YOU REQUEST ON JACKSON'S PRECIPITUOUS MEMORANDUM

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THE DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE
MEMOPANDLM FOR:
SUBJECT . Your.request on Jackson's Precipitious Memorandum
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1. As I. indicated to you, the request by Cliff Opper for on-line
access to CIRIS data and the CCPC Facilities Inventory is involved. No
one is against providing DIA, or others in the community with a need to
know, data contained in the CIRIS files. We now do provide it to them
in standard hard copy runs and in response to specific requests, so we're
really only addressing machine access.
2. This presents security problems because the intelligence community
data is on the same machines as CIA management data. CIA is concerned
about a possible spill-over. This apparently has sufficient potential to
have caused the CIA for several years to drag its feet in providing access
through direct terminals outside the control of the DCI. There are two
answers to this:
a. force the issue on security; and
b. put community information on its own computer.
This latter may be expensive, but in the long run, if the community idea
flies, we cannot allow interchange to be inhibited because of the particular
and justified interests of other agencies.
3. You will recall that I have proposed, as agenda items for the IRAC
to be held after the Director meets with (a) the COINS paper
and (b) the establishing of an IRAC Management' Information Working Group
to guide information systems development for the community. It seems to
me there is every reason to have one coordinated Management Information
System with the principle established that the DCI controls the vocabulary
and the operating procedures.. In the event that such a working group is
established, it should consider the Opper request and the whole matter of
policy concerning sharing of information, security, and the like in context.
Note: Opper's request represents-the need of only one piece of DIA. It
does not represent other legitimate DIA elements that may wish to have sim-
ilar machine access. Even if use patterns were legitimized so as to warrant
a terminal for Opper, there would be policy questions in DIA as to where
that terminal should be located and who should have access to it. Without
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dragging our feet, _ seems important that both give their STAT
full support to 0 request and that they verify that the present method
of sharing the inf,..:.ation is not adequate either in the near term or longer
view. I suspect that 0 request is in thee"nice-to-have" category.
F'ner, it would be poetic justice about now to take the initiative with
and force his acquiescence to the point that CIRIS is what Defense
wants to employ regularly enough in their management structure to warrant
expenditure for direct access terminals.
Ii. There are two other alternatives once we get the polio question
on direct access to CIRIS settled. First, suggested by is STAT
to provide DIA with the computer tapes for CIRIS and CCPC. This strikes
me as a very reasonable improvement over the current hard copy arrangements.
Second, to look into the White House/OMB computer and determine whether the
DCI community information could be located thereon. This latter has some
intuitive concern to me.
5. I understand that request was made in his capacity as
a member of the CCPC and was neither coordinated within DIA or approved
by anyone in the DIA command element. I have prepared a letter to
(attached) that summarizes the options and our. views, and suggests that the
question should be taken with This will give 0 the
opportunity to get II support for the proposal, or to withdraw the
request if that support is not forthcoming.
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THE DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE
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Member, Critical Collection Problems Committee
Defense Intelligence Agency
Attention: DC3
Room 901
Pomponio Plaza,_Rosslyn
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Your concept proposal. to provide DIA on-line, interactive access to
the intelligence community CIRIS and facilities inventory data bases was
passed to me by We are both sympathetic and have
been giving it careful thought.
In the long run, these data bases must support the program analyses
and decision processes of USIB and IRAC members. I gather that, in this
context, is working on a management information system for
the GDIP at NSA has his system working well and we receive
CCP and APS tape input-to CIRIS. I understand that iI has consider-
able interest in DOD intelligence management information systems and is
looking further at the NSA model. My notion -- having been assigned
responsibility by 0 for the Data Support Group -- is to work
jointly with and get maximum mileage from the lessons learned from
CIRIS, to conform whatever final systems that may be developed, and their
vocabularies, to support the DCI,~ and other consumers, and to
keep work loads and costs within range.
The entire question of community management information is being pro-
posed as a subject for IRAC deliberation. I have urged that the IRAC
principals discuss this need -- particularly in light of the Director's
plan to increase IRAC1s role in cross-program reviews. I hope that a
working group will be charged with specific action on management information,
one part of which would be your request. This would provide a forum for
the DIA Director and the ASD(I) to go on record regarding their need for
the CIRIS and facilities inventory data bases in a more responsive mode
than our present methods of sharing information provide. Obviously, the
data would need to be accessed often enough to justify the expense of pro-
viding on-line, interactive remote links to it.
I have gone into the matter with Chuck Briggs of CIA. Since CIA
internal statistics are maintained in the same computer, the possibility
of spillover, a serious concern to the CIA, is a hangup that must be over-
come before your immediate request can be satisfied. There are three ways
we can approach this problem: (1) force the security issue head-on; (2)
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Data Support Terminal
REFERENCE: Memo to Chairman, CCPC; from DIA Member, CCPC;
Dtd 20 Mar. 73; Subject: Data Support Terminal
1. A meeting was held with members of DIA and the IC
staff on 23 March. The attendees are listed in Attachment
A. The purpose of the meeting was to discuss the request
for a data support terminal.which would be located in the
Pomponio Plaza Building, Rosslyn, as requested by the ref
erence memorandum'(Attachment B). The request involves
more than access to the CCPC Facilities Inventory; it also
includes access to the Defense CIRIS data.
2. The DIA people indicated they have a requirement
for.rapid-access to the DoD information in the CIRIS data
base. This includes Special Air Force, CCPC,.as well as,
GDIP and SRV data. The reason for requiring the information
concerns their management resource responsibility which
relates to requirements and responding to requests for in-
formation. cited 3 examples of the type of
information he requires: "Cost for a particular mission,
imagery costs and, number of.PIs in the government." The
DIA people indicated that the information they are requesting
is a subset of the problem that is being addressed by Mr.
DP-2 Plans, who is addressing the overall DIA
management resource system. It was not at all clear that
this request had been coordinated with him. They stated
initially their request is for access to CCPC facility in-
ventory and.CIRIS data and that at some future point in
time they would want to be able to update the CCPC and
CIRIS data bases.
3. I suggested that they have send a
formal request-to' D/DCI/IC, to sub-
stantiate their re examples of the
frequency of queries and approximate size of the print-
outs required on a daily/ireekly basis,. and also to address
whether or not other or anizations of DIA had similar re-
quirements. I I was reluctant to take this
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not be fulfilled without going to the D/DCI/IC level. A
great deal of discussion ensued around this matter. Mr.
indicated that the DSG would send a response back to
per the reference (Attachment B).
4. Assuming that the DIA request is validated, I sug-
gested the following alternatives for obtaining a terminal
at the Rosslyn Pomponio Plaza Building:
1. CIA/OCS - Computer Center dedicated line with terminal.
Same as IC/DSG terminal -.full access - interactive to
CIA Computer Center.
2. CIA/OCS - Computer Center tie-in to DIAOLS (DIA On-Line
System)_ Install a DIAOLS Terminal at DIA Building.
3. CIA/OCS - Computer Center tie-in to COINS; COINS ter-
minal at DIA Building.
4. TTY/TP (Teletype/telephone) request; Courier delivery.
5. CIA/OCS - Computer Center dedicated line with "read
only" terminal at DIA Building. Remote batch printer,
OCS controlled, at DIA Building.
TTY/TP request to CIA. Remote batch printer, OCS
controlled, at DIA Building.
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7. DIAOLS - Provide CIRIS (CIA) tapes to DIA,arid install
on the DIAOLS. Install DIAOLS terminal at DIA Building.
The multi-level security problems preclude the implementa-
tion at this.time of Alternatives 1 - 3. Alternative--4 is
.the way they?re doing the job today--making a telephone re-
quest and sending the information over by courier. In ad-
dition they do obtain copies of the 'Consolidated Defense
Intelligence Program from DSG and they do make periodic visits
to tale DSG as necessary to obtain data. Alternatives 5 - 6
appear to be feasible although procedures would have to be
established with the OCS. Alternative 5 is a read-only ter-
minal tied into OCS with a remote batch output printer
located in the Pommponio Plaza Building. Alternative 6 is
use of a telephone or teletype request with a remote printer
located at the Pomponio Plaza Building (also remote batch).
DIA was reluctant to accept Alternative 7 (i.e., to develop
their own system usin the CIRIS Data Base in the DIAOLS
computer), however, indicated that if they
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could not access the CIRIS data base this is indeed what
they would do. The classification level of the CCPC and
CIRIS Funding Data Base is Secret, however, there are
other narrative descriptors that include SI/TK/C
projects, which would probably preclude handling this in-
formation on the DIAOLS systems.
5. Alternative 5 appears to be the most desireable,
assuming that their requirements are valid, however, as
suggested to discussions should be held be-
tween members of his staff and OCS to work out procedures.
6. There is no action required at this time for the
IHC/SS. I is in the process of preparing a reply
to the reference memorandum and we are anticipating a re-
quest from Adm. de.Poix to General Allen.
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THE DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20505
MEMORA DUM FOR: The DIA Member, Critical Collection Problems Committee
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SUBJECT Data Support Terminal
REFERENCE :--,Your Memorandum of 20 March 1971, Subject as above.
1. The Chairman, Critical Collection Problems Committee, has referred
action on the reference to mu office.
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2. Data Support Group, Intelligence Community Staff, will contact
Mr. Haug to start action on your posal. We agree in principle that direct
DIA access to the Defense CIRIS and facilities inventory data bases is des-
irable. The most important question to'he resolved will be the security
of the non-Defense data that is stored in the same computer.
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Community Comp ro er
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21 March 1973
MEMORANDUM FOR: Community Comptroller
SUBJECT Data Support Terminal for DIA.
1. The facing memorandum responds to a DIA request for a remote
terminal to tap both CIRIS and the facilities inventory data bases (TAB A).
A memorandum response was selected rather than informal contact, because it
puts us on record as willing to tackle this problem.
2. The principal considerations are: personnel access and physical
security at the remote terminal; the cost of installation and computer
time; and security for the non- Defense data bases stored in the computer.
Of these, security of the non-Defense data bases is the most difficult. Don
Jackson (IHC) has told us that although the optimum resolution of this prob-
lem is still five years away, interim solutions may be possible.
3. A quick-fix solution, assuming computer compatibility, could be
to give DIA the Defense CIRIS and facilities inventory data bases on tape.
This avoids the larger issue of sharing centralized data bases, which we
think should be faced head-on.
4. IHC and OPPB have been informed of this action.
5. Recommend signature of the facing memorandum and return to us for
dispatch.
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