NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AUTHORITY MINUTES OF MEETING HELD IN ROOM 214, DEPARTMENT OF STATE BUILDING, ON WEDNESDAY, 16 OCTOBER 1946 AT 11:15 A. M.

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25X1A9a M Secretary of State f.or Research and intelligence. Assistant Secretary of State Donald Russell 27 : CIA-RDP84-00951 ROO Op020045-9 25, COPY NO. (SPECIAL DISTRIBUTION) NATIONAL.INTELLIGENCE AUTHORITY. Minutes of MeetinP, held in Room 214, De artment of State as-L .on Wednesday,_ b October g , at 11:15 a.m MEMBERS PRESENT Acting Secretaryof State Dean Acheson, in the Chasir Secretary of. War Robert P. Patterson Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal Fleet Admiral - William. D, Leahy, Personal Representative of the President General Hoyt B. Vandenberg, Director OP Central Intelligence ALSO PRESENT' Under Secretary of the Navy John L. Sullivan William A Eddy Special Assistant to the Mr. John D. Hickerson, Department or State Mr. Dean Rusk,, War Department Captain Robert L.,.Dennison, USN Mr. 'Edward R Saunders, CIG SECRETARIAT Mr. James S. Lay, Jr., Secretary, N.I,A. NIA $th Meeting HS/L' C- ys Ap~iroved PorReelease 2001 07127 : IAFIDP84-0.0951 R000400020045-9 Ir Approved For Release:2001 /27 : CIA-RDP84-00951 ROO 400020015-9 S E C R E T 1., CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE GROUP BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 1948 SECRETARY ACHESON said that he had received a recommenda- tion by the CIG3udget Review Board that the NIA approve and sign an authoriz :tion to the Director of Central Intelligence to submit a budget of spegi?fied amount for the fiscal year 19+8: He said that Genexia1?Vandenberg; had been asked to talk to the NIA about this recommendation. GENERAL VANDENBERG explained that he did not think the NIA wanted a detailed discussion'of this proposed budget, but he had brought men along who could explain any point the NIA questioned. SECRETARY FORRESTAL asked how much money the CIG planned to spend during the. current fiscal year. GENERAL VANDENBERG stated the amount now available to CIG for the,, conduct of present operations. He explained that many of the CIO personnel, were now being paid by the participating departments rather than by CIG. In 19+.8 it was proposed,. that CIG would reimburse the departments fpr any personnel assigned to CYG. He felt-that this was proper since CIG would be submit- ting a separate budget for 19.48 SECRETARY ACHESON asked whether this meant that the pro- posed budget was not based upon the present Presidential directive establishing NIP and CIG. GENERAL VANDENBERG stated that the proposed bud?;rt was based on the present Presidential directive, He said that it was de6igne4 to cover CIG activities which would grow out of existing NIA directives.! He explained that it was visualized that this budget would necessarily be larger than normal during the period of training and establishment of overseas operations. Once personnel had been established in overseas posts, expenses would only be required to take care of normal turnover of personnel. It was contemplated, therefore, that this might be the highest budget CIG Mould have to submit. SECRETARY PATTERSON,asked for an explanation of Ghe breakdown of vouchered and unvouchered funds. GENERAL VANDENBERG explained that this contemplated using vouchered funds for domestic activities and unvouchered funds for all foreign activities. He said they used this basis for vouchered funds in an effort to approximate the basis used by other Government departments. He said thatthheswwou.lda?iike to keep unvouchered funds to a minimum necessary o security. SECRETARY ACHESON asked what the proposed budget would be if personnel were not assigned from departments on a reimburs- able basis. GENERAL VANDENBERG said that he was unable to estimate such a. figure since he did not know how many GIG personnel would be service personnel or others assigned from departments, He explained that this budget was based on the total personnel required, including any service personnel. at their comparable civilian grades and salaries.. He said that if NIA so desired, .he would attempt to make another guess, but explained that it would be very difficult to arrive at a more accurate estimate, . at this time. SECRET NIA Sth Meeting Approved, For-Release 2001/07/27: CIA 4RI P8446951 Rb00400020045-9 Approved For Release 20.01/0 7 : CIA-RDP84-00951R0004 D02004 9 S E C PE T ADMIRAL LEAHY.a.greed that this budget was bound t'o'b nothing more than a guess. SECRETARY ACHESON believed that-the budget prople would raise the point that the' reimbursable feature in this budget would undoubtedly create some duplication between CIG and the departmental budgets. 25X1A9a GENERAL VANDENBERG stated that this point had already been discussed with the Bureau of the. Budget. ADMIRAL LEAHY questioned the size of the estimate for Personnel and Administration. ranted that this figure might look large, but ex : a' ne a , wa"s designed to furnish support for all CIG activities at home and abroad. He said that CIcJ had used the experience of the Joint Logistics Plans CommittL.o and the. Army Service Forces, which indicated that 25% for '1~i1_pport was the best planning figure. This proposed budget was based'on the assumption that CIG would not depend on the departments for any supplies or support. Therefore, the CIGfigure was actually less than the normal-25 planning: figure. Of this, a large proportion would be engaged in communications work alone. In addition, all suppliers and services for"all CIG offices are included in the figures shown ' f,or Personnel and Adiiiinistration. ADMIRAL LEAHY expressed the belief t,~et many of the func- tions enumerated were now being performed ty existing agencies who might be able to handle CIG requirements more economically.' said that this procedure would be-ques-. tionable since it would Jeopardize security in the purchase and shipment of supplies; He also noted that the'actu.a number of personnel engaged in normal.procurement, supplies, _p rsonnel, and medical activities was actually very small for the size of the organization.. ADMIRAL LEAHY'then expressed the feeling that L.he budget for Research. and Evaluation looked rather large. SECRETARY FORRESTAL asked -how many people, OSr11 )i,nnd engaged in similar activities,. 25X1A9a MR, RUSSELL said that OSS had at one time all- Al. 1,400 engaged in research. He explained, however, that i.l, state Department had taken over the remainder of that . or;-,?; ization and, therefore, State's research personnel should 1.., =eided to the CIG figure if they were to be compared with OS, . noted that OSS had not at.temp#.rl to?.cover Latin ral MacArthur's theater, as C]_+_T would do. He also explained that the.departments had asked CI.G to in- vestigate taking over the Washington Document Center, CIG had also been asked to establish an information center. He said that the Research and Analysis Branch of OSS had been used only because it was considered the best norm for estimating purposes, except that GIG would cover much more territory in their activities. ADMIRAL LEAHY asked what the Washington Doentnent Center GENERAL VANDENBERG explained that this unit was exploiting-, documents from Japan for certain intelligence purposes. He explained that it was not a permanent unit, but will probably' complete its work in about a year and a half. SECRET NIAth Meeting Approved For Release 2001/07/27 IA=T IC =~0~3TR06=0D20045-19- Approved For Release. 2001/2 020045-9 27 ; CIA-RDP84-009518000 0 ) ) ., ( Annroved For Release 2001/07/27 Cliff=`ETTT91ROiT0400020045=9"` S E,C_R E T MR. RUSSELL asked if CIG could not call its office some- thing, other than Research and Evaluation. He explained that this name was so similar to that used by the State Department that it might cause difficulty in obtaining appropriations since it would appear to involve duplication. GENERAL VANDENBERG agreed that he would change the name of the CIG office. ments.,1 He noted that both he and the members of the Intelli- gence Advisory Board were watching that point very carefully. .national slant. He noted that even when CIG receives finished intelligence from the departments, CIG still has to analyze it and find out whether it is pointedup from a national point,of view. Each agency normally prepares intelligence from its own departmental viewpoint.". There must, therefore, always be in CIG a research unit which looks at the intelligence from the viewpoint of all departments rather than any one. He assured NIA that CIG was not going to do the same research done by the departments, but rather would cover marginal areas and fill gaps not covered by any department. MR. EDDY stated that originally the figure for. CIG Research and Evaluation had struck him as being rather large. Further examination indicated thdLtCIG w4;s being, asked to do research on,,large areas which .rio department can do. He thought that CIG might well have to build up its research.organization to the size indicated in. the budget. GENERAL VANDENBERG.assured the NIA that CIG had no intent to infringe upon the fields of primary interest to the, depart-. MR. RUSSELL noted that if the CIG budget was based an, the former OSS Research and Analysis Branch, this would create complications, since the State Department has already asked for funds for the successor to.that Branch. GENERAL VANDENBERG explained that CIG had not used OSS,as a basis in order to establish a similar or duplicative unit CIG had only used O5S as an example of the research personnel required to cover certain areas of the world: He explained that CIG'required_this research personnel to put together the finished intelligence from the departments plus information collected by CIG itself, and to give all this material a SECRETARY FORRESTAL asked what Congressiona"cS~-~ General Vandenberg had appeared before. GENERAL VANDENBERG said that he had always appeared before ,the Appropriations Committee. COLONEL HARRIS explained that the,plan was to hide the CIG budget in the various departmental budgets. Then at an agreed time, as arranged by the Bureau of the Budget, General Vandenberg would appear before the Appropriations Committees to ADMIRAL LEAHY asked what objection the NIA would have to authorizing the Director of Central Intelligence to proceed to attempt to obtain the proposed budget. He thought that if this amount could be obtained it could certainly be used judiciously in furnishing intelligence services. If there was a possibility of obtaining this amount, he thought General Vandenberg should at least try to get it. If the budget should be out, It would then be necessary to out the cloth to fit the reduced amount. justify the CIG budget as a unit. SECRET NIA 8th Meeting Approved For Relea a 2001 S E C R E T 25X1A9a 27 : CIA-RDP84-00951 ROO M 00020045-9 in answer to a question by Secretary' Forres , only two individuals in the Bureau of the Budget saw the integrated CIG budget. GENERAL VANDENBERG explained that both of these men have been investigated for security by CIG. SECRETARY PATTERSON asked what the final form of the CIG budget would be. He wondered whether it would appear anywhere as so many dollars-for CIG activities. GENERAL VANDENBERG said that it would appear nowhere in that form. SECRETARY FORRESTAL said.it was his understanding that it would be buried in the budgets of the various depar i menbs GENERAL VANDENBERG confirmed that this was tlir' arrangement which had-been wdrked out with the concurrence of t,ti Bureau of the Budget. SECRETARY ACHESON,'in answer to.a question.by Admiral Leahy, said.that this meeting. had been called at his request. He had thought.. it would be wise,' before approving hwlget of this size, to have a clear idea as to wny this action l.iad been taken. He thought that the discussion had been vei. , !ir--lpful in that regard. SECRETARY FORRESTAL stated that the ;impor.tant 'Ili i..jig, as he was sure General Vandenberg realized, was that C]( ;hou_ld screen the use of its money, particularly its persoi:iji-l., so that there wouldbe no.revulsion in the next Congress. MR. RUSSELL then made a helpful suggestion as t the basis for estimating the proportion, of vouchored and a.r~vouchored funds. THE NATIONAL' INTELLIGENCE AUTHORITY: ApproV,ed and signed a memorandum authorizing tho Director of Central Intelligence to submit a budget of specified amount for the fiscal year 19+8; SECRET NIA 8~rh 'Meeting if Approved; For Release 2001/07/27 : CI-RDP84-00951 R000400020045-9