YOU BE ASKING THE PRESIDENTS OF
HONDURAS AND COSTA RICA TO THINK THIS OVER?
(ORTEGA) THE RULERS OF HONDURAS AND COSTA RICA SHOULD HAVE IT
VERY CLEAR IN THEIR MINDS THAT AN INVASION OF NICARAGUA WILL WORSEN
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OTHE SITUATION THROUGHOUT CENTRAL AMERICA. AN INVASION OF NICARAGUA
WILL AFFECT ALL OF CENTRAL AMERICA. PEOPLE IN COSTA RICA ARE RIGHT
NOW HYSTERICALLY SHOUTING IN FAVOR OF THE INVASION, AND THEY DO NOT
REALIZE THAT THE INVASION WILL ALSO ENTAIL BLOODSHED IN COSTA RICA.
NOBODY WANTS THAT. NICARAGUA DOES NOT WANT MORE BLOODSHED FOR THE
NICARAGUAN PEOPLE, AND DOES NOT WANT BLOODSHED FOR THE COSTA RICAN
AND HONDURAN PEOPLE. HOWEVER, THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WANTS TO
COMPROMISE THE CENTRAL AMERICAN GOVERNMENTS INTO A CONFRONTATION, A
WARMONGERING POLICY THAT WILL ENTAIL MASS BLOODSHED FOR THE CENTRAL
AMERICAN PEOPLES.
(QUESTION) MR PRESIDENT, DO YOU THINK THAT THE CONDITIONS FOR A
DIRECT INTERVENTION ARE INCREASING RIGHT NOW?
(ORTEGA) WELL, THE UNITED STATES HAS CREATED ALL CONDITIONS
PROPER FOR AN INVASION. THEY HAVE CREATED THEM, SPEAKING AS A
MATTER OF FACT. THERE ARE POLITICAL SITUATIONS, THERE ARE
PROVOCATIONS, SITUATIONS THAT ARE CREATED ARTIFICIALLY THAT COULD BE
THE DETONATORS FOR LAUNCHING THE INTERVENTION. AND WE ARE HEADING
IN THAT DIRECTION, WHICH IS DANGEROUS.
(QUESTION) COMMANDER, IT IS BEING SAID THAT NICARAGUA WILL NOT
ALLOW THE COSTA RICAN CIVIL GUARDS TO ENTER NICARAGUAN TERRITORY TO
RECOVER THE BODY OF A COSTA RICAN KILLED IN THAT TERRORIST ACTION OF
THE COUNTERREVOLUTIONARY GROUPS.
(ORTEGA) THAT IS A LIE, AND WE HAVE SENT A NOTE TODAY TO THE
COSTA RICAN GOVERNMENT TELLING IT THAT IF THE COSTA RICAN RED CROSS
COULD NOT REMOVE THE BODY FROM COSTA RICAN TERRITORY, THEN WE
PROPOSED THAT THE COSTA RICAN RED CROSS ENTER NICARAGUAN TERRITORY
AND REMOVE THE BODY FROM THE BORDER AREA. THAT WAS GOING TO SHOW
THAT NICARAGUA HAS NOT FIRED A SINGLE SHOT AGAINST COSTA RICAN
TERRITORY, AND THAT THE CIA MERCENARY GROUPS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE
CREATING AND PROVOKING THIS CONFLICT IN AN ARTIFICIAL MANNER.
(QUESTION) COMMANDER, WHAT WILL NICARAGUA DO IF THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES APPROVES THE AID FOR THE COUNTERREVOLUTIONARIES,
BOTH DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL AID?
(ORTEGA) WELL, WHAT WOULD THE NICARAGUAN PEOPLE DO? NOW, LET US
ASK THE PEOPLE OF LA PRIMAVERA WHAT THEY WOULD DO. FOR EXAMPLE: TO
CONTINUE WITH THE DEFENSE TASKS, THAT IS TO CONTINUE WITH
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OREVOLUTIONARY SURVEILLANCE. THE NICARAGUAN PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE
JOINING THE SANDINIST PEOPLES' MILITIAS. IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW
MANY COMPANEROS ARE WILLING TO JOIN THE SANDINIST PEOPLES' MILITIAS?
(CROWD SHOUTS: I, I, I!) HOW MANY ARE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN
THE REVOLUTIONARY SURVEILLANCE TASKS? (CROWD SHOUTS: ALL OF US!)
WHAT DO YOU THINK, THAT WE ARE GOING TO SURRENDER? (CROWD SHOUTS:
NO!) DO YOU WANT US TO SELL OUT? (CROWD SHOUTS: NO!) SHALL WE
YIELD TO THE YANKEES? (CROWD SHOUTS: NO!) SHALL WE ACCEPT A
DIALOGUE WITH THE CONTRAS? (CROWD SHOUTS: NO!) OR ARE WE GOING TO
FIGHT? (CROWD SHOUTS: TO FIGHT!) AND WE ARE GOING TO ADVANCE?
(CROWD SHOUTS: WE WILL FIGHT! WE WILL WIN!)
(QUESTION) COMMANDER, CONCERNING THE SITUATION IN ARENAL, ON
HONDURAN TERRITORY?
(UNIDENTIFIED ANNOUNCER) THANK YOU, THOSE HAVE BEEN THE
STATEMENTS BY COMPANERO PRESIDENT, COMMANDER DANIEL ORTEGA SAAVEDRA.
THIS IS A SPECIAL BROADCAST BY LA VOZ DE NICARAGUA. THE COMPANERO
PRESIDENT IS NOW TALKING WITH THE CROWD.
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///WITH THE CROWD.
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(TEXT) (ANNOUNCER CONTINUES) WE WILL TRY TO TALK A FEW MINUTES
WITH FATHER MIGUEL D'ESCOTO BROCKMAN, WHOM WE HAD NOT SEEN FOR SOME
DAYS. FATHER, HOW DOES THE FOREIGN MINISTER OF NICARAGUA ANALYZE
ALL THIS SITUATION IN THE HONDURAN TERRITORY, THE ATTACKS, THE
PROTEST NOTE SENT BY NICARAGUA CONCERNING THE APPEARANCE OF TWO
HELICOPTERS OVER NICARAGUAN TERRITORY; WHAT IS TAKING PLACE IN COSTA
RICA -- WHERE THEY HAVE EVEN BURNED THE NICARAGUAN AND FSLN FLAGS?
HOW DOES THE FOREIGN MINISTER OF NICARAGUA ANALYZE ALL THIS?
(D'ESCOTO) I WOULD SAY THAT ALL THE LATEST EVENTS, BOTH IN THE
NORTH AND IN COSTA RICA, HAVE BEEN CAREFULLY PREPARED BY THOSE
WAGING THE WAR AGAINST NICARAGUA AND.THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE
IN ORDER TO OBTAIN A FAVORABLE VOTE AT THE U.S. CONGRESS FOR
REAGAN'S POLICY. IT IS NOT COINCIDENTAL THAT THESE EVENTS TOOK
PLACE A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE THE VOTE. THE VOTE, AS YOU ARE WELL
AWARE, WAS CAST AT THE U.S. SENATE TODAY AND PRESIDENT REAGAN, WELL,
GOT THE SUPPORT HE SOUGHT. I THINK THAT THIS IS REALLY A SAD DAY
FOR PEACE. IT IS REALLY A SAD DAY BECAUSE THAT VOTE IS A VOTE IN
FAVOR OF DEATH, TERRORISM, AND THE VIOLATION OF ALL THE ELEMENTAL
NORMS OF INTERNATIONAL COEXISTENCE. IT IS ALSO, AS PRESIDENT ORTEGA
SAID, A SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE CONTADORA PROCESS. I SINCERELY
THINK THAT THIS VOTE DEMANDS THAT CONTADORA ISSUE A CLEAR AND
CATEGORICAL REJECTION, BECAUSE ONE CANNOT PRETEND TO DEFEND THE
PRINCIPLES OF AN INTERNATIONAL COEXISTENCE AND DEFEND THE LATIN
AMERICAN PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION, WHILE REMAINING
SILENT.
CONTADORA HAS RECEIVED A CLEAR AND CATEGORICAL MANDATE FROM THE
INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY. THE MANDATE WAS FIRST GIVEN THROUGH UN
SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION NO. 530 AND LATER RATIFIED IN
RESOLUTIONS ISSUED BY THE UN GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND A NEW RESOLUTION
ISSUED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL. HENCE, CONTADORA HAS THE MORAL
OBLIGATION TO REMAIN FAITHFUL TO ITS OWN MANDATE AND THE VALUES AND
PRINCIPLES OF AMERICAN LAW, AND NOT REMAIN SILENT CONCERNING THE
FACT THAT THIS TYPE OF VIOLATION IS BEING PERPETRATED BY THE UNITED
STATES.
HOWEVER, NEITHER CONTADORA NOR THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY AS A
WHOLE CAN REMAIN SILENT. I REFERRED TO CONTADORA BECAUSE CONTADORA
HAS A SPECIAL MANDATE FROM THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY GIVEN THROUGH
THE HIGHEST ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD, WHOSE FUNCTION IS TO DEFEND
INTERNATIONAL PEACE AND SECURITY. REGARDLESS OF THE REACTION BY
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OCONTADORA AND THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY, TODAY, THE SENATORS HAVE
BETRAYED THE U.S. PEOPLE'S SOVEREIGN WILL. IT HAS BEEN CLEARLY
ESTABLISHED BY THE LATEST PUBLIC POLLS IN THE UNITED STATES THAT THE
U.S. PEOPLE CLEARLY OPPOSE THAT THEIR GOVERNMENT'S BEHAVING LIKE AN
INTERNATIONAL BANDIT, ACTING OUTSIDE OF THE LAW AND VIOLATING LAW
NORMS.
WE HOPE THAT REAGAN'S VICTORY AND THIS DEFEAT FOR PEACE ALLOWS
THE U.S. CONGRESSMEN TO REFLECT AND REACH THE CONCLUSION THAT IT IS
THE FUTURE OF THE UNITED STATES, NOT THAT OF NICARAGUA THAT IS AT
STAKE IN THIS DEBATE AND THE UPCOMING VOTE AT THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES. THIS VOTE WILL DECIDE WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY THE
UNITED STATES WILL BE, AND IF IT WILL RATIFY PRESIDENT REAGAN'S WILL
TO CREATE A MONSTER THAT THREATENS THE WORLD'S PEACE AND SECURITY
BECAUSE IT REFUSES TO ABIDE BY THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY'S NORMS
TO SAFEGUARD PEACE.
THROUGHOUT ITS HISTORY, NICARAGUA HAS STRUGGLED IN DEFENSE OF
ITS RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION AND IT WILL CONTINUE STRUGGLING,
REGARDLESS OF THE VOTE. THE CIA MERCENARIES MAY BE ABLE TO KILL
MORE NICARAGUAN PEOPLE; SHED MORE BLOOD IN NICARAGUA; INFLICT MORE
SUFFERING AND PAIN; DESTROY EVEN MORE OUR ECONOMIC STRUCTURE,
SCHOOLS, AND HOSPITALS; BUT NICARAGUA WILL CONTINUE THE SAME --
DEFENDING ITS RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION AND DEMANDING A DIFFERENT
KIND OF TREATMENT FROM AND RELATIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES.
HOWEVER, IF THE U.S. CONGRESS VOTES IN FAVOR OF THIS POLICY, IT
WILL BE GIVING THE LEGAL BASIS FOR THE UNITED STATES TO BECOME --
NOT BY PRESIDENTIAL WHIM BUT THROUGH THE MANDATE OF THOSE WHO HAVE
BEEN CHOSEN TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE'S WILL AT CONGRESS -- A COUNTRY
THAT ACTS OUTSIDE THE LAW AND REPRESENTS THE MAIN THREAT TO
INTERNATIONAL PEACE AND SECURITY. -THE MAIN PRINCIPLE OF ITS POLICY
IS THAT THE UNITED STATES' MATERIAL AND ECONOMIC FORCE GIVES IT THE
RIGHT TO DO WHAT IT WANTS AND TO IMPOSE ITS WILL ON THOSE WHO ARE
WEAKER, MATERIALLY SPEAKING. WE HOPE, LIKE I SAID, THAT TODAY'S
VOTE WILL GIVE THE REPRESENTATIVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO 'REFLECT SO THAT
THEIR VOTE NEXT TUESDAY WILL BE DIFFERENT FROM THE TRAGIC AND
DEPLORABLE VOTE THIS AFTERNOON AT THE SENATE.
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