PRODUCTION AND MATERIALS

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• Publication Date: September 21, 1961
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EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
OFFICE OF CIVIL AND DEFENSE MOBILIZATION
Production and Materials
INTERDEPARTMENTAL MATERIALS ADVISORY CO7iMITTEE
Meeting No. 68
SepteMber 19, 1961
IMAC 69-1
September 21, 1961
Present
Presiding: Frank Bo Ellis, Director, Office of Civil and Defense Mobilization
Charles So Brewton, Assistant DirectorXprResources and Production?
OCDM
Russell H. Hughes, Deputy Assistant Director for Production and
Materials, OCDM
Members:
Department of State
Sydney L. W. Mellen
Department of Defense
-Carl RoIIi
Department of the Interior
W. E. SO Flory
Department of Agriculture
Bruce M. EaiV5n (Alternate)
Department of Commerce
William C. Truppner (Representative)
General Services Administration
Maurice J. Connell
International Cooperation Adm.
Theodore L. Sweet
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Observers:
Bureau of the Budget .
Lewis V. Hall (Representative)
(Item 1 and introduction to Item 2)
Atomic Energy Commission
James T. Bray
Small Business Administration
George So Hartman
Others:
Freaerick Go Dutton, Special Assist-
ant to the President.
Robert C. Turner, Bureau of the Budget
Louis Marengo, Central Intelligence
Agency
Glenn V. Gibson, Defense (as IL)
John G. Harlan, Jr., GSA (DMS)
G. Lyle Belsley, OCDM (R and P)
Charles H. Kendall, OCDM Gen, Counsel
James P. Durkin, OCDM (Gen. Counsel's
Staff)
WW1 E. Spear, OCDM (Program and
Policy)
W. E. Elliott, OCDM (Security)
W. N. Lawrence, OCDM (P and M)
W. G. Fritz, OCDM (P and M)
M. Ne Viewenhous, OCDM. (P and M)
W. G. Smith, OCDM (P and M)
Ernest Crooks, OCDM (P and M)
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1. IMAC 68-1, SUIIMARY MINUTES, 67th Aeeting_L_May 2, 1961
(Secretaryts Note: The review of the summary minutes was not completed at
the meeting, However, the minutes were approved by telephone, with the
following amendments:
Item 4, paragraph b, after the second sentence, insert: nommerce,
in general, supported these statements." (Suggested by Commerce alternate)
Item 5, under ?Recommendation 6,? second paragraph, add: nand other
pertina-factorson Under "Recommendation 8,11 at end of last sentence,
last paragraph, change the period to a comma and add: !tut it is expected
that the group will be concerned only with materials that can be made
available to foreign aid programs under existing legislation, which requires
reimbursement for any materials usedon (Suggested by State alternate))
2. Declassification of Stockpile Data
The Director of OCDM, Mr, Frank 13,- Ellis, reviewed for the Committee the
developments that led to the calling of this meeting, and asked for its advice
and recommendations, in view of these developments, toward a determination with
respect to deelassification of stockpile data. The Director said that he had
as yet expressed no position on the matter in order that he might have the
benefit of free discussion both within and without OCDM.
Mr. Charles S. Brewton, Assistant Director of OC ION for Resources and Produc-
tionotold the Committee of the results of a study of the matter by the OCDM
Resources and Production staff (summarized in Attachment A to these summary
minutes).
Mr* Brewton informed the Committee that the only categories on which the
Committeets advice was requested at this meeting with respect to declassifica-
tion, were stockpile objectives and inventories. He observed that disclosure
of information on stockpile materials would undoubtedly facilitate efforts of
Congressional committees to rectify what they might believe to be wrong or ill.
advised procedures* He stated also that it is the policy of this Administration
to make as nearly as Possible full disclosure of all information on actions and
policies of the Government. However, if these benefits are outweighed by
security considerations, the national security should not be compromised,
Falowing Mr. Brewtonts presentation, the Director requested the comments of
the Committee. These comments are summarized, in the order of discussion, in
Attachment B to these summary minutes.
The Director, on his own behalf and that of Mr. Dutton of the Presidentss
staff, expressed appreciation of the frank and sincere discussion at this
meeting and stated that these views should be helpful in resolving the serious
question of whether stockpile data should be declassified. He suggested that
although a recommendation would be developed promptly, he would appreciate
receiving any additional information that might be of assistance.
E. Taylor
Executive Secretary
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Attachment A
? to IMAC 69-1, Summary Minutes
.of 68th-IMAC Meeting on
September 19, 1961
Views of the OCDM Resources and Production Staff on
Declassification of Data on Strategic Stockpile Objectives and Inventories
Declassification of Stockpile Objectives and Inventories
Public announcement of our stockpile objectives and inventories would be of
considerable advantage to a potential enemy as it would reveal information regard-
ing our defense planning, mobilization readiness, and weaknesses in certain areas.
While in some cases declassification of information concerning objectives and
inventories may not have any adverse effects9 in many cases publication of our
objectives and inventories would reveal technological changes and technical plan-
ning which would aid a potential enemy in evaluating our security position. A
separate treatment of the various materials in the stockpile is not feasible. In
this matter, there are no practicable means of treating different stockpiled items
in different ways.
It is especially important to note that our objectives for individual items change
from time to time in line with changing plans for meeting various emergency needs*
Any release of information about such changes would lead to informed speculation
as to the reasons behind our actions, with resulting conclusions which may show
the Nation's hand in its mobilization planning0 In fact, the release of informa-
tion about changes in individual objectives might reveal the intention's of, or
the basis of planning by, the Joint Chiefs of Staff?
Since the last half of 1955, the semiannual nonclassified stockpile report has
included information indicating whether the stockpile objectives for each item in
the stockpile have been attained. This is done without any indication whatever
about the inventories or quantities involved? In 19589 the reduction of the
general stockpile planning period from 5 years to 3 years was announced* A future
change in this planning period, or in the basis of stockpile planning, is possible.
The declassification of stockpile objectives and/or inventories, together with the
known planning period and the known fact about whether individual objectives have
been attained, could reveal substantial information about our mobilization position.
Information concerning the potential enemy's stockpiles of materials would be very
valuable to this country in measuring the enemy's materials position and plans.
Your attention is called to a statement by the Central Intelligence Agency that:
n(1) we would very much like to have this kind of stockpile
information pertaining to the USSR, and
n(2)
the classified information pertaining to U. S. stockpile would
be of at least some limited intelligence value to the USSR.!
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Declassification of stockpile objectives and inventories would also reveal to
friendly and unfriendly countries our .appraisal of their value to us in an
emergency. In this connection attention is called to the statement submitted
by the Department of State on August 2, 1951:
"If information on inventories and objectives in the National Stockpile
were made freely available, unfriendly governments would be assisted in
their efforts to wage the cold war. Political and economic measures
aimed at making more difficult our fulfillment of objectives, or disposal
of sizeable surpluses could be rather effectively carried out.
"It seems possible that, in possession of details of inventories and
objectives, friendly foreign governments might be able to deduce some-
thing of the political.economic evaluation placed on them by the United
States in the determination of the stockpile objectives, To the extent
that. thiscould be done, it could be contrary to our international
interests,"
Declassification of stockpile objectives and inventories would automatically dis-
close the quantities of materials excess to our estimated mobilization requirements.
This in turn would create uncertainty as to Government intentions to dispose of
surpluses and thus tend to have disrupting and unstabilizing effects on markets,
both domestic and foreign. Over a period of time it could enhance opportunities
for speculators to start rumors of Government intentions and thus produce short
run effects on markets which they could take advantage of,
While some people in the trade and in foreign governments may know roughly what
surpluses exist0 this is quite another matter from publishing exact official
figures and keeping them up to date.
General.
Declassification of stockpile information has been thoroughly considered by
interested Government agencies represented on the Interdepartmental Materials
Advisory Committee. The subject was also reviewed by the President and his
Cabinet in 1958. Following this review, and in accordance with the decisions
reached on that occasion, DMO v-7 was published in the Federal Register on June 14,
1958. The Order contained the following policy on declassification:
"Declassification of Stockpile Data* The Office of Civil and Defense
Mobilization Ain declassify stockpile data to the maximum extent
feasible when it determines with the concurrence of agencies concerned
that the national security would not thereby be jeopardized."
When this Order was revised in many respects on December 10, 19590 it reaffirmed,
after Presidential review, the classification policies set forth in the 1958 Order.
When the stockpile classification was reviewed at the 51st meeting of the Inter-
departmental Materials Advisory Committee on October 1, 1958, interested agencies
recommended the declassification of strategic stockpile inventory data for non-
specification grade materials, materials with no current or probable stockpile
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objectives, and quantities of materials authorized for disposal* This recommenda-
tion was based on the favorable stockpile inventory conditions at that time* TIffien
the stockpile program was initiated, many materials, specification and non-soecifil-
cation grade3 were accepted by surplus transfers from other Government agencies
because most objectives were far from attained* Almost anything was better than
nothing* However, during the years following such acquisitions the inventories
of specification grade materials improved to such an extent that many of the low
grade materials could be declared surplus to the needs of the stockpile program*
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Attachment B
to IC 69-1, Summary Minutes
of 68th INIAC Meeting on
September 19, 1961
Views of the Interdepartmental Materials Advisory Committee and Others on
Declassification of Data on Strategic Stockpile Objectives and Inventories
Central Intelligence Agency
The Central Intelligence Agency representative reaffirmed the substance of that
Agencyls letters of July 28 and September 9,, 1961, to the OCDM Director regard-
ing declassification of stockpile information, and reiterated these two points:
(1) CIA would like to have this type of information from the Soviet Union, and
(2) the U. S. information would be of at least some intelligence value to the
Soviet Union. He said that it does not follow, however, that CIA opposes
declassification. CIA does not believe that release of stockpile data would be
so deleterious as to outweigh good and sufficient reasons, from the standpoint
of policy, for revealing this information. However, if there is no particular
reason for making this information public, why give the Soviet Union free infor-
mation about the stcckpile.
Atomic Energy Commission
The AEC observer stated that although generally declassification of data on
stockpile objectives, inventories and quantities on order would not be objected
to by that Agency, the matter requires caution. He pointed out that as in all
generalities one must consider certain situations that may arise. Only a few
of the materials presently being stockpiled are now highly sensitive to AECr
However, in the future, because of some breakthrough in research and technologi-
cal advances, other materials may suddenly become important to AEC. Fbr these
reasons, it may be necessary for AEC to submit new requirements, which in turn
may cause an increase in certain stockpile objectives or even establishment of
new objectives, and possibly amendment of the stockpile procurement directives
if additional acquisition is necessary. If AEC were known to be the major
claimant for these materials, the mobilization requirements (classified restricted
data) could easily be compromised.
The AEC representative believed that, in the event of declassification, OCDM
could find a way to protect AEC data. However, AEC would like the opportunity
of examining the figures on certain materials before they are published in
order to satisfy both AEC and OCDM that there would be no compromise of security.
Although the classification of basic data sheets was not an item for discussion
at this meeting, AEC noted that the classification of these data is a sensitive
one.
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Department of Commerce
The Commerce representative supported AEC's statements concerning the problems
of protecting AEC data if stookpile data are declassifiedo
Commerce did not believe that disclosure of stockpile data would have any serious
effect upon the domestic market, The industries most importantly concerned with
production of stockpile materials can rather closely estimate stockpile quanti-
ties of some materials o With respect to whether this would be true of other
nations either friendly or unfriendly Commerce would defer to the judgment of
CIA and States
Department of the Interior
The Interior member stated that his Department is interested in seeing as much
of the data as possible on stockpile inventories and objectives declassified,
and it finds no basis from the information available to that Department on which
to argue against declassification from a national security standpoint? He noted,
however, that other agencies have indicated that declassification of some of
these data could compromise the security of data or programs for which they are
responsible? He referred particularly to (a) State's observation that the dis-
closure of stockpile objectives would show the political-economio evaluation
placed on certain countries with respect to wartime supply, particularly for
materials that come from single-source countries (this evaluation is a part of
the classified system for factoring supply), and (b) Defenses statement that
if the objectives are revised according to present military planning there is
a chance of compromise?
The interior member pointed out that for several years a listing of the basic
and maximum objeetives achieved (without any indication of quantities) has been
published in the semiannual Stockpile Report to the Congress. This, he believed,
had proved to be a rather tight security control in that it did not seem to
compromise data still classified? However, if information on strategic stockpile
quantities were published along with the statements regarding achievement of
objectives, it would be possible to determine the magnitude of at least those
objectives that are not meto Therefore, it seems imperative that both the
objectives and inventories be treated alike; Joey, either declassify both or
classify both?
Department of State
The State member reaffirmed statements made in that Department's letter of
August 2, 1961, to the OCDM Director (which were read at this meeting (see
Attachment A). He said, however, that these factors alone would not be serious
enough to cause the Department to object to declassificatione The major con..
siderations, he believed, were (a) the views of Atomic Energy Commission,
Department of Defense, National Aeronautics and Space Administration and the
Central Intelligence Agency, (b) the security implications of allowing the
potential enemy to keep informed of changes in the stockpile objectiveso
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Department of Defense
The Defense representative said that his Department does not object to declassi-
fication of information on stockpile inventories and information contained in
stockpile procurement directives, Nor does Defense object to the disclosure of
the present stockpile objectives inasmuch as the military information implicit
therein is about 3 years old, The Defense representative did state, however,
that if it is the intention to update these stockpile objectives on the basis
of present Planning? the disclosure of the updated objectives for some materials
could reveal specific military planning, This would be particularly true for
new materials to be stockpiled? He said that the Department would want to give
a little more thought to releasing information on stockpile objectives) but would
still have no objection to release of inventory information (except as noted
below)*
Defense could see no benefit to the public in revealing stockpile storage locations
and quantities of stockpile materials at each location unless there are compelling
reasons for doing sop This would merely complicate the problem of protecting
these inventories from sabotage and other unauthorized access*
Defense stated that information contained on basic data sheets and information
relative to the systems for factoring supply of and requirements for strategic
materials should remain classified?
Department of Agriculture
The Agriculture alternate said that his Department is not in a position either to
appraise the security implications of declassifying stockpile data or to object to
declassification* It therefore defers to other agencies having a more expert
knowledge of these implications*
General Services Administration
The GSA member stated that his organization is not in a position to determine
whether changing the security classification of stockpile data would adversely
affect the national security and, therefore, is not in a position to object to
declassification?. GSA deferred to OCDM and other agencies directly concerned
with such considerations*
International Cooperation Administration
The ICA member said that his agency is not in a position to evaluate the implica-
tions of releasing stockpile data, It was his personal view, however, that the
statements presented by Mr* Brewton at this meeting pointed up the necessity for
retaining the security classification for some of the categories,'
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Small Business Administration
The Small Business Administration observer likened his agency's position to that
of the central Intelligence Agency, and restated SBA's belief (expressed in a
letter of August 1$ 1961, to the Director of OCDM) that effective steps should
be taken to complicate the acquisition by unfriendly powers of data detrimental
to the security of the United States. SDA also restated its position that if
there is any doubt as to whether a document should be classified, downgraded or
declassified, the doubt should be resolved in favor of classification.
Bureau of the Budget
(Secretary's Note: The representative of the Bureau of the Budget left the
meeting early because of an emergency callo He subsequently informed the
Committee Secretary that his comments would have been along the lines of the
Budget Director's letter of September 9, 1961, to the Director of OCM1 i.e.,
that the Bureau would defer in this matter to the agencies directly responsible
for the development and maintenance of stockpile information.)
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