MINUTES TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY-NINTH MEETING WEDNESDAY, 2 APRIL 1980, 1000-1200 HOURS ROOM 7E62, LANGLEY HEADQUARTERS BUILDING

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DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE
Security Committee
8 April 1980
Minutes
Two Hundred and Twenty-ninth Meeting
Wednesday, 2 April 1980, 1000-1200 Hours
Room 7E62, Langley Headquarters Building
Presiding
MEMBERS PRESENT
Mr.
Mr.
Col.
Mr.
Karl Ackerman, Department of State
Lloyd E. Dean, Federal Bureau of Investigation
Herbert Kamm, Department of the Air Force
Merrill T. Kelly, Department of the Army
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Mr.
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Richard L.
, National Security Agency
u Ino, Department of Justice
Welch, Department of the Navy
ALTERNATES PRESENT
Mr.
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Central Intelligence Agency
Mr.
Mr.
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James W. G blick, Federal Bureau of Investigation
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Mr. Maynard C. Anderson, Office of Secretary of Defense
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illiam H. Randolph, Department of Commerce
Donald Stigers, Department of State
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PRELIMINARY CO! ENTS
1. noting his formal appointment on
21 March of Security, CIA, said he viewed
his Security Committee duties as being equally important
as his Agency ones. He advised that the DCI had also
stressed t e of the Community responsibilities
involved* said he would welcome ideas and
suggestions rom members to aid him in dealing with
Community concerns. (U)
2. The Chairman recognized and welcomed Mr. Lloyd E.
Dean as the new FBI member of the Committee. (U)
3. The Chairman next asked Col. Kamm and
to brief members on APEX implementation. (U)
a. Col. Kamm, chairman of the working group
on APEX implementation in Government, said they
had agreed that Washington area civilian and
military managers for handling SCI material should
be invited to an orientation seminar on APEX. These
people would then be tasked to provide similar
orientation briefings to others, and so on, until
all involved U.S. officials worldwide had been
provided an understanding of the APEX system.
Col. Kamm distributed and discussed a proposed
agenda for the seminar, scheduled for 5-6 May 1980. (U)
b. chairman of the working
group on in ustry implementation, said they were
developing a series of tapes/films on the back-
ground, purpose and scope of the APEX implementation
and conversion process. A small number of contractor
representatives is being asked to comment on the
draft series to ensure that it covers the subject
clearly and adequately for subsequent distribution
to the field and use by contractors there. (U)
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4. The Chairman advised that the security orientation
for senior officials, as edited, had been shown to the DCI
on 1 April. said the DCI's reaction was enthusiastic
and that he vo un eered to sign letters to Cabinet
officers encouraging them and their senior assistants to
see the presentation. dvised that a copy of
the package (slides, tape an script) would be provided
to members of the Security Awareness Working Group at
their next meeting for use by senior security officers
within departments and agencies. The Chairman commended
and his working group for their work in developing
ul presentation. A suggestion was made that
the presentation, when possible, should accompany personal
briefings by a security officer. It was noted that the
presentation was classified Secret. (U)
5. The Chairman advised that efforts to develop a
common nondisclosure agreement for use with APEX were
proceeding on schedule. noted that CIA and
NSA General Counsels were currently consulting on a
specific form. (U)
6. The Chairman referred to discussions at the
22 February 1980 special SECOM meeting, and asked members
what had been done in their agencies with regard to the
SECOM majority position suggesting changes in 5.2284, the
proposed National Intelligence Act of 1980. Representatives
from seven member agencies said they had referred the
majority position to their Counsels or policy staffs without
known result to date. asked that efforts be
continued to obtain po icy review of this matter.
Mr. Anderson advised that his office viewed the SECOM
recommended changes as administrative ones. He said they
had discussed them with Mr. Miller, Staff Director, SSCI. (U)
7. The Chairman advised that he had participated in
a closed briefing of the House Government Operations Sub-
committee on security at U.S. facilities overseas. He
commended the quality of State's presentation there and
expressed his pleasure with the attitude of mutual support
evidenced b re resentatives of various departments and
agencies. noted that Subcommittee members
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seemed quite interested in the extent of field holdings of
sensitive documents and in emergency destruction capabilities.
Mr. Ackerman said he believed the Congress would pursue
these subjects more vigorously after the hostages in
Tehran and Bogota are releasedAMensiPlEve suggested the
need to consider the security documents under
major fire conditions as well as when embassies are seized
by mobs. He suggested that U.S. documents reproduced in
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g e serious tire in the U.S. Embassy in
Moscow in 1979. (C)
8. Mr. Dowd introduced Mr. Robert O'Brien of the
Department of Energy, who will be their administrative
point of contact for SECOM matters. (U)
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ITEM 1: Approval of Minutes
The minutes of the special meeting on 22 February 1980
were approved with a corrected page already distributed, and
the minutes of the regular meeting of 27 February were
approved as written. (U)
ITEM 2: Subcommittee and Working Group Reports
a. Com artmentation - Col. Kamm said they planned
to meet on 10 April to review the appendix to DCID 1/20.
(U)
25X1 A b. R&D - distributed a paper on anticompromise
emergency destruct ion, and asked members to revie
come to the next meeting prepared to discuss it.
said some members of Congress had been troubled t
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a recent hearing that the U.S. was not holding realistic
fire drills overseas. (C)
c. Security Awareness - advised that the
Defense Industrial Security Ins i u e as applied for member-
ship on the working group. (U)
d. Investigative Standards - said the
DCI approved a ju ication gui eline were being printed.
The working group has tentatively approved the personnel
security investigations survey report and galley proofs
are being prepared for review by SE M rs at the next
25X1 A meeting. plans to
present h e repor an wi available for
questions at the 7 May meeting. asked
to take the lead in finishing wo ey an
other WG matters pending selection of a new chairman to
25X1A replace (U)
25X1 A e. TSCS - advised that they had addressed
without resoluti urity implications of advertising
and export by manufacturers of countermeasures equipment.
The issue of nongovernmental requests for data on counter-
measures capabilities is also of concern to the TSCS. (U)
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f. Unauthorized Disclosures - Mr. Moore said the
FBI was investigating leaks of sensitive information bearing
on the Afghanistan crisis, but noted that broad dissemination
Air Force
(enlisted man
permitted to re-enlist; Federal prosecution is still a
possibility. Mr. Moore said a third man had been arrested
in a case of hijacking of sensitive U.S. data overseas, and
made resolution doubtful. He advise
had found it could not court martial
charged with compromise of SCI mater
a fourth was being sought. The classified material has not
position that journalists were immune from prosecution
regardless of their connection in any case of unauthorized
disclosure of classified information. Mr. Rubino distributed
for information the text of a recent public speech by the
Attorney General on intelligence and the law. Mr. Kelly
asked if anyone had addressed the legal implications of
journalists suborning government employees to violate the
Espionage Statutes. Mr. Rubino said he knew of no action
to that end in Justice. advised that NSA was
re-examining its dissemination lists with a view to limiting
them in the interest of better protection for sensitive
data. (C)
been recovered. In response to a question from
Mr. Rubino said Justice seemed to be still hold
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h. Physical Security Standards distributed
copies of the first draft of the propose revision of the
1973 USIB Physical Security Standards; commended the work
of group members in developing them; and asked SECOM
members to convey any comments they had to their working
group representatives. A number of members asked that
consideration be given to classifying the standards to
preclude their availability to hostile elements contemplating
penetration of U.S. facilities. (U)
ITEM 3: DCID 1/7
The Chairman summarized actions to develop a new draft
of this directive, and asked for member comments on the
current version distributed to members on 13 March.
Mr. Welch said the Navy was concerned about potential
problems arising from section 5.a(l) of the draft on
release of classified information to foreign nationals
officially integrated into a U.S. agency. He withdrew his
reservation when assured by Mr. Anderson that since national
policy specifies that disclosure be made to governments and
not to foreign individuals, foreign integrees would be
considered as representing their governments and hence be
eligible to receive classified material their governments
25X1 A were entitled to. said CIA coordination of the
draft developed a view t at the NOFORN control should be
authorized on an exemplary as opposed to an exclusionary
basis. It was agreed that the CIA reservation would be
provided the staff for referral to the Office of the
Secretary of Defense for their comments in view of past
OSD (PR) objections to the exemplary approach. All other
members concurred in the draft DCID as presented. (U)
ITEM 4: Old Business
a. The Chairman, referring to the DIA member's
memorandum dated 28 January 1980, advised that the
occasionally found marking "sensitive" was not sanctioned,
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and said that the staff was developing a proposal for
SECOM consideration. (U)
b. reminded members who had not yet done
so to prove e responses to SECOM-D-136, dated 14 March,
asking for current data on contact points for the exchange
of SCI denials information. (U)
a. proposed consideration of training courses
for persons who adjudicate personnel security cases for
SCI access. He said there was a need for DCI guidance in
this area and he recommended that the Investigative Standards
Working Group take the lead. All members supported this
recommendation and the matter was assigned to the working
group for study and report. (U)
25X1 A b. suggested the need for security consideration
of persons app ying for sensitive access positions who are
active adherents of groups such as the 25X1 A
which has been involved in the compromise icia
secrets. Mr. Rubino advised that the Department of Justice
might be able to develop questions which could be put to
applicants to address this concern but which would avoid
improper interference with First Amendment privileges.
(U)
ITEM 6: Next Meeting
The Chairman scheduled the next regular meeting of
the Committee for Wednesday, 7 May 1980, at CIA Headquarters.
(U)
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