A CIA WATCHDOG MIGHT DESTROY ITS CHARGE

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ARIA OR COUNTRYIS) ORGANi A !. SECRET (Wh.n F111.d In) FUNCTIONS S TOPICS Histc,zica (Thermo PIRSONALITIES 0000MENT 1953-56 7, staff File-Congress Newspaper Clippings fax Copies) These thermofax copies of newspaper clippings contain the text of official published statements and selected editorial opinion regarding Congressional proposals to establish a "Watch nog" Committee for CIA. (Note in file indicates there are about 50 items selected from several thousand in Colonel Grogan's office.) FO" 2523 /PITIOM/ ~P/MIOY/ HISTORICAL STAFF SOURCE INDEX SECRET NO,1 LOCATIONI HS/HC- NOV 26 1956 W Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161R0001001100 PROVIDENCE (It.l.) JOI )RNAL Ciro..: h. 53,259 S 181,704 Front Edit Other rage raga /rage STATINTL A CIA... Watchdog Might Destroy Its C arm Sen. Mike is (D-Mont) is displeased with our foreign intelli- gence t;ystem. "We were caught short," he says, when fateful events burst out recently in Hungary and he Middle East. The senator pro- 4oses, therefore, to introduce again at the next session of Congress his measure to set up a congressional watchdog committee to keep tabs on the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). The arguments in favor of such a watchdog committee are persuasive. CIA is a hush-hush agency about which Congress and the public know virtually nothing. Allen W. Dulles, its director, has au- thority to hire and fire personnel with- out regard to any ex- isting laws. Funds for the agency are concealed deliberate- ly under appropria- tions for other agen- an anachronism in a democratic gov- ernment, and an agency which, in less able hands, could be wide open to abuse. The Hoover Commission made a careful examination of CIA last year. It "recognized the need for secrecy, yet recommended as desir- able the proposal to set up a con- gressional w a t c h d o g committee. Such a committee functions effec- tively in the sensitive field of atomic energy. A similar one, the Hoover Commission suggested, could assure Congress and the public that CIA was operating "in an efficient, efrec- tive and reasonably economical man- ner." The other side has some persua. sive arguments, too- so persuasive, in fact, that Senator Illans- field's proposal was voted down, 59 to 27, in the Senate last April. By its very nature, CIA must operate in secrecy. It is an es- pionage organization. Dulles cos, and Mr. Dulles can spend t h a t money "without regard to the pro- visions of law and regulations re- lating to the expenditure of gov- ernment funds." No information as to the size of the CIA ever has been made public. Guesses have suggested that it may employ between 5,000 and 30,000 per- sons and may have an annual operat- ing budget in the neighborhood of a half billion dollars. These guesses may be wide of the mark. Even so. CIA must be a large and expensive agency. The fact that it functions behind a cloak of secrecy makes it Its agents are scattered around the globe, gathering information vital to the security of the United States. 1-however repugnant the idea of spying may be to the average American, the fact is that a nation like ours with vast influence and responsibilities in the w o r l d couldn't function effectively, and perhaps couldn't survive, without something like the CIA. In an un- easy world, it is as essential to our security as a military establish- ment. The danger in Senator Mansfield's proposal is that a congressional- watchdog committee might destroy the effectiveness of the CIA by leak-' ing some of its secrets, perhaps inadvertently. Surely, any such com- mittee would have to be made up of the most responsible and depend- able members of Congress. It would have to be a "select" committee and great care would have to be exer- cised in the selecting for a sinzle irresponsible or headline-grabbing congressman could cause untold damage. One has only to recall that Senator McCarthy, itching to get a look at CIA, once announced that he had "more than 100 pages of evi- dence of bungling, incompetence, in- efficiency, waste and Communist in- filtration in CIA." Current happenings put CIA in a new light. Most of the previous as- sessments of its work have dealt largely with abstracts. The recent events in Poland, Hungary and the Middle East, however, are tangible events; they provide something con- crete against which the performance of CIA can be measured. The public should not expect to have all the details spread out on the record. It would seem useful and de- sirable, however, for a special com- mittee of Congress to inquire as to how well or how badly CIA func- tioned in anticipating the recent events in Central Europe and the Middle East. Out of such an inquiry could come a better judgment on the value of Senator Mansfield's pro- posal. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 APR 1 1 1956 Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161R00010 ESTABLISH7SENT O? A JOINT COM. MITTEE ON CENTRAL INTELLI- GENCE The Senate resumed the consideration of the csncurrent resolution (8. Con. Fees. 2.1 to establish a Joint Committee on Central Intelligence. Mr. McCARTHY. Mr. President, will the Senator from California yield me 2 minutes? Mr. KNOWLAND. I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished junior Senator from Wisconsin. Mr. MCCARTHY. Mr. President, I have in my hand a documentation of in- competence, theft, and Communist In- filtration in the CIA. I shall not intro- duce it into the Rscoav, because It may contain some security Information. But I want the Chair to know that the min- ute the proposed committee is estab- lished, I will promptly turn over all this information to the committee, Mr. LANGER. Mr. President, will the majority leader yield me 1 minute? Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. I yield my friend from North Dakota 2 minutes. Mr. LANGER. As a cosponsor of the concurrent resolution, r wish to reply to the reference made by the distin- guished Senator from South Dakota [ Mr. CASE) that the staff of the committee which would be created could not be trusted. He did not say anything about the 1,000 or 5,000 or 10,000 employees of the CIA. I would trust a staff made up of 5 or 10 or 25 persons as much as I would one, two, three, or five thousand employees working for the CIA, whose names we do not know, not one of whom has been confirmed by the Senate. Mr. MCCLELLAN, Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum. The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. BISLx in the chair). The clerk will call the roll. Mr. KNOWLAND. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the time not be charged to the other side, because I do not know whether the majority leader has other commitments. Mr. McCLELLAN. Mr. President. I understand the majority leader does not have any other commitments. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time has about expired. The clerk will call the roll. The legislative clerk called the roll. and the following Senators answered to their names: Aiken Bridges Allott Bush Barkley Butler Barrett Beall Bender Bennett Bible Bricker Curtis Daniel Dickson Flanders Kerr Pastore Freer Knowland Payne Fulbrlght Kurhel Potter George Laird Purtell Goldwater Langer Robertson Gbre Lehman Russell Green Malone Saltonstall Hayden Man,flelA Schoeppel Henning. Martin, ;uwa Scott Hleken looper Martin. Pa. Smith, means Hill McCarthy Smith, N. J. Holland )Vc(.lcllan Stennis Hruska McNamara Symington Humphrey Manikin Thy. Jackson Mor'.. Watkins Jenner Mundt Welker STATINTL Douglas Johnston. B. C. Saltonstall Duff Knowland Schoeppel Dworshak Kuchel Scott Eastland laird amitb. N. J. Ellender Malone Stennis Flanders Martin, Iowa Symington Freer Martin, Pa. Thy* Goldwater McClellan Watkins Hayden Milllkln WUey kennings O'Mahoney ' Williams Hlckenlooper Potter Wofford Holland Purteli Young druska Robertson NOT VOTLNG-10 IT" Smothers Long Sparkman Magnuson Monroney Johnson. Tex. Murray Wiley Anderson Johnston, b. C. Neely Williams Byrd Kefauver. Neuberger Wofford (-haver Kencaedy O'Mabonev Young Oeurgs The PRESIDING OFFICER. A quo- ruin is present. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. Presi- So the concurrent resolution (S. Con. Res. 2) was rejected. dent, I yield back the remainder of my '? time, with the and^rstanding that the opposition will do likewise. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time of the opposition has expired. The Senator from Texas has yielded back the luxe under.hls control. The question is on agreeing to Senate Concurrent Resolution 2. as amended. The yeas and nays have been ordered, and the clerk will call the roll. The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll. Mr. GEORGE (when his name, was called). On this vote. I have a pair with the senior Senator from Virginia (Mr. BYRD). If the Senator from Virginia were present and voting, he would vote "nay." If I were at liberty to vote, I would vote "yea." I withhold my vote. The rollcall was concluded. Mr. CLEMENTS. I announce that the Senators from New Mexico (Mr. ANDERSON and Mr. CiHAVEZ], the Senator from Louisiana IMr.I.ONCl, the Senator lfom Washir ton IMr MAGNUSON], the Senator from Oklahoma [Mr. MONRO- HEY), the Senator from Florida [Mr. SMATHERSI, and the Senator from Ala- bama [Mr. SPARKMAN 1 are absent on official business. The Senator from Virginia (Mr. BYRD] 1s absent because of illness. I further announce that if present and voting, the Senator from New Mexico (Mr. CHAVEZ), the Senator from Wash- )ngton [Mr. MACNUSONI, the Senator from Florida [Mr. SMAIIIERS], and the Senator from Alabama [Mr. SPARKMAN] would each vote "yea." Mr. SALTONSTALL. I announce ..that the Senator from New York [Mr. Ives] is absent because of Illness. If present and voting, the Senator from New York would vote "nay." The result was announced-yeas 27. Capebart Douglas Carlson Duff Cane, S. Dak. sastland Clemente tllender Cotton trrin YEAS-27 Barrett Jenner More. Clements Kefauver Mundt Ervin Kennedy Murray Fuibrtght Kerr Neely Gore Langer Neuberger Green Lehman Pastore Hill Mansfield Payne Humphrey McCarthy Smith, Maine Jackson McNamara Welker NAYS-S9 Aiken Bible Carlson Allott Bricker Case, N. J. Barkley Bridges Case, S. Dek. Beall Cotton Bender alt tirr Curtis Bennet' Cayehart Daniel Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 NEW YORK TIMES rr-is z ,b 1956 Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161R0001 , ita'it said, "were generally tno CONGRESS CHECK that secrrry t C. beclouds everything ;about C. I. A..; its! same - that Ina~equac[es area ost, its p'rsonnel. its erfiriency, poor organization existed and ON C.I.A. BACKED Hits Excessive Secrecy. Ay ALLEN DRURY ity has been built around it. Its The committee.- praised the is freed from practically everylPresident for appointing his own .Senate Rules Unit Gives Strong Support to Bill- special to The New Ywk Time.. WASHINGTON, Feb. 24-The Senate Rules Committee gave powerful endorsement today to the creation of a special "watch- dog" committee of Congress to supervise the activities of the Central Intelligence Agency. The C. I. A. Is the Govern- ment's super-secret agency for gathering Information abroad 'concerning the strength and in- ?tentions of other nations, review. "The C. I. A. has unquestion- ably placed itself above other Government agencies:. There has been no n gulag method:cal re- view of ihie agency other than Intelligence. But it offered these objections: 1. "The board will report its findings directly to the Presi- dent. No provision -ts made to a briefing Nhich jr, supplied tot require the board to maintain a few mewb'ls of selected sub Congressional liatson. e ? ? " ~ commltt.'ea 2. "The board functions eaaen? An equally tart minority re-' tiaily on a schedule of semi. port was given by the second- annual meeUnga and operates ranking ;nember of the Rulesl on a per diem and travel al- Committee. Senator Carl Hay- lowance. There is no rovls{ac den, Democrat of Arizona. He for a continuous staff ? ? ? argued that through these sub- capable of conducting eompre- committees-of the House and henaive surveys. The board is Senate Armed Services and Ap- a part-time survey." propriations Committees-Con-13. "The board will report its In. greys continues to maintain "su formation, good or bad, to, the pervasion over the operations of President, thus strengthening that agency to an entirely ade- the already tight control of quate degree." the Executive over C. I. A." Senator Hayden said that the charge that Congress did not The committee noted that Mr. sufrlciently control C. I. A. was Duties had opposed a Joint Con- gressional committee for feat that sufficient security would not be maintained. It cited the Joint Atomic Energy Committee as proof that this fear was proved for Senate considerationlA "mistaken slid t'riorieous as- a bill by Senator Mike Mansficld,lsumptlon " Democrat of Montana, to create The Senate Armed Services a special committee, This group subcommittee on C. I. A. heard would supervise C, I. A. In thr,Nir. Dulles in closed session this same way Congress superviseslmorning. As usual, it refused to the Atomic Energy Commission intake public what Mr. Dulles The committee would receive-said. In a report heavy with criti- t'ism of C. I. A.'s present opera- tions, the Rules Committee sp- iz~v,uuu ror its nrsc year. The bill is opposed by Presi- dent Eisenhower and by Allen The Rules Committee based Itsl chief argument for the Mansfield bill on the secrecy that sur- rounds the C. I. A. It recognized the need for much secrecy in gathering intelligence but said there was "a profound differ ence between an essential degree 1, of secrecy to achieve a specific' purpose, and secrecy for the mere sake of secrecy." The committee pointed out, groundless. Hoover Inquiries Cited The Rules Oonun;ttee majority W. Dulles, director of the C. I. A. pointed out thgt over the last The President recently createdisix years the C. 1. A. had been an eight-man citizen's advisorylinveatigsted four times by dif- board to study C. L.A.'s active-rent task forges of the Hoover ties and report directly to him; Commission concerning them. . , . I 'The suhstan.ei' of the findings Sees too Much Secrecy over the spread of theatFears,"" Zits failures An aura of superior-Thad gone uncorrected." STATINTL roved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 'AM NEW ` OR oved or Rele jA~2?Q J19 11 : CIA-R 0002-6 STATINTL , $10 ilow'stroAl" .~Y4.~f~Kw, f YI'1?3' ? dot FriteThgenceAk C y U t 1 ibtt hod it Uses to s t}t' d Might r; asxt>rts'rtti t, 3'an. t .Q n 'c t "' iri t3 alter Bedell Smith told are of th . nerican Legion this week tit Ulotxr t enrdiim oft Rtmod strength gth an t faf ar `too , - United States I;mtehl ic+ ,< t vice was as good as. or better' point tut that Ruasi4--1 ,.an, any In the world, ezcept yw? NspiU former Prexk3eRt Trumamn's ditty that of the Soviet Union. ', ass rted?belbl to the contrary--i The retiring chief of the Ceat*'ol Uniiimbtedl* Me a growing stock r of sitainia weapolim and that Irtelligence Agency--the' largest hea development of the MIG-15 to,i most important of the cort't- demonstrates= advantlsd tedbnical, cape- of agencies and sources that engfaeesing an4 ? production bilities )Ile the intelligence data ot1., a ;;ich our national policies depend TkIs argument last the tore of new the done much to Improve the ?problems new Eisenhower Administration faces,; -,;;ter of our service. it rages in SHAPE in Paris, and in sheer size, the United States it obviously will have to be settled ?..`elligence Service --- once the before the new President can det mine u t f o er u ure course In ? r hchild of Government-probably Ards that of any nation, pox- The foreign f Orent the who disagree with cur; exc.pting Russia's. No fig- of the factual grist and domestic upon n which ich h te lion Intelligence ntelligence estimates y .ussia's ability t to to supply pply Ica on the Central Intelligence r ncy's employes ever have been de public, but there are esti- t ed to be 0,000 to 16,000 per- employed by this one agency ne in the United States and i seas. in addition to other thou- "'As employed by the Army. y and Air Force. Iowever, the quality of the alvnes and factual data pro- e?1 by the Central Intelligence and its service counter- -.,; is not always commensurate i ttie size of the agencies. There .rural agreement with General t ti's estimate that the United ; 1,ttrs Intelligence Services are ,n:ong the lost in the world, and ? h'-re ia praise-here and abroad ,r the improvement in these 'seta in recent years. itut some observers believe that - British Intelligence Services ...Ili l:rhaps 3,000 employes and rt'a, with perhaps 300, produce ,,,t results-in the form of facts .nd analyses that ^re fully as use- 0 in guiding national policy, and i ?rhaps more accurate-than those ,: ,.iuced by our much larger +;;rrcies. The Major Question '!'lie comparative worth of the 'elllgence services of the world ?~ ere to not, however, the yard- -i. by which their success should measured, The sole criterion by our agencies should br d is whf,ther? or not they can the area ea(n had an equal nu,n? logical and intelligence functions, ' er attccessfully the question bur of aircraft assigns.! are ainnna the problems )fr. Dulles tarnng is Russia. Unless In-{ The official rstlmatce of Rus' mu?t solve. If devotion, Interest, c ran answer that questionlsian air strength run as high H t. t+nalytical mind and a large ea>r"nxble accuracy and con-; 18.000 or more operating a.tl ., L' , ,? K nd of experience will solve attr national policies and S11A1'E's eFUniate o' i:s 'tl,?\ir. Dulles will find the fnundr;i on ignnrant-c and?quiremenla to mart the tht,,' V, makers will he Minded 'Soviet air pn,'.rr in A:urlpe, the answers must be found no doubt that th,a $64 , clusico of GI-Le( a and 'rut i i , -? a itarly the answer to the ~,ro? e quail on is bring an-,tat more than 9.0(A rhnr?, ":on how steam is Rijn- then' Yet there Cr.- a nur.;t,?-r c,r r,- ?~ a ofrirs n gt l ''tP~ #>~ 4,` ~1 as 002/01/24 : CI'A-F~E)~8At-0Q ~6 CI x'66100110002-6 most United States Intelligence more than 18,000 operating air-, estimates are based center their?craft with fuel, and they doubt fire`ehlefly on the military cart-nudging by our own experience mates made by the armed services l Rrtssia's ability to maintain an to- Their criticism is by no means, hmated 20.000 reserve aircraft in conclusive, but it has produced operating condition. enough examples of doubtful ex-i Still other critics point out that trepolation, dubious estimates and of Russia's submarine fleet, usually questionable analyses to suggest estimated at 300 to 400, only about that'another study of the methods1 twenty to thirty--Instead of 100 or used in Intelligence rrporting'moie--hs%,@ actually been tabbed might be illuminating. and identified as modern snorkel "Safety factors"-arbitrtir1*ly pp? tyf1 r us the differences between plied-era freely used, for instance those who make our Intelligence to pad and build up estimates of estimates and those who criUoise Communist strength received from' theta are of such an order of lower echelon commands. magnitude that only an Intelli-. Ili one instance some 600 planes iri'nce Solomon can adjudicate and weep summarily added to an esti- decide. mate of Soviet air strength re- Allen Dulles, who succeeds Gen erttl Smith as the head of the Con- ceived from a lower command, and ttal intelligence Agency, is thus tho"Intelligence officer, when ques- called upon to be Washington's, tioiied, said this figure represented new Solomon. It. ylll be a tough a henfety factor." johir, lhil'es Is th1. first civilian toI in another instance one Commu- heart this agency and he must work mitt airfield out of some seven or with and coordinate military agen- eight known to be In a certain area rice jealous of their prerogatives.' Iwas photographed. ? The number Thu groundwork of a sound intelli?I lof planes identified in the photo- genie system has been laid by, graph was multiplied by two or-,'Ge-erat Stnith but much remains the theory that at least, half nf,to be aurae. those based on that airfield were A study of the me~hods of col- ,tn the air or at other fields. lertl''n and analysis and evalue- ''he resultant figure was then lion; reduction of the`. number of Emultiplied by seven or eight r,n th,? pe 1isun ionlInt the field butgcoordi-a .lhenr th - -t.r.1._ ... that the y ti e and they question `-whether the' could use more than 4,000 of time against European objectives from Norway to Italy. ? Snorkel Figure. Cited NOV 2 8 1956 Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161R000 STATINTL .LEG' (N.C.) NEWS OBSER ER Circ.: m. 123,250 S. 133,573 Congressional Probe Of CIA Demanded By. Bascom N. Tirnrnons. ? Chief of 'i l,c N,?u c and Observer's Washington WASl11NI,TON?-'1'he enigma of ;; e Central Intelligence Agency. ur.hl now the most huh huh c.hcrntu: in our peacetime history, is about to be probed again, this time more pferc- ingly, than in the previous inquiries by committees named by President Eisenhower. The director of CIA Is Allen Dulles, brother of Secretary of State John Foster Dulles. Leading the demand for a congressional investigation, which seems likely of approval is Senator Michael J. "Mike" Mansfield (D. Mont.), newly designated Senate ma- jority whip. CIA looms as the great unknown in the vast federal ea' a m*,ent set-up_ A *".'t of "what-is-it?" which would is case all ballyhoo of the agency been discouraged or repressed. spends an unspecified sun, of at half a billion dollars annually, 15,(00 employees, and ILs offices distributed in 40 buildings in and works. Others will admit no more es tender the .security I, o-- which Prsldent Eisen, vast intelktgetlue agency, sup- nation] 4 ''cat information amnuni, i. ..recatr F?nd how coni;plctc-,t 1-. has becn qucstmned in high quarters j ,iii during the la.;l rnunth, When two developments of world shal(i.ng inmportance. the Polish and Hungarian rr?~olt.s against Com. munism and the l.raeli-British-French in% anion of Egypt, have both evi- dently caught the CIA flat-toted. Before that both CIA Dulles and State Department Dulles were charged in diplomatic circles with badly fumbling the Egyptian situa- tion which tell to Egyptian Preal- dent G A. N;.sser's seizure of the Suez canal. Back in 1930? three sears after CIA was formed, it apparently gave no accurate tntormation on the invasion of South Korea HeTAre that it had been mildly cnt;ei7ed in 1949 by the first lloo%er cnnuni~sion as "not hav- ing acbicved the desired degree of proficiency and dependability." So fill', Mansfield's plan has been for a joint con?ressivnat watchdog committee to supervise CIA activi- tics, similar rn the joint committee which has kept check on the Atomic Lnergy Commission, with a record of cooperation and accunmplishment. The move to X-ray the enigma comes at a time when plans are being completed for a 38 million dol. lar building for CIA. to concentrate at least 12,000 employees in nearby Virginia. The new building is referred to here as a "junior Pentagon." The most revealing stories about the CIA have been written by two magazine Writers, who evidently re- c?ehed much information from Dulles and other agency officials. They toll of secret codes, includlnn such Wun- drys as rnes..age, concealed nod ?r no 9ncon>i,icuous dot on a envelope. .cc?- tet U. S. Agents in constant dang.?r behind the Irn Curtain and a wealth of other cloak and dagger operations. Mansfield and other senators con- cede that the agency undoubtedly ga- thers a wealth of information about Communist activity, otherwise unob- tainable, and that it may use-tome of its millions to promote anti-Cotm- munist activity in Eruope and Asia. What they cannot understand Is how CIA fails to tip off the White House in advance about the big up- coming critical developments. They have made the same criticism of the State Department tinder John Foster Dulles, and some arb harsh enough to say that both Dulles broth- ers might well be retired. But Allen Dulles won a reputation during World War 1, as U. S. ambassador td Swit- zerland, when he reputedly negotiated for the surrender of German troops in Italy before Germany itself capi- tulated, which made him the choice to conduct this vast agency. Last year President Eisenhower named a watchdog board of eight prominent individuals headed by Dr. James R. Killian, president of Mass- achusetts Institute of Technology, to check on CIA every six months. Pre- vious inquiries had been headed by Lt. Gen. James H. Doolittle U.S.A.F., retd. and U. Gen. Mark Clark USA recd. Neither of these three has made public any cornprehen. ke report on the enigma. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 APR31ib For,Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 Rda Versation a'1t'1 the Lt t..%, it from Arizona. aJ The Senate; f r r.l ' ', as has so drafted the unantmo,i.t c (. e tit request, and In- tends to prop,) i , ir" as soon as the ab- sence of a quo. tic can be suggested. The VICN, PF. ;'3IllI:;1"C. Is there ob- jection to th?t iduuihnons-consent re- quest to proce si to the present consid- eration of Set..t'e Concurrent Resolu- tion 2? There being 1m objection, the Senate proceeded to coltui(ler the resolution (S. Con, Res. 2) to establish a Joint Commit- tee on Central Intirlliucnce, which had ESTABLISHMENT OF JOINT COM- MITTEE ON CENTRAL INTELLI- GENCE Mr. JOI'IN80N of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, I ask unanimous consent that the Senate proceed to the consideration of Calendar No. 1595, Senate Concurrent Resolution 2. The VICE PRESIDENT. The clerk will state the concurrent resolution by title, The LEGISLATIVE CLERK. A resolution IS. Con. Res. 2) to establish a Joint Com- mittee on Central Intelligence. The VICE PRESIDENT. Is there ob- jection to the present consideration of the concurrent resolution? Mr. HAYDEN. Mr. President, reserv- Ing the right to object, I should like to inquire if this Is the measure on which an agreement to vote next Wednesday is to be proposed. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. The Sen- ator from Texas proposes to propound such a unanimous-consent agreement as awn as there is it quorum call. The Senator from Texas will propound the agreement in accordance with the con- been reported from the ('ommttterr on Rules and Administration with amend- ments. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, I suggest the lih:?ence of a quorum. The VICE PRESII)EN'I'. The Secre- tary will call the rnll. The Chief Clerk proceeded to cal] the roll. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded. The VICE PRESIDENT. Without ob- jection, It Is so ordered. dent, on behalf of thyself, the distin- guished minority leader [Mr. KNow- LANDI, the distinguished junior Senator from Montana I Mr. MANSPIELDI, and the distinguished senior Senator from Ari- zona [Mr. HAYDar. i, I have sent to the desk a proposed unanimous-consent agreement. I asked that It be read, The VICE PRESIDENT. The proposed agreerent will be stated. The legislative clerk read as follows: Ordered, That, 'effective (in Wednesday. April 11. 1959, at the c,incluslon of routine morning business, during the further con- sideration of the concurrent resolution (S. Oon. Res. 2) to establish a Joint Committee on Central Intclllgenoe, debate on any amendment. motion, or appeal, except a mo- tion to lay on the table, shall be limited to 1 hour, to be equally divided and con- trolled by the mover of any such amendment or motion and the majority leader: Provided, That in the event the majority leader is in favor of any such enienument or motion, the time in oppoattion thereto shall be con- trolled by the minority leader or some Sen- ator designated by him: Provided further, That no amendment that is not germane to the provisions of the said a.acurrent reso- lution shall be received. Ordered further, 'I'ii it on the question of the final passage of the said concurrent res- olution debate shall be limited to 2 hours, to be equally divided and controlled, respec- tively, by the majority and minority leaders: Provided, That the 60d Icaders, or either of then, may, from the time under their con- trol on the passage of the said concurrent resolution. allot additional time to any Sen. ator or Senatura during the consideration of any amendment, motion, or appeal, The VICE PRESIDENT. Is tixwre ob- jection to the proposed unanimous-con- sent agreement? Mr. JOHNSTON of South Carolina. Mr. President, the conference report on the farm bill probably will reach the Senate on either Wednesday or Thursday of this week. The conference report will be a privileged matter, when it Is re- ceived, will it not? The VICE PRESIDENT. Yes: it will be a privileged matter, and may be taken up whenever it Is received, STATINTL Mr. JOHNSTON of South Carolina. I thank the Chair. The VICE PRESMWr. Is there ob- jection to the proposed unanimous-con. sent agreement? Without objection. the agreement is entered. HOUR OF MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 11 Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate convenes on Wednesday next, it convene at 11 o'clock a. m. The VICE PRESIDENT. Is there ob- ection? Without objection, it Is so or- dered. IMOISLATIVE PROGRAM Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, I should like to state that it Is the Intention of the leadership on both sides of the aisle to have our action on the unfinished business, the concurrent reso- lution relating to a Joint Committee on Central Intelligence, concluded at an early hour on Wednesday, perhaps at 1:30 or 2 p. in. If the House adopts the conference report on the farm bill by that time, it is the Intention of the lead- ership to have action on the pending con- current resolution followed immediately by the consideration of the conference report on the farm bill, and to have the Senate remain in session until late that evening, if necessary, in order to try to dispose of that measure. Mr. DOUGLAS. Mr. President.- Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. I yield to my friend, the Senator from Illinois. Mr. DOUGLAS. Let me ask the emi- nent majority leader what his plans are in regard to taking up the so-called bank-holding bill. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. At the mo- ment we have no plans In regard to that bill. The distinguished chairman of the subcommittee handling that measure is in Yugoslavia. I called him this morn- ing, to see whether that measure could be brought up today. But until he re- turns-and I am not informed when he .will be ready to have that measure brought before the Senate-I cannot make any definite announcement in that regard. I shall inform my friend, the Senator from Illinois, as soon as the Senator from Virginia tMr. ROBERTSON) returns, and we can ascertain the'sched- ule from him. Mr. DOUGLAS. I thank the Senator from Texas. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 the new CTn 11eadyaarters buli1Oh? and other Incidents in it e past- lea have onlj intensifled ttIV i It a - rst inS ing that such a committee is esttabhslie& by the Congress. ESTABLISHMENT OF JOINT C,'r)M- MITTE'E ON CENTRAL INTELLI- GENCE The Senate resumed the consideration of the concurrent resolution (S. Con. Res. 2) to establish a Joint Committee on Central Intelligence. Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, at this time I ask unanimous consent that at the conclusion of my remarks on Sen- ate Concurrent Resolution 2, a resolu- tion to establish a Joint Committee on Central Intelligence, there be Inserted in the Rscoan a number of newspaper editorials and articles on the proposal to establish such a joint committee and also letters of approval of the resolu- tion by the Citizens' Committee for the Hoover Report in the western area of the United States and a letter signed by Mr. Clarence Francis, chairman of the Citizens' Committee for the Hoover Re- port, both of which are in favor of the adoption of Senate Concurrent Resolu- tion 2. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection? The Chair hears none, and it is so ordered. (See exhibit 1.1 Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, to- day the Senate i? considering Senate Concurrent Resolution 2. a concurrent resolution to create a Joint Committee on Central Intelligence. I have intro- duced similar measures on two previous occasions. However, this is the first time the proposal has come to the floor of the Senate for consideration. The concurrent resolution the Senate is con- sidering today was cosponsored by 34 of my distinguished colleagues in the Senate. The events of the past year have made It imperative that such a committee as is proposed be authorized before the ad- journment of Congress this summer. This concurrent resolution was reported to the Senate by a majority of the mem- bers of the Committee on Rules and Administration. To begin with, let me say that because of the very nature of the Central Intelli- gence Agency, I think It is important that a Joint congressional committee be established for the purposes of making continued studies of the activities of the Agency and problems related to the gathering of intelligence affecting the national security. The Hoover commis- sion recommendations, the recent Presi- dential appointment of a commission to study CIA, the conflict over the site of I feel that a j(, '1%t congreast; r,%I com- mittee should be eST.cbl,s ier[ dnd that the CIA should, a.,A )$atterOF/A%/. i;,t,?p that committee as 'fully andc3seunAatt informed as possiblt l)rth t'kspect to H,a activities. Allen Dulles, Dire t it of CIA, tr., y make no mistakes in essessing lntrh'- gence, but he should .'ot be the 1Lnie judge in matte: v?hior have to do /'th the intentions c l )thc r nations ?aith respect to war an,i ate.ce. Mr. President, as yoli know, the Peoei- dent recently appo r1cd an eight: man board to review pericc I :ally the i r Lion's intelligence actlvitiet This Is .A step forward, but not far ei vugh to reach the goal which I and the cc'tponsv'e of Sen- ate Concurrent Resohi'.(,t. 2 seek. Mr. MORSE. Mr 11.r' Ider.t, will the Senator from Montattta % OJ1 Mr. MANSFIELD. I ' lr'r;. Mr. MORSE. I wondt t I the Senator will make a brief st.at.cmet.t at this time with regard to the nature of the Juris- diction of the proposed cxrnmittee and the relationship, if any between the President's so-called eigln.-than board and the Congress of the Urdted States. Mr. MANSFIELD. I may say to the distinguished senior Senator from Ore- gon that there is no relationship between that board and the Congress; that the board has had its lips sealed; that it is supposed to report at least once every six months; and that the report is to be made to the President only. What that means in effect is a further arrogation of power on the part of the Executive and a diminution to that extent of the equality between the executive and the legislative. Mr. MORSE. Will the Senator yield for a question or two, or does he prefer to complete his remarks before yielding? Mr. MANSFIELD. I yield. Mr. MORSE. I am honored to be a cosponsor with the Senator from Mon- tana, of Senate Concurrent Resolution 2, and I am glad he is discussing'it today, because it seems to me that once again it is important that the American people-who, after all, In the last analy- sis. shall we say. "own" American foreign policy-should be apprised of the fact that there is a Government agency known as the CIA which works and functions in complete secrecy, and over which the Congress really has but little authority or jurisdiction except by way of the purse strings. In my view it is very dangerous to permit such an ar- rangement to continue, and I think Sen. ate Concurrent Resolution No. 2 is es- sential from the standpoint 'of main- taining a people's check on American foreign policy, to the extent that the CIA is Involved in American foreign policy. With that statement, I should like to ask a few questions. Does the Senator agree with me that since the CIA organ- ization functions in any country in any part of the world where it may operate with the secrecy that surrounds it, so far as Its relationship to the Congress is con- cerned, it is bound to create the imprea- Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 t.,,F -~DP Af 000100110002-6 5291 Approved For Release 208/91/21 t: . CO~NGRESS1 ;fk: upon the leaders of the foreign Mr. MANSFIELD. I thank the Sen- Mr. MORSE. I should like to ask a countries in which it operates that its ator from Oregon for his pertinent obser- question of the Senator from Massachu- activities represent the official foreign vations. setts. policy of the United States? Mr. President, the announcement of Mr. MANSFIELD. Certainly. Mr. MANSFIELD. I will say to the this new board was released Z days Mr. MORSE. Has the Senator from Senator from Oregon that' that is a after the time when the hearing on this Massachusetts ever informed the Foreign fairly sound assumption. The officials bill was set by the Rules Committee. I Relations Committee of the information of the CIA could be considered as agents do not think that was a deliberate at- he gained in regard to the CIA? of American foreign policy, and perhaps tempt to head oft the establishment of a SALTONSTALL. I have never they are so considered in some countries; congressional watchdog committee on been asked the Foreign Relations but I could not, on the basis of what I the Intelligence agency; I am sure that bbeen asfor any such information. know about the CIA, either prove or dis- was only a matter of coincidence. But Committee ussed such matters rather prove the Senator's statement, because It does emphasize one thing: it extends We have In the discussedd such matters Committee, there Is only limited congressional con- and strengthens the executive control in briefly Services executive session, as I recall, and also, tact with the agency. over the CIA. of course, In the Appropriations Com- Mr. MORSE. That is an, for the sim- I do not object to the formation of this mittee. ple reason that Congress, along with the new Commission, nor do I question the American people, is kept in Ignorance need by the Central Intelligence Agency MrAfter. all MORSE. , bothORSE. the 7b Senate at i l sle just Foreig my n R point. int. about the operation of the CIA. Is that and all Other intelligence agencies in the Ao~ and the Foreig Armed correct? Government for this kind of supervision. Sons a Commtht Cmi tee and have Sent re Acme - Mr. MANSFIELD. That is correct. What I am concerned with, however, is Services to foreign gn policy. Th- Mr. MORSE. I have one further the CIA's position of responsibility to bilities has such question. Has the Senator from Mon- none but the National Security Council. Foreign in Relations regard egard officer of which I Committee know is respect tana, as a colleague of mine on the For- I believe this should be changed. The sign Relations Committee of the Senate, newly appointed board members will to CIA. and I think it Is very important ever received any correspondence or in- have neither power nor control over the that there be established the joint com- forr*ation or complaints in regard to the CIA; and it appears to me that it is mittee the Senator from Montana Is pro- activities in foreign nations questionable ttted to learn under the agency's posing, that the Joint Committee w wh will whic ch indicate icriticism of American broad charter. keep the Foreign Relations Committee, toMr. ign MANSFIELD. abroad? Mr. BALTONSTALL. Mr. President, the Armed Services Committee, the Ap- Senator I have re h I must sal to the Senator that not. will the Senator from Montana yield for propriations Committee, and the Senate Mr. MORSE. I should like to Inform a question? as a whole Informed. Certainly, under the Senator that I have received a series Mr. MANSFIELD. I am delighted to the advice and consent clause of the Con- of communications in regard to alleged yid. stitution, it Is Important that we keep activities of the CIA which have caused Mr. SALTONSTALL. Concerning the ourselves informed regarding what is me concern, and make me all the more responsibility of the CIA only to the Na- occurring in connection with American enthusiastic in support of the Senator's tional Security Council, if a change in foreign policy. resolution. I think It Is highly desirable that situation were to be made, would Mr. SALTONSTALL. As one member that we have, by congressional action, not a change of law be required, inas- of the committee, I reply that to the ex- the authority which I think this resolu- much as the law Congress passed in 1947, tent I can do so under security regula- tion would give us to require this ad- as I recall, requires the CIA to be re- tions and in accordance with my own ministration, through Its CIA, to keep sponsible only to the National Security knowledge. of course, I shall be very glad Congress. through the special committee Council r. MANS~President? S Senator from any other Senator, Senator insofar as It is proper which hich the Senator, proposes to set up, informed as to exactly what it Is doing Massachusetts is correct. However, in- for me to do so. in other countries by way of action that stead of changing the law. I think we Mr. MANSFIEI D. Mr. President, I Is bound to have some effect on Amer- should establish a joint watchdog com- know the Senator from Massachusetts lean foreign policy and our standing in mittee composed of Members of the speaks from his heart, but I wonder those nations. House and Members. of the Senate. In whether the question I shall ask now This all goes back to what as the Ben- that way we could provide safeguards should be asked In public; if not, let the ator knows, is a deep conviction of mine. in connection with the operation of the Senator from Massachusetts please re- I abhor government by secrecy. I can- CIA. and we could also deal with ques- train from answering it: How many not reconcile It with democratic proces- tions which Members of Congress might times does the CIA request a meeting see. In the Senate of the United states have in their minds. with the particular subcommittees of the I do not propose by my vote to endorse Mr. SALTONSTALL. Mr. President, Appropriations Committee and the the action of any administration no mat- will the Senator from Montana yield fur- Armed Services Committee, and how ter what the party, that keeps the Amer- ther to me? many times does the Senator from Mas- ican people so much in the dark as the Mr. MANSFIELD. I am glad to yield. sachuaetts request the CIA to brief him American people are being kept in the Mr. SALTONSTALL. Of course, the in regard to existing affairs? dark by the present administration in Senator from Montana will agree with Mr. SALTONSTALL. I believe the the whole field of foreign policy. As the me that the Armed Services Committee correct answer is that at least twice a Senator knows, r do not agree that there and the Appropriations Committee now year that happens in the Armed Services can be justification for keeping from have subcommittees with members as- Committee, and at least once a year it the American people by so-called execu- signed to follow the activities of the CIA, happens in the Appropriations Commit- tive committee meetings in the Senate Is not that correct? tee. I speak from my knowledge of the a good deal of information. But I par- Mr. MANSFIELD. That is correct. situation during the last year or so; I titularly abhor the operation of govern- Mr. SALTONSTALL. As a member of do not attempt to refer to previous pe- ment by secrecy in such a way that It both those committees, I consider I have riods. Certainly the present adminis- threatens the liberties of the American been of the activities of the trator and the former administrator, informed people. Whenever there is government CIA to the extent that I believe It is wise Gen. Bedell Smith, stated that they were by secrecy, the freedom and liberties of for me to be informed. As regards fur- ready at all times to answer any ques- the American people are endangered. A her information, let me say that, so far tions we might wish to ask them. The mistake by the CIA in some tinderbox I know, nothing has been concealed difficulty in connection with asking ques- area of the world might result in the logs- from us. tons and obtaining information 1. that vens of the lives of millions of our fellow tilt- Mr. MORSE. President, will the we might obtain information which I in advance because np1 ace a check was miaff stakstakenen Senator from Montana yield for a ques- personally would rather not have, unless policies on dvance to the part r a of cec the CIA or other tion? it was essential for me as a Member of - agencies of our Government. Mr. MANSFIELD. I yield. Congress to have it. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 5292 Approved ForgteQM26WM'ML4RI IAIRDP8 O4 O00100110002-6 April 9 Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, I think the Senator's answer tolls the whole story, for he has informed us that a subcommittee of the Senate Armed Services Committee has met only twice a year with members of the CIA, and that a subcommittee of the Senate Ap- propriations Committee has met only once a year with members of the CIA. Of course, it Is very likely that the meet- ings in connection with the Appropria- tions Committee occurred only at a time when the CIA was making requests for appropriations. That information from the Senator from Massachusetts does not indicate to me that there is suf- ficiently close contact between the con- gressional committees and the CIA, as such. Mr. SALTONSTALL. In reply, let me state--and I should like to discuss this point more fully when I present my own views on this subject-that it is not a question of reluctance on the part of the CIA officials to speak to us. Instead, it is a question of our reluctance, if you will, to seek Information and knowledge on subjects which I personally, as a Member of Congress and as a citizen, would rather not have, unless I believed it to be my responsibility to have It be- cause it might Involve the lives of Ameri- can citizens. Mr. MANSFIELD. I see. The Sen- ator is to be commended. Mr. MORSE. Mr. President, will the Senator from Montana yield to me? Mr. MANSFIELD. I yield. Mr. MORSE. I wish to say that no one has greater respect for the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. SALTOHSTALLI than do I, and what I say now goes only to the point of view he has expressed, and not to the Senator from Massachusetts himself. But It Is the very point of view of the Senator from Massachusetts which I protest, because the very pro- cedure for checking the CIA the Sen- ator from Massachusetts has outlined Is at best a voluntary one, and is not based upon the establishment by resolu- tion of a mandatory jurisdiction of the Congress in relation to the CIA. That is what is necessary. But It does not exist under the present very loose and voluntary relationship existing between the CIA and the Armed Services Com- mittee and the Appropriations Commit- tee. What we must do is to write in black and white provisions which will give mandatory jurisdictional power to the Congress in relationship to the CIA. The second point I wish to mention In connection with a comment made by the Senator from Massachusetts-whom I highly respect, but who has laid down a Premise with which I am in total dis- agreement---Is in relation to the argu- ment that some information In this field should be -kept from the Members of Congress who serve on the appropriate committees, and that such Members of Congress should not have knowledge of those matters. Mr. President, let us consider the per- sonnel of the CIA. Who are the super- men of the CIA? They are not elected Officials of the Government, Instead, they are appointees of the executive branch of the Government. But the re- sponsibility as the elected representa- tives of it free people happens to be ours, under the advice and consent clause of the Constitution. to protect the people, by serving as a check against the admin- istration-and I care not whether it is a Republican or a Democratic adminis- tration. What is happening today, In connection with the trend toward gov- ernment by secrecy in America, is that that Congress has been standing by and has not been insisting upon exercising its power to check the executive branch of the Government in many fields includ- ing foreign policy. Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, the Senator from Oregon is entirely correct, The trend to which he has referred began during the Roosevelt administration, if not before, and continued during the Truman administration and down into the present administration. I refer to the trend toward reposing more and more power in the hands of the executive branch of the Government, and less and less power in the hands of the Congress. The Senate must wake up and do some- thing about,this matter, because unless we do so, as time passes the Congress will become less of an equal branch under our constitutional system, and more power will rest in the hands of the Ex- ecutive. The policy of increased execu- tive power is nonpartisan. The same thing happened under Democratic ad- ministrations as is happening under a Republican administration. Mr. MORSE. For years I sat over on the other side of the aisle and made the same protests under Democratic admin- istrations that I am making today under a Republican administration. This policy of too much secrecy has been characteristic of administrations of all parties In the executive branch. What we must do is to face up, before it is too late, to the fact that there is an increasing concentration of arbitrary power in the executive branch of the Government. This process has been go- ing on for the past quarter of a century. We must stop It The CIA issue affords a good example of what I am protesting. I do not know of a single secret of Government which ought to be vested in the hands and minds of some appointees of the executive branch of Government In the CIA, to the exclusion of the elected Representatives of the people. Who are these CIA employees? Many of them are very young, and, from the standpoint of experience, very immature men. Does anyone suggest that it is safe for democ- racy to vest in them crucial informa- tion, and to any that because we are Members of Congress on the Foreign Relations or Armed Services Committee, we should not have or should not want such information? I say that we must insist on getting It, if we are to keep faith with the oath we, took when we entered this body, and are properly to discharge our duties and responsibilities as elected Representatives of a free people. Today we are talking about an ab- straction In respect to a principle of Government, but the Senator from Mon- tana is to be complimented and com- mended for raising the issue. Ile has raised an issue of Government under our constitutional system which has been too long lost sight of by too many people in this country. What is happening now in the United States is similar to what has hapened in the history of other free nations. They flowered in freedom for a long time, and then gradually a small clique of Govern- ment officials in the executive branch started taking over their rights, free- doms, and liberties. The people woke up too late to discover that they had lost their freedoms, rights, and liberties. It can happen in America, if we do not stand on guard in relation to the prin- ciple of checks and balances under the Constitution. I commend the Senator from Mon- tana. Through this resolution I think he has placed his finger on a very Im- portant duty of Members of Congress. We ought to Insist that the power which has been vested In the CIA be subjected to an occasional check, as provided by his resolution. Mr. MANSFIELD. The Senator from Oregon is absolutely correct. Under the Roosevelt administration so-called exec- utive agreements were agreed to between this country and Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Nepal. Those executive agreements should have come before the Senate, un- der the advice-and-consent clause of the Constitution, because they were in real- ity treaties of friendship and commerce. Under the Truman administration, Congress appropriated sufficient funds to provide for a 70-group Air Force, Presi- dent Truman Impounded the money and allowed only a 48-group Air Force to come into being. Under this administration, last year Congress appropriated $40 million to maintain the Marine Corps at Its then present strength. What happened? Secretary of Defense Wilson said he would not use the money. He did use a part of It, A part of the cut went into effect. I note from the document asking additional appropriations for the fiscal year 1956, page 8, that it develops that under the Department of Defense, mill- tary functions, the Omce of the Secre- tary of Defense used $769,000-to be de- rived from where? From transfer from the appropriation "Military personnel, Marine Corps." The Office of Public Affairs In the De- partment of Defense used $27,500, to be tion "Military personnel, Marine Corps." For Interservice Activities, Court of Military Appeals, $41,400 was used, to be derived by transfer from the appropria- tion "Military Personnel, Marine Corps." For the Department of the Navy, serv- was used. to be derived by transfer from the appropriation "Military personnel, Marine Corps." For servicewide operations In the De- partment of the Navy, $2,180,000 was used, to be derived by transfer from the appropriation "Military personnel, Ma- rine Corps." All this was after the Congress unani- mously restored $40 million to maintain the Marine Corps at its then present strength, 223,000 men. What happened Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R0001 00110002-6 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE 5293 to those funds? What happened to the mandate laid down by Congress, which is supposed to control the Armed Forces of the United States, and to provide for them? What happened during the Tru- man administration when Congress ap- propriated for a 70-group Air Force? What happened during the Roosevelt ad- ministration when, in the field of foreign policy, Executive agreements were made which were in reality treaties of com- merce and friendship? Mr. SALTONSTALL. Mr. President, will the Senator yield? Mr. MANSFIELD. I yield. Mr. SALTONSTALL. First, with re- spect to the executive agreements to which the Senator has referred, let me say that I believe they should have been made in the form of treaties, and should have been brought to the attention of the Senate. So far as the Marine Corps appropri- ation is concerned, that question is now before the Committee on Appropriations. I agree with the Senator that if the money was not used for the Marine Corps, if the total strength of the Marine Corps provided for by the Congress was not maintained, and was not necessary, in the opinion of the Department, that money should have gone back to the Treasury, and. if money for other pur- poses was needed, new appropriations should have been requested. There should have been no transfers. I thor- oughly agree with the Senator from Montana. Mr. MANSFIELD. I am delighted to hear it. Mr. SALTONSTALL. I do not ap- prove of the method by which the funds were handled. The question as to whether the strength of the Marine Corps provided for by Congress was nec- essary is another issue; but certainly the money should not have been transferred. Mr. MANSFIELD. As the Senator knows far better than I, a portion of the Marine Corps cut was restored. Mr. SALTONSTALL. That is correct. Mr. MANSFIELD. But not to the point mandated by the Congress of the United States. The Senator from Mas- sachusetts also voted last year for the $40 million appropriation to maintain the Mr.rine Corps at its then present strength. The money is being used for other purposes, which in my judgment is contrary to the intent and wish of the Congress. Mr. SALTONSTALL. If my memory Is correct as to the figures-and I am not sure it is-the number of marines last year was 215,000. The Idea was to re- duce the number to 195,000, in round figures. Congress directed that the strength be kept at 215,000. I believe that the present figure is 201,000, and that it will be 205,000 at the end of the present fiscal year. I am not quite cer- tain as to the accuracy of those figures, but the present strength is more than 200,000. Mr. MANSFIELD. I think the Sena- tor is approximately correct; but it is still to be noted that the wishes of the Congress were ignored by Mr. Wilson, who is an agent of the President, and the money was used as he saw fit, and not as Congress intended. Mr. LANGER, Mr. President, will the Senator yield? Mr. MANSFIELD. I yield. Mr. LANGER. I wish to join the dls- tinguLhed Senator from Oregon [Mr. MORSE] in complimenting the Senator from Montana for bringing this subject to the attention of the Senate. I believe that the entire policy of se- crecy in this connection is a cancer in the operation of our Government. Only, a short time ago we had the spectacle of Sherman Adams, assistant to the President, telephoning to the Se- curities and Exchange Commission and holding up for 3 or 4 days a hearing in connection with the Dixon-Yates matter. When we asked why an assistant to the President should call up an agency of Government and delay a hearing for 3 or 4 days, while in the House an appro- priation of $6,500,000 was being consid- ered, we received a letter from the as- sistant secretary to the effect that this subje@t was secret. When the Senator from Tennessee (Mr. KEFAUVSRJ, as chairman of the sub- committee, joined with other members of the subcommittee in a letter requesting the assistant to the President, Sherman Adams, to come before us and tell us the reason for such procedures, we received a very brief letter of 3 or 4 lines in reply. I fully agree with the Senator from Oregon that the policy of secrecy is re- sulting in keeping from the Congress and the people matters with which the Con- gress ought to be thoroughly familiar. We are called upon to enact laws dealing with those subjects, and we are dealing with them, as the Senator from Massa- chusetts stated a few moments ago, in such a manner that members of the Committee on Armed Services meet only twice a year with representatives of the CIA, and members of the Committee on Appropriations meet with them only once a year, when they need more money. I believe the Committee on Foreign Rela- tions, of which the distinguished Senator from Oregon and the distinguished Sen- ator from Montana and I are members, can.testify to the fact that we see those gentlemen, members of the CIA, on very, very rare occasions, and then only when we practically invite them to attend. Mr. MANSFIELD. The Senator may well be correct. As a matter of fact, I do not recall ever seeing them before the Committee on Foreign Relations, al- though I may be mistaken about that. Mr. MORSE. Mr. President, will the Senator yield once more? I shall not Interrupt him again after this comment if it can be avoided. Mr. MANSFIELD. I am glad to yield to the Senator from Oregon. Mr. MORSE. J wish to associate my- self with the observations of the Senator from North Dakota [Mr. LANGSs], and I am very glad, indeed, that the Senator from Montana has mentioned the execu- tive agreements which have been made with some Middle East countries. espe- cially Saudi Arabia. He has referred to agreements about which we were not apprised at the time they were made. I do not believe it can be questioned that in regard to a good many of the agreements which are en- tered into the CIA has, so to speak, a background part to play, and does play; and it supplies what it believes to be information which ought to be influen- tial in reaching executive decisions. That is why I believe it very important that the Committee on Foreign Rela- tions be kept advised right up to the minute in regard to the findings of the CIA and the recommendations of the CIA as they may affect American foreign policy. Let us take, for example, the executive agreement to which the Senator from Montana has referred. Now, belatedly, we are beginning to get information, for example, pointing out that in Saudi Ara- bia human-slavery traffic is rampant in the year 1956. Before the week is over I intend to discuss on the floor of the Senate human-slavery traffic in Saudi Arabia. Nevertheless. Mr. President, the argu- ment is made that we ought to ship mili- tary supplies to Saudi Arabia. The ar- gument is made that In order to combat communism we ought to keep an airbase In Saudi Arabia. Mr. President, I seriously question the whole program of America in Saudi Ara- bia, so long as evidence can be brought have the agreements is engaged in human slavery in this year of 1958. We cannot reconcile that fact with the high moral principles for which we as a nation profess to stand in American foreign policy. The reason I am pleading for full dis- closure to the American people of Amer- ican foreign policy is that If such dis- closure is not made we get into the kind of situation the Senator from Montana has mentioned with regard to so-called executive agreements. That happens whenever we in the Congress do not have all the facts presented to us. Services for 8 years. What did the brass do? They came before the committee and said, "This Is our recommendation. However, because of the top secrecy in- volved, we do not want to go into the information and the facts on which the recommendation Is based. What did we do? We used to it there and say, "Well, we will take you at your word." In my judgment, we should not do that. In my judgment, in a democracy. the elected representatives of the peo- ple are entitled to whatever facts any- one who has brass on his shoulders may have in his head. I for one think we the State Department determine for- eign policy for the American people, without any check on the process by their elected representatives in the legis- lative halls of the Government. Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, I wish to say to the Senator that. what frightens me about the whole matter Is the fact that the Senate, particularly, has been willing to give up its share of Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 6 Approved For R&I 64062MIN,4L CH/AFIR QQ,tEARgq100110002-6 Agreementsethanot In the mass of executive 5295 t the Issue is to be found. It still had a twinge oflnierr ousness about the boundaries and begin down d the BlIlletin, the State 1s, rather, In the few, in the very few. For procedure it was following. It was con- is not any authority under the Constitution there It Is In the few, the very few, that this extra- strained to point to two precedents. What or the law for, we get Into a field that spreads c' ustitutlonal device can be used to stretch were the precedents? The agreements with and gets worse, like It spreading disease. tho unique powers of the Executive. It is Yemen and Saudi Arabia. In the few that there lies the danger of Yemen, Saudi Arabia, and Nepal. These about It and Ilhop, that w u~ dotsrme- usurpation, destruction of the constitutional are small, faraway lands pew of us could thing to check It and bring us back within 1x.lance, and in the last analysis, the threat locate them quickly on a map, Still fewer the limits of what we ought to do." of Executive tyranny, have any direct concern with what transpires This is no Imaginary tear which haunts me In them. Yet, the agreements which have tlvs~circumvention of legal proof of extcin and other members of the Senate, txecu- been negotiated with them constitute *art" the Interpretation legislative in tive agreements have been used to stretch of nts which vital Importance ed by Oongre or administration most of laws precedents whcl o I sion passed by Congress caeca mue- the pourers of the Presidency and unless safe-to our constitutional of 1 powers. aible to obtain- In some come Instances disputes guards are established there Is no reason to None of them has ever been replaced by a arising under these circumstances have been believe that they will not Continue to be no regular treaty, yet all of them cover subject settled by adjudication, but in most cases used. If the Senate will bear with me for a matter which traditionally has been handled these Conflicts have been characterized by few momenta longer. I will undertake to by treaty. prove by specific example how this extra- Twenty-one years have ela tbwgft and allegations which were some rmed constitutional device can undermine the first of these three agreements was since [ions and sometimes lains and ne tie Ink answered d. power of the Senate In foreign relations. I ated. Was the failure to replace the rptetao wdlaw means awill endeavor to show how this device can runts by agree- howell w it often req M administered er se of u may very judg and has been used to erode that power and a oonaotow y s permanent expansion of athe s the oversight or t require the exercise tb}ectlve transfer it - .__ en , re Preal coerce, and navigation have been nude with dent now sendVjthee. three agreement, or other countries by the President with the their permanent replacements to the Senate advice and consent of the Senate. As the for advice or consent or after years and L: nators know, these are basic treaties which decades Is the need still for temporary establish the framework of our relations with agreements? other countries. The Senate has tradi. How is the Senate to deal with the disap- tionally given advice and consent to such pearance of Its prerogatives In this fashion? treaties. It still does so, for the most part. In 1933, however, the Department of State Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, I negotiated an agreement of friendship and ask unanimous consent that some Illus- commerce with Saudi Arabia. As far as r tratlons of the use of Executive power in can determine, this was the first time an relation to the power of Congress, which executive agreement, rather than a treaty. I requested the Legislative Reference was used for this purpose. TO be sure, the Service of the Library of Congress to agreement with Saudi Arabia was labeled provisional in nature and was to remain in compile acoan for IIle, be Incorporated in the effect, I quote: "until the entry In force of RECORD at this point, a definitive treaty of commerce and naviga- There being no objection, the illustra- tion." Sven though It was temporary, how- tions were ordered to be printed in the ever, the State Departme t n must have kno RECORD a fll wn,soows: that this executive agreement was treading Tae lsaaaav or Conoszas, on dangerous constitutional ground for it r rRUOOSU, Of Wisconsin. In the House of Itepreesntntlvea, Thursday. March 8. 1960) Mr. Faar.ocxi. Mr. Speaker. under leave to extend my remarks In the Raooea, I wish to recommend to the attention of the member- ship of this body an editorial which appeared in the Milwaukee J,'frnal on March 6, 1056. entitled ".Scene C'urlgresalonal Control Over CIA Is Net Impractical." During the last 3 years i have exerted re- peated efforts on behalf of the proposal to establish a Joint Committee on Intelligence Matters. I have first outlined my proposal on this subject In House Concurrent Resolu- tion 180. 63d Congress, and reintroduced it, in an amended version, in House Concurrent Resolution 46. 84th Congress, together with over a adore of my distinguished colleagues. It is my sincere hope that the House Rules Committee will report House Concurrent Resolution 28 In the near future. "soar: CO}iGRMEIONAI. CONTR n4 ovs7 CIA is NOT IMv'LACTIIAL "For several years there has been a rash of resolutions in Congress calling for an agency to watch over the Central Intelligence Agency, our top cloak and dagger corps. "The second Hoover Conuniselon called for the same thing. It suggested that a small, permanent Commission composed of a bt Pes- tlsan representation from Congress and dis- tingulahed private citizens handle the job. "President Eisenhower has gone halfway. He recently named a civilian Commission in the executive branch to serve as watchdog and report to him. But he has shied away from letting Co'hgress In on the act. This hasn't stilled demands that Congress take a hand In watching an agency for which It ap- propriates money. Senator Maxsrrzxo, Dem- ocrat, Montana. has come up with a bill to create a joint committee of both Houses of Congress to work with the CIA. The Senate Rules Committee has agreed to congressional action on the bill and It has attracted a large measure of support. "The Hoover Commission pointed out that the CIA. because It needs a large degree of secrecy to operate. Is exempted by law from rules that control other Government agen- cies. For instance, the General Service, Ad- ministration, the Government's housekeeper, has no control over CIA at all. CIA is en empted 'from compliance with any provision of law limiting transfers of appr'opriations' any requirements for publication or disclo- sure of the organization, functions, names, official titles, salaries, or numbers of person- nel employed by the agency; And any regula- tions relating to the expenditure of Govern- ment funds.' "Such exemptions are, by and large, prop- er, The Atomic Energy Commission has sim- liar exemptions. But Congress does have to appropriate funds for the CIA. It created the Agency and set its scope of activities. surely someone In Congress should be given at least peek enough to make sure that CIA Is operating efficiently and properly. This Is particularly true because of criticisms---scope from the Hoover Commission itself--of some shortcomings in CIA. "The AEC, which hoards secrets, too. has a joint congressional committee which Is given enough of a picture to judge whether the organization is handling Government funds properly. The joint committee has warted exceedingly well, and without weak- ening national security. The same sort Of committee could do the same sort of job for Ofm. It wouldn't have to be told every- thing-and shouldn't 'But Congress ought to be able to deter- mine whether the dagger Is being kept sharp and the cloak Is kept cleaned and pressed and buttoned. It's bash that Congress, with control of the purse, must get enough In- formation to make an Informed judgmurat on how the purse is expended. "That's all MANannLs and others tranF-- and It's little enough to asks' (From the Will Street Journal of January i8, 1956) A Cnxcx ON T1IZ WArrxr Recently President Eisenhower announced the appointment of a committee of eight April 9 citizens to serve as watchdog over the Cen- tral Intelligence Agency. Their duties will be to review periodically the workings or the supersecret CIA and report their sug- gestions and give their advice to the Chief Executive. So for so good. But there to a serious question whether the authority of the committee goes far enough. The CIA is clothed In such secrecy that even the Congress cannot ask about Its inner actlvitles. By law it can withhold even such obviously unimportant informa- tion as the salaries of Its top officials. Its adventures are known only to a few people. The gentlemen serving on Mr. Eisenhower's committee will have neither power nor con- trol over CIA. And there I. a question how much they will be permitted to learn under the Agency's broad charter. There Is the further question whether this committee will be able to make public any- thing they may learn about CIA doing the wrong things or not doing enough of the right things. The reports an to go to the executive department and no executive de- partment under whatever sdnNnletration likes to aee errors or shortcomings publicly revealed. In the case of CIA. an Executive order could clothe In secrecy whatever the watchdog committee thought should be re- vealed even from the Congress on the ground that revelation might Injure the country. It has been said that the appointment of the committee follows the suggestion of the Hoover Commission. The fact Is that It does not. The Hoover Commission suggested a bipartisan eommittoe Including Members of both Houses Of Congress empowered by law to ask and get whatever information it thought necessary to aid, guide, or restrain CIA. Though nearly everything CIA does Is se- cret, there L no secret about one thing. CIA is run by men, and though the men who run It may be more Intelligent than other men they still may make mistakes as do all other man. Sllght errors in intelligence as- sessment may not, individually, amount to a very great deal: collectively, they could have the most serious consequences. To set a national policy on a wrong course because of compounded errors could be more danger. ous than no Intelligence agency at all, We hope no one will read Into these re. marks a suggestion that CIA run off carbon copies for all who ask about Its activities; that would be as silly as It would be unwise to lean CIA answerable only to itself. Neither do we suggest that CIA Is not doing Its Job properly; we could not so sug- gest, for even the Conger does not. know whether It Is or not. And that is precisely our point. Surely the Congress, with Its power to de- clare war, has a responsibility to watch carefully over an agency It created to stand watch In that ahadowland between pespe and war. [From the New Tort Times of Janusl7 l8 15041 WATeimos or leans CIA-As, 11vaLvATiose or 'eau P'-.- rs ACrsoer iw Na>mre Roam To Rsvesw INTa LUmm u (Ry Bataan W. Baldwin) The Presidents fppolntznent.last week of an eight-man board to review periodically the Nation's Intelrigenoe activities fa a step in the right direction. But unfortunately it does not to far enoyghh, The estabtlrhasent of the e)ttans oommis- sion was approved by Arian W. Dukes,, Dhreo? for a the Central Intelligence Agency. The action will be iataRpreted on one hand as an attantpt to bead doff the sstabllshment of a congressional watchdog committee on the Inte ligeesee Agency. On the other hand is lends tacit support to frequent and repeated criticisms of our Intelligence services, par- ticularly of the CIA. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R0001 00110002-6 1956 CONGRESSIONAI. RECORD - SENATE The recent Hoover Commission report on intelligence activities recommended the es- tablishment of a permanent bipartisan com- mission on intelligence. But It suggested a different form from that announced last week. The Hoover Commission urged the inclu- sion of -Members of both Houses of the Con- gress and other public-spirited citizen empowered by law to demand and receive any information It needed for Its own use." The President's board has no congressional members. Although It has executive author- ity for support It does not have the legal authority that congressional enactment could give. In other words, It is not powerful enough or broad enough. Nor will It have sufficient continuity. CIA UNDER! CtrYIClafa Nevertheless the reputation, experience, and character of the eight appointees, who include Robert A. Lovett, former Secretary of Defense, give promise that the board will, in fact, as the President suggested. "make a real contribution to the task of Government." It Is well fitted to take a fresh outside look at Intelligence, even though It has no authority and will be able merely to suggest and advise rather than to control and supervise. But then have been so many Intelligence failures, so much friction, and such sharp criticism, particularly of the CIA, that the appointment of the citizens board should not preclude the establishment of a continuing and permanent congressional watchdog committee. Such a committee could act, In the same manner as the Joint Congressional Atomic Energy Committee, as purse watcher, super- visor, guardian, sponsor, and defender of the CIA. It could give a constant and more thor- ough supervision to our Intelligence activities than could any periodic check. The two committees, working together. would be mutually supporting. They should insure as far as human checks and balances can do, a proper support for, and control of. our powerful intelligence organizations. This the citizen committee alone cannot do. The need for such support and control should be obvious. As the President said. "prompt and accurate Intelligence is esen- tial to the policymaking branches of Govern- ment." But It Is more than that. It could mean national W. or death In the atomic age. On the other hand, uncontrolled secret Intelligence agencies are in a position to dominate policymaking, and hence govern- ment. Their very secrecy gives them power; there are few to accept or reject their find- Ings. Their facts do not pass through the slave of congressional debate or public In- quiry. Few, even In the executive branch, know what they do. The CIA, for instance, by the very breadth of its charter, Is beyond the normal checks and balances of the law. An overpowerful secret intelligence agency is dangerous, not alone to the formulation of sound policy, but to the viability of democratic Institutions. moose Is SPOTTY The Intelligence record of the Nation and of the Central Intelligence Agency in par- ticular is spotty. There have been notable successes but also notable failures. The Hoover Commission's public critique was po- litely critical of some of our shortcomings. The secret report of the same Hoover Com- mission task force on Intelligence Is far more critical. Lt. Gen. James H Doolittle, a member of the President's new board, investigated CIA and other Intelligence activities in Germany a year ago and found much overlapping and Ineffectiveness. Late this summer. Mai. Gen. Arthur Cl. Trudeau, Assistant Chief of Staff of the Army for Intelligence, was relieved after Mr. Dulles had sent a long and detailed bill of com- plaints against General Trudesu to the Pentagon. A great many other incidents also sug- gest that all In not well with our intelli- gence establishment. It can only profit from the new commit- tee. But It could profit more from a per- manent congressional watchdog committee. If war is too Important to be left to the generals, it should be clear that intelligence Is too Important to be left unsupervised. CrrmzNs Commrrres roa rwi Hooves Rzrowr, Washington, D. C., March 5, 1954. Hon. Irxz MA N Sorkin' Senate Office Building, Washington, D. C. Dzaa ttrNAros: Ihuing a recent conference In Helena, Mont., the Citizens Committee for the Hoover Report passed a resolution sup- porting your Senate Concurrent Resolution 2 which implements rooommendation No. in of the Hoover Commission Report on In- telligence Activities in the Federal Govern- ment. The attached editorial which appeared in the February 28 issue of the Ban Francisco Examiner also supports your resolution. We would appreciate very much if you would havethe Citizens.. Committee resolution and this editorial Inserted In the CozoarrsLONAL RzCOaD. Very truly yours. HAZVnY HANCOCK, Regional Director. CTnrwNs Commrrrrx roc rag Hooves Rrroa?, Washington, D. C., March 13, 1959. The Honorable Llnrz J. MANSFrirLD, United States Senate Office Building, Washington, D. C. DtAS SENATOS MANSTIKLD: I am gratified to learn that you are anxious to have the views of the ClUzens Committee on the Hoover Report concerning Senate Concur- rent Resolution 2, that you have introduced In the Senate. This Concurrent Resolution would create a Joint Congressional Committee on Cen- tral Intelligence to "make continuing studies of the Central Intelligence Agency and of problems relating to the gathering of in- telligence affecting the national security and its coordination and utilization by the various departments, agencies, and Instru- mentalities of the Government." The Com- mittee would be composed of six Members from each House of Congress. The Conmission on Organization of the Executive Branch of the Government recom- mended in its report on Intelligence Activi- ties: That the Co- greas consider creating a Joint Congressional Committee on Foreign Intelligence, similar to the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy." This recommendation was based on a de- tailed study of our Intelligence activities that was made for the Commission by a group of eminent citizens. This group pointed out concerning the Central Intelligence Agency that: "The act" (creating It) "exempts the Agency from compliance with any provision of law limiting transfers of appropriations; any requirements for publication or dis- closure of the organization, functions, names. ottlclal titiea, salaries, or numbers of personnel employed by the Agency; and any regulations relating to the expenditure of Government funds. "The task force fully realizes that the Central Intelligence Agency, as a major fountain of intelligence for the Nation, must of necessity operate In an atmosphere of secrecy and with an unusual amount of free- dom and Independence. Obviously, It can- not achieve its full purpne,c if subjected to open scrutiny and the extensive chocks and balances which apply to the average go%eru- mental agency. "Because of Its peculiar position, the CIA has been freed by the Congress from outaldo surveillance of Its operations and Its fi -ni accounts. There Is always a danger that such freedom from restraints could Inspire laxity and abuse, which might prove costly to the American people." Thus, this group of able citizens found that there was no effective control over In- telligence agencies. On principle, such a situation Is undesirable, but In addition the task fosse found that there were defects In the organization and function of our Intelll. gence agencies. Thus it concluded that. "The task force in deeply concerned over the lack of adequate Intelligence from be- hind the Iron Curtain. Proper directional emphasis, aggressive leadership, boldness and persistance an essential to achieve desired results." 'The task force feels that certain admin- istrative flaws have developed in the CIA, which must be corrected to give proper em- phasis and direction to Its basic reeponai- bllitles." These conclusions of the task force were endorsed by the Commission. It Is significant that the first Commision on Organization of the Executive Branch of the Government in 1949 In Its report on the National Security Organization recom- mended (Recommendation 4c) : 'That vigorous steps be taken to Improve the Central Intelligence Agency and its work." The Commission on Organization of the Executive Branch of the Government in its 1955 report on Intelligence Activities was anxious that Congress have adequate Infor- matlon concerning the operation of our foreign intelligence activities while still pre- serving the secrecy required for national security. I am pleased to inform you that the Citl- aens Committee on the Hoover Report be- Iteves that House Concurrent Resolution 2, would If enacted Implement fully the recom-. mendatlons of the Commission that there be created a Joint Congressional Committee on Foreign Intelligence. Tours sincerely, CX AarNC7 FSANCra, ORDER FOR RECESS TO WEDNESDAY AT 11 O'CLOCK A. M. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate concludes its business today, it stand in recess until Wednesday, objection, it is so ordered. TEE ON CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE The Senate resumed the consideration of the resolution (S. Con, Res. 2) to estab- lish a Joint Committee on Central in- telligence. Mr. SALTONSTALL. Mr. President, I rise to speak very briefly on the subject matter of Senate Concurrent Resolution 2. When the Senate discusses the subject again on Wednesday. I hope to make fur- ther remarks In more detail concerning It. I may add that I respect the sincerity of the Senator from Montana in submit- ting the concurrent resolution. He has discussed the matter a number of times, and I know he believes in the objective of Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 53(1 Approved F UNftj~308NAI/ RECORD P SENATBR000100110002-6 April 9 the resolution and the creation of such a joint committee as is provided for. Per- sonally, I do not think the administration of the Central Intelligence Agency would be Improved by the creation of another joint congressional committee. Mr. President, all of us want security for our country, and all of us want our country to have the best possible de- fenses. All of us want the best and most accurate intelligence reports to be ob- tained. All of us want to protect the lives of those who are engaged in this work. All of us want to protect our sources of information. There Is no dif- ference between us in regard to these matters. The difference comes in regard to the methods to be employed First, let me any that the Federal Bu- reau of Investigation-an agency whose work and whose leader all of us respect-- provides us with sources of information within the United States. There Is no criticism of the FBI of which I know; there Is no effort to set up a joint com- mittee to supervise it. Second, our intelligence sources, which provide us with Information from out- side the United States are threefold: One is the State Department, which has Its ambassadors and consuls and their staffs. Next, there are the armed serv- ices, which have their official aides in our embassies. Finally, there is the CIA. In broad outline, that Agency does for us outside the United States the work the FBI does inside the United States. Let me say that there is complete co- ordination and almost daily interchange between these two agencies concerning information and intelligence. Naturally, the methods of the CIA are different from those of the FBL The methods of oper- ation of the CIA vary in the several coun- tries where It operates; but Its aim is to provide the United States with infor- mation which will help us to be more secure, and to carry out within Its juris- diction the orders which may be given it by the highest executive agency which protects us, namely, the National Se- curity Council. Some of the wort of the CIA may be done In the open. But most of Its work is absolutely under cover. If it were not under cover, the CIA would not function, for the simple reason that Its sources of information would dry up very Quickly; in many places Its agents would be quickly liquidated or forcibly evacu- ated. So one point is crystal clear: There is no secrecy for secrecy's sake. There Is secrecy because by means of secrecy, results can be obtained. Without se- crecy, nothing would be accomplished, and the lives of many brave men would be sacrificed. In broad outline, that Is the situation which confronts us today. As the majority report points out, be- fore World War U we had no service of this character. Instead, we relied upon our friends In other nations, or upon our guesses, or upon whatever In- formation the State Department or the armed services could pick up. But we soon found that was not enough for the strongest free nation to have, In order to function. So President Roosevelt asked Colonel Donovan to organize the OS8, It functioned under his leadership during the war years. Later, its work was continued by two agencies created by Executive order, until the National Security Act in 1947 created the Central Intelligency Agency, as we know it today. The amendments to the National Se- curity Act of 1947 which were passed in 1949 set up Its procedures. The CIA is essentially an executive agency under the direction of the Na- tional Security Council, which Is the highest policymaking body for our se- curity. The functions of the CIA are threefold. in broad general outline: First, Intelligence, both covert and overt; sec- ond, activities ordered by the National Security Council; third, the coordination of intelligence. It coordinates that In- telligence in Washington and reports it to the National Security Council. The CIA is not, I repeat, a policymaking body. As has been pointed out, at the present time the CIA is supervised by subcom- mittees of the congressional Armed Services Committees, under whose juris- diction the CIA comes, and by subcom- mittees of the Appropriations Commit- tees of the Congress. If the work of the Members of Congress who serve on those subcommittees is not well done, the members of those subcommittees should be blamed. Let that be done, instead of creating a new agency to duplicate or take over the work which now is being done by 2 regular, legalized committees of the Senate and 2 regular, legalized committees of the House of Representa- tives. As the Senator from Montana [Mr. MANSYILLD 1 has said, several commis- sions have studied the work of the CIA and have submitted reports thereon. That was done by the Hoover Commis- sion, and also by the so-called Clark Commission, headed by General Mark Clark, which I believe served under the Hoover Commission. Its report was made to the President. 'A portion of It was made public: and a part of it was not made public, for the sake of security. The Senator from Montana has re- ferred to the establishment of the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy as a precedent for the establishment of a new congressional Joint committee on the CIA. Let me point out that there is an essential difference l"tween the work of the Atomic Energy Commission and the work of the CIA. The Atomic En- ergy Commission Is a, manufacturing commission. It Is the first agency of the Government, I believe, which ac- tually is in the manufacturing business. It has continual activities which are sub- ject to congressional consideration, In connection with proposals for legislative changes. The work of the Atomic En- ergy Commission is constantly chang- Ing. The Commission makes annual reports. On the other hand, the CIA has made very few requests for legislation. As I have stated, it Is an executive agency, similar to the Federal Bureau of Inves- tigation or similar to the Department of Agriculture or the Department of the Interior or other executive departments. The CIA does not often have changes made by m 'tns of legislation in its fundamental structure. So the work of Congress in supervising the CIA from a legislative point of view Is essentially that of seeing that its funds are properly spent and that its activities are properly carried out in the way intended by Congress, As I have said, such supervision Is now being con- ducted by a subcommittee of the Senate Armed Services Committee and a sub- committee of the Senate Appropriations Committee, and is similarly conducted in the House of Representatives. The Senator from Montana has re- ferred to the functioning of the staff of the proposed joint committee. I do not see how such a staff could possibly conduct investigations of its own. I do not see how the members of such a staff would be able to investigate to any great degree the work of the CIA, for the sim- ple reason that the necessary papers and the personnel with whom it would be essential to have discussions are within the National Security Council. There- fore, unless the matter under inquiry could be discussed openly, the staff members would not be able to obtain any Information other than that which the Members of Congress now are able to ob- tain if they themselves request it. In other words, the work of the CIA Is essentially the work it does under the orders of the President and the National Security Council; and, as such, It must do that work. As I have said, I do not see how the stiff members of the pro- posed joint committee could investigate the work of the CIA or could steer. It into new and useful lines of endeavor. Very briefly, those are the reasons why I oppose the establishment of a new com- mittee. I happen to be a member of both subcommittees to which reference has been made. If the members of the subcommittees are not now doing their work properly, let them take the blame, and let new members be placed on those subcommittees. On the Subcommittee of the Armed Services Committee at present are the distinguished Senator from Georgia [Mr. RusasLLI, the Senator from Vir- ginia (Mr. Bxaal, the Senator from New Hampshire [Mr. Baxcceal, and the dis- tinguished majority leader, the Senator from Texas [Mr. Joaxsortl, and myself. The members of the Subcommittee of the Committee on Appropriations, of which subcommittee I was formerly chairman, are the Senator from Arizona [Mr. HArnsxl, the Senator from New Mexico (Mr. Csuvsl, the Senator from Georgia (Mr. Rvs5ZLL), and, on the Re- publican side, the Senator from New Hampshire [Mr. Bamo ] and myself. We have gone into the subject to the degree we believe necessary to deter- mine that the CIA is functioning prop- erly. If we do nob do our work, we should be the ones to be criticized, and we should be given suggestions as to what policies should be carried out. For those reasons, briefly, r am op- posed to the concurrent resolution. This Is not a subject that can be discussed at length, because It is surrounded with se- curity problems. I am opposed to the concurrent resolution which the Senator from Montana has submitted, although, as I say, I know that he is sincere, and Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-FP8t-016000100110002-6 CONGRESSIONAL RECD 5305 1 hope he accords me the same credit chusetts make it imperative that they be Mr. SALTONSTALL. Mr. President, Senator y in opposing his resolution. answered before the Senate adjourns will Iield? Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, will today. the Senator yield? I think the Senator from Massachu- Mr. SALTONSTALL. Let me say to M r. SALTONSTALL. I yield. setts knows that I hold him in exception- the Senator from Oregon that I respect Mr. MANSFIELD. The distinguished ally high regard. However. I have dif- his sincerity in the position he takes. senior Senator from Massachusetts has fered with him many times with regard Mr. MORSE. I thank the Senator. it very high credit rating with me, I as- to the administration of both military Mr. SALTONSTALL. As I see it the sure him and foreign policies. In my judgment, checks on the FBI, through the chairmen Mr. SALTONSTALL. I appreciate our difference is very basic. As I see it, of committees, or through the ranking that statement. our difference is that I believe in putting members of oommitteeS, are the same Mr. MANSFIELD. I am delighted at to full and complete use our system of checks that we exercise with respect to the high level upon which the Senator checks and balances. I have interpreted the CIA. many of the, has kept the discussion of the concurrent ator from Massachusetts, as of the Sen- An I say. the Information which we interpret obtain as members of the subcommittee resoluton. Did I I correctly understand the Sena- his position today, as indicating what I is available, so far as It can be made "- tor to say that the National Security consider to be an undue and unsound able consistent with security purposes, to Council is the chief policy-determining willingness to delegate to the executive Members of the Senate in open debate body of the Nation? branch of Government control which or in executive session. So I think the procedure is the same in that regard. Mr. SALTONSTALL. For defense should always be vested In the people of Pf' ORSE. ~~ ar,e ~~ ~bdt- purposes. That is my understanding. the country through their elected repro- tale I could make to the an a ut- I shall be glad to be corrected if I am sentatlves in the Congress. So I rise now Senator fMassachusetts. mistaken. The President. as the head to answer what I consider to be a com- Sator from Consider, for example, reports from of the executive department, conducts plete fallacy of argument by false anal- f on Appropriations. from foreign policy through the State Depart- ogy used by the Senator from Massa- the Pars Committee FM with the CIA m- ment. He conducts security policies chusetts. through the Defense Department: and The Senator from Massachusetts com- Ports, as they relate to the Committee on the CIA is an administrative agency pares the CIA with the FBI. and says Appropriations. which funnels to the National Security that the procedure followed in regard to The FBI makes full public disclosure Council the information which the State the FBI corresponds to the procedure to the American people with regard to Department, the Defense Department. followed in respect to the CIA. I deny it. the amounts appropriated' and the uses and the CIA obtain In various parts of I deny It because of the many checks to which they are put. That is not true the world. The information comes to which we exercise with respect to the with respect to the CIA. As a member the National Security Council, where it FBI as a branch of the Department of of the Committee on Appropriations. the can be used as a basis for the determina- Justice and do not exercise in respect to Senator from Massachusetts may know tion of the policies best fitted to promote CIA. We are constantly checking the something with respect to the CIA which our security. That is my understanding. FBI. We check it with full disclosure in I, as a member of the Foreign Relations Mr. MANSFIELD. I now understand connection with appropriations. We Committee, do not know, and which the American people do not know. That is a little more clearly the question raised check It with full disclosure in regard to what I am protesting agagainst. I we by the Senator from Massachusetts. the salaries paid by the FBI. We have what about any Member the II see The Senator says that If there Is any neither such check on the CIA. Mates Sbott any M should entitle him which fault, the members of the subcommittees We check the eWBcheck tit in respect respect Ito to any Information which Is denied to are the e ones who should be replaced. I jurisdiction. the entire membership of the Senate as assure the Senator that In my opinion the authority we give It, and we cheek representatives of the Americas people. the members of the various subcommit- it--although not to the degree .1 think we We are dwith American e spy America' tees are not the ones at fault. The con- should-even in respect to the type of We when dealing i are dealing wits the current resolution specifically provides files it maintains and the evidence it col- CIA; and when we are ing wit with dealin that the membership of the new oom- lects and the use to which it puts its files. IA; a America's wen we had n take mittee shall be composed of Senators and We exercise some check on it even in re- c~ t s spy do nm with a better take Representatives who at present are spect to so-called secret information. state We not, deal not have to oght system do members of the CIA subcommittees In For some years past, in almost every communism with a police state system. both the House and Senate. session of Congress, we have gotten into We did not have to fight Naziism with a . Mr. SALTONSTALL. I understand. a little difficulty with the FBI over the police state. We had better keep Mr. MANSFIELD. I have nothing but question whether or not the Congress. as on free ground. We had better keep m_ the highest regard and esteem for all the legislative body of the people of the tact the system of checks provided by the Members who comprise the sub- United States, shall have access to the our form o! government committees, both Republicans and information we think we are entitled to, I wish to say to the Senator from Democrats. All I am saying is that this when we consider there is a possibility of Massachusetts that when he oounte- activity should not be conducted on a a wrong being done by the FBI. What dances and gives import to the kind of dli ng subcommittee basis, but that a joint happens then? I think the record IS re-. procedure which exists in the han with regular standing, should plete with instances of at least exercising of CIA--and I say this most respect- committee , be appointed. It should have a small a check upon the FBI to the extent that fully--he is supporting a form of Amer. for the Congress. and the security and the chairmen of the committees con- voice be raised in defense of it. It believe welfare of the CIA could be further in- cerned, and with the majority and mi- the manner in which the American spy sured. nority representatives of such commit- system functions ought to be known by From the remarks of the Senator, and tees and make available the material In all the members of the Armed Services ossession in connection with some Committee and by all the members of ersonal conversations. I their r f p p rom ou know that he understands my position alleged injustice. in such cases Congress the Foreign Relations Committee. We f rom on this question. I assure him that I has called for the FBI files so that they do not know It today. The Senator understand his position. and have noth- can be examined in order that we may Massachusetts stands on the floor of the rmine whether or not we should im- Senate today and makes an argument in hest regard for him. d t the hi b t g e u e ing Mr. SALTONSTALL. The sentiment pose further checks on the FBI. support of an exclusive system under is mutual. I thank the Senator. Thus in the operation of the so-called which certain favorite ones are picked chftks nformation. Mr. President, I yield the floor. FBI internal police system It is simply out and given certain secret i Mr. MORSE. Mr. President, I had not not true that we fall to exercise checks That is not a system Intended to discuss Senate Concurrent upon it, as has been contended by the ances, I say most respectfully to the Resolution 2 today. However. I believe Senator from Massachusetts this after- Senator from Massachusetts; it Is gov- the remarks of the Senator from Massa- noon. by selection. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 0. OG Approved For ReWW Wh1UCRFA0R1Dt-A05j X100110002-6 April 9 Mr. SALTONSTALL: Mr. President, sign policy. I am worried about Amer- asked me. I believe also that he has not will the Senator yield? lea's foreign policy. asked for such information of the Joint Mr. MORSE. I yield. If the Senator from Massachusetts Committee on Atomic Energy, Mr. SALTONSTALI. As the Senator wishes to know why I believe the Secre- larly information which that committee well knows, I would never support any tary of State stumbles so much, It Is be- may have obtained in its investigations. kind of police state system. ? That is fur- cause we do not have sufficient check Mr. MORSE. I should like to make thest from my mind. I am trying to sup- on him in re and t o port a system which is making an effort lows, which we discover only t o lateoAs to obtain for us the necessary informa- a result of his stumbling. tion on which to base our security pol- I believe the pending concurrent reso_ ivies. In doing that we are trying to pro- lution to be of great importance because tect the lives of men who are endeavor- . it would give to the American people. ing to get the information for us. Those through their representatives in the Con- are brave men. gress a check on the activities of e Mr. MORSE. Mr. President, the Sen- CIA, for the resolution would s from Massachusetts would not sup- fish a Joint committee which would have port a system with the label "police state" as its primary and sole duty checking on pinned on It. I say to him again most the functions of the CIA. respectfully that when he defends the r cast no reflection on the Senator present CIA system, he defends a spy aye- from Massachusetts and on the other tern that Is based upon a police state members of the subcommittee. How- procedure. I say that because when such ever, I wish to say that his membership procedures keep away from elected off- on the subcommittee is not the major job vials of a free people and from the peo- of th pie themselves facts which are impor- tant to them, then they constitute, in my Judgment, a police state procedure. I shall never support it. I believe it is very Important that we maintain a legislative check on the spy system our Government maintains around the world. I say that because if that spy system miscarries, if It is not based upon sound procedures, it can get us into a great deal of trouble. I wish to say something about the argument the Senator is making, from the standpoint of security. During my 11 years in the Senate, whenever we try to discuss this subject, some Senator rises, as the Senator from Massachusetts has done, and argues that we have to do a certain thing in the interest of security. I say that is an unsound argu- ment. .1 feel that America Is most se- e Senator from Massachusetts. As a member of the Committee on Foreign Relations I do not have any information which has ever been given to me by the Senator's subcommittee with respect to the so-called checks the Senator has made on the CIA. The Senator says that if we had asked him for informa- tion he would have always been willing to give it to the Committee on Foreign Relations. I happen to believe-and I say this most respectfully-that, if the Senator claims the subcommittee has been check- ing on the CIA, then the Senator should have been making reports right along, periodically, to the Committee on For- eign Relations. His subcommittee should have been submitting such re- ports. It should have been submitting such reports to the Committee on Armed Services And to the Committee on Appro- the Senator has commented on. First, I should like to say that there is a great difference in the thinking of the Sena- tor from Massachusetts and myself. How do I know what information r ought to have in regard to CIA that Is in the mind of the Senator from Massachusetts and the other members of his subcom- mittee if be does not volunteer it? If he has been conducting, as a sub- committee of the Senate. an investiga- tion or a study of the CIA, and acquires information which has a bearing upon American foreign policy, I believe it to be his duty to inform the Committee on Foreign Relations, and not to wait for us to pitch in the dark and say, at a meeting of the Committee on Foreign Relations. "I wonder whether the sub- committee has something in which we might be interested." I believe, in carry- ing out my duty as a member of the Committee on Foreign Relations, I am entitled to that Information. I go back to the Saudi Arabian matter which I discussed earlier today. As a member of the Committee on Foreign Relations, I have been greatly concerned about what is going on in the Middle East. I believe we ought to have some Information on It from the CIA. We ought to have some information as to what is going on in Saudi Arabia and in the other countries In the Middle East, The for in Senate Concurrent lution 2 will make that kind of in- formation available to us. The joint AL 11ave duty of sure made to the elected representatives mentioned, the Armed Services, th e Ap- the CIA to ssuutoppl it the clear Lion to such of the people of the facts about our Propriations, and the Foreign Relations us. The Senator's suubcco>~t ee has no foreign policy. Committees, ought to be kept apprised such mandate from the Senate I want We cannot escape the fact that CIA of the subcommittee's findin d gs an with a committee etblihdh sase tat will have has a great deal to do with forming respect to the information the subcom- that kind of mandate. I want to have the foreign policy of the United states. mittee has gathered in regard to its so- established a committee which will have As It makes its report to th secret Can..A St ds ary u - of I e M t . s report to the r. BALTOrre~~A1.L. Mr. President, National Security Council and as it will the Senator from O , regon yield? makes its report indirectly to the press- Then I Shall not interrupt him any fur- dent of the llnited States, it is bound to the!. influence foreign policies, Mr. MORSE. I am glad to yield to the That is why the senator from Massa- Senator from Massachusetts, chusetta has heard me say so many Mr. SALTONSTALL. I have never times-and I repeat it because it is a personally-and r make this a personal truth that must be drummed into the matter because I do not wish to speak thinking of the American people-that for anyone else--asked the Joint Com- our rights as free people are no better mittee on Atomic Energy for any knowl- than our procedural rights, edge It may have obtained, either in pri- vate had better always look at the pro- vate or open hearings, because I have at- eedure we are defending. Let us forget ways considered that those matters were labels for a minute. Let us forget all of primary concern to that Joint commit. the talk about security. Let us, instead, tee. and that they were handling the ask what the procedure is that we coun- matter very well so far as I knew, and tenance. therefore I did not wish to have that kind I say to the Senator from Measachu- of information given to me if it was not necessary e setts that under the procedure he coun- In the for spirit, thave pit. tenances in regard to the CIA. there CIA. same 3 ss qea operate with the are being kept from the American We discuss questions with tham, pie and their representatives in Con- me about certain inforrmation,, I might gress facts which in my judgment they be able to tell him, and tell him reason- ouEht to know. They are facts which ably accurately. I have not done so in go into the formation of American for- the past, because the Senator has not Le repon to the committees of the Senate the kind of in- I close by saying that what is repre sented in the debate today Is a serio us difference of opinion In the administra- tion of our Government. Certainly a very dangerous trend has been develop- ing in Government during the past uar q - _ ter of a century. It is the trend toward Government by secrecy on the part of the executive branch of the Government. I want to know whether that trend is t o continue, and whether, as the Senator from Massachusetts argues this After- noon, in the interest of security there is a body of Information which ought to be kept secret from the elected representa- tives of the people. dew the promise. I say that jnel.. constitutional system of checks nd balances we must watch out for that kind of argument, because in my jud g- ment such an argument Indicates that dan e h g rous s oals lie ahedhl a. soas which can easily wreck our whole ship of free- dom which has been built up under our great Constitution. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 Approved For'Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 r As this debate proceeds on Wednes- day. I think we will have the right to get the answers from the subcommitee to which the Senator from Massachu- setts has referred, In regard to some of their findings. If they, do not want to give them to us in open session, I think we have the right to get them In executive session, because, Mr. Press- dent, when we are dealing with the CIA, we are dealing with America's spy sys- tem; and the American people have a right to know what kind of spying we are doing and what kind of policy we have. A spy system, unless it is very rightly handled, can be a major cause of war. the floor, and i shall defer the-sugges- tion of a quorum call, because I under- stand he wishes t) addrem the Senate, Mr. NEUBEROE#t. Mr. Pre,idcnt-- The PRESIDING OF17CER.. The Junior Senator from Oregon. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 APR 9 1955 A proved For l tease 4'0121W1 /24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R00 Mr. LANG subsequently said: Mr. President, just before the Senator from Montana began to discuss the mat- ter of the CIA, he mentioned the fact that Secretary of the Interior McKay had written a letter involving care of Indians. I did not quite clearly under- stand the attitude of the Secretary of the Interior. Will the Senator tell me exactly what It is? Mr. MANSFIELD. I may say to my distinguished friend from North Dakota that I made a few remarks before rpeak- Ing on Senate Concurrent Resolutim 2, relative to the position in which the In- dians on Hill 67 in Great Palls, Mont., were placed, and I quoted a letter from Secretary McKay which seemed to indi- cate that, so far as Indians off the res- ervation were concerned, there was not a great deal the Federal Government could do or that It intended to do for them. As the Senator from North Dakota well knows, because he has been a true fiend of the American Indian during his many years of service in the Con- gress, we think the Indians off the reser- vation are entitled at least to relief and succor when they are in need and when they are living in the deplorable circum- stances under which they do live, not only in Montana, but in the State of North Dakota and elsewhere. Mr. LANGER. I may say that the Secretary of the Interior is woefully ig- norant of the real situation of the In- dians, when he writes that kind of letter. Before the Senator began his remarks on the CIA, he mentioned the Turtle Mountain Reservation, for example, where five or six thousand Indians live on the land In two townships. The In- dian Commissioner is saying that they should get jobs, so some of them have been working on the Garrison Darn. If the Indians stay on the reservation and become ill or if their families became destitute, it is the job of the Indian Corn- missioner to see that hospital facilities are provided and that the families are taken care of. But the moment an In- dian goes 20, 30, or 40 miles away from home tc, get work, because there is no work on the Turtle Mountain Reserva- tion, and he then becomes ill, It is ap- parently tic position of Mr. McKay that the Indian should go to a private hos- pital and that the Government should not have to pay for his care. correct. TL Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 A P RIII S56 Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161R000 ESTABLISHMENT OP A JOINT COM- MITI EE ON CENTRAL INTELLI- GFNCE The Senate resumed the consideration of the concurrent resolution tS. Con. Res. 2) to establish a Joint Committee on Central Intelligence. Mr. KNOWLAND. Mr. President, I yield 2 minutes to the junior Senator from South Dakota. Mr. CASE of South Dakota. Mr. Pres- ident. I am one of the cosponsors of Sen- ate Concurrent Resolution 2, but I now expect to vote against It. Hence I desire to state briefly the reasons for the vote I shall cast. I offered my name as a cosponsor of the concurrent resolution in the belief that the Central Intelligence Agency needed closer supervision; that It needed to have a sharper sense of responsibility In the spending of money illustrated, for example, by the exorbitant figure they asked for the construction of their new building, and because of other evidence of an Indifference to the dollar sign. I thought it might be desirable also to have joint meetings of the subcommit- tees of the Senate and House Committees on Armed Services and the subcommit- tees of the Committees on Appropria- tions which deal with the Central Intelli- gence Agency. I think it might be de- sirable to have such meetings in any event, whether the concurrent resolution shall be agreed to or not. I think it might be desirable also-and I hope that will be the result of this dis- cussion-for the subcommittees which deal with the Central Intelligence Agency to exert a greater sense of responsibility and closer supervision with respect to some of the activities of that agency. I have concluded to vote against the concurrent resolution because in the broad authority to create a large staff, and in the provision for the borrowing of consultants, experts, technicians. and clerical and stenographic assistance from various agencies of the Govern- ment, I think I sense possibilities that some very highly classified information might become too widely diffused. In that connection, I am reminded of the story- The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time of the Senator from South Dakota has expired. Mr. CASE of South Dakota. May I have 1 more minute? Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. I yield 1 more minute to the Senator from South Dakota. Mr. CASE of Soilth Dakota. I am~ re- minded of the story once told by CHAR- LIE IIALLECK. it Member of the House of Representatives. Mr. IIALLECK told of the man who said, -I never have any trouble in keeping a secret. The trouble is that the folks to whom I tell It will not keep thc,r mouths shut." In this instance, the trouble might be that If we start to borrow clerks and as- sistants from arenr.ies of the Govern- ment to create theo kind of staff which would be represented by $250.000, we might be having secrets told to too many people. I believe, therefore, that the responsi- bility should rest where it now does, namely, with the Committees on Armed Services and the COniinittees on Appro- priations. But I sincerely hope that as a result of the presentation of the con- current resolution and the discussion In connection therewith, those committees will exert a clo=er scrutiny upon the ac- tivities of the Central Intelligence TL Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 :ssT;,x;tL }'ECORD APR 1 1 1956 ATINTL Approved(For,Bgw-Z%W.0UPtoCt1g-RD, 61 RO - 5 111 ti 32e9 An act to provide transportation C:u?din^ v."'t^ela between port. to south- I -', n. Alaska. and between Hydsr, Alanka, id other polr''-8 l^ aQuthea$tern Alaska or the cont!nental United States, either di- rectly or via a foreign port, or for any part ut 'fie transportation. ESTAIItiISHMENT OF JOINT COM- MISTEE ON CENTRAL INTELLI- C3ENCE. The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. I3LBLE in the chair). Is there further morning business? If not, morning business is closed. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, I suggest the absence of a quorum. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll. The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded. The PRESIDING OFFICER. With- out objection, it is so ordered. The Chair lays before the Senate the unfinished business. The Senate resumed the consideration of the concurrent resolution (S. Con. Res. 2) to establish a Joint Committee on Central Intelligence. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, a parliamentary Inquiry. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Texas will state it. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. As I under- stand, there are several committee amendments. Under the unanimous consent agreement, debate on any amendment is limited to 1 hour; and the time on each committee amendment is to be controlled by the chairman of the Committee on Rules and Administration, the distinguished Senator from Rhode Island [Mr. GauwJ, and by the majority leader or the minority leader. Is that correct? The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator's statement is correct. There are about a half dozen committee amendments to the concurrent resolu- tion. Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, will the majority leader yield? Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. I yield. Mr. MANSFIELD. As I understand, debate on the resolution Itself is limited to 2 hours. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. There are several committee amendments which are to be acted on first. If any Senator desires time, time can be yielded on an amendment; and the unanimous-con- sent agreement provides also for 1 hour to each side on the bill. Mr. HAYDEN. Mr. President. I am opposed to the concurrent resolution and have filed minority views. I should like to have some time allotted to me so that I may speak in opposition to the con- current resolution. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Under the unanimous-consent agreement, the Senator can be yielded time by either the majority leader or the minority leader. Does the Senator wish to have time yielded to him? Mr. HAYDEN I should like to speak for about 5 minutes a little later in the debate. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, would the Senator from Georgia be agreeable to speaking in opposition to a committee amendment? Mr. RUSSELL. I merely wish to make a brief statement. Mr. JOHNSO of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, may the clerk state the first com- mittee amendment? The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will state the first committee amendment. The LtcISLATIVE. CLERK. On page S, 21, after "report", it is proposed to strike out "public." The PRESIDING OFFICER. The question is on agreeing to the commit- tee amendment. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, I yield 15 minutes to the dtstln- guished junior Senator from Georgia. Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, I have such high regard for the ability and the patriotism of the distinguished Junior Senator from Montana IMr. Msas- rlaLD], who is the principal sponsor of the concurrent resolution, that ordinari- ly I am reluctant to differ with him on legislative matters. But in the case of the pending concurrent resolution, I can but believe that the efforts of the Senator from Montana are based upon a mistake of fact and a misapprehension of the functions of the Central Intelli- gence Agency. I was unable to be on the floor Mon- day when the debate occurred on the concurrent resolution, but I have read in the RECORD all that occurred, and I do not find that there was advanced one substantial argument, predicated on es- tablished facts which would justify the Senate in adopting the concurrent reso- lution. Some Senators who addressed them- selves to the resolution on Monday last seemed to hold the opinion that the CIA was a pollcymaking agency. That theme ran all through the remarks which were made in advocacy of the adoption of the resolution. Mr. President, the Central Intelligence Agency is far from being it policymaking agency. It makes no policy. It was established to coordinate all the activi- ties of the.various agencies of the Gov- ernment which gather intelligence vital to our national security, to coordinate the intelligence thus obtained, to gather intelligence on its own initiative, ap- praise it, and present it to a policymaking body, one that is seldom heard of, but which is probably the most important policymaking body in our Government, namely, the National Security Council. Mr. President, the argument was made that the failure to apprise Members of Congress of the detailed activities of the Central Intelligence Agency was an in- vasion of the prerogatives of the Con- great. I will lay my record in this body, in defense of the prerogatives of the Congress of the United States under the Constitution, against the record of any other Senator who serves here today or who has served during my tenure of office. I have jealously sought to guard every prerogative of the Congress. I complained when I thought those pre- rogatives were being taken over by the executive branch of the Government, when the President of the United States was a member of my own party, as I have when the President was a member of the Republican Party. I have complained about the invasion of the prerogatives of Congress by the Judicial branch of the Government. But, Mr. President, we go very far afield when we undertake to predicate a resolution of this nature on the right of individual Members of the Congress to know all the details of all the agencies of Government that are working in secrecy in an effort to secure information which would warn us, for instance, of a sneak act which might destroy us, or which would advise us as to the potential strength of the enemies who are arrayed against us. There have been intelligence agencies in the Army since the beginning of our Government. There have been intelli- gence agencies in the Navy since the Navy was established. The Air Force has had its intelligence agency since the Department of the Air Force was created. To my knowledge, not once has a Mem- ber of Congress risen on the floor and said he was being denied his prerogatives because he was not informed as to all the activities of all the agencies which were seeking to gather vital security informa- tion. Now the situation has allegedly changed because, forsooth, the three de- partments have been coordinated into one. In addition, there has been brought into the picture the OSS, which did invaluable service behind enemy lines in World War II. I shall not accept that argument. I do not believe we should announce a principle of that nature. I am proud of the Senate of the United States, but I must any that early in my service I became disillusioned on finding that information classified as secret which was given in committees in executive trickled to the press of the Nation. That has been my one disillusionment with the Senate of the United States, and, Indeed, with both bodies of the Congress. I say here today that, In my judgment, it would be more desirable to abolish the CIA and close it up, lock, stock, and barrel, than to adopt any such theory as that all the Members of the Congress of the United States are entitled to know the details of all the activities of this farflung organization. Mr. President, it was stated In the de- bate, which I read in the RECORD, that the Central Intelligence Agency does not present to the Congress a detailed budget estimate of all its expenditures. That statement is true. It does not present to the Congress an estimate such as comes from the Department of Agricul- ture, the Post Office Department, the Treasury Department, and other depart- ments of government, because to do so would be to give the Soviet Union a Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 5112 Approved For Rel 9AC2b4~M '~ IEL $0' RA100110002-6 blueprint whereby it might readily run down and ascertain the activities and the identity of every person who is risk- Ing his life today in an effort to secure information which can be vital to the future of the United States. I say, and I say it in the full con- viction of the correctness of the state- ment. that one bit of information which has been used on 2 or 3 occasions is well worth the total cost of the admin- istration of all our security agencies. They undoubtedly waste some money. They make mistakes. They have not been able to penetrate behind the Iron Curtain and gather the last detail as to the strength of the Russian forces. Other agencies, such as the British In- telligence, which was In existence long before our agency was, have likewise failed. That Is certainly no reason for circumscribing the Central Intelligence Agency's efforts and hampering it at the very top, when the program is develop- ing and bringing to us information which Is of vital value. There has been talk about the amount of money Involved. I shall not state what it is, but I will state it Is a very, very small percentage of the amount of tax money spent each year by the Armed Forces for research and devel- opment of new weapons. Certainly, we should not complain about a portion of the amount of money spent for research and development being expended in an effort to keep up with the activities of those arrayed against us In that field. I say no person would risk his life In carrying on this work if every Member of the Congress and the large staff of a new committee were in a position to know where that person was every day and to know the nature of the work in which he was engaged. I was Interested to learn that the dis- tinguished author of the resolution said it was contemplated that the committee would have only a small staff. Every Senator present has had experience in that field. It is next to Impossible, when a committee Is created, to keep the staff down to the aim intended originally. Every Senator knows of occasions when a committee has started with a small staff, with the assurance that it would be kept small, and In 2 or 3 years it has been extended all over the Capitol. Most of us are, instinctively, empire builders. We build in our own little field whenever we have authority to du so. It would not be long before the staff of the proposed committee would be large. The point has been raised that there is not any committee supervision over the Agency. The Committee on Armed Services, and its predecessor committees, have, since the inception of the Congress, had jurisdiction over intelligence activi- ties of the various branches of the serv- Ice. During World War II that commit- tee had supervision over the activities of the OSS. Therefore, it was but natural that the Armed Services Committee would be considered the parent commit- tee of the Central Intelligence Agency. I hope I have not been derelict in my duty in reference to this very Important Agency. I appointed the subcommittee, having' jurisdiction over it, which I am confident is composed of as able men as any who sit in this body. The distin- guished senior Senator from Virginia I Mr. Bvsn 1, who is vigorously opposed to the resolution, the distinguished ma- jority leader, the Senator from Texas [Mr. JOHNSON ]. the Senator from Mas- sachusetts [Mr. SALTONSTALL). and the Senator from New Hampshire (Mr. BRrocrsl, are members of that subcom- mittee. On at least 2 occasions in each year, and more often on 3, we have had before us the head of the Central Intelli- gence Agency and his staff. We have never had them fail to respond to a sin- gle question we have asked them. They have been forthright and frank. On the floor of the Senate the state- ment has been made, in effect, that we have not told all the country about what we have learned from the Central Intelli- gence Agency; and one Senator said the country was entitled to know. No, Mr. President; we have not told the country, and I do not propose to tell the country In the future, because if there is anything in the Uniteu States which should be held sacred behind the curtain of classi- fled matter, it is information regarding the activities of this Agency. I repeat that it would be better to abolish it out of hand than it would be to adopt a theory that such Information should be spread and made available to every Member of Congress and to the members of the staff of any committee. Rather than do that, it would be better to abolish the Central Intelligence Agency and, by so doing, to save the money appropriated and the lives of American citizens. Mr. HICKENLOOPER. Mr. President, will the Senator from Georgia yield? The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator from Georgia yield to the Sen- ator'from Iowa? Mr. RUSSELL. Yes: if I have the time. Mr. HICKENLOOPER. Is the time limited? Mr. RUSSELL. Yes; but I yield to the Senator from Iowa. Mr. HICKENLOOPER. I merely wished to make an observation and to ask a question of the Senator from Georgia. Mr. RUSSELL. Certainly. Mr. HICKENLOOPER.. The Senator from Georgia and I have had some mu- tual experiences along this line. He was a member of the Special Committee on Atomic Energy, which was the predeces- sor of the present Joint Committee on Atomic Energy. At all times since its creation, he has been a member of the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy; and I have shared that experience with him, to my very great benefit. So I am in- trigued and interested and very much moved by the argument of the Senator from Georgia. Having served, myself, on the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, and un- derstanding that an attempt has been made by some Members, on the floor of the Senate. to draw an analogy between the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy and the proposed Joint Committee on Central Intelligence, I merely wish to say to the Senator from Georgia that I be- lieve he is utterly correct in what he has April 11 said. There is no real parallel between the problems confronting the two groups. The work of the Central Intelligence Agency is vastly different from that of the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, even though probably it is not more vital and requires no greater secrecy than some of the activities of the Joint Com- mittee on Atomic Energy, in its dealings with the atomic energy program. But I myself cannot adopt the philos- ophy that because we have a Joint Com- mittee on Atomic Energy and because its operations are secret, the establishment of a Joint Committee on Central Intel- ligence, to deal with the Central Intel- ligence Agency, is justified. So I commend the Senator from Georgia on his very powerful and forceful argument along this line. Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, I thank the Senator from Iowa for bring- ing out that point, which I had over- looked thus far in my discussion. The point he has mentioned has been raised. I started serving with the Senator from Iowa on what was first the Special Committee on Atomic Energy, when it was created. Mr. HICKENLAOPER. Yes, both of us were on that special committee, which was created to write the Atomic Energy Act. Mr. RUSSELL. Yes. Since that time I have served-with great profit to my- self-with the Senator from Iowa on the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy. I have also served on the Committee on Naval Affairs, a precedecessor of the present Armed Services Committee, since I have been a Member of this body. I state on my responsibility as a Sena- tor that there is no comparison what- ever between the activities of the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy and the activities of the Central Intelligence Agency or the contemplated activities of the proposed Joint Committee on Central Intelligence. Mr. HICKENLOOPER. They operate in two different fields. Although secrecy is involved in both, the methods of opera- tion and of accomplishment of the two groups are entirely different. Mr. RUSSELL,. Yes. For example, the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy has the duty of maintaining surveillance on a very large and important construc- tion program, under which certain pro- duction is had. In that work, thousands of persons, including scientists, are em- ployed; and a large part of that work is devoted to seeing to It that the produc- tion program and the construction pro-. gram of the Atomic Energy Commission are maintained. But nothing whatever of that nature pertains to the secret Intelligence work of such a group as the Central Intelligence Agency, Mr. HICKENLOOPER. Mr. Presi- dent, the Senator from Georgia has placed his finger on one of the most im- portant differences between the two agencies. There are other differences, of course: but I shall not attempt to' discuss them at this time. Suffice it to say that the operations of the two groups are fundamentally and basically dif- ferent; and it is inherent in the operation of the CIA that it be given certain broad powers and authority, subject. In my Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 Approved For QM66//4 :ft8'- 6?0100110002-6 judgment, to the major supervision of suit In the disclosure of all the agents the executive branch of the Government. who had been operating there, and Mr. RUSSELL. Yes. Of course, the might mean their death by hanging or National Security Council has direct execution in the matter of a few days' supervision over it. time. Mr. HICKENLOOPER, yes. Mr. RUSSELL. But I wish to reiterate that although Mr. Allen W. Dulles has been before us and although we have asked him very searching questions about some activities which it almost chills the marrow of a man to hear about, he has never failed to answer us forthrightly and frankly in response to any question we have asked him. I think the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. SALTONSTALL) has been present at practically every one of those meetings during the past 2 or 3 years. Mr. HICKENLOOPER. Mr. Presi- dent, I should like to ask only one other question, and then I shall conclude. As the Senator from Georgia well knows, before the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy we have had Mr. Allen Dulles and his top asssistants, in con- nection with the various categories of the activities of the Central Intelligence Agency. They have appeared before our committee in connection with matters applicable to our responsibility in the atomic energy field. I also wish to testify, following the statement of the Senator from Georgia, that at no time has Mr. Dulles or any of those under him who are knowledgeable regarding so broad a subject, failed to give us full, complete, and frank answers to our questions re- garding the matters which come within our responsibility. Let me say that we, as a committee, do not attempt to tres- pass upon the responsibility of other committees In other areas. Mr. RUSSELL. Yes; Mr. President; that has been the experience of the Armed Services Committee. Mr. KNOWLAND. Mr. President, will the Senator from Georgia yield to me? Mr. RUSSELL. I yield. Mr. KNOWLAND. First of all, r wish to commend the distinguished Senator from Georgia for the very powerful ar- gument he has made in regard to the differences between the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy and the proposed Joint Committee on Central Intelligence. As the Senator from Georgia well knows, among the other differences is the fact that the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy was created by statute and was riven legislative power, as c legislative committe?. Matters relating to the Atomic Energy Act go to that committee. Second, I refer to a fact which must be brought home in this connection: I know that the Fresident of the United States and others in the executive branch of the Government have very itrave misgivings regarding the pending concurrent resolution, not only for the reason that the lives of Americans who may be seeking to obtain information which we need for the very defense of our country may be involved, but also because we have cooperative arrange- ments with other agencies and perhaps with friendly countries, and the slightest leakage of information regarding per- haps just one field of activity might re- Mr. RUSSELL. Of course they would be liquidated immediately. Mr. President, I shall not dwell on all of the many differences between the CIA and the Atomic Energy Commission. Instead, I shall point out only one or two. In the first place, the principal opera- tions of the Atomic Energy Commission are within the United States, whereas most of the operations of the CIA are outside the United States. The Atomic Energy Commission is primarily con- cerned with preserving security. On the other hand, the CIA is primarily con- cerned with breaking security and ob- taining secrets. There is a great deal of difference between the two groups, when we consider that fundamental of their activities. I feel very deeply that it would be a serious mistake to approve the concur- rent resolution. The Committee on Appropriations Is headed by the distinguished Senator from Arizona IMr. HAYDENI. Repre- sentatives of the Central Intelligence Agency come before the Committee on Appropriations each year. I have been present on 2 or 3 occasions when the committee was hearing the request of the CIA for funds with which to operate. The representatives of that Agency have never failed to answer a question which was asked on any of the occasions when I was present, as to the operations and the use of the money which had been appropriated for the Agency. Great stress has been laid on the fact that the law does not limit the expendi- tures for individual personnel, as made by the Director of the Central Intel- ligence Agency. I can say here-and I do not think it involves any violation of secrecy-that that question has arisen repeatedly, both in the Appropriations Committee and before the subcommittee of the Armed Services Committee, when the Director of the CIA appeared before the subcommittee. With the exception of the Director and his assistant, whose salaries are fixed by statute, all the other employees are paid according to civil service scales. It has been exceedingly difficult to ob- tain the character of men needed to carry on this work. The CIA cannot send a mere plodder or dullard, however earnest he may be. to do some of the work which is necessary to be done. With the exception of the Director and his assistant, whose Salaries are fixed by statute, the agency pays only civil serv- lee scales. Mr. President, I can think of no sound reason which would justify approval of this concurrent resolution. I think it would be just as appropriate to establish a joint committee to deal with foreign policy-or perhaps even more appropri- ate-as it would be to establish a joint committee to deal with the Central In- telligence Agency. I shall endeavor, to the best of my ability, to keep in touch with what the 5.113 CIA is doing. I do not mean to say by that that I intend to undertake to find out whether or not we have an agent in some foreign oountry-perhaps a satel- lite-who is tapping the telephone of some foreign embassy, or anything of that nature. However, I shall under- take to exercise as close supervision over this Agency as is ordinarily exercised by the parent committees of the Congress in dealing with the agencies which are responsible to them. I doubt very much whether the heads of many of the independent agencies have pent more time with the commit- tees to which they are supposed to re Port, over the course of the average year,. than Mr. Dulles, as Director, has spent before my committee. This is a grave question, and one which should not be considered from the standpoint of politics. It should be con- sidered only from the standpoint of the national Interest. In my Judgment, the . national interest does not require that we create a new joint committee, with a new staff. To do so would result only in Increasing the hazards to the lives of those who work for the CIA, and dry up sources of information which are Mr. SALTONSTALL Mr. President, will the Senator yield for one question? Mr. RUSSELL. I yield. Mr. SALTONSTALL. Does not the Senator agree with me that the CIA Is essentially a service agency? It is not. a policy-making body in any way, as.is the Atomic Energy Commission, to which reference has been made. The differences between the two have been pointed out. The CIA is a service agency. The Director, Mr. Alien Dulles, does not make policy. He does not judge conditions. He merely reports to the National Security Council, which is directly under the President, who is the Director's boss. Mr. RUSSELL, As I undertook to state at the outset of my remarks, I was somewhat dumbfounded to note that the argument had been made that the CIA was a policymaking agency. I think it." is far from that. The best analogy I can : draw is this: When the National Secu- rity Council meets-,and there Is present in the Chamber at this moment the dis-' tinguished junior Senator from Ken tucky [Mr. BAaxLEY], a former Vice President of the United States, who set with that Council through some of the very trying hours in the life of.this Re Public-It has two primary advisers.,, ' The first is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, of the Military Establish tion. The second is the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, who gives the National Security Council the results of the efforts of his Agency in relation to the intelligence it has been able to as semble concerning the problem at hand. He Is an adviser. He is not even a mem- ber of the National Security Council: and by no stretch of the imagination can the CIA be considered a policymaking In the course of the debate on Monday, which I have read, a number of extrane. ous questions were brought up. Among Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 5111 ...ONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENA IT April 11 other things, It was f4111 ghViqrhDlea"e2lIQ Qrl( , ~~CIA RDP840r is161aR000100f110now 00 yieellding 10 minutes i en some secrecy in connection with the now running on that amendment. to the Senator from Montana. Dixon-Yates contract. That was unfor- Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Has all Mr. MANSFIELD, Mr. President, I tutiate. I deplore It, but I hope Members time been used on that amendment? do not believe I desire to take 10 minutes of the Senate will not lay at the feet of The PRESIDING OFFICER. The op- at this time, because I am beginning to the CIA responsibility fqr any secrecy position time Is exhausted. Thirty min- feel a little like David facing Goliath, which may have obtained with respect to utes remain on the affirmative side. although I fear the results will not be the a telephone call from someone at the Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. The ma- same. Inasmuch as I am to be the only White House regarding the Dixon-Yates Jority leader controls the time on behalf one who will speak in favor of the reso- contract. of the chairman of the Committee on lution. I do not wish to be squeezed question was raised with respect Rules and Administration IMr. HAYDE? 1. this early. Therefore, If the majority jy to the signing by the Chief Executive of so he controls only the time in favor of leader does not mind, I shall wait until executive agreements concerning which the amendment. Is the Senator from the distinguished former Vice President. Congress had no knowledge. I feel as Montana opposed to the amendment? the distinguished minority leader, the deeply on that subject as do most other Mr. MANSFIELD. I am not opposed distinguished chairman of the Commit- Members of the Senate Perhaps T ,in to it not feel quite so deeply about it as does Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Will the the distinguished Senator from Ohio acting minority leader yield 10 minutes IMr. BRICKSSI, but I have followed him to the Senator from Montana? in his efforts to see that such executive Mr. SALTONSTALL. Mr. President, I agreements were not made. However, am glad to yield time to the Senator we cannot att.ib t t u o o the CIA responsi- bility for the fact that executive agree- ments were made. The CIA has no pow- er even. to negotiate executive agree- ments. Other arguments were made. Some- thing was said about the impounding of Marine Corps funds. That has no rela- tion whatever to the functions of the CIA, or the desirability of our doing all we can, while still performing our func- tions as a legislative body, to see that the lives of those who work for this agency are not endangered by any haphazard administration by the large staff of a joint committee, which, in my opinion, would be a very cumbersome fifth wheel. Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President- Mr. SALTONSTALL. Mr. President, a parliamentary Inquiry. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator will state It. Mr. SALTONSTALL. Does the acting minority leader have charge of the time in opposition? The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator Is correct. To whom does the Senator yield? Mr. SALTONSTALL. Of course, the Senator from Montana Is in favor of the concurrent resolution, so he would.take time on the affirmative side. Mr. BARKLEY. Mr. President a fur- , , a e me only ther parliamentary inquiry. on the measure itself, as I und.rstand. The PRESIDING OP:TICER, The May I inquire how I may obtain some Senator will state it. time to speak on the resolution, and Mr. BARKLEy. There are pending when I may have that time? 2 or 3 committee amendments, on 1 of Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. The Sena- which I believe the Senator from Georgia tor from Kentucky may have as much iMr. RUS-SELLI took time to discuss the time as he wishes to use. If he will in- concurrent resolution itself. Has any dicate to me when he desires to speak, limitation of debate been imposed up to and how much time he may want. this time with respect to amendments? Mr. BARKLEY. I told the Senator Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, I from Arizona that I would like not less think the answer Is that an hour is al_ than 10 minutes. lowed on each amendment, 30 minutes Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Does the to a side, and 2 hours on the concurrent Senator from Kentucky desire to use resolution itself. that time now? The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Mr. BARKLF,y. No; I do not. Senator from Texas yield to the Senator Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. I assure the from Montana? Senator from Kentucky that he will have Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. I am willing 10 minutes, and 10 additional minutes to yield 10 minutes to the Senator from if he should desire them. Montana. Has the first committee As this time I do not agree to the amendment been disposed of? adoption of the amendments en bloc. I The PRESIDING} OFFICER. It has have yielded 10 minutes to the Senator not. from Montana. After the Senator from Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Has time Montana has concluded his remarks, I been consumed on that amendment? am prepared to yield time to other Sen- the majority leader that -I -d; not think there is any objection to the committe amendments. It seems to me that the Senate could agree to the committee amendments, and then proceed to debate the concurrent resolution itself. Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, a parliamentary inquiry. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, if the Senate will permit me to do so, we will charge the time the Sena- tor from Georgia IMr. Russcar.I has used to the time of the opposition, and I will then yield 10 minutes to the Sena- tor from Montana. Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, a parliamentary inquiry. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator will state it. Mr. MANSFIELD. Would it be pos- sible at this time to vote on all the amendments en bloc? The, PRESIDING OFFICER. By unanimous consent it could be done. Mr. BARKLEY. Mr. President, I de- sire to address the Senate on the con- current resolution Itself. I do not know how much time I may want to use, but I do not wish to deprive myself of address- ing the Senate on the resolution. If I agreed to the adoption of all the amend- ments en bloc that would le v ti tee on Appropriations, the distinguished chairman of the Armed Services Com- mittee, and other Senators, have an op- portunity to speak. Then I should like to make some remarks in favor of the adoption of the resolution. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. The Sena- tor from Montana will have ample time to speak. Does he yield back the time I yielded him? Mr. MANSFIELD, I yield back the time. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Does any other Senator desire time to speak in favor of the committee amendment? If no other Senator desires time at this time, I am prepared to yield back my time. Mr. BARKLEY, Mr. President Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. I yield time to the Senator from Kentucky, if he desires to speak now. Does the Senator from Kentucky desire that I yield him some time? Mr. BARKLEY. I do. Mr. JOHNSON of Texas. Mr. Presi- dent, I yield 15 minutes to the distin- guished Senator from Kentucky. Mr. BARKLEY. Mr. President, I do not know that I shall need 15 minutes. I am very deeply concerned about the resolution. If it were a bill or a joint resolution, instead of a concurrent reso- lution. I feel very definitely that the President of the United States would have no alternative except to veto it. I sincerely regret to say that I am com- pelled to disagree with my good friend. from Montana about the wisdom of the resolution. We have before us a concurrent reso- lution which proposes to set up a com- mittee of 12 members, with a staff. It would cost $250,000 a year I would not . object to that sum of money being appro- priated, if the proposed joint commit- tee were needed. In my judgment It is not only not needed, but it would be very u i nw se on the part of Congress to estab- 11ah it. The concurrent resolution would au- thorize the joint committee to summon members of the Central Intelligence Agency. It would authorize the joint committee to summon all the papers and documents of the Central Intelligence Agency, and to obtain from that agency all the Information the joint commit- tee desired to obtain, which information, of course, would then be public. I ask my colleagues if the desire to make public, for the benefit of the Amer- ican people, all the confidential infor- mation the CIA obtains all over the world is sufficient reason to justify the danger, Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 Approved For Re W$l- W1 '4k;-CI34ADRI -A09$ 'QDB100110002-6 5115 t(, which we would subject ourselves and a iiich we would assume by the creation of such a committee and taking the chances on its operations. As the Senate knows, Congress en- acted a law creating the Central Intelli- gence Agency. That Agency is a confi- dential body. It is an arm of the Presi- dent of the United States for obtaining, not only in the United States, but all over the world, information which is of advantage to him in the protection of the interests and rights of the American people. Being an arm of the President, it is therefore an arm of the National Security Council. CIA is the information-gathering agency of the National Security Coun- cil. The duty of the CIA is to gather from all sources and to lay before the President and the National Security Council information of the most intimate and confidential nature, which will en- able the President and the National Se- curity Council to act to protect the se- curity of our own country, without mak- ing public the information which this Agency has gathered from all parts of the world. I sat on the National Security Council for 4 years as Vice President of the United States. The present Vice Presi- dent has sat on it since his induction Into office, on the 20th day of January 1953. Some of the information gathered by the Central Intelligence Agency and laid before the National Security Coun- cil itself was so confidential and secret that the very portfolios In which it was contained were under lock and key. The members of the National Security Council were not even permitted to take those folders and portfolios to their homes. They had to be unlocked in the presence of other members. One of the distinguished heads of that Agency for 2 or 3 years was Gen. Walter Bedell Smith, the famous soldier and diplomat. During the time when he was the head of the Agency he sat in the National Security Council. The Infor- mation I received as a member of the National Security Council, in my capac- ity as Vice President, was so confiden- tial that I would lose my right arm be- fore I would divulge It to anyone, even to members of my own family. To say that now we should establish a joint committee to pry into and look Into secret documents, to submit them before the joint committee, and to make them public seems to me incredible. Mr. SALTONSTALL. Mr. President, will the Senator yield? Mr. BARKLEY. I am glad to yield. Mr. SALTONSTALL, I would appre- ciate very much the Senator's views on what a staff member of such a commit- tee could do. It seems to me that a staff member could do nothing, Mr. BARKLEY. I presume the staff members, whoever they might be, would be under the direction of the Joint com- mittee, and perhaps under the chairman of the joint committee, whoever he might be. According to the custom of committees, whether joint or single, the staff members would probably be author- ized by the joint committee, if not di- rected, to invade the precincts of the National Security Council and obtain confidential information for the benefit of the Joint committee, preparatory to a public hearin, . to which they would have the right to summon members of the Security Council, and for which they would have the right to subpena docu- ments. Mr. GORE. Air. President, will the Senator from Kentucky yield? Mr. BARKLEY. I yield. Mr. GORE. I am a member of the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy. In that capacity I have received informa- tion upon many occasions which I would regard as just as confidential, just as delicate, just as sensitive, as is the in- formation to which the distinguished junior Senator from Kentucky has re- ferred. It is difficult for me to draw the line of distinction. How is it that the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy can deal with the topmost secrets of the Gov- ernment and establish a responsible rec- ord in doing so. a record both in the re- tention and safeguarding of secrets given in executive session, and also In the con- duct of public hearings, when some other committee could not establish a simi- larly satisfactory record? Mr. BARKLEY. The Senator from Georgia and the Senator from Iowa a moment ago discussed the fundamental difference between the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy and the proposed Joint Committee on the CIA. The Sen- ator from Tennessee may not have been present at the time the discussion took place, and I should be glad to yield to the Senator from Georgia if he wishes to re- peat what was said, because I am not a member of the Atomic Energy Commit- tee, a member of the Armed Services Committee, or a member of the Appro- priations Committee. Both the Armed Services Committee and the Appropria- tions Committee receive information from the CIA and also from the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy. I should prefer that the Senator from Georgia answer the question of the Senator from Tennessee. Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, I stated that I was on the original Atomic Energy Committee of the Senate which wrote the legislation creating the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, and I have served on that committee, although not so actively as has the Senator from Ten- nessee, during the past few years. I was on one of the original committees which was superseded by the Committee on Armed Services, and I had been on the Naval Affairs Committee ever since I be- came a Member of the Senate. In my opinion, there I% no comparison whatever between the activities of the two committees. The Joint Committee on Atomic Energy Is supposed more or less to be a policy-developing agency which deals with tremendous programs of construction and production. Its pri- mary function is to undertake to preserve secrecy within the United States. On the other hand, the CIA. which is a con- solidation of the intelligence agencies which existed heretofore, functions out- side the United States, and its principal endeavor Is to break secrecy and to ob- tain secrets. There is a great deal of difference be- tween undertaking to preserve secrets as to what occurs in one of the great plants of the Atomic Energy Commission, and the case of Joe Jones who may be en- deavoring to obtain secrets in one of the satellite countries, and who, if his ac- tivities were disclosed, would be liqui- dated immediately. Mr. GORE. Mr. President, will the Senator from Georgia yield? Mr. RUSSELL. I yield. Mr. GORE. A little more than an hour from now a subcommittee of the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy is scheduled to meet in executive session. One of the great military figures of our country is scheduled to testify before it. He is called to testify on one of the most sensitive and delicate matters of national policy. He is to discuss stockpiling and stockpile needs and requirements. That Is just as secret, just as sensitive, just as necessary to be safeguarded as is the In- formation to which the able junior Sen- ator from Georgia has referred. As I understood his remarks the dis- tinguished junior Senator from Ken- tucky was addressing the Senate on the inadvisability of having a joint commit- tee of the Congress deal with highly secret matters. I rose to point out that the committee on which the junior Sen- ator from Georgia and the junior Sena- tor from Tennessee have the opportunity to serve has established an enviable and almost unblemished record of preserv- ing secrets, dealing with them respon- sibly, and also holding public hearings so as to enlighten the public on matters which can safely be brought to public notice. I cannot quite draw the line of distinction. Mr. RUSSELL. If the Senator from Kentucky will indulge me, I did not make the point he cited. The Central Intel- ligence Agency does report to the Armed Services Committee when it is requested to do so. I have stated that they have answered frankly, forthrightly, and fully every question asked by the Armed Serv- ices Committee. There is no necessity for having the proposed Joint committee when there are four committees which are in a satisfactory manner supervising intelligence activities, as has been done since the beginning of the Republic. I stated that there was no need of creating a joint committee, with a staff added, to undertake.to delve into the activities of the Central Intelligence Agency overseas. I do not wish to prolong the discus- sion. I appreciate the Indulgence of the Senator from Kentucky, but I must state for the Rscosn that I disagree with the Senator from Tennessee that there is no difference between evidence relating to stockpiling in the United States and evi- dence relating to someone who has succeeded in some satellite country in tapping the telephone of a foreign am- bassador. I think there is a consider- able difference. If we adopt this kind of policy and establish a new joint commit- tee, we are going to dry up sources of information. Men will not be willing to endanger their lives, and there will be a disruption of the very fine cooperative relations existing between our agency and the similar agencies of other coun- Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 5416 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -SENATE April 11 Approved For. Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 tries, notably the ritiah Intelligence while I am acting temporarily for the terns relating to the gathering of intelligence Agency, which has been one of the best Senator from Texas, desires to have me affecting the national security and of its cu- for many years. yield him time. ordination and utilization by the various de- The PRESIDING OFFICER. The If the Senator from Montana were partments. agencies, and Instrumentalities of Central committee Itintelligence the time of the Senator from Kentucky has agreeable, I would have no objection to e. The Agency shall l keep the joint nt fully expired. having the committee amendments and currently informed with respect to its Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President. the agreed to en bloc, and then yielding to activities. All bills, resolutions, and other Senator from Texas (Mr. JoHnsoNl was the Senator from Montana such time matters in the Senate or the House of Repre- called from the floor and asked me tem- as he might desire as the author of the .antatives relating primarily to the Central porarily to function in his absence. I concurrent resolution, Intelligence Agency shall be referred to the shall be glad to yield 5 additional I may say to the Senator from Mon- joint committee. o Of f the he e S S joint shall all committee minutes to the Senator from Kentucky. tans that the Senator from Missouri who 4b) are Members T members from m. Mr. BARKLEY. I thank the Senator (Mr. 8 wNCror11 wishes to speak for a Ume to time report to the Senate, and the from Georgia. few minutes. Did the Senator from members of the joint eommittee who are Mr. GORE. Mr. President, will the Montana wish to conclude the debate? Members of the House of Representatives Senator from Kentucky yield? Mr. MANSFIELD. Not necessarily. shall from time to time report to the House, Mr. BARKLEY. I yield. I shall be glad to follow the Senator's by bill or otherwise, their recommendations Mr. GORE. I thank the distinguished suggestion. with respect to matters within the jurisdic- tion of their respective Houses which are junior Senator from Kentucky. Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, with (1) referred to the joint committee, or (2) The observations of the junior Sena- the agreement of the distinguished Sen- otherwise within the jurisdiction of the joint tor from Georgia are well taken with ator from Massachusetts (Mr. SALTOK- committee. reference to the substantial ground on STALL), who is the acting minority "Sm. 3. Vacancies In the membership of which he has indicated he is opposed to leader, I, as the acting majority leader, the joint committee shall not affect the power the pending proposal. Other than on ask unanimous consent that the com- of the remaining members to execute the the ground that a joint committee can- mittee amendments be considered as functions of the joint committee, and shall not be trusted with preserving essential o tilled the .ems manner as In the can. agreed to en bloc, and that the time of f the original eslectioa. TM joist commit. secrecy. I shall not challenge his posi- remaining on the amendments be yielded We shall select a chairman and a vice chair- tion. But I would respectfully challenge back, man from among Its members. the position taken by any Senator, if The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there "Sec. 4. The joint committee, or any duly such a position should be taken, that a objection? The Chair hears none, and suthortsod subcommittee thereof, is author- Joint committee could not responsibly It is so ordered. lead to hold such hearings, to sit and act at deal with the most sensitive secrets of our The committee amendments agreed to such places and times, to require, by sub- Government. It was for that purpose en bloc are as follows: pens or otherwise, the attendance of such that I rose, and I thank my distinguished On page S. line 21. after the word "report pa pa witne perss,s,aad std the documents, to production of such administer touper such en and able friend from Kentucky for yield- to strike out "public": in line 23. after the oaths, to take such testimony, to procure Ing. word Senate", to strike out "The cost of such such printing and binding, and to make such Mr. BARKLEY. Mr. President, there services to report executive hearings shall be expenditures es it deems advisable. The cost Is one thing which differentiates tale Axed at an equitable rate by the joint corn- of stenographic services to report hearings Joint Committee on Atomic Energy from mlttee"; on page 4, line e. after the word shall not be in .Roees of the amounts pre- the proposed Committee. The Joint "Government", to Insert "on a reimbusable scribed by law for reporting the hearings of basis with the prior consent of the heads of standing committees of the Senate. Committee on Atomic Energy deals the departments or agencies concerned and , 5. 7%e joint committee U empowered legislatively with atomic energy. I have the Committee on Rules and Administra- to appoint such experts consultants tech- nothing but the greatest admiration for tion"; in line 11, after the word "paid", to nlcians, and clerical and stenographic as. the manner in which that joint commit- strike out "one-half"; In line 12 after the ststants as It deems necessary and advisable. tee has functioned. But the Central In- word "Senate", to strike out "and one-half The oommitt . is authorized to utilize the telligence Agency deals with all manner from the contingent fund of the House of services. information, facilities, and person- Representatives"; sub Representatives"; and in line 14, after the the departments everywhere throughout the word "chairman" to strik ncl of and eatablishmenta t "D i b e ou s urse- , world. It is not limited to any particu- meets to pay such expenses shall be made by of the Government on a reimbursable basis i of the Made the lar form of defense or any particular the Secretary the prior consent ry of the Senate out of the coo- departments or agencies eoaoerned and d the form of offense. It is the duty of the tangent fund of the Senate, such contingent Committee on Rules and Administration. CIA to encompass the entire world and fund to be reimbursed from the contingent ' , "8eC ? The expenses to report to the Security Council and fund of the House of Representatives In the lei of the joint com- il amount of one-half of the disbursements so mince, which snap not exceed $2bOA0o per the President On the Securit C , y ounc made."; so as to make the concurrent reso- year, shad be paid from the contingent fund the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of lution read: of the Senate upon vouchers signed by the lli e A g ce gencys.e . Representatives concurring), That there > Mr. RUSSSLI Mr. - Prsident, as I I feel very deeply and sincerely that hereby established a Joint Committee on understand, the Senator from Maass.- t4) open the records and the person l c t l I t ra en ne n elligence to be composed of 6 chusetts (Mr. SaLromirAll,) would have of the CIA, which is an intelligence Members of the Senate to be appointed by to yield time to the Senator from MIS. agency that gathers valuable and highly the President of the Senate, and a Members souri. Although I am very confidential information from all over of the House of Representatives to be ap- much opposed the world, would handicap the CIA In pointed by the Speaker of the House of Rep- to the concurrent resolution. I. as the obtaining e the information which is so resentatives. Of the 6 members to be ap- acting majority leader, am supposed to th pointed from the Senate, 3 shall be members yield time only to Senators who favor essential to our defense. The activities h C . e ommu,ee on Appropriations the CIA makes reports on the entire of the Senate. and 3 shall be members of the Mr. SALTONSTALI,. Mr. President,, world situation. Central Intelligence Agency Subcommittee of do I understand correctly that the tom. Because I believe it 1s not now neces- the Committee on Armed Services of the nlittee amendments have been agreed to? nary to create such a joint committee, Senate. Of the a members to be appointed The PRESIDING OFFICER. The be fraught with great danger. I shall Subcommittee of the Committee on AR- - The question before the Senate is on oppose and vote against the concurrent Fer oo priatlntia the agreeing to the concurrent resolution, House of Representative,. resolution which is now before the and a all ll be members of the the Central ral In. - as amended. Senate. t.elllgence Agency Subcommittee of the Corn- Mr. SALTONSTAIZ. I yield 10 min- There is nothing more that I can say, mittee on Armed Services, of the House of uteg, or as much of that time as he de- and nothing more that I desire to say, ~ eae ntives. Not more tthan four or rnem- sires, to the Senator from Missouri i Mr. In regard to the matter. I hope the House of Represfrom eithhe Senate th SYxruoroxl who wishes to speak In op- entatives shall be from the Senate will not agree to the concurrent same political party. position to the concurrent resolution. resolution . "Sec. 2. (a) The joint committee shalt Mr. SYMINGTON. Mr. President, I . Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, I do make continuing studies of the activities of appreciate the kindness of the distin- not know whether any other Senator, the Central Intelligence Agency and of prob- guished Senator from Massachusetts. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 wNGRESSIONAL RECORD -_S rNp E 5417 Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP8-4=0D 131 R000100110002-6 Asa former member of the National reference to the $40 million appropriated the praetorian guard it has in the White Security Council, I have had consider- by Congress last year for the marine House, and certain agencies, has taken able experience with the Central Intel- Corps which the executive branch did unto himself. If Senators do not wake ligence Agency, which reports to the not use to carry out the unanimous in- up, some day they will find that they are National Security Council. tent and mandate of Congress, had no members of a debating society, and not In my opinion, it would be a mistake proper connection with this subject. Members of the Senate of the United to establish the proposed joint commit- Of course, it has no connection directly, States, as the Constitution Intended tee. The Central Intelligence Agency but it has a connection indirectly. them to be. Subcommittee of the Senate Commit- What is the executive branch trying Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, will the tee on Armed Services is composed of to do? It is trying to take over, loci[. Senator yield? the distinguished junior Senator from stock, and barrel, as many of the func- The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Mc Georgia (Mr. RUSSELL], as chairman; tions of the legislative branch as It pos- NAMARA in the chair). Does the Senator the majority leader, the distinguished sibly can. Let us examine the record, from Montana yield to the Senator from senior Senator from Texas (Mr. Joxx- simply to prove that point. The criti- Georgia? sox I ; the distinguished senior senator clam applies to Democratic as well as to Mr. MANSFIELD, I shall yield in a from Virginia I Mr. BYRD]: the present Republican administrations. moment. What happened when the rea- acting minority leader, the distinguished When President Roosevelt was in office, olution was to be considered by the Com- Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. SAL- on three separate occasions he promul- mittee on Rules and Administration? TONSTALLI; and the distinguished senior gated executive agreemen a,which were. Two days before, the President of the Senator from New Hampshire [Mr. in effect and in fact, treaties of friend- United Etates announced the creation of BR IDOLS), who is the ranking Republican ship and commerce. Under the advice an 8-man Civilian Board to advise him Member of the AenktA' --A ------ I .. - ... . ven- taac aaaau s uvf wr cVIUMIT6- tee of the Senate? I do not see why, under the present circumstances, there should be a special joint committee to supervise the Cen- tral Intelligence Agency. I am sorry not to have been present for all the debate, having just returned from. Omaha, Nebr., and have just now reached the floor. This is one of the few times It has been my misfortune not to be able to vote with my able colleague, the distinguished junior Senator from Montan (Mr. MArfs- rIELD 1. He knows of my respect and affection for him. Nevertheless, In this case I cannot agree with him. I thank the Senator from Massachu- Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, I shall be glad to yield to the junior Senator from Montana as much time as he may desire from the 2 hours on the bill. Mr. MANSFIELD, I shall take only 15 minutes. - The PRESIDING OFFICER. The junior Senator from Montana is recog- nized for 15 minutes. Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, I wish my friend, the distinguished Sen- ator from Missouri, had remained in Omaha. Unfortunately for the Concur- rent resolution, he has returned and is opposed to it. That means, of course, that the odds are lengthening a little more, because in addition to a former Vice President of the United States, who also was a member of the National Secur- ity Council: in addition to the distin- guished junior Senator from Georgia IMr. RUSSELL]. who is a great states- man and a fine friend, and is outstand- ing as the chairman of the Senate Com- mittee on Armed Services; in addition to the senior Senator from Arizona [Mr. HAYDEN], who has served his State ably rind well since it achieved statehood, and who also is a very fine friend: in addi- tion to the ranking minority member of the Senate Committee on Armed Services, the distinguished Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. SALTONsTALLI; and it, addition to the minority leader of the House; we find also that the President of the United States and the Central Intel- ligence Agency itself are opposed to the concurrent resolution. The Senator from Georgia (Mr. RUs- ELLI suggested that the statement with those treaties should have come before that Board have? None, really. -It is the Senate for consideration and ap- to meet once e.,ery 6 months, To whom proval. Mind you, Mr. President, there is the Board to report? To the Presi- were three executive agreements which dent of the United States. Will the should have been negotiated as treaties members of the Board be able to give of friendship and commerce, and which out any information to anybody else? should have come be.(ore the Senate for No, not at all. In this particular in- Its advice and consent. But what did the stance where does Congress come in? Senate do in that respect? The Senate What type of men are we? Do we have did nothing. It willingly relinquished responsibilities? We are elected. We the authority and the responsibility have to fight for these jobs. We repre- which were accorded it under the Con- sent the people. We are not appointed, stitution. We have to make an accounting of the President Truman acted in similar responsibilities which have been thrust fashion. Again, what did Congress do? upon us. Congress appropriated funds for it 70- When word was received that the reso- group Air Force. What happened? lution was going to be considered, the President Truman impounded the money President announced, and I believe hur- and allowed only enough to be spent for riedly-and I do not blame him for it- a 48-group Air Force. That was just that the Board had been created, and he before the Korean war. Do Senators said he was doing it in accord with the remember that? If that was not a flout- recommendations of the Hoover Com- ing of congressional authority, I do not mission. He was partly right, but only know What it was. Certainly it meant halfway right, because the Hoover Com- that the executive branch was not a co- mission said that not only should a civil- equal branch of the Government, but ian board be created, but ' that a joint was the predominant branch of the Gov- congressional committee should be cre- ernment. ated as well. And that was the second We find that last year Congress unan- time the Hoover Commission had rec- imously restored $40 million in order to ommended the creation of a joint con- keep the Marine Corps at its then gressional committee. strength, to prevent its reduction by What do we have now? We have the s 25 e n ce a year worldwide commitments we have In it appears before the Appropriations addition, the Navy was cut down. Those Subcommittee, and at that time the offi- actions on the part of the administra- cials of the CIA ask for money. Ask tion indicate to me that there is a for how much? What do we know about trend-a strong trend-and a trend to the funds appropriated to them? What which the Senate and the Congress are do we know about the agency's person- acceding-on the part of the executive nel? We do not know anything. Per- to take over more aria more control. haps we should not, but we ought to have I cannot understand u by the constitu- a standing joint committee which can tional lawyers in this body do not rise take care of it. on their hind legs and protest against I think it is well. to refer to another the loss of power which is being suffered point, since the distinguished Senator by the Congress, and especially the ben- from Georgia has brought it out. The ate, and take some action to regain the Senator referred to my remarks about a powers which the Executive, through small staff. Of course, that staff would Missouri I Mr. SYMINGTON ), who now and give them some security and an out- speaks against the concurrent resolution, let which they do not have now, because Was it only the Marine Corps which the contracts they have with the Con- was cut down last year? Not at all. gress are very thin, indeed. The strength of the At-my was reduced What did the distinguished Senator by approximately 300,000 men. So on from Massachusetts say on Monday last? June 30 of this year there will be 1,025,000 Twice a year the CIA appears before the men in the Army of the United States. appropriate subcommittee of the Com- Think of that, notwithstanding the mittee on Armed Servic s O ome ,000 men in this fiscal year. CIA doing everything it possibly can to That was done under the leadership of defeat this resolution-a resolution the distinguished junior Senator from which is intended to safeguard them Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 5418 Approved For 1WWsRWWMM4 # QD84-80MIM00100110002-6 April 11 have to have the highest possible clear- ance. I should like to ask the Senator from Georgia if In the meetings, having to do with the CIA, which Mr. Allen Dul- les and his assistants have with the mem- bers of the Armed Services,Subcommit- tee and with members of the Appropria- tions Subcommittee, staff members are absent and only Members of the Senate are In attendance. Mr. RUSSELL. I shall answer the question of the Senator from Montana with a "no," even though he would not permit me to ask a question a moment ago. I have had one staff member present during the course of the hear- ings. I have had one staff member present, and only one, who has been with the committee since I have been a member of the committee. I have not brought in other staff members of the committee, even though I have full con- fidence in them, because I see no neces- sity for it, just as I see no necessity for an appropriation of $150,000 for a new staff which It is proposed to create. The Senator from Montana has said the Armed Services Committee knows nothing about the agency, and that the Appropriations Committee knows noth- ing about it. Before the debate Is con- cluded, the Senator from Arizona [Mr. HAYDzNI will state that officials of the agency come before the Approprrations Committee, and the committee members know as much about how the agency spends its money as they know in the case of many other agencies. Mr. MANSF IEL,D. I thank the Sen- ator, and apologize to him for not hay- Ing yielded when he asked me to. Mr. RUSSELL. I certainly intended no criticism of the Senator for not yield- ing to me. I know how It is when the Senator Is in the course of making his remarks, which he has outlined in his mind. I would not have Interrupted the Senator, who was making a very elo- quent speech, if I had not wanted to call something to his attention, which I have forgotten now. I hope my Interruption did not have the effect of annoying the Senator. Mr. MANSFIELD. No, indeed. Mr. SYMINGTON. Mr. President, will the Senator yield? Mr. MANSFIELD. I yield. Mr. SYMINGTON. I agree with much of the remarks of the distinguished Sen- ator regarding the encroachment of the executive on the legislative branch of Government. I am sure the Senator knows, in Illustrations he gave with re- spect to the Military Establishment, what my feelings are In those matters. But we have a fine subcommittee of the Armed Services Committee handling the CIA from the standpoint of Senate legislative analysis and determination. 1 think that committee as capable a committee- and I believe the distinguished Senator from Montana would agree--as could be obtained in the Senate. Mr. MANSFIELD. I certainly would agree with the Senator. It is a good committee. Mr. SYMINGTON. If he believes the committee has been remiss in its han- dling of the CIA, which Is a function of the Senate Armed Services Committee, I shall be very glad to cooperate with my distinguished friend from Montana In any suggestions he may care to make. . Mr. MANSFIELD. I may say to my good friend, the Senator from Missouri, that the one thing he could do to put into effect his offer Is to vote for the resolution, because what the resolution proposes to do is to bring the subcom- mittees together. It would not break the continuity they now have with the CIA. The same persons would be in- volved, but there would be a standing joint committee, with a small staff, with the highest possible clearance. This committee could furnish an outlet for both the Congress and the CIA. I think this is the beat way to handle the matter. Certainly. I have never advocated that we should exercise undue oversight over the CIA, because I recognize the need for a certain amount of secrecy. I have not even advocated open sessions of the joint committee, if it should be created. be- cause the occasions would be rare when such an instance would arise. Had there been a joint committee at the time the CIA headquarters fight was on, perhaps something could have been done; but otherwise there is no reason I can we why any of the meetings should be open. There is no reason for anyone to sus- pect or be suspicious that the sponsors of the resolution want to pry into the secrets of the CIA; but.I say to my col- leagues that the Senate and the House- the Congress of the United States-have the right, under our system of checks and balances, to exercise some degree of control, not through subcommittees which meet occasionally, but through a regular standing joint committee. I, for one, feel that Members of Congress can be trusted as well as can a group 'of pri- vate citizens who may occasionally be given such Information as the Agency wants to put before them. I think Mem- bers of the Congress can be trusted Just as much as can the members of the Na- tional Security Council. Certainly I have every faith in the men and women with whom I am associated In the Con- gress; and I would say that insofar as the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy is concerned, it has exercised a high de- gree of discretion during the many years it has been in operation. The distinguished Junior Senator from Kentucky [Mr. BARKLLYI, foimerly Vice President of the United States, told the Senate about his contacts with the Na- tional Security Council while he was Vice President, and he referred to Lien. Walter Bedell Smith. I should like to inform the Members of the Senate that, so far as I know, Walter Bedell Smith Is in favor of a meusui a of this kind, and I believe he has so stated on a num- ber of occasions. I believe that any right-thinking Director of the CIA would welcome such a group, if for no other reason than the agency's security and its protection from unjustified attacks by Individuals or groups. . Mr. President. there are other things I should like to discuss. The PRFSIDINO OFFICER. The time of the Senator from Montana has expired. Mr. RUS ELd,. Mr. President, I am glad to yield to the Senator from Mon- lana as much further time as he may desire to have. Mr. MANSFIELD. I should like to have 10 more minutes. Mr. RUSSELL Mr. President, I yield an additional 10 minutes to the Senator from Montana. The PRIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Montana is recognized for 10 minutes more. Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, to- day our attention has been called to the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy and its application to the pending proposal. Let me point out that at the bottom of page 12 of the report of the Committee on Rules and Adminisration in regard to Senate Concurrent Resolution 2, we find the following recommendation-one of the recommendations of the Hoover Commission: alcoi ( rNnatrow (a) That the President appoint a com- mittee of experienced private citizens, who shall have the responsibility to examine and report to him periodically on the work of Government foreign intelligence activities. This oomi suttee should also give such. In- formation to the public as the President may direct. The Commission should func- tion on a part-time and per diem basis. The second part of the recornmenda- tion of the Hoover Commission is the Important one: (b) That the Congress consider creating a joint congressional committee on foreign Intelligence. similar to the Joint Committee on Atomic Lnergy. In such case, the two committees, one Presidential and the other congressional, should collaborate on matters of special importance to the national security. What did the President do? He ap- pointed a group of private citizens, but he took a stand against the creation of a joint committee; and, according to the newspapers, he said that the CIA was too sensitive for Congress to take up. Mr. President, who does the President of the United States think the Members of Congress are? In our own way, we have Just as much responsibility as he does; and I. for one, intend to do every- thing I possibly can to see to it that the powers given to Congress by the Consti- tution are retained by the Congress, and are not whittled down or taken away, and are not willingly given up. I think the Congress is in danger, and we should recognize that fact I should also like to bring to the atten- tion of the Senate the fact that I hold In my hand a letter from Mr. Clarence Francis, chairman of the Committee for the Hoover Report. He was a member of the Hoover Commission when it was in operation. In speaking for the Com- mittee for the Hoover Report, he comes out In wholehearted support of Senate Concurrent Resolution 2. Let me point out that two Members of the Senate were members of the Hoover Commission-the Senator from New Hampshire [Mr. Bsloezal and the Senator from Arkansas (Mr. McCi.ri.- LAlel. According to Information given to me by the Senator from New Hamp- shire, they went on record, during the Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 Approved F?Wq ~ 6bz/0'1 c f h ' f U Ti i R000100110002-6 5119 Inc twhen the Commission was in ex- isteni?e, as being opposed to the creation of a civilian commission, and as being in favor of the establishment of a joint congressional committee. Those two Senators were our representatives on the Hoover Commission; and that was their recommendation, as I understand. Instead of having this matter handled by the two subcommittees to which ref- erence has been made-which meet oc- casionally, but are not vitally and solely interested in the CIA, for they have many other duties-I certainly believe that a regular, standing joint committee of the Senate and the House of Repre- sentatives should be established to look after the interests of the Congress and also to look after the interests of the people of the United States In this field. I trust those with whom I am associated in the House and the Senate; I trust them, regardless of whether they be Republicans or Democrats. Certainly we as a body are entitled to as much consideration as are members of the National Security Council or members of a private commission or members of any other group. After all, the Congress has the ultimate responsi- bility. Congress has the obligation of appropriating the moneys used in the Government service. Congress creates the various agencies, but then sits back and lets the Executive take over as much control as It desires to have. Mr. Pres- ident, I think it is about time for the Senate to wake up. Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, will the Senator from Montana yield to me? Mr. MANSFIELD. I yield. Mr. RUSSELL. I do not wish to pro- long the debate, but certainly I do not like to have the Senator from Montana leave me in the position of seemingly wishing to surrender any of the powers of _the Congress. What I am trying to have the Con- gress do Is keep where they are now, in the Armed Services Committee and the Appropriations Committee, the powers which the Senator from Montana pro- poses to take from those committees and lodge in the proposed joint committee. I know of nothing such a joint commit- tee could do that the Armed Services Committee and the Appropriations Com- mittee cannot do. The Senator from Montana referred to the Marine Corps fiasco in the execu- tive branch of the government. To the very best of my ability, I have fought to obtain the appropriations for the Ma- rine Corps. I have expressed my griev- ous and distinct disapproval of the action of the executive branch in not expend- ing those appropriations for the purpose for which they were made by Congress. I have undertaken to-well, Mr. Presi- dent, I do not like to use a strong word, but I have made it perfectly clear to the Secretary of Defense and to the Joint Chiefs of Staff that I think they have gone directly counter to the clear Intent of the Congress. Of course, they added insult to injury by submitting budget estimates by means of which they under- took to have the money we appropriated for the Marine Corps used by the Office of the Secretary of Defense and by other civilian agencies. On yesterday after- noon I had the privilege, in the Appro- priations Committee, of making a motion to strike out that language, so as at least to show that we do not propose to stand by and have insult added to injury. But I must confess that I do not ex- actly see the relationship between the Marine Corps Incident-much as I de- plore it and much as I condemn it-and the efforts which are being made to re- move these powers of supervision from the committees which now have them. Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, I wish to say again-I have already said It many times-that the Marines have never had a better friend than the dis- tinguished Senator from Georgia [Mr. RUSSI LL), the chairman of the Armed Services Committee. That is a well known and an established fact: and I know he was the one who was primarily responsible, behind the actions of the distinguished Senator from Missouri (Mr. SYMINCTON I. last year, In bringing about a restoration of the $40 million which Mr. Wilson, the Secretary of De- fense, acting for the President, impound- ed, and later used in part for other pur- poses In the office of the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of the Navy, and a few other of the agencies under his jurisdiction. So I am delighted that the distinguished Senator from Georgia did what he did on yesterday. I only hope that he will see to It that if these moneys are not used for the Marine Corps, as they should be, they will be returned to the general Treasury and will not be used for other purposes. Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, if the Senator from Montana will indulge me, let me say that I think the funds should be reappropriated, so as again to have the Congress go on record regarding Its de- sire to have the money used for the Ma- rine Corps, and so as again to show that the present Department of Defense, act- ing under the Chief Executive, has been clearly flouting its responsibility to act In accordance with the directives of the Congress, which has the responsibility of raising and maintaining armies for the defense of the United States. Mr. MANSFIELD. Am I to under- stand from what the distinguished Sen- ator says that If he has. his way this money is to be used by the Marine Corps for the purposes intended? Mr. RUSSELL. We shall have to re- appropriate It, but I shall certainly make every effort, when the defense bill comes before the Senate, to see that it is re- appropriated for the Marine Corps. Mr. MANSFIELD. I thank the Sen- ator. Referring to the second part of the Senator's question, I did not say that the Marine Corps matter, the 70-group 'Air Force matter, or the matter of execu- tive agreements was directly connected with the CIA. However, I tried to indi- cate that indirectly, through the years, both during Democratic and Republi- can administrations, there has been a tendency on the part of the Executive to assume our responsibility, and to get away from the idea of coequality, as Provided by the Constitution. I cer- tainly did not mean to imply any per- sonal responsibility on the part of the distinguished Senator from Georgia, whom I recognize as one of the great con- stitutional lawyers of this body. I tried to indicate that that was being done will- ingly, so far as the Congress as a whole was concerned, because we are not fight- ing the tendency to shift power away from us. Mr. RUSSELL. So far as the Senator from Georgia is concerned, he will con- demn such a trend at every opportu- nity. I know of no other way to fight it. I regret that there are not more Mem- ber of Congress who feel as does the Senator from Montana, who has ex- pressed himself so forcefully. Mr. MANSFIELD. I thank the Sena- tor from Georgia. Mr. SALTONSTALL. Mr. President, I yield 10 minutes in oppositon to the dis- tinguished Senator from Idaho (Mr. DwORSHAK 1. Mr. DWORSHAIL Mr. President, I have listened to the debate this after- noon with a great deal of interest. I have been undecided as to whether I would vote for or against the concur- rent resolution. I have profound respect for my col- league, the junior Senator from Georgia I Mr. RUSSILL 1, with whom I serve as a member of the Appropriations Commit- tee; and likewise for the distinguished chairman of the Appropriations Com- mittee, the senior Senator from Arizona [Mr. HAYDiJIl, Logically there Is much truth in what has been said, to the effect that there is little justification for the creation of an- other joint committee. We have an ade- quate number of standing committees now, if they function effectively and dis- charge their duties as they should. It is true, as the Senator from Georgia pointed out, that probably we now have access to information, data, and records of the Central Intelligence Agency through the Armed Services Committee, of which he is the chairman, and likewise through the Appropriations Committee. I have had some experiences In this connection during the past year. A year ago I was assigned to membership on the subcommittee on Defense Appropria- tions. For a long time I had had certain misgivings and uncertainty with respect to the operations of the CIA. I was very eager to find out something about the CIA, because it Is a very vital and Im- portant agency In the executive depart- menu of the Government, When the director of the CIA ap- peared before the Senate appropriations subcommittee, I was so naive as to think that, as a member of the committee, and a Member of the Senate. I might be en- titled to some information. I ventured to ask certain questions of the director. I was told very emphatic- ally "This information Is classified." In- formation as to the number of personnel is classified, whether there are 1,000, 10,- 000, or 20,000 employees and officials working for CIA. Oh, Mr. President, that is highly classified Information! Then when r directed questions to the 'director about the amount of money re- quired to operate the CIA, I was again told, quite forthrightly, "This is classified Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 All the tune since k Allen Dilles has regretted that'he didnot.'go , that=;_ineeting. intelligence ?taan, Mr. Ailles earn i of the conspiracy to ae autn Der. F1ahrer, Adolph.}iitler, that.:w; a o July~2J 1 ii .: tried x .A, with mi.t,ht Wand main to "get his ssu std ~r to giyr m` upportf t b! F enterprise. ^ The plot -failed, 114t `~r. J).iiles d . l succeed ~ n .av ng a German whom he had personal.y 1 oaraged to ~ ?t outF.of. Zierna N with forged paDere and an ide,.ttflcation zing, 11 supply d b Mr. Iklles. t ex5 ; ~3~ "But it was in Bern too to 'SwttLerland:thait Mr. ;Duillee "ee'r+ e as. representative during World' War 1, - f :tt.e Office o' Strategic, cervices The place wss er6i1e isw h ; pie,a,?; undercover LL"isa `fits sorts. It was a tenter for Euro an .resistance. ;.ThiOugh ,an Q "Since then Mr. ifzllesr ,~llPn . D:'lles, has done a great many large things. He will. be cal 3edi ',upon: to [lei` many, man rat !i ~? ? ' `. The Senate apparent1y?.haa conf dence 4.hat he X11 do them wel . That Iwas the reason for the?v()t' on f~+ndor eieesnt.N ..:: . .,. , : ,: . . ,_. , . _...:.... ,.. .: .::. a. _ .._ 5...em3ns~~ . :, ......:e,x?'~.?^~.ns:~ ,aK : x.:m^. .~ : ? .. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R0001 00110002-6 BEST COPY Available THROUGHOUT FOLDER Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 ANK V Z ]Jbb Approved For Release 2002/01/24 : CIA-RDP84-0 'CIA WATCHDOG . PLAN KILLED ,Senate Defeats Proposal For Check On Activities Washington, April 11 0'1- 'I he Senate, after much talk abiott whether Congress can keep is se cret, today killed a plan to set uP' a Senate-House committee to keep tabs on the supersecret Central Intelligence Agency. The proposal. defeated on Al 59.27 vote, was strongly oppit e(I by President Eisenhower. who let it be known he feels CIA's ail vi ties are too sensitive for such congressional supervision. Congress does look into. CIA J ;affairs through exi-ting commit- ;tees, however. and this was one argument used by opponents of, the defeated proposal. Supporters contended Congress lacks an adequate check on CIA, despite secret briefings of key members. Sponsored By Mansfield Veteran Senate Democrats joined Republican leaders in turn-l Ing back the resolution, which) would have ncnfed the approval of the Senate end I?ouse but not the President's signature. It would have created a twelve mem- ber group. s:-: from each branch. Tbt joint tnnunntcc plan was sponsored .)/ Sena or Mansfield (D., Mort.), and 31, other sena- tors. Scurf of tlue cosponsors turned ?gainst the proposal dur- ing the(' debate, however. One if them. Senator Frun(is Case ;ft., S.D.t, said he wax swayer by the argument that se- cret I' :ormatlon would be avail- able the proposed committee and #~%ht leak out. F,. f9rie Disillusionment" Se*tA$~rr Russell 'D., (ia.), a le.r?tnit topponent, bald his "one "d,iilus?~nment" about the Senate r,hf~l~ elilssitied material leaked to the prasa from secret commit- -tee sessit rs. Mansflt:4 countered with an argument that both former Presi dent lloovrr and Walter Bedell Smith, retired general and firmer CIA director, had urged estatr- lishment of a congressional watch- 1\'Js ', V ho told the Senate III -tad I.o lit} i00 pages of do- ?t manta' on of incompetency, to. elliei, ncy. waste and Communist infiltration in the CIA" }lolling up a thick hatch of T'aper'. he said, "1 in not going to Introduce I Before the vote, Senator Knmc.l thl" into the record because it' land (Cal.), minority con', ay involve security information leader, said the President belles ed Tsui it this committee is let up. creation of the joint comniitic, 11 will tun. this Information over would "Jeopardize" United Stale- ;to it munedlately." intelligence services abroad 11e Knowland told McCarthy tnat I said Eisenhower felt CIA I'.hash the Armed Services or At)- too sensitive for clo`" I ,w-,)rial1oils committees were In ^.hecking by Congress. a lu?It ton to go Into the matter Knowland got into a hassle vars.. Ni!)- if ?McCarthy would ,with . Senator McCarthy 'ittll.i, ir,,- .?.aterial over to them, NTL Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 APR -16 9 Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 CENTRAL INTI _LIGF."NCF; AG1,NCY- DOC'UMi.NIS FURN1. HED BY SEN- ATOn t'IvCARTHY Mr. Mi CAPTIIY Mr, President. I wl lr to e;ivr the ;senate some informa- tion. A few d a`be when the Senate was consider in the CIA Joint resolution I stated thflt if the resolution were passed I would Lui n over to the proposed new .joint conlrniLi.ce Some 50 or mere docu- ments havinv: to !o with everythinc from inconlpctf n^e to conrnninirm in the CIA. The resolution failed, anti the joint corn- mittee was nit established. The question arose as to whether the Information shrrild uo to the Armed Services C' mmittee, headed by the Sen- ator from C;corcia ! Mr Ri -`,Err i, to the Permanent Investilatin: Sulx'omrnittee of the Committee on Government Op- erations, Leaded by the senator from Arkansas I Mr. MCULFLI.AN 1, nr to the In- ternal Security Subcommittee of the Committee on the Judiciary. I felt that the Internal S'curity Subcommittee had the most complete jurisdiction of the subject. so I have turned over the docu- ments. as of today, to the subcommittee of the Senator from Missi^Siipi IMr. I'ASTtiANOI_ not because I preferred that Subcommittee to the other committee but because I thought that it had unques- tional jurisdiction on the suhiect I know they will h::ve diilicu1t c vtting the A, itnn":[.n's from the CIA. '11) t refused to app: ar before hnr corn n;ttf e. How- ever. I tripe that we will 5 ,1 on the Sezw+ e fl ror the rioLL of the 1:'.Scrnal Se- cut'lty Sti n: ninrn'.ttee tO ret tlhe' iii` ce.srary inforn:,t;e rr F' r that, rYrison ?,,,j t rr ed W, el rill ttf Nei rcut material R `t9 `r i ili~rij eoftif1tft$ . Approved For Release 2002104 4 -RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 ~ XUKsES APR 17 1956 Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 Bills That Died Consume Half of Senate's" Time WASHINGTON. March 16 l3Yl-The Senate has spent about half of its time this year in debating bills that never be- came law. The first big breath-waster was the natural gas bill, which came before the Senate Jan. 16 and was approved Feb. 6. Three weeks of words went down the drain when Presi- dent Eisenhower vetoed the measure to exempt natural gas producers from direct Federal controls. The Senate took up the farm bill on Feb. 22. The measure was passed March 19. President Eisenhower vetoed the House-Senate compromise version today and another three weeks of debate was in vain. While waiting on the final outcome of the farm bill, the Senate spent six days of de- bate on the electoral reform amendment. After several pre- liminary votes. it finally was sent back to a committee pigeonhole. Later, the Senate took up a resolution to establish a joint watchdog committee for the Central Intelligence Agency. It Was defeated after three days of debate. The time consumed on these four measures adds up to al- most two months. The Senate has beetr in session less than four months. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 NOV 18 1956 Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-001 NEW YORK POST Circ.: e. 399,886 S. 265,066 ~ Front 94& online r~ , Path Paso Peso By Robert S. Allen Washington, Nov. 17-The Central Intelligence Agency another c ideal scrutiny at the coming session of Congress. The backstage plan is again to try to set up a special rnmmitter with watchdog authority Over CIA, as the Joint Atomic Committee has over !llP Atomic Energy Commission. Such legisla- tion was rejes-ted by the Senate last spring, but another Aght will be made for it next year. The bipartisan sponsors of the measure are already laying the ground for this. The war-in- fitmed cnse' in the Middle East and satellite countries sr: lnoviding them with a lot of material. There Mwa a .igruficant tip-off on these under- cover preparat-nns at the Senate Foreign Rela tions Committee . long meeting with top Admin. Istration offirta!? CIA Dtrrcfar Allen Dulles was subjected to crttlte gritlhtg on charges of falling to prockle adequate advance lnforntatlon on the British. F rench-Israel asaauk In Egypt, and the Poiish and Hungsrlaw revolts against Russian rule. These blasts at CIA are nothing new. The In- telligernr Agency has long been under fire by both Repubti,ans and Democrats on complaints of incompete -ce and bungling. The significance of this barrage is that it was ob%inusiv for the purpose of providing ammunition for the coming legislative battle ThU intentloo was not lohl on Dulle.. He de- fended himself and his agency vigorous!._ Sen. Mansfield, (Montt.). slated to be the Dent ocrats' new Assistant Floor Leader, wasted r.o breath In bluntly putt.ng Dulles on the spot. "Why were we caught napping on what hap- Dened In the Middle Least. Poland and Hungary!" demanded Manstleld, "Why Is our Intelligence al Nays so inadequate; so poor, or totally misaing!" A categoric denial of all these accusations ik as made by Dulles. "Our Intelligence concerning the attack on ~=gypt was excellent," he retorted. "A full report warning that Israel was preparing a major attwc>k agatast Egypt was placed as President Elsett? definitely headed Rosser'% desk more than E4 hours before the event occurred. That report also forecast the Skee thood that Britain and France would aid Israel once the fighting broke out." Tuns brought an exclamation of Sen. Fuibright (D., Ark.). played so much astonishment when his pro" sec- retary handed him a news dispatch about this at- tack?" asked Fuibright. "I have a press teport In my hand quoting Hagerty as stating the President got his first tcord of this attack from a press dis? patrh." "I tx'lieve YOU will find that what Hagerty actually saol, pointed out Dulles, "was that the Pre.ider,t was informed of the attack when he resit the press report. That is quite different trim hr,t l r wing about It. The President did k nos about it in advance." That drew a challenge from Man-tou t. s smother ante by the Montanan. "then why didn't he act; why didn't he do something to avert this dangerous co nflicl? "That'% a question s hk-h should be directed to other officials," declared Dulles, "I anal oon- rerned with intelllgence. My job Lq to gather In- formation, evaluate it and to report It W'h, t Is j, dune ahem( it is oulside of my jurisdiction." Dulles alto asserted the CIA had submitted rumerons teports on unrest in the satellites and the like;,huod of uprisings. "It is difficult to forecast the exact timing of so, h revolts," he pointed out. "You can never tell Just what will touch them off. But we ded. nitely knew- they were in the making, and also that the Kremlin would react as ruthlessly as It did !n Hungary, and may yet do In Poland." Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 NEW. YORK MMES q Approved For Release d2//Y/2l IA-RDP84-00161 R0001 0 STATINTL MANSFIELD CALLS Council "and all our intelligence'its retention (,f control of both arms have been delinquent." 1houses of Congress. Mr. INTELLIGENCE LAX. a Mansfield, a member of) In a letter to members m the the Senate Foreign Relations Democratic National Commit- Committee, Is slated to he theltee's Executive Committee, (Democratic whip. Senator Humphrey said that Presses i'. N. Action I"instead of letting the Republi-. C.I.A. Branded Delinquent' cans seize all the limelight with, in Its Reports on Poland, Ile said he thought there had beep "a great deal of biparti- (Presidential] inauguration fes- HUn a and Mideast sanshl in torsi n policy, butltivitles in January, why can't ry declared that the , DemocratsiDemocratic victory celebration sar>rl Wme vew tat ruon should be in on the "take-offs (here near the year end' WASHINGTON, Nov. 18- rather than the crash-landings,' "We have an impressive case He said he thought the world to present to the American peo- Senator Mike Afarisfield indi-shad avoided nar "thanks to ac- Ple on Democratic gains and rated today that he might renewition of the United NRtion'..?? lie such an event would focus pub- his drive for. a joint Con- praised the United Nations ac-lie attention on that story." gressional committee to super. tion in sending a Tx)lice force to Senator Humphrey suggested vise the Central Intelligence Egypt and said that it should that the national committee and. gency. remain "until the question 1s the Senate and House Demo-, The Montana pemocrat said settled " cratic Campaign Committees that United States intelligence Mr. Mansfield said that he sponsor the ball. Democratic agencies had beet "delinquent" would favor subsidizing ship- governors should be Invited to in reporting on the outbreak of menu of oil to Western Europe lead delegations from their troubles abroad. If necessary to replace ship- states and "join in showing the "We were caught .short," he'ments cut off ac a result of the country the great potential of said. "We were caught by sur- blocking of the Suez Canal. He future leadership in Douro- prise in Poland, caught by sur- said such action would he far~cratic ranks." he said. prise in Hungary, caught by better "than to see the Soviet surprise in the Middle East." 1Union come in and take it Answering questions on the [Western Europe] over lock,! American Broadcasting Com. stock and barrel." pany's television program "Col- Meanwhile, Senator Hubert H. lege Press Conference," he ex- Humphrey of Minnesota pro- pressed the opinion that the posed that the Democratic party C. I. A. the National Security hold a victory ball to celebrate Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 -------- roved-For Release 2*002/01//24 CIAT?QP84-00161R0001 CHICAGO SUN-TIMES Circ.: d. 564,829 S. 550,165 Front Edit rage Fag. Ott'., page CIA Faces Fresh Intelligence Test .4pe`rtiTe~f rdTht!'3fln-T1ma WASHINGTON-The Cen- tral Intelligence Agency is headed for . another critical scrutiny at the coming session of Congress. The plan is to try again to set up a special committee with watchdog authority over CIA. as the Joint Atomic Committee has over the Atomic Energy Commission. Such legislation was rejected by the Senate last spring. The bipartisan sponsors of the measure are already pre- paring for the inquiry. The crises in the Middle East and Soviet satellite countries are providing them with material. Ape. Dulles Qvibmed There was a significant tipoff on the undercover preparations at the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's meeting with top administrative officials. MA Director Allen W. was subjected to critical ques. boning on charges of falling to provide adequate advance In- , formation on the British- the latest barrage is that it was That brought an exclamation coming." demanded the Mon- obvious for the purpose of pro- of surprise from Sen. J. William tartan, "then why didn't he act? viding ammunition for the com- Fulbright (D-Ark.). Why didn't he do something to l ing legislative battle. "Then how did it happen the avert this dangerous conflict?" i Sen. Mike Mansfield (Mont.), President displayed so much as- -''That's a question which! slated to be the Democrats' as- tonishment when his press secre- should be directed to other offi- t sistant floor leader, bluntly put tary handed him a news dis- cials," declared Dulles. "I am Dulles on the spot. patch about this attack?" asked concerned with intelligence. My; "Why were we caught nap- Fulbright. "I have a press re- job is to gather information, I ping on what happened in the port in my hand quoting Hag- evaluate it and to report it.j Middle East, Poland and Hun-,erty [James C.) as stating the What is done about it is out-; gary?" demanded Mansfield. President got his first word of side of my jurisdiction." "Why Is our intelligence always this attack from a press dis- Dulles also asserted the CIA' so inadequate; so poor, or total-I patch." had submitted numerous re-' ly missing?" "I believe you will find that ports o. unrest in the satellites" Dulles retorted. "Our intelli- what Hagerty actually said," said the Hkelhood of uprisings.; gence concerning the attack on said Dulles, "was that the Pres6 Egypt was excellent. A full re- port warning that Israel was pre- paring a major attack against Egypt was placed on President Eisenhower's desk more than 24 hours before the event occurred. That report also forecast the likelihood that Britain and France would aid Israel once the fighting broke out." I French-Israeli assaults in Egypt. and the Polish and Hungarian revolts against Russian rule. The Intelligence Agency long . has been under fire by both Republican and Democrats on complaints of incompetence and bungling. Significance o;. dent was informed of the attack when he read the press report. That is quite different from first knowing about it. The President did know about It in advance." Why Dtda't Fresideat Act? That drew a challenge from another angle by Mansfield. "If he knew an attack was Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R0001 00110002-6 I NTL Circ.: m. 207,271 NOV 2 1 Mb 20Q2f01124 ? CIA-RDP84-00161R 5' AkRorgOad Fortt:Ig, , d In er ere oo Ti ti. , secret work. crony/ Edit Ode. The intelligence estin,,,te n r?Qe rese rose the action in Egypt did no: name the time when the .Is- Date: 'sault would begin except that it would be in the near future. I t hus, when President L? isen- per recently said that by ,. :. td learned of the attack only CiWarning ? through the press, intelligence 1epo the ouseb on were the in imminence ofWhite' r oc:u of Mid-East H the attack. Attack Bared I It Is said that there is no discrepancy cy between these two acts, and that it was By RICHARD WILSON perfectly true that President chief of cite M1aaMpo11s Ttlbana Eisenhower had received nu waskinsm lareau . information from the British,! WASHINGTON A OOntro-I French or Israelis on their intentions, and only got the' the versy is Eisenhower' developing adtnheeeiaiatra on I1definite news from the press. - bon's awareness of and treadi-, THIS FITS the previous pie nets for intetnitjonal Cttises ? Lure of an administration Was the tlnittt!d $ptbes which had been deliber-itelv y caught unready and off guard: Fre metnedch who, the from m Oct. and , on- by the Middle East crisis in a ward, kept their allies igno- less disastrous version of the' rant of their plans. Pearl Harbor surprise of 1941? T h e answer thus far is The point now made I s that the central intelligence agency .that the central intelligence. was, without British , and, agency (CIA) did, in fact, ad-,French co-operation, ahle t,.; vise the White House 24 hours ; determine somewhat in ad- in advance of the Imminence1c.ance the action these coun- of the Israeli, British and. tries and Israel were about to French assault on Egypt. take. THE GOVERNMENT'S top Submission of such esti- intelligence agency also ad-I mates, which amount to exact vised the White House of the evaluations and predictions, unrest in Hungary, but it was is a relatively new f.lnction not able to forecast the course 1for the central intellwence of events and the repression 1agency. These estimates have imposed by the Soviet Union. been going before the national Congressional leaders have security council for : ?,mething ,been informed of these ad- river four years and were first: vane Intelligence estimates, introduced by Gen. Walter; but th ey are not completely Bedell Smith. satisfied. PRIOR to that time it h.-id bons commit- ese ddevelopments. t charges that It Under Allen Dulles, the CIA jtii, intelligence lhas advanced even further; Bite foreign re Invents, but not to evaluates f h fluential mem- #'r the state depart?rrent and the' r of the sea White H o u s e of develop- Mansfield ' (P. - moos intelligence agencies to! Ivance information. He de-Jto predictions of probable WU/O!Q ..w w ,, l,141L LJU11eS anti 1no having ad- this top staff tie thrmselves' watchdog committee. for the In the present case, they, intelligence agencies, were r i g h t i n e a t u;r t, 11 c CENTRAL Intelligence Israel's intention to attack in agency Is fighting such con- the Sinai desert rathc r thin tgressional supervision, but has in Jordan. But it is not dis- ~welcomed a study of its work closed in what cases CIA has on the; Egyptian and Hun- been wrong. aarian crisis by M.insfield' or Nor is the a,;ency itself in a other members of the foreign position to rep c.,; v l ;, !,,; ; relations committee. CIA will 11,..- ';_k# .,.. ...I-. _ .......- STATINTL. of - r~N I acv a na~cvcp 4;;~MN +~t+l'ti~ 4 `Tl h; IY~~ `-rwr u-r-vv 1W I rwvv I VV I 1 vvvc-v Members of any s nary sort' of its ope:.ail? s. committee on the ?n'wrd that ~. ----------- Nov 2 1956 C'v'IUENCE (R.I.) JOURNA. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R0001 001 C c.: m. 53,259 5. 181,704 Horst Ui' ot:h.r Pig. Pago Page Date: U.S. intelligence Unit Gave 'Mideast Ti off BV FREDERIC W, COU-fl Jaur.M-a~1Nfb {iwhlnct Srsas 1Va'hington - Controversy on the question whether the United States knew early enough and r.;lly enough what was boiling up in the Middle East and East- ern Europe this fall is almost -ortain to develop when Con- i ass begins to come back to fife. hours in advance that there would be British and French in- tervention in Egypt. It provided & forecast to the government long in advance that something was ripening in Ilu'i- The Central:--Intelligence Agency did inform the White Clouse 24 hours in advance that Israel was about to attack and .pinpointed Egypt as the target despite efforts to misdirect CIA's .attention toward Jordan. it did give an estimate- 24 24 hours in ad', ante be.::ga,, Others ale 1w4ty at did not furnish a f' of the 'iuience of the Soviet re- action in Ilungary. The intelligence activity with respect to the Israel-attack and the British and French inter sention in Egypt was carried out under somewhat unusual conditions, in that friendly countries were involved with whom this government ordinar- tpossible to lay down with an) I accuracy. What the government %+ri told at the highest levels in a long series of meetings was thati a process of spontaneous com-I bustion was going on and th.,t a flarcup was going to occuir.~ In Poland, there had been the spectacular advance notice 41, en by the Ponzan riots. In Hint gary, it was perhaps imp -"ible to tell until the last inotacit when underlying hatreds of tile, Russians would break through', the surface. When it came its came with the sparking of :nn, ily has a satisfactory exchange of information. In this case, Inc United States was not informed b> the partici- pants. Instead. there was for seeks what is characterized as blackout. Thho weeks before ihr whole thing come out into the open. the CIA knew that the blackout was on. There are background indications, in fact, that this government acted to earn Britain. France and Israel privately well in advance of the public warnings given as the to a head t incident during a sccmulgl> peaceful demonstration. For a matter of two years orl thereabouts there has been a1 24-hour watch on in the Penta- gon in which CIA and military! intelligence officers join, cullingi out information from all over the world on prospective war, situations. This is keyed into' machinery which can reach the White House and the top of- ficials of key departiacnts at critic ca lany hour Knew British, French Intent The CIA was aware of British, and French intention to act,l Having watched preparations for, iti kiting, shipments of materiel?I and a buildup on Cyprus. It nit not limit itself to reporting "ca- pabilities," but made an esti- mate of intent. The boiling up of revolts in Poland and Hungary provided a slightly different problem. Whereas a military invasion is ,why CIA did not make a t--- ;cast on the Mideast more 'flan sion of the CIA. The CIA is a large operation in itself, i1nd a parent company for subsidiary intelligence agencies in other t'c- :partments such as state and de- fense. Senator Mansfield did not dis- close the basis for Ms charge that U.S. intelligence agencies were "delinquent" In catching on to what was happening. IIe was present at a briefing of congres- sional leaders on the whole s ib- ject of the Mideast and East- ern Europe after the eruptions occurred there. Questions are still being asked gary and Poland, although it did not fix a date or a c'fot- r ir.ge of dates for outbreak. Senator Mike 'Mansfield (D- Mont), who is likely to be the Democratic whip in the new Sen- ate, is an influential member of the foreign affairs committee, and the author of a so-far tin- successful attempt to set up a congressional "watch-dot: com- mittee" over CIA. has said "we ?ere caught short." In a panel TV show Sunday called College Press Conference. Senator Mansfield suggested strongly that he would renew his drive for congressional supersi- a relatively precise thing, any, ttidcmenf as to just when a Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 Approved For Rele 002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161R00010 WASHINGTON How Good Is U. S. Intelligence? By ROSCOE DRUMMOND== WASHINGTON. Most of the Congressional criticism of the Central Intel- ligence Agency is wide of the mark. The C. I. A. has, on balance, been doing a better job than many of its critics realize. The current attacks on the C. I. A. remind one of the famous remark of the editor of "Punch" who, In reply to a disappointed reader, agreed that "Punch" was not as good as It used to be and added: "It never was." If the critics of the C. I. A. would argue that the United States intelligence operation is not as good as it ought to be and never will be good enough, that would seem to me a. fair and useful comment-intelligence al- ways needs to be better. But to cnntend that the United States government has recently been "caught short" virtually everywhere-in Poland, in Iitlmgary, in Israel. Egypt and the Middle East-is not, to the best of my knowledge, borne out by the facts. Quite possibly some;, of the impreaalon that the American government had no ad- va qce clefts as to what was in the making In the countries came, in part, from President action not only without conauAt- ,Jng us but without Informing UL . Brit this Is far different than laying, as some on the hill have been saying, that the United States had no advance intel- ligence that any c'.tliese things were atlrrinr. That would have been a gi i vous intelligence .breakdown and my Information Flaenhower's entirely accurate statement, with respect to the Israeli-Franco-British Intervention In Egypt that we had "not been Informed." Here the President was referring to official In- formation, not to intelligence, and was stating for the record that gur NATO allies had undertaken i. major foreign policy Is: That we had at least a twenty- four-hour advance intelligence estimate that Israel was mobilis- That out'ntelligence estimates Indicated rte probability of Brit- ish and '!'.i-nch participation: That u?ti information in and around the satellite countries -showed 1thst distress and pop- ular rr:%eatmrnt against the Soviet. lwere coming to a boll, althougJ I doubt if the C. I. A. could jt.tve predicted 'whether the o,it freak would be fir,+t in Polanc, !-'Dr first in Hungary. There can be no doubt that our ?l:3Qence is weakest where It wet l I tt Invaluable to have it '.s 0%, n t - namely, inside the S'+' "e v U ni s i But any conspira- tct,'1 dictWorshtp is hard- to '. r.ck and, the Russians were =tghtly :-e r-rive under the r.,.ara. The kind of military, eeo- tioniic, riA i't'lalral information which 1? ti the public domain in a free tv-lety ;iKe the United States Is rtr?,re'd by layers of secrecy lr, .' to and is dis- rti lrcrtu-i l' tk n,;ly. Obviously % , tl e C I .. 's i r;elf !`al from 4d: Jr % ?'I i:.1 Is a s 't should Approved For Release -2002/01/24: T'.1 ?m?'lt tch^n im- ?' i r. .: I, l.'-eu t' can he a. ouild i !? ;t. WkAl; 1,g! oil waiting for some official to open his office Monday morning. Today a staff of qualified ex- perts maintains a continuous, twenty -four -lour-a-day scrutiny of every piece of information, estimate and tip from every source which reaches every in- telligence arm of the govern- ment. At whatever time of day or night it instantly refers any critical new development to a special committee for immediate appraisal. This group has direct contact with the intelligence, advisory committee which is made up of the intelligence rep, resentatives of the C. 1. A.. Army., Navy, Air Force. Joint ChlefsI of Staff, State and F. B. I. This, intelligence advisory committee is the adviser to the President i and the National Security Coun-; cil and provides them with daily intelligence information an~ ap-' praleal. One of the healthiest -things about the C. I. A. Is its attitude' of self-examination and Its' awareness that its operation, needs freshness, vigor and free- dom from smugness. One of its principal critics, Sen. Mike Mans- Mon has renewed the sug'Tt'stion that a joint Con- gressional committee "supervise" the intelligence operation. I don't see how Congress can' efficltntly "supervise" the ex-' ecutive branch of the govern- ment, but if Mr. Mansfield and other able members of Congress like him would be prepared personally to put in the time to Check the C. I. A.. inside and out, upside and down, that w~1~ql~ ? ,,s Z W8440016d R t &40110002-6 expect the C. I. A. would wel-. come it. 0 1956, N. Y. Herald Tribune Inc. ~Nll_a~E~P P1flV 2 5 1956 I NTL N4pSUifVlrff9r Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R0001 00110 Circ.: e. 705,054 5. 709,787 Front P.p. Edit Pigs WASHINGTON FRONT A Look at Intelligence Mansfield Expected to Lead Drive For Closer Supervision of Agency By ROBERT TOTIf Butfetin Washington Purvtu Washington-There Is certain to be some hue and cry when the new Congress convene for a shakedown of the American intelligence system Such outcries have ben heard before and have nCti,er amounted to much. This one promises to be mop eubstan- tial, for two reasons. First. because tn.s government was apparently e.-iught unprt. pared by the nranwntous developments if the last month in eastern Europe and vie Middle Fast, and, second, because the cut- rent demand for a close look at our hush- hush espionage activities has more formid. able backing than similar proposals ha%e ever 1tad before. The chlei spokesman for a new deal in Intelligence Is Senator ,hike Mansfield. Democrat, of Montana. Mansfield, %% ho is slated to become the majority whip in the Senate, is respect-. .ed in both parties as an alert and intelligent Senator who has not allowed partisanship to cloud hi` judgment :sod ,who has been a Consistently strong supporter of bipartisan `.foreign policy. v l; As a hard-working member of the Foreign Relations committec, in close and frequent touch with both State De- f eld is better informed on what is going r,n in the world than most of his colleagues. 'Caught by Surprise' 21 - s When he asserts, as he did recently, that "we were ` ca ht short--we were caught by surprise in Poland, caught by urprise in Hungary, caught by sw pr i'e? in the Middle Eax his words carry considerable weight. And when he say~"hat the time has come to consider creating a ' watch- deeg" congressional committee to supcr% ii . the funcl ienutg of 14 "Central Intelligence Agency, he Is apt to be llctened 10. t It may be correct to say that we were '?r,ugh: short by th l.1srac?li invasion of F;:k pi- in the sense 'hat we :'.e?rr not prepared with an effective and consistent poled In meeting that crisis. R\ztal Is not true that we were eau'ht I , n I t?_I, le\ sui'prisc+ The White House was informed eef the I-raeli m,l hili-ratio~t`almost as soon as it began, and kni w 21 1:,,u before it, was launched that the strike v is In tit a: Egypt. 'hhe White House also had 24 hours v.a: u?t:c f; :t trlligrnce sources of the Franco-British ntovr i'in ce njunriionwith the Israeli attack. It can be argued that 24 hewn'!" notice Isn't much when events of such proportion are being dealt with, but it ca:i also be argued that it is better than nothing In that connection it should be remembered that In- telligence operated under some handicap not of its own mak- ing. One of these handicaps was the breakdown of the close liaison that once existed between ourselves and our prin- cipal allies. It has been well publicised, and it is true that Britain and France did not inform this country of their in- tention to go into Egypt. Such a situation would have been unthinkable in the days when the heads of government wen' r,perating on a close personal basis, as when Roosc ell and Churchill, or even Truman and Attlee, were in power. It would also hate been expected in the not ton dis- tant past that whenever a government planned a major move eef importance to us we would get a tipoff from some neu- tral power that got wind of it. The fact is that, in the Middle Fast situation, Britain and France planned their rno\r at least two weeks in ad- vance but we got no hint of it, from them or anyone else. Contact Was Lost The onus for that lies, if it lies anywhere, not on In- telligence but on the State Department and the Executive. Our diplomacy is no longer conducted on a personal basis. It may cell be that the way we now operate is better in the lung run, that more solid foundations for peace can be laid by relying on neg otiation through the United Nations than on the personal understandings of heads of states. But our new method demonstrably involves some loss of contact Keith other governments. That is a price we may be willing to pay, but It should not be charged against Intelligence, or at least not against Intelligence alone. The intelligence problem in eastern Europe was dif- ferent from that in the Middle East. The CIA was long aware that trouble was brewir.g in PoLLsnd and Hungary and that it was only a question of time when the lid would blow off. Put it did not know when, or in which country the (lid. As a result, the Intelligence Service was unable to pro- been and the Administration was similarly unprepared to deal wtih the circumstances that did develop. There was, ..l.parentiy, no inteiligencc information on how Russia would i(act when the satellites began throwing off their shackles. In the light of hindsight than to suggest how a better re- snilt might have been achieved. Mansfield and some other nwniber, n,t Congress feel that the lault lies partly in the fart that tho CIA has beeu permitted to function as :i law unto fore nt the cor.Fressional restraints on budget, 1> rsnnn+l ind genoral operations that serve to keep most adtnimsfr;aii%c agencies in line. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 NOV 25 1956 \TINTL 1 OLEDO BLADOproved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161R000 Circ.: e. 191,016 5. 172,853 F..,', Edit Othr p.9. P.9. ?.; emoving ? -~' Agency oa rom u er Spy committees were irked ty ` Secrecy Conceals Both Good the apparent surprise of the CIA over a revolution in Co- And Bad Poi,its Of Dulles' CIA ."' ? lombia. On the other hand, the t ? ' CIA got credit for forestalling By CUEORGE ZIELKE Y a Communist shipment of arras + - -i to Guatemala in 1954, and also Sel.ds 6tsd. Bureau been credited with a role J\ } ThIGTON, Nov. 24-Some time ago th Vntr~tl ` in the overthrow of Iran's Pre- IV has W Intelligence Agency arranged coverage for it vin- fi{.-'tw, mier Mossadegh in 1953. plovees with it group hngp{talizatit,p organization. But That congressional concern nted to l.ncit' has seeped into the executive l i e wa on peop zat When the group the. petals p 1 h branch of the government was fire names of the persons covered, the CIA canceled reflected by President Eisen- the deal. bower's decision this year to OCA ,. " developments i i , establish a board of consultants rised b ur r y p s Thai in a nutshell describes the hush-hush atmosphere our- the Middle East and Europej on foreign int' i:igence activi- rounding the CIA,?set up in the There are indicatr,n h, ties to review an dreport to him defense reorganization of 1947. ever, that intelligence. repor on such activities -including tV.; must have given some :r the CIA. (By the way, iddle Er,rt ptf'I n CIA em loyees about M t SUCH A BOARD was recorrr- 1' tions, since on Sunda". tact mended by the second Hoover F'it there hos- President }'.isenhnv.,r? sin pltaita a t i o n , Commission on Organization of warning to l remier Rcn-G 1; 1()" the Government in 1955 after a coverage of Israe; against t;:king "'? , ,. commission "task force." thiouf'h a blare- Vet policy writ tul initiative" and the_ Stat, t?, . headed by Gen. Mark Clark, ten by a pri- partrncrit ;asked Asr?encar- concluded that "there is s.rll the Middle Ett the amount of in- telligewa'., take that any way you war.t - iv otsble to the armed forces a?ii gc1. iy makers of the goverrivent. Ih'srybody around the town want* rte U.S. to have a good spy syu'.n . The big ques- tion is whether (~,IA, which has grown faster and,;sore strangely than Topsy Is the :r},swer. ployes, of whom 6,200 were special agents. CIA and its short-lived prede- cessor, the CIG, have had five different directors in its eight years, Adrn. Sidney Sowers, the late Gen. Hoyt Vandenberg, Adm. Roscoe II illenkoetter, Gen. Walter (Beedle) Smith and the current spy boss, Allen Dulles. An amend- ment to the act last year requires now that if the head man is from the military, his deputy must be a civilian. CIA Reports to Security Council The agency works directly under the National Security Council, and the CIA supporters in Congress insist they, through the Appropriations and Armed Services subcommittees, get all the farts they require about its operations, including those con- cerning spending. Each week, the day before the National Security Council meets, the Intelligence Advisory Coun- cil holds a huddle to see what's new. Dulles is chairman of this council and present are represent- ative's of the FBI, Navy, Army anti Air Force intelligence, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, State De- parttne!ar,ce'! each other. STATINTL Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 pdNd O orei~ease' A2/II1/2AA-RDP84-00 1800010011000 6 But Publicity of Its Activities Would Greatly Handicap Agency in Its Super Secret Work By t-REDKRIC W. COI L1N Journal. nalIrt Washington Burnam New !security Problems Washington-The firm and wide- Na Detkils Are Asked There is a feeling .that .there spread impression that the Central ,cot committee members do and really isn't enough in CIA to keep Intelligence Agency operates on an ask for details, and It is a ques- a Joint committee occupied. But no check fneitwh attng basis with tion how the problem could be It is taken for granted that such no check on er is some- a committer, like all others in Con- But Allen did h . ey thing short o of being being completely arses it bas ta would s Q build up a accurate. Dulles g -d personal rela- We"- The CIA collects information, and tionship with tiro n, and the or- big staff. That, in Itself, would rangement re, resents consid- parse new security problems, and conducts secret activities abroad. rrable success in striking a br- for that matter, it is felt that if It would like very much to to left the m n sessional then are interested In such work, Y the impression somehow gets I- rol"M3a eon ae Na two others. around that Congress, for example, Mansfield s pr++posal for a joint . i ever, it finds Itself on the front been told in ((mhdence. secrets. CIA has relations with pages. Senator McCarthy threatens CIA's total budget (which is giv- every secret service in the free to investigate It, daimini Commu- en very close ex;in,ination in the world, 30 or 40 of them. Dulles nists have infiltrated. Director Al. )34,dget Bureau hef-n e it, requests has been told bluntly what he len W. Dulles says flatly that is go to t'songressi is not made puts knew anyway, that those relation- false. Ile and it is not intended that it ships cease the moment CIA's Sen. Mansfield (D-1lfont) wants ever will he. The total number of secrets start coming out before a to act up an 18-member joint con- its employes is hkeoise a secret..congressional investigating com- essioal committee to keep a its appropriations are concealed in mittee. check on the agency. The ]Toovof various ways in the budget. A The CIA was only indirectly commission sion on reorganization of large but unspecified portion of its volved in one such congressional th the executive branch has chosen expenditures are "unvouchered," Investigation, in connection with Gen. Mark W. Clark as head of a; meaning not accounted for In any questions clot the sera:trity of thq task force to study CIA. way, although Dulles vouchers state Department's John Patton Walebed by 4 Committees many things he is not required Davies, a career diplomat whose case still is not completely rib The agency is almost always re- to It seem. to be true that a solved. But the public hearings. !erred to as "super-secret" and corrupt diirctor could get away despite the tonly he indirect Involve- "hush-hush," and it undoubtedly with all kinds of dishonesty, at despite of CIA, "blew" two CIA qualifies for both descriptions. And least for a time. I 1 I operatives and seriously damaged ti pu o rec Is a fundamental incompatibly- There has never been an in, As Iong as es a r, e icy between publicity and much of stance in which nirmtxts of these probably will flatly refuse to sub- the work it does. mit to any congressional imestiga- ng they ever ey brafen have lion which would expose CIA'a~ More and more often lately, haw- security on subcommittees have to be bothered, but because there them. . dity for secrecy p I At t h ; alone, not because it doesn't want gain between the CIA itself could probably use right to inquire asst CIA's neces- s is not permitted to know anything Committee to Batch inc agency about what goes on at CIA. considered to he well-intentioned, ate groups keep an eye on it. These priations Committees and Armed Services Committees of both branches. As the thing works out in rrac- tice, the Appropriations subcom- mittee Is the more Interested of the, two House groups, and the Armed Services subcommittee slows the i more interest in the Senate. This arrangement means that CIA is answering, for example, W such a noteA watchdog as Itcp'. Taber, chairman of the House Ay- propriations Committee, and on t 2 Saitonstall, Arrttd Services Corr- mittee chairman, and Sen. Russell, ranking Democratic member. Allen Dulles sr.1 some of his key men are in regitlar touch with these congressntes and senators, to love au,u n K,+nJi, proposal is probably dead for this session. The CIA could probably live with such a committee, just as the Atomic Energy Commission gets along with al hint committee. Some drawbacks to such on arrange- merit, hocirN -r, arc cited. The CIA is only one of scver',t intelligence agencies in the government. The armed set-vices and the State De- partment each have their own. So the question is raised why CIA should he tingled out for scrutiny by a joint committee. The. Atomic Energy Commission is a special case, it is pooled out, tit that it Is engaged in vast business enter- "es and In sove'-al of Its ac- tivities is a government monopoly. appearing frequently before them. The House Appr'.ssstations suhoom- mittee is given a pretty good idea where CIA's nd,ney goes. Like the Senate Armed Y~r.~icra suhcommlt- tee, it Is intolt 3ed as to major pro j. eels by areas--what i$ --king in the Mtiddlr F.ty'd, Svu;h As.a, and eta on, Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R0001 00110002-6 STATINTL DEC 4 1954 DANVILLE (III.j`pproved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 COMMERCIAL-NEWS Front Page Dab: e. 34,486 S. 1,597 Edit (Other Better CIA Control' Now Sought By JAMES ROGERS Gannett News Service WASHINGTON - A new hid to establish stronger congres- asonal control over the super secret C e n t r a I Intelligence Agency will be made in the Senate next year. Revised to meet the objec- tions to a similar plan this year by such influential senators as I-everett Saltonstall (R-Mass) and Richard Russell (D-Ga), the new move is expected by its backing to have a good hance of adoption. Sen. M I k e Mansfield (D? Mont), who originated the 1954 plan and lined up a bipartisan group of 25 other senators as co-sponsors, revealed the new plan to Gannett News Service recenUy. Mansfield said that instead of proposing an entirely new Sen- ate-]louse Committee on Cen- tral intelligence as he did this year. he will introduce a bill making the four subcommit- CIA is the only f e d e r a l tees n o w dealing with CIA agency t h a t can conceal its joint committee. spending, the number of em- The Senate and House Ap- ployes it has, and virtually its prupriations and Armed Serv- entire operation frnni the 1,i,b- ices Committees e a c h have lie, the General Accounting Of- three - member subcommittees flee and every member of i:on. to w or k with CIA. These 12 gress except the 1: uml are on members ? of Congress would the CIA subcoinmiuces.. ? comprise the joint committee Mansfield and others assert ensisioned by Mansfield. that the control ezercised by Saltonstall and Russell, the these subcommittees user (1.1 senior members of the Senate Is spotty and uncoordinated. Armed Services.Committee, op? If we fall to estahii h some noised Mansfield's. plan fora' sort of permanent, continuing new Joint Committee on Cen? link between (.,ii recc and the tral Intelligence this year he- CIA, the only result sill. he cause they felt the Armed growing susplcioo," Mansfield Services a n d Appropriations said. "From that, in all likeli- subcommittees were doing an . hood, will crone sporadic in. adequate job. `vestigat)ons by carious corn- They 1-anted out that secrecy mittecs of Cungresi." is essential to the success of Mansfield !i:ds in rmn,l the CIA alid that secrecy would type of relat,,,n,h+hp that h.,; be increasingly difficult to pre- been established t.i t-.sc( n the serve if more memtiers of Con- Atomic EnerF;y fires, w e r e sopcr%ising the and the Joint agency. Committee on -,ton'a I.^crty Mansfield agrees on the im- The senator > i ,,as pi-rtance of secrecy to CIA, but shelved by the ticn ,r U .+ I 'fir a;so contends that it is Cowm.ttre t!u I. 1 .1 r , dlar.R'?ruus for the agency to :)e hea; ig bt v t.. 'i )t.dr `. A}3p`l deed"For; ,elease'2b0 '/U1/24 :CIA-RDP84-001618000100110002-6 as IL STATINTL S T I NTL Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161Fk$ 0100110002-6 JOINT CONURRLSSIONAL COMMIT- TEE: ON CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE Mr. MANSFIELD Mr. President, be- cause of the very nature of the Central Intelligence Agency, I think that it is Imperative that a Joint congressional ecmmittee be established for the pur- pose of making continued studies of the activities of the Central Intelligence Agency and pt oblems related to the gathering of intelligence affecting the national security. I feel that there should be a joint congressional commit- tee authorised, and that the CIA should. as a matter of law, keep that committee fully and currently informed with re- spect to Its aclivlties. . The need for the Central Intelligence Agency it seldom questioned any longer and I certainly am not challenging it now. What I am concerned with, how- ever,'is CIA's position of responsibility to none but the National Security Coun- cil I believe this should be changed. It Is true that Intelligence services of other major countries operate without direct e4marol of the legislatures. This is un- derstandable in a totalitarian govern- ment, such as the Soviet Union. It is even understandable in a parliamentary democracy, such as Great Britain where the entire administration is a part of and Is respontiible to Parliament. Our Corm of govel cement, however, is based on a system of cheeks and balances. If :t,i.s system gets seriously out of balance at any point the whole system is Jeop- nrdized and the %ay is opened for the erc,wth of tyranny. There has been almost no eongres- 'renal inspection of the Central Intel- i Kenee Agency since the latter's estab- i'shment in 1947. It is conceivable that is the need _ for an intelligence service had been evident In 1946, the Congres- sional Reorganisation Act of that year wL,l.tld have made provisions for congres- sional participation in the committee structure of Congress. As it is now, however, CIA is freed from practically every ordinary form of congressional check. Control of its expenditures is ex- eiiipteA from the provisions of law which pietcnt finr^.cial abuses in other Oov- ernwent agencies. Each year only a handful of Members in each House see the appropriation figures. There is no s+igular. methodical review of this Agen- cy, other than a briefing which is sup- Wied to a few Members of selected sub- committees. . I agree that an Intelligence agency n'tut maintain complete secrecy to be elYcct.ve. It clandestine sources of in- fcrmahon were inadvertently revealed, they would quickly dry up. Not only %-ouid the flow of information be cut off, out the lives of many would be seriously -i.?langered. In addition, much of the value of the Intelligence product would tie lost if It were known that we pos- e. %ed it. Secrecy or these purposes is ouv.., .sly ueccssxt 3. However, there is a profound differ- ence between an essential degree of secrecy to achieve a specific purpose and secrecy for the mere sake of secrecy. Once secrecy becomes sacrosant, it in- vites abuse. If we accept this idea of secrecy for secrecy's sake we will have no way of knowing whether we have a fine intelligence service or a very poor one. If a new committee is set up as pro- posed in this legislation, all bills, resolu- tions, and other matters in the Senate or in the House of Representatives relating primarily to the CIA, would be referred to the joint committee; and the Joint committee would, from time to tithe, make whatever reports are necessary to the Congress concerning Its relationship with the CIA. This resolution would establish a joint committee, composed of 6 Members of the Senate to be appointed by the Presi- dent of the Senate and 6 Members of the House of Representatives to be ap- pointed by the speaker of the House of Representatives, In each Instance, not more than 4 Members shall be of the name political party. The joint committee or any duly au- thorized subcommittee thereof would be authorized to hold such hearings, to sit and act at such places and- times, to re- quire, by subpena or otherwise, the at- tendance of such witnesses and the pro- duction of such books, papers, and docu- ments, to administer such oaths, to take such testimony, to procure such print- ing and binding, and make such expend- itures as it deems advisable. The com- bnittee Is, in addition, empowered to ap- point Its staff; and is authorized to utilize the services, information, facili- ties, and personnel of the departments and establishments of the Government. Mr. President, in my opinion, the CIA is in somewhat the same category as the Atomic Energy' Commission; and Just as I+ special committee, with well defined authority and powers has been created on a Joint congressional basis to oversee and supervise the Interests 'of the AEC, so I believe should a joint congressional Committee be created for the same pur- pose in connection with the CIA. I real- ize full well, because of the very nature of the duties of the CIA, there there has been no public scrutiny of Its activities. This may be necessary in this day and age, but r do believe that a joint con- kresaional committee should be created for the purpose of seeing that good management Is maintained in the CIA and also to keep a constant check on its Intelligence policies, It is well, too, that this Joint committee should be In a posi- tion to criticize any mistakes which the CIA may make. Until a committee of the kind I am proposing Is established, there will be no way of knowing what serious flaws in the Central Intelligency Agency may be covered by the curtain of secrecy in .which It is shrouded. In 1949 the Hoover Commission examined the CIA. A task force stated that- The Central Intelligence Agency has not yet achieved the desired degree of proficiency and dependability in Its estimates. Wlth- Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 Approved For c1~ ~bn70' /T24 iF(i MPB6b 000100110002-6 Jatl lt(r r)f 11, cut It, the Nati,,rlal Security Council cannot au. ,-.?ed In a.ss:essing and appraising the oh- p?cLltrs, cuntnlltments, and rtaka of the i ntird States In relation to our ? mllltar y power, with sufficient continuity of clef;nitenese to constitute a practtclsl guide to tlic Military Establishment as W the size o! our military needs. It recommended that vigorous steps be taken to improve the Central Intel- ligence Agency and Its work. The purpose of the joint congressional committee would be in a sense to safe- guard as well as to supervise the policies of the CIA. In my opinion the Con- gress should, because of the very nature of the work of the CIA, do everything in its power to protect its activities and to make It possible that the CIA, as an or- gantzation, will not lose Its effectiveness. and will be able to continue Its extremely Important work in such a manner as to warrant the necessary amount of free- dom of activity and the necessary secu- rity to perform the duties allocated to it under the law. Mr. President, If a joint committee is established. CIA officials will no longer be defenseless against criticism because their lips are sealed. They would have a congressional channel to turn to. The joint committee, in turn, could maintain the confidence of Congress and the pub- lic, without loss of security. To this end, Mr. President, I submit, on behalf of myself and the Senator from Wyoming [Mr. BARRETT]. the Senator from Maryland (Mr. BEALLI, the Sena- tor from Indiana [Mr. CAPinIARr], the Senator from New Mexico [Mr. CHAVEZ]. the Senator from New Hampshire [Mr. CorroN], the Senator from Texas [Mr. DANIELI, the Senator from Pennsylvania (Mr. Durr], the Senator from North Carolina [Mr. ERvnNI, the Senator from Vermont [Mr. FtrtNDERs], the Senator from Arkansas [ Mr. FtrLILRIGHrl, the Sen- ator from Georgia IMr. GEORGE), the senior Senator from Rhode Island [Mr. GREEN]. the senior Senator from Ala- bama I Mr. HILL], the Senator from Min- nesota (Mr. HUMPHREY], the Senator from Washington (Mr. JACKSON), the Senator from Tennessee [Mr. KESAVvn 1, the senior Senator from North Dakota IMr. LANGERI, the Senator from New York [Mr. LrumANI, the Senator from Michigan [Mr. MCNAMARAI, the Senator from Nevada (Mr. MALONEI, the senior Senator from Oregon (Mr. Moasa], the Senator from South Dakota [Mr. MUNDT]. the Senator from Montana [Mr. MURRAY], the Senator from West Vir- ginia [Mr. NEELY]. the Junior Senator from Oregon [Mr. NavgiscEa], the Junior Senator from Rhode Island [Mr. PAsTOREI, the Junior Senator from Maine (Mr. PAYNEI, the Senator from Florida IMr. SMATHERS 1. the senior Senator from Maine IMrs. SMITH1. the Junior Senator from Alabama [Mr. SPARKMAN). the Sen- ator from Idaho [Mr. WELKLRI, and the Junior Senator from North Dakota (Mr. YouNG 1, a concurrent resolution to estab- lt.h a Joint committee on Central In- telligence, and ask for Its appropriate reference. The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Concurrent resolution will be received and appropriately referred. The c? fir r n lit rc:,oltltlnn (S. Con. Res. ''2 subrn;tt?,! by Mr MANSFIELD (for himself and litho ;'.rnaturs1 was re- ferred to the Committee un Rules and Adminlsinltlnn, as f,,llotl's: Re.solvrd by the S. note (the Iloeue of Reprerenratn~cs crnncurring), That there is hereby ertahi,eh.?d s J11jnt Committee on Central ll,telllKeoce 4, be composed of 6 Members of the Srnete to be ^plwlnted by the President of the Senate. and 6 Mem- bers of the Ifouse of Representatives to be appointed by the Speaker of the House of Representatives. Of the B lnentbers W be appointed foam the Senate. 3 shall be mem- bers of the Central Inlelllgen- e Agency Comm it,-,- of the Cnnu,lttee on Apl i .,r1:1- Lions of the Senate, and 3 shall b. n semi. ra, of the Central In tellil'atlce Agency Subte,na? mittee of the Comnilttc:e In Armed Bervices of the Senate. Of the 6 members to be ap- pointed from the House of RepresentaUvue, 3 shall be members of the Central Intelli- gence Agency SIib.c. o mlttee of the Commit- tee on Appropriations of the R,,uee of Representatives, and 3 shall be me.nr.ers of the Central lntell1Fence Agrt,cy Suhcnrn- mlttee? of the Contnllttee on Armed Bervicue of the House of Representatives. Not mare than 4 mrnlt>ers appointed from either the Renate or the H-ruse ?.f Itepresentatlves shall be front the same Ix,iitical Party. Snc. 2. (M) Flat J141 1L committee shall ma) a Contlnuln,t studies of the activities of lit Central intelligence Arency and of probleul? relating to the Fathering of IntOttpr?nce J. feeling the national security and . It. e',. ordination and uttllz.tlott by the yar'tolls departments. eger clc'.. and Ilist rumentalltl, of the Government 'nie Central Inteia- gence Agency shalt keep the joint committ.o fully and currently Informed with re. .s'.t to Its actlvitlna. All hills. rrso:utloas, arJ other matters IT,, the Senate or the House ci Reprecent.ttlvee relating primarily to th' Central Intelligence Agency shall be War-ad to the joint committee. Ibl The members of the Joint cotlilrtittes who are hiemi.ers of the Senate shall from time to time report to the Senate, and ties members of the Joint committee who e: e Members of the House of Reprr..ents+',vea shall from ttine to titue report to the l.o...,e by bill or otherwise, their recommendations with respect to matters within the JurteCa. Lion of their respective Houses which ale 'l) referred to the Joint c omrntttee, or tY r , -net- wise rrt'Ithnt the Jurisdiction of tt.e Jolut committee. Sec. 3. V?tcancles In the membership of th= Joint committee shall not affect 'he pr..er of the remaining members W exrsu'v the functions of the Joint committee, and shah', be filled lit the same mariner as in the ea:r of the original acle.?tluit The joint cprrlnl'.. tee shall select . clmairnt*n and a vies ci arr. man from among its members. Sw. 4. The Joint ennunlttee, or any duty authorised subcomirltitee thereof, lit hu-'..j?. ized to hold such hearings. to sit and act a- such places and times, to require, by suh_ pens or Otherwise. the attendance of suet, witnesses and the production of such hoots, papers, And d.,curnertts, to Admtmiies'z qp h oath.,,, to take such tree irnons to pr,.ct? it -,,a printing and bin,llul;. at d t., rn.,we an h fix prilditilrea as It de'rn'.s adeis.,h,e '.he r. ?t of atenographIc Irrrles to rer r, ptlbl'o hearings shall ii i he In rxce?s ? t,e amotn t.. prescrlhed by la:v for rep?,rting the hearlrp? of standing .omm,ttl.'ee, of Lite .Sedate r.. cost of such acressex u, rep. m t cxo utl: e I a, . Ing shall IN- fixed at an equitable rate hr at Joint committee. Snc. 5. Tar j.mI it u,,:.,iItee ?,n .trr? to appoint su, h et;), n?,, .'c',,::- clans, and dlerlral '.., ? r..;;, ,' r tspli t _ nuts as I t cheerio, i i . , 'r??.,rv :.;i p.lvlbs? e TLe conunittee I. au. L,.: r.?u to .,Laic t'd services, tnforniatlon, facilities, and person- nel of the departments slid ectabltshmct.t, of the Government. Sec. 6. T?he expenses of the joint commit. tee, which shall not exceed $ per pear, shall he paid one-half from the cnntlr,g.?nt fund of the Senate and one-half from the contingent fund of the house of Representa- tives upon vouchers slgmed by the chairman. Disbursements to pay such expenses shall be made by the Secretary of the Senate out of the contingent fund of the Senate. such con. tingent fund to be reimbursed from the con. tingent fund of the house of Representatives in the amount of one-half of the disburse- ments so made. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 --------Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000 a pr found differ?en, e I)--I vie--i. CONGRESS IS ASKED 'fi 2i I l ? ent is de gr- of -eri?,N es~ o achieve a rpe'rfre pr:r pas a::,l secrr'cr' for the lucre x;ike of TO SUPERVISE C.I.A. secrecy. Once seCrc, y 1 '( 10:,?il sacrosanct. it ilivitea a.ruse. It wed accept this Idea of aecrcx ?,? fur Mansfield Cffers Resolution secrecy'a sake we will have not Iway of knowing whether we h?ivel for a Joint Committee- a fine Intelligence service or a' very poor one." Scores Super-Secrecy Until a joint committee Is tablished, the Senator ad,le,!,' "there will be no way of kno?, ing! so.cwto The New Yorrrimer. what serious flaws in the t'eutr it' WASFIINGTON. Jan. 14--Sen-, Intelligence Agency may be coy- ator Mike Mansfield Introduced, cried by the cuiain of secrecy in a resolution today to authorize' which it Is shrouded." creation of a joint Congressional Meanwhile. The agency committee to supervise sctivI- took two small steps towar,I lr:t ties of the Central Intelligence Ing the curtain of secrecy it h- Agency, always maintained in \'rarhinr:- The Montana Democrat told ton: It put up a sign reading, the Senate, in effect, that the "Central Intelligence AgPnry"; super-secret C. 1. A. WAS too outside its headquarters, an,i it super-secret try, him. Thirty-two directed its telephone ope,r,,rs co-9pom,ors of the resolution. ap? to come right out boldly anal 'ay parenily agreed. "Central Intelligence Agen,'}" The Mansfield resolution, which when somebory.ca lIs up. world have to he approved by The operators used.-to rent , rr hoth houses of Congress before discreetly, "Executive 3-611'.. i ,t could take effect, would estab-Iwhich puzzled everybody wnn l1+ah a twelve-nian committee, sea didn't take time to look it up from each house, Its jurisdiction over C. 1. A. would paralel that Co-sponsors of the bill were which the Joint. Atomic Energy Democrats: Senators Den: ,s Chavez of New Mexico, Prr Committee exercises over the Atomic Energy Commission. Daniel of Texas, Samuel J. Er in I The Committee would be charged of North Carolina, J. W. Fulhrl}; lit ,with making "continuing studies of Arkansas, Walter F. George of Georgia. Theodore Francis f;rcen o[ the agency, which would be of Rhode Island, Lister Hill of. directed to keep the committee Alabama, Hubert H Hum hr'ey "fully and currently informed" on p Its activities The committee of Minnesota, Henry M. Jackeonl would be empowered to hold jof Washington, Estes Kefauvc. of I hearings, either public or private, Tennessee, Herbert H. Lehman oft as it deemed advisable, on th,' New York, Patrick J. McNam.,r..i agency's operations, of Michigan. James F. Murray if. "As it is now * . ? c. I. A. 1 Montana, Matthew M, Neck' of freed from practically every ordl Went Virginia. Richard L. N^u- narv form of Congressional Berger of Oregon, John O. I'a-- ;ch,-ck," Senator 'Mansfield said. tore of Rhode Island, George .\ "Control of its expenditures Is Smatheis of Florida, and John .l exempted from the provisions of Sparkman of Alabama. ,L. law which prevent financial Republicans: Senators Ft ant, abuses In other government age- Barrett of Wyoming, J. air r'?r ties. Each year only a handful of Beall of Maryland, Homer F:.' members in each house see the Capehart of Indiana, Norris Crt- appropriation figures. There is no ton of New Hampshire, James 11. regular, methodical review of thi:! Duff of Pennsylvania, Ralph E. agency, other than a briefinr;F"landers of Vermont. William which Is supplied to a few mem-'Langer of North Dakota, George - ibcr% of selected sub-committees";W. Malone of Nevada, Karl E. The Senator said he agreed 'AIucdt of South Dakot?i. Fm;- that romplete ieereey of. opera-:cii,k G. Payne of Marne. Mar- tron` wait necessary. Rr??ret Chase Smith of Maine, lie,. Mors! cf t)rr'gon Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 A'' ,Lvtci< ,I1MN JAN Zd 1955 INTL A r~yed r elease- 2002/U 1 A-RDP$4-00161 R000100110002-6 Dar . eNtFo C. I. A. "WATCHDOG" atasc U.S. rAT. Orr. _ The secret eves and cars of the 'A 11 the NesThat's FittoPrint" - '"' " "" '"?" '?"" as the Central Intelligence Agency, Published Every Day In the Year by have been receiving an unusual THE NEw YORK TIMES COMPANY amount of serious attention lately. A special Presidentially appointed ARTHURH,i-YaSULZSERGER group headed by Lieut. Gen. James President and Publisher H. Doolittle (ret.) made a confiden. tial survey of certain aspects of the JULIUS OCKS ADLER C. I. A. last fall, and reported that 1st Vtce President and GeneralMenaAw the organization was doing "a credi- ORvit. E. Dayroos table job" but that some changes Vice President were needed. An entirely distinct AMosy H. BRADFORD and possibly more far-reaching in- Secretary quiry has been proceeding for some FRAVc15 A. COX time now under direction of Gen. TrrW+rrer. Mark W. Clark on behalf of the Tioover Commission. Meanwhile, -Senator Mansfield of Montana, a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, has renewed his long-standing demand for closer Congressional liaison with the C. I. A. through establishme:it of a joint committee on intelligence, somewhat comparable to the existing Joint Committee on Atomic Energy. In introducing his resolution with the support of more than thirty Senators of both parties, Senator Mansfield fully recognizes the obvious need for secrecy regarding intelligence opera- tions; but he makes the point that "once secrecy becomes sacrosanct it invites abuse," and under present + nditions the C. I. A. Is "freed from practically every form of Congres- sional check." A secret intelligence agency with so wide a field of opera- tions as the C. I. A. is inevitably an instrument tt g:,?at power; and it seems to t: thrst Congress has a broad respon obrirty. for it that should not be avouf e I Of course this is not to say that i"taile.i direction of the I C. 1. A. Pi within th? province of j Congress; tat it is to say that there I is R place 1.e, a ++nrall and highly dis- c.'eet C o-r jtr ssional body, aware of what it being on in this sensitive area, th;rt can deeply affect the for- eign reF'Jtms of the United States. Feud Lx iiore, the formation of a joint r.l gresional committee on In- tell r 4=+ge 1111 sirs should do niuch to -tt tlv t eiations between C. L A. a' 1' C ongre s and to reduce the sus-1 r t ir.r U:at the latter body inherently its 14i1- the former. As Mr. Mans- fief,t t tys. it would safeguard as well as ipervr.+c the C. I. A., and It would {.e to C. I. A. officials, now "de- .s seless against criticism because i. Ir lips are sealed," a Congressional ()A~ r:nel to which they v, uuld have it?t`t across :'-,rue years ago a 1 *i 1' e- ( "rrtntssl" i to k force rec- r t , r, Congressional "wat h- d, ':~r;?n .' H. lnr C. 1. A. Its es- t+'?4 '. +. n II in our opinion be et i r t."t '. Congrc~s and C. I. A Approved Foe` R4Iea . IA-RDl'84-00161 R000100110002-6 Wf INGTON Posr JAN 31 19 5 5 n TTMRS H rRA1_n AY I Appro U45*810fil- NTL t.5fl 5 rr'6SCI.L RTrK1T S. Vice President ;tie Wane the rditee JOIl' w e'V tYTTRMA'( . Ytre Pr,nte+it and oenersf Winer., R() FIR T H P TAtiROOK .............. . ddltertel Pass Editor TX)'~t f) M 1 TVARD. c President end Adcertutse Dm,.etee F+TRI+Y!iT B2d.I8T N .. ................... Cantributu/I ?.Itor MAT'-R)' rfldo.,iti ... ................ Circulation Direeter CEA,LE5 C. EOYtiEH .......................... . Se. reterV I!AW.` L 'RER1 ... ............ . Production Yanagw JOHN & HATT6, Presidtnt WrOP Rvt:, and reieofne% Intelligence Quotient senator Mansfield has again introduced his reso- lution for the establishment of a joint congressional committee on central intelligence, this time with the support of 32 other Senators. Initially this newspaper was skcptical of such a step, not because there is not a need for more intensive congressional scrutiny of the Central Intelligence Agency, but because of the danger that the confidential nature of a sensitive executive agency might be compro- wised. Now we are persuaded, however, that some broader congressional review would on balaflce be desirable and could be accomplished safely. Most persons In a position to have some appraisal cf CIA's work agree that the intelligence estimates have impro%ed markedly in recent years and that the undercover operations have been considerably less flamboyant - despite reports of somewhat clumsy and transparent undertakings in the Far last. But a secret intelligence operation insulated fr o:n normal checks and balances is, however neces- sary, at best a risky enterprise. No agency is so proficient, either, that it could not benefit from informed criticism. CIA is responsible to the National Security Council, It Is true; but NSC It, turn also is a vehicle of the executive department and has toe heavy responsibilities to give CIA any very comprehensive scrutiny. A joint congressional committee on the pattern of the Joint Committee on Atomic Ent would not only provide a check again,t free-.wheeling by this supersecret agency, it would also give CIA a spokesman on Capitol Bill and fcnd of McCarthy-type fishing expeditions. There are some disadvantages to such a plan, of course. One is the danger of leaks, though the concern of the committee ought to be with broad policy rather tlian with intimate details, and car( in the selection of members could avoid loading the committee with known blabbermouths. Another difficulty lies in the fact that CIA is responsible for only a part of the total intelligem.e operation; the major intelligence contributors are the military services, with CIA filling in the gips and providing top evaluation. Still another lies in the possibility that a congressional committee would be bitten by the operating bug and be tempted to interfere with the day-to-day work of CIA. But these are all difficulties which, it seems to us, could be overcome. The mera .~trship of the committee a,- provided in the reap ution already includes men from the Appr)pr itions Subcom- mittees which handle CIA's fund ; otrhaps it could he amended to provide some nor: V liaison with the military intelligence a;encici. A task force of spring. No action ought to be taken until these recommmndations are weighed. But there is good reason to think that the concept of a more informed congressional review Is practicable and that such a review would help the country improve its intelli- gence efficiency. the Hoover Corn Ap tovedcFa Rereate(2OG2/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161R000100110002-6 now is studying the CIA, and t r c cubtedly it will make some rec.-)m;r.endations .f.c r it reports this ast161RO'00100110002-6 A moved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 T0 WATCH THE WATCHDOG: 31 Senator Asks Joint Committee on C/A On Jan ia /7/ 14, Senator .tlrrtrarl J. Mansfield, of Mon- with .2 fellow Senators as colxrtrons. cf/vied a resolu- tion to create a new joint Congressional Committee on C r n f r?a 1 Intelligence, pat- terned after the Joint Com- wit!re on Atomic Eit gery. The News Leader several tir?rs has endorsed this pro- ro.sal editorially. We believe Senator 3fannftcld'a introduc- nrrr remarks, which follow, mrrif widespread consulcra- t ion. -EDITOR. Mr. Mansfield. Mr. President, because of the very nature of the ,'entral Intelligence Agency, I think that it is imperative that a joint congressional committee is established for the purpose of making continued studies of tiic activities of the Central In- tel!igence Agency and problems related to the gathering of in- telligence affecting the national security. I feel that there should he a joint congressional comnrt!- tee authorized, and that the CIA should, as a matter of law, keep !hit committee fully and current- ly Informed with respect to its activities. The need for the Central Intel- li /ence Agency is seldom ques- tioned any longer and I certainly am not challenging it now. What I am concerned with, however, is CIA's position of responsibility to nose but the National Security Council. I believe this should he changed, It is true that intelli- gence services of othe,' major countries operate witiiou. direct control of the legli,lature), 'nits is understandable in a tot, tar. ian government, such as the So- let. Union. It is evert 1..nder- siandable in a parliament try de- rnoeracy. such as Crept Britain -here the entire adnai'sistration is a part of and is responsible to Parliament. Our fo.rr-rn of gov- eriiment, however, is i.r,ted on a System of checks a 1,1 balances. It this system gets jealously out of balance at any p,;rt the whole system is jeopardized and the way is opened for tho growth of tyranny. ly every ordinary tome o! con- gressional check. Central of its expenditures is exem.;-t(d from the provisions of law which pre- vent financial abuses in other gov- ernment agencies. Each year only a handful of members in each House see the appropriation figures. There Is no regular me- thodical review of this agency, other than a briefing Which is supplied to a few members of se- lected subcommittees. I agree that an intellig?nee agency must maintain co:':plete secrecy to he effective. If c ande- stine sources of information were Inadvertently rcvealr -f' t h e v would quickly (Irv up N,,t only would the flow of infoir,istion be cut off, but the lives of many would be seriously e'ndargered. In addition, much of the value of the intelligence product tsould he lost if it were known that lee possessed it. Secrecy for these purpo es is oh\iousIv nCcrs'. ti'p'. UNTIL A COMMITTEE of the kind I am proposing is estab- liNhed, there will be no way of knowing what serious flaws In the Central Intelligency Agency may be covered by the curtain of secrecy in which it is shrouded In 1949 the Hoover Commission examined the CIA. A tack force stated that-- The Central Intelligence Agency has not yet achieved the desired degree of pro- ficiency and deix'ndability in its estimates. Without it, the National Security Council can- not succeed in assessing and appraising the objectives, com- rml't:ents, and risks of the United States in relation to our . . - military poser, with sufficient continuity or defi- niteness 10 constitute a practi- cal guide to the Military Establishment as to the size of our military needs. ITOWEVER, '111ERE Is a pro- found difference behrecr, an es- sential degree of secrecy to -achieve a specific purpose and secrecy for the more sake of secrecy. If a net% comrmitte.? is set up as proposed in this legislation, all bills, resolutions, and other emit- tern in the Senate or rn the House of Repiesentat;'-rc rela!- ing primarily to the ('IA ,emit be referred to the joit.t commit- i tee; and the joint rrr,unittec mould, front time to Limo, r?iakc whatever reports are nr('i'-. iry to the Congress concerning its relationship nth the CIA.;: This resolution wutr;i! establish members shall be of the same po- litical party. THE JOINT COMMITTEE or any duly authorized subcom- mittee thereof would be au- thorized to hold such hearing., to sit and act at such place, and times, to require, by suhpena or otherwise, the attendance of such witnesses and the produc- tion of such books, papers, and documents, to administer such oaths, to take such testimony. to procure such printing and binding, and make such expendi- tures as it deems advisable. '1'lHERE' ITAS FFl. s' almost no eongrc,ssinnal iriclection of the (',-ntral Tnteliigenee. ligenvy since 'e latter's estah!'s tr i'nt in 1947. It is c?oncenab!r- it et t., the need an in'elligri, ,? se,-%ice had horn evident it i)41 ,Ile Con- l;ressional Pv0l.l.Rnl!4'l y, 'Net of '!,at year wou;,i ' t n ids pro- I F,ons for con,,' -.s'oral partiei- { 4tp~o1J r t e.ne r, ?s - i t? e nrnc- rf r t a joint conunittec, contpo,ed of TIII?: PURPOSE OF the joint six members of the Senate to he congressional committee would appointed by the President of he in 'A sense to safeguard as the Senate and six meinbet s of well as to supervise the poll- the House of Representatives to r dies of the CIA. In my opinion be appointed by the 51>.cai.ct' of the Congress should, because of the House of Reprcnen'xlivcs. In the very nature of the work of each in+tance. not mare than lour the CIA, do everything in its power to protect its activities and to make .t possible that the CIA as an or-F;anization, will not lose Its effectivttress, and will be able to continue its extremely important work in such a man- 1-a' as to warrant the necessary aroma of freedom of activity ri tare necessary security to fertram the duties allocated to 41 taxi f the law. ? tr President, if a joint corn- I r ? s established, CIA nf- i,'. w.11 no longer he dcf~ nfr- t:I,list criticism boom I6e r.i ' ,',t. are sealed. They would, it n,: ,;: essional channel to i.', I i 'i 1.r joint committee, in r ~r''sc and the p'ib- I of Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R0001 00110002-6 Eyes on Intelligence , HON. VERA BUCHANAN Or ri3I aYLTANIA IN TTlE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATWES Wednesday, February 2. 1955 Mrs. BUCHANAN. Mr. Speaker. un- der leave to extend my remarks, I wish o include in the RscoRD an editorial from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette of January 31, 1955. The editorial calls attention to a reso- lution Introduced In the Senate for the creation of a Joint Committee on Intel- ligence Matters. A resolution for a similar purpose has been introduced In this House, and I am happy to be one of the cosponsors of it. ETas ON INrLILxGrAcE A resolution that deserves the early atten- tion of Congress has been Introduced by Sen- ator Mlxs MANSFIELD, of Montana, on behalf of a bipartisan group of 33 Senators. The measure would create a joint 12-member congressional committee, similar to that on atomic energy, to supervise the Central In- telligence Agency. Much of the activity of the Central Intel- ligence Agency, like that of the Atonic Energy Commission, is secret and not sub- Ject to routine scrutiny by Congress. Yet if the CTA is to be ultimately answerable to the American T>ecpie for what It does all over the world. It should come under the regular observation of elected officials. It should be subject to the system of checks and balances designed to prevent any one department froin becoming too autocratic. A commit tee of Senators and Represent:? tices could facilitate the handling of CIA le{islatlve bustnes.. Like the Joi>t Congre:- rional Committee on Atomic Energy, It could. when secrecy is essential, hear testimony in executive session without the necessity of repetition such as occurs when two com- mIttees of Congress must deal with the same question. The proposed Joint committee would bring under systematic review an agency of Government which, to its detri- ment, now only attracts congressional eye, whe>i some nenlatlonai suspicion about it Is voiced. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 Ftti z Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 conirlhntoTs l"ortitie to the ex,xuiK J wit Conr;ruhttee on are the military services. with CIA tllltnR to .,.r .-vtrunv too evaluation, btlfl Joint Congressional Committee on Central Intelligence i.X I-ENSION OF REM. 1 KS NON. EDWARD P. BOLAND OF YAe?aacut 9rrrTe IN Tills ROUSE Ute REPR238ENTATIVE9 Wednesday, February 2, 1955 Mr. BOLAND. Mr. Speaker, I call the atten'ion of the House to the reso- lution of c-cnator MANSr1FLD creating a joint ccniwittee on Intelligence. For years SeliNtor MANSFIELD has argued with increasing effectiveness for a closer look at our intelligence efforts. In effect this joint committee would be a watch- dog of the extremely important and highly sensitive Central Intelligence Agency. Since Congress appropriates the funds for its operation and because there is little or no knowledge on the herently has for the former. As Mr. MAYS- part of Congress as to the disposition niu.D say,. it would safeguard as well as of the appropriated moneys, It does seem suocrvise the'CIA, and it would give to CIA to be good commonsense that both because their deteiu eleasa led in t CnniciSm branches of the Congress have some 1 atonal channel t-) whits they would have Members who are aware of the mission ready access. Some year9 ago a Hoover Com- mission task force recommended a congres- not be so completely in the dark as to atonal "watchdog" committee for CIA. Its its functions. The ereai:ion of a joint etitablLhment would In our opinion be of committee such as recommended by benefit to Congress and CIA alike. Senator MANSFIELD and several Members of the House, including myself, would [From. the Washington Post and 'rimes Herald I go a long way in establishing better rela- tions between the Agency and the Con- I'TrLLIC}:Nr1. Qt'oTfrtrT gress; fears would be dispelled and the senator MANSFIELD has again Introduced magn;flcent work of the CIA would be his Iesolutloti for the est.,blishment of a appreciated. Joint Congteoslotifti ('onitnittee on central In conjunction with the above, I in- Intelligence, this time with the support of 37 other senators Initially this newspaper was elude with these remarks two very fine skeptical of such a step. not because there is editorials-one front' the New York itot a need fur more intensive congressional Times and the other from the Washing- ton Post and Times Herald. Both arti- cles approve the suggestion of a joint committee on central Intelligence and both point up, some very significant observations: 1From the New York Timesl CIA ' "WATCUDOO" The secret eyes and ears of the Federal Government, otherwise known as the Cen- tral Intelligence Agency, have been receiv- ing an unusual amount of serious attention lately. A special Presidentially appointed group headed by Lieut. Gen. James H. Duo- little (retired) made a confidential survey of certain aspects of the CIA last fall, and reported that the organization was doing a "creditable job" but that some changes were needed. An entirely distinct and possibly more far-reaching Inquiry has been proceed- ing for come time now under direction of Olen. Mark W. Clary on behalf of the Hoover Commission. Meanwhile. Senator MANSTITS.D, of Mon- ber of the Foreign Relntlons tana, a mem Committee, has renewed his long-standing Ing by this snp-rvecrei agency, it would also demand for closer congressional liaison with give CIA a sp Seaman on Capitol Hill slid the CIA through the establishment of a Joint , fend Off Mre Acme dYPe fishing to such expeditious. a plan. of course One is the danger of leaks. though the t inieein of the committee ought to be with br:+nd Iwitcy rather than with ini mate details and care to the seUxtion of members could atold loading the committee with know it iii tb he !n on tb; Another dim- Cnite lies In the fact that ('IA to re., ponsible I r only a part of tie total intelligence oper- tors of both parties, Senator MANSFIELD fully recrrgnlies tine (-btlous need for secrecy regarding intelligence operations: but he [Hakes the point that "once secrecy becomes sacrosanct it invites abuse," and under present condltiuns Ilie CIA is "freed from practically every form of congressional check." A secret Intelligence agency with no wide a field of oiler itlon> as the CIA U Inevitably an Instrument of great power; and it seems to us that Congress has a broad responsibility for It that should not be avoid- ed. Of course this is riot to say that de- tailed direction of the CIA is within the province of Congress; bot It is to say that there is a place for a small and highly dis- creet congresatt...1 body. aware of what is going on in this sensitive area, that can deeply affect the foreign relations of the United States. Furthermore. the formation of a joint congressional committee on intelligence af- fairs should do uta,ch to irnriune the rela- tions between CIA Lind Congress and to re- duce the suapirlrnn that the latter body in- sional committee would be bit ten by the operating bug and be tempted to Interfere with the day-to-day work of C'LA. But these are all difficulties which. It scents to us, could be overcome, The membership of the committee as provided in the resolu- tion already includes men frorp the Appro- priations Subcommittee which handle CIA's funds: perhaps It could be amended to pro- vide some sort of liaison with the military intelligence agencies. A task force of the Hoover Commission under den. Mark Clark now is studying the CIA. and undoubtedly It will make some recommendations when it reports this spring. No action ought to be taken until these recommendations are weighed. But there Is good reason to think that the concept of a more informed con- gresetonal review is practicable and that such a review would help the country Improve Its Itttelllgeaee eIItcteucy. scrutiny of the Central Intelligence Agency. but because of the danger that the confiden- tial torture of a sensitive executive agency might be coin pi, nii.sed. Now we are per- sugdea. hnwer era that some broader congres- slonal review world on balance he desirable and could be a. conhpllaht?d safely. Mist persons in a pc;sltlun to have some appraisal of CIA's work ?gree that the Intelli- gence estimates have luhproved markedly in recent years ,u:1 that the undercover oper- ations have been conslderably less flamboy- ant -despite repr.r is of somewhat clumsy and transparent undertaki rigs to the Far East. Bill, a e:ecrct hitelllgerlte operation Insulated from normal rjtecks and balances is, how- ever necessary. at best a risky enterprise. No agency is to pronclent, either. that it could not benefit from Informed criticism. CIA is responaihte to the National Security Council, it is true: but NSC in turn also is a vehicle of the executive department and has too heavy res{xmISlblhtiCR to give CIA any very cornpreheiisite scrutiny. A }Milt Coll- gressional committee on the pattern of the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy would Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 lrivl 5 HERALD ZULU / IJ33 roved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R0001 00110002-6 Urges Unit To Eye CIA ~e:.. Mike -Mansfield (D?Monl.) -r 'aid yesterday he has the prom r- ced support of 35 other Sena.f tors for his proposal to set upi .1 Ioi'it coil gressionaI committee; ti keep a constant check" on arc Central Intelligence Agency We have no desire to pryI ;:ntr the necessary secrets oft C1.%," -Mansfield said in an inter.; victy. fiat, he contended, they present method of letting a few, lop members of Senate and r )louse committees check the stipersecrel agncy "is a hodge- podge svitent."e Mansfield said there "has been almost no congressional inspec. tion" of CIA s,nce it was set upi to replace the Office of Strategic' Services of World War 11 days.' Only a few members o: Congress even know how much money it, spends or how many personsi work for It, he said. "I agree that an intelligence agency must maintain complete; secrecy to be effective," he said.) ! "Tat Dice secrecy becomes sacro- 'anct, it invites abuses." I'he Montana Senator said the ]o:nt CIA committee he proposes " would operate in much the a request for action or) hip ; same manner as the presents proposal pond,r,g completion' !.hint Atomic Committee operates of Clarks rr;ur in that field." His proposal is expected to run into powerful opposition of the; Appropriations and Armed Servi r ices Committees in both the Sell-' ate and House. Chairman Richard B. Russell) (I) Cass) of the Senate Armed Service, Committee disclosed test week that senior members rrf that group had been check- 1,'; on CIA from time to time since it was set tip by the Na. tional Security Act of 1947. lieut. Gen. James Doolittle, World War I' Air Force lead. en. has completed a special in- vestigatiotr of CIA at the re- quest of President Eisenhower,; and a separate probe now Js j being made by Gen. Mark Clark under auspices of the Hoover Commission on Govern-. ment organization. Mansfield ..aid he probably would delay Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 Approved For Release 2002/9(M iI1P84-00161 R000 BA11,TI MORE 5UM 10 33.Seritors Propose Joint Con y; ressional Chech.On CIA Wa%hington. Ian. 14 -;Senator ',Ianxhtid (D.. Mont ) today in- roduced with the support of 3: ether senators, a resoluttea which v+ould create a twelvernembel Joint contnlttte In check an the work of the sur-erseeret Central Intelligence Agency. Ills reaul,ttlon was apor,sr I'd by eighteen othr r Drn.orratic .senators, ,hlrteer. Raput)Ilcans Iamong thrnc Rea'I of Mar,Ian.I and the single independent Mor.t r Clef 1 The Monta$a Sen ator put f?t A ar?o a similar mras lure in the last t'ongrew but It was not arced upon. Mansfield Gives Views 1l.vnafir?ld AciUPd t(Ntay that the special )oInt committee alyouid he Iauthoiized along the.lltsat of the ffJolnf Committee ea Atumrc I nergy. and that the CIA should as ^ matter of law, keep the pro posed committee "fully and cur rrntlv informed with respect to !ts sc?tr. (ties," He said there hop been almost no congresional inapectiea of the a1ancy since It :sass o0ablt$hed 7N7. The need for the Qntrel In. felilgenee Agency Is sojeem flues. tinned any longer ^nd I am err. tainly not Challenging it stow," tlidnalleld said. "What I as Coa- corned with, however, to CIA's position of responsiblilty to none but the National Security Coup- rill" The National Security Council is an agency of the President. On the point that the CIA now Is freed from "practically evc+t-y ordinary form of congrosaional check," Matssfield said: "Control . of its expenditures is exempted from the prosVtnns of law which prevent ttnxnciai abuses IN other - (3otrernment agencies. "No Methodical Rev4iiil "T:aca year oply a handful of members in each house see the lIpronriation rgurea. There is no ,regular. methodical review of this aghwy. other than a br-efing Iwhd^h Is supplied to a few arm- hers of salected subeornmittess " Mansfield's resolution indicated 'th" members of C'ongreas who i,.rw? e. r? gi'en such Inf.,rinntnn about the CIA as Is suhmilte?d Ills resolution provided that of t'rr 'ix senators who woul4 be atI- ar ofat.cLD otirvtM (Washlnpfon Aurrau of The .Silts) committer, thief would be lnenl? bers of the CIA rut cn:nn:tl1H of the Apprcnnatlo?ii ('c-ncnittee and three would br e'nbers of the CIA tub*otti all ee of the Ai mod 'ervt(rs (ctnni,tlee. The six limas mri-tl,rrs aim- Ilarly wv.utd be aIpc?,ntc-d from the ',-IA vtrtrurnmtltee. of Ihr Ap? prepr:attons art .\rruru ~,rrvkea cumrr,tlet- As lltan,fie Id n,.trd. lhr l,gureai In the ('(A. , pt ' p; L4* on, hats: have no, been idrr it rd ?rplIrele'l. Iy In Congte- of it, the budget. 1.aet (A-tr.b,?r 19 l.i"ur (,en Jmw. A IN,oHttle Mho 1 radecl a 'cur men group alvpu''1 eci by the 1'tt:uirnt y+ ex..U. cfic' srnsii,v, Nip, rl.- ui br a^.iigrn r agency, rupnrtrd that t!n' ('I.A 1, dmnq a 41'Pifilah1r J-0, - and "gradually Improving is taps bllitles." Another retied general, Gen Nark W (lark, heal. a Hoover ('ornnhJ,,Ion "task f,,rcr' wblch has been a work on an Invest: gallon of the ('IA fir srversl months. The 1tom,r (Pminis%loni 11 expected to make a ri-4n1 t to Congresa. McCarthy Considered Probe senator McCarthy in . A,ji l talked of inveatigattng the CIA last summer, alleging that lls security standards needed exam- inMg, but Allen Dulles, head of the agency, ohjeeted that public questioning of its of icial% would jeopardise its operations Senator Mansfield recaUedl today that the Hoover ('rcmmts?, stun examined the CI ii in 1949 and recommended that steps be taken to improve the sgcnr_y sad its work "I agree that an lntellil;qyce agency most retain eerrtpTetl~ secrecy to be elTeetive "1ilansftel said. "It clandestine sources of Mi- formation were inadvertently re~ veilecd. they would, Quickly dry up ... "However, there is a profound difference bitwetn an elsentlal degree of secrecy to achieve is speclfie purpose and ?e(re for the mere sake of sec-re -v "Once sWr'eey heron. 'arro 'Lent, it ier, lie, abuse If c+c ac I reps t } u . Trips of r , r rr . Mr. seereey's 'Lake ..P -ill have no way of kso.vtrg whether we have, a fine intelligence - :. ur ur a STATINTL Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 : * Th4 5uiwda,.i Necal& artrquate informafAp bo,r"f ^fil,r ad QQ ~(~1.~4'0 IA-RDP84-00161 R0001 00110002-6 spa and Co;nmunist China. Cring- rrc,icrnal chick :ups could rnrrtr aP arrurat ri " r r i Cl.i i F it :i d. frrtrili'ir., hot holrts ='a= r"' m ce m ca would hatepupl to 22 meri9bers, there were serinus arimimstra- the dangers of inadvertent Live flaws in the management of "?iraks" would me multiplied] the agency, which gets its hinds proportionately, lie has fesitflcrl.1 in a roundahnut tray, ar.d doesn't Mansfield denies this. Ile sous ha`, to Account. to Cnnt;r?r+MM for the atomic energy cornmittre its exprnditu:rt, has a good record in aafeguant- The tank (orcr (n,:nd II s/ Ad- ing rlaaifled information, et equaie piecautinn= air ia;crn to have the Senate and Flouse ap-` keep suhtrrsnrs frr,rn infiltra- propnatinta committee.. Mans-' ling CIA. In Oils rr espdNes among Chiang ia1-shek's defeated Nationalists. ?I do not need to point out the tremen- dous impact which this sort of activity could have on our foreign policy. Other cvtuttries cannot be expected to distin- guish between CIA policy and United States Policy. If these reports are true, then It would appear to others that it was United States foreign policy to pro- mote a neo-Nazi organization, to Incar- cerate a Japanese Citizen. and start a revolution in one of our neighboring countries, Moreover, ..the Burma epi. sode. according to the Washington Poet, "led to the resignation In disgust of one of the best and most respected of our career Ambassadors on the ground not only that he did not go along with the black diplomacy ? around him;, but that he was kept in Ignorance of it." Is there any wonder that there should be increas- Ing concern with the absence of control over this agency? We cannot permit CIA. any more than we can permit any other government agency, to lave free reign to do anything It wants anywhere in the world. It its agents play care- lessly with fire. the whole world might get burned. I do not have o?elai verification of any of the criticisms I have mentioned. All lay Information, as'I have indicated, has been taken from public sources, But the point Is that any of these re-~ ported Incidents could be true, and we would not know the facts. Would it not be far more sensible it Congress were aware of the general policies being pur- sued by,Central Intelligence? Is there any other way that we can be reasonably certain that public funds are not being wasted? That the country is getting the intelligence It needs for its protec- tion? If a joint committee is established, CIA officials would not have to seal their lips and put on the face of martyrdom Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 . .1054 Approved For P94: BR1P ,1A 0100110002-6 2815 the CIA neither u1 ems nor denies; It simply mostly in South Pacific: resident of Arteons, people of the United States, In the sense that evade, answering. cattle breeder and rancher. the people are permitted to form their own F. what little has been printed about prank 0. Wisner. 43. acting deputy director. opinions of whether they are getting value the CIA, It is known that the Agency has bad native of Laurel. Miss.. graduate of the Unl- received, but solely to the National Security its internal difficulties. In October 1947 acv- varsity of Virginia; lawyer; perved in World Council--& group of top Government om- eral employees were fired as "bad security War II as a naval intelligence officer, later ciais who have a thousand other concerns risks." On another occasion, Senator l1C- with 098 in Africa. Middle East. Balkans. and cannot possibly maintain $ close check CASTHT charged (with apparent accuracy) prance. and Germany, discharged as cor- tut the CIA's day-to-day spending. that a pervert dismissed from the State De- Blander; with State Department, 1947. as Nothing like the CIA exists anywhere in partment had turned up on CIA's payroll deputy assistant Secretary of State for Oc- the American Government. The Atomic The Agency came In for severe criticism when cupped Areas; Joined CIA. 1948. Energy Commission deals in secrets of the South Korea was invaded-to this Nation's Walter Reid Wolf. 58. deputy director: most vital nature, yet the A!C's budget is total surprise-In June 1950 and again the graduate of Yale; banker; vice president of a matter of public record; the AEC pub- following fall when the sins of the Chinese National City Bank of New York since 1938; 14hes an annual report: it special commit- communist Intervention was tragically un- leader in many civic activities tee of OonOese keeps a watchdog eye on Its derestlmsted. CIA was badly mousetrapped Charles Pearre Cabell. 49, director of the activities; the ABC's budget is not sacrosanct, laat year when it swallowed a false tip that general staff; native of Dallas, graduate of and can be trimmed whenever the American Owen Lattimore was about to skip the noun' West Point; holds rank of major general In people conclude that too much money Is try for Russia. the Air Force: formerly director of Intel- being poured Into atomic research. The FBI The extent of CIA's Successful efforts L ligence for the USA?, attended the Yalta 1s a highly secret outAt, yet is Is no secret understandably unknown; In common with Conference. that the PSI spent nearly 977 million In the intelligence services everywhere, the Agency That about exhausts our notes on the last fiscal year. and that it employs some never mentions its successes. It to known CIA, and it thin batch of facts it to to work 14.00 persons whose average salary is 94.800. that CIA had a hand in reporting Soviet Rus- with. What disturbs us about the Central Similarly, the defense establishment deals era's Ant atomic explosion. Beyond that. Intelligence Agency U this very thinner6 constantly in matters sit the deepest secrecy. nothing can be pinned down. To be sure, we recognize that some secret yet the budgets of Army. Navy. and Air Force Of CIA's organization and routine, little operations are necessary If this Nation is to are available for any eltiasnti Inspection. has been officially disclosed. One account be properly vigilant in the cold war, and No one in his right mind would suggest that is that CIA has 5 major divisions-S to col- secret operations would cease to be secret if every American should have a pass to the lect information. I to Index information, they were conducted in klieg lights and full Pentagon's code room, or access to Secretary the fifth to evaluate the Information and publigtty. But we are far from certain that Wilson's private files; yet the very essence prepare the CIA's estimates. These estimates the sweeping secrecy of the CIA-extending of the American farm of garerument by the (originated by pen. Walter Bedell Smith even to Its most routine operations-can be people is reflected in the fact that the peo. when he was director of CIA In 1950-52) are justified, or that the value of many of its ple am kept fully Informed on military summaries of intelligence prepared by the Investigations outweighs the old. established spending and can check the high bra.. agency for the President and other top o15- value of Government accountability dl- whenever the spirit moves them to do so, core of the Government. They arrive dally rectly to the people. Noce of this applies to the Central Intel. at the White House, It Is Said. mimeographed Congress long ago created a special com- llgence Agency. It In a eeparats and clan. In purple Ink and sealed to a blue folder. mutes to watch the Atomic Egnery Corn- destine entity In our Government. One of Other more extensive estimates are prepared mission, in part to keep a check on the the most reliable budgetary experts In Wash- weekly and monthly. These are compiled day-to-day activities of men with tremen- ingtoa has told us that he believes CIA's not merely from the reports of the CIA's dous power over mighty weapons. It would spending "s In the neighborhood of a bil- espionage agents-the cloak-and-dagger be in the public Interest, as we see it. for lion dollars a year,' yet no eommltee of spies of adventure Action-butt more matter- a similar committee to be set up to watch Congress can obeck CD this figure nor can, of-factly from the reports of Foreign Service the watchdogs of the CIA. to make spot. the beleagured American people find out observers, military and naval intelligence checks on expenditures. to keep budget re- whether the CIA IS worth Its cosh-whatever officers, immigration officials, narcotics In- quests In line, to nee that secret policies laid the cost may be. Funds may be transferred apeptors in far-off corners of the world. and down by the director of the CIA are not to the CIA from other agencies of the Gov. employees of the Treasury and Commerce opposed to the people's wishes as the peo- ernment "without regard to any provisions Departments In foreign stations. It has plea representatives understand them. of law limiting or prohibiting transfers be- been estimated that about 90 percent of We are uneasy about this outfit-the tween appropriations." llur*ly that clause CIA's work is no more secret than a Carnegie power It holds, the secrecy with which it In the CIA Act makes a rockery of con- library, and the bulk of Its work lies simply shrouds Its operations, the potential for evil gressional control over the publle puree. In correlating factual Information that Is that lies in the CIA's virtually unchecked No restrictions are laid upon the CIA's lying around for anyone to pick up. authority. And we commend to Congress a activities. The status reads that "Notwith- How many employees this worldwide op- searching study of the powers it has vested standing any other provisions of law. sums oration Involves. bow much they are paid, In the agency. What Congress has given. made Available to the agency by appropria. how well they are doing their jobs. whether Congress can take away-and in the case of tlons or otherwise may be expended for pur- the jobs are worth doing-to all of these the CIA, some taking away of excess power Poses necessary to carry out its functions." questions the CIA stands dumb. Of a few might prove exceedingly wise. The CIA, of course. decides for itself what executives, some names and skeleton facts its functions are. The law specifically ap- are known. The top braes Includes From the Richmond (Va.) News Leader of PFGv"* 5Wend1tVres for "personal Services without regard to limitations on types of per- Allen Welsh Dulled. 59, director of the July 17, 19531 sons to be employed; radio-receiving and CIA; brother of the Secretary of State. grad- "Aaotrr Watcn You AcTuALLT KNOW radio-sending equipment; purchase. main- uate of Princeton and George Washington NOTHING" tenanee. and cleaning of firearms. Including Universities. lawyer. in United States diplo- One of our more articulate critics, In a purchase, storage. and maintenance of am- matic service, at Vienna. Berne. Berlin, Con- letter full of strawmen and ad hominem ar. munition: acquisition of necessary land: stantinople, 1916-26, delegate to Interns- guments. takes us severely to task In the construction of buildings and facilities with- tional conferences of 192533, attached to Forum today for an editorial of July 18. In out regard to 99 Statutes, ON, 40 United 08,9 In World War U. that editorial we reviewed the astonishing States Code 259. 297." Sherman Kent, 49, assistant director for law under which the Central Intelli. ALL sums made available to the CIA "may national estimates; native of Chicago; grads- gence Agency to permitted to conceal every be expended without regard to the provisions ate of Yale and member of Yale's faculty aspect of its operations-including the size of law and regulations relating to the ex (professor of history) since 1928: chief of of its budget and the length of its payroll- penditure of Government funds; and for ob- the Europe-Africa Division of 069, 1941-45; from the American p ople. At no time has jects of a confidential, extraordinary, or State Department. 1949; Instructor in Na- this newspaper suggested that CIA activity ebtergency nature, such expenditures to be tional War College. 1947; author of Strategic be fully revealed to the American people. accounted for solely on the oertflcate of the Intelligence (1947). What we have demanded is an amendment Director. and every such certificate shall be Loftus E. Becker, 41. deputy director for to the basic CIA law that would provide some deemed a nuflicient voucher for the amount intelligence; native of Buffalo: graduate of mea.+ure of public accountability for funds, therein certified." Harvard and Harvard Law School; lawyer; and place some restrictions upon the CIA's We deny, as vigorously as we know how, rose from private to major in World War U. now unlimited opportunities for Interna- that any such sweeping concealment Is in served with Ninth Army In Europe, attended tional troublemaking. the public interest. The most effective re- the Nuremberg trials as an adviser on Ger. One phrase In Mr. Lucas' letter serves to stralnt yet devised on the extravagant ambi- man military organizations: joined CIA III buttress the point we have been making. Lions of Government omccials is the vigilant. April 1951. He says we are spreading mistrust of an watch of the American people and the Amer- Matthew Baird. 43. director of training: agency about which you actually know noth- Ivan press. Once that restraint is wiped out, native of Ardmore, Pa., graduate of Prince- Ing discreditable Knock off the last word! and power is permitted to breed unchecked ton and Oxford: educator, former head- We moat assuredly mistrust an agency of in the darkness. waste and corruption are master of the Arizona Desert School; served Government about which we actually know provided a fertile loll in which to grow. 44 mouth, with Air Force In World War II, nothing. The CIA is responsible not to the Certainly we mistrust the CIA-and we will Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 Approved Fa(A)pltMcV~E84Q'1B000100110002-6 March 10. cnntinve to spread that mistrust in the ter- vent hope that others will awake to the dangers Inherent In this unknown and un- knowable OOPU In our Midst. (From the Richmond (Vs.) News Leader of July 24, 19541 To WATch Tats CIA Senator Mss .S a>rasnmA. Of Montana, this week offered a resolution that serfs wide- spread and immediate public support. see proposes the establishment of a Joint Coat- mittes all Central intelligence. to be pat- tented after the joint Committee on Atomic P3tergy. 'The CIA Is In somewhat the gams Cate- gory as the AEC." Senator Msmtaezm.a aatd. and just as a special eomm$ttee, with weu- denned authority and power. has been cr- ated on a joint congressional baste to over- see and supervise the interests of Ow AE0. ao I believe should a joint eoeprsaslonal committee be created for the game purpose in connection with the CIA ? ? ? for par- poses of seeing that good management is maintained in the CIA and also to keep a constant check on its tntetligsum polides. It is well. too, that this joint eoseatttee should be in a position to criticise any MU- takes which the CIA may make." This newspaper has been urging the cre- ation of such a committee for the put sev- eral months. At Present the CIA L wholly beyond the reach of the Congress that We- ated It. The agwwp budget is eeoret; Its payroll Is secret; Its employees are tinder orders to ignore congressional comraitteee' and to refuse to answer their q-.lestfotu. BY law the CIA boa unlimited authority to spend virtually Unlimited amotmts of money for wholly unlimtted ' purposes. Neither the Congress nor the pubtle has any way of knowing whether the CIA is doing a good job or a terrible job, whether it is wasting millions or spending Its funds with scrupulous care. Senator Msnapsma's proposed committee has been needed for a long time. W earn- mend his resolution warmly to Virginia's delegation on the Sill. Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President. I yield the floor. MEDICAL SERVICE CORPS, REGULAR ARMY ,J Mr. KNOWLAND. I suggest the ep- sence of a quorum. .s>!" The PRESIDING OFFICER..+(Mr. PUR2S1.L in the chair). The will call the roll. r The (tilef Clerk proceeded, ton the. roll. Mr. KNOWLAND. Mr r dent. I ask unanimous consent,that the order for the quorum gall be (rescinded. The PRESIDING ;'10MCER (Mr. Got.DwsTti in the ahdlr). Is there ob-. jection? The Char )rears none, and it Is so ordered. Mr. KNOW 114. President, pur- suant to my earlier announcement, I ask unanimous consent that the unfin- ished busness be temporarily laid aside and that the Senate proceed to the con- sideration of House bill 5509, to amend the Army-Navy Medical Services Corps Act of 1947, relating to the percentage of colonels in the Medical Service Corps, Regular Army. I might any to the acting minority leader that the other bill which I hi4 contemplated might be called up today, I have agreed to have go over until at least Friday, because tomorrow the time for debate will be controlled. rdo far as I know, there was no objec tion to the Medical Service Corps bill in the 64mmittee, but I will address an In- quiry to the junior Senator from Penn- sylvania [Mr. Durrl. who is represent- ing the ?rmed Services Committee In oonnedtion with the bill. I understand no minority views were filed. Mr. DUFF. ? The Senator is correct. Mr. JACKSON. Mr. President, as act- ing minority lee,der. I may say that I understand that: the ranking minority member of the Committee on Armed Services has no objection to the bill. Mr. DUFF. The Senator is correct; the Senator from Georgia I Mr. Russm.t.) raised no objection. and there was no objection to the bill in the committee. The PRESIDING 0k7ICER. The clerk will state the bill by title. The Clam Ci.uulc. A bill (H. R. 5509). to amend the Army-Navy Medical Serv- Itxs Corps Act of 1947. relating to the percentage of colonels In the Medical Service Corps. Regular Army. Mr. KNOWLAND. I might py, be- fore the Senate acts on the bill, that I utnderstapnd the Senator from Pepnsyl- vania is prepared to make a statement about the bill for the information of the Senate. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection to the present consideration 9f the bill? There being no objection, the Senat4, proceeded to consider the bill. _,I Mr. DUFF. Mr. President. the pur- pose of this bill is to repeal an existing provision of law which limits the num- ber of permanent colonels in the Medi- cal Service Corps of the Regular Arliky to I percent of the authorized Regular Army officer strength of that -corps. ThIs I-percent limitation contrasts with a limitation of 5 percent which is ap-, plicable to all other male arms and branches of the Army. , The 2-percent limitation was Included *i the original legislation as "commend- ed by the Department of the Army. The basis for the limitation was the number of positions justifying ofptrs of his per- manent rank in the then" existing tables of organization for Medical Service Corps officers. Since the Army-Navy Medical Service Corps Act of 1947 was enacted, the De- nartmnent of the Ari[ly has significantly broadened the utilization of Medical Service Corps officers. With the result that today there lire many additional areas and postUofis of responsibility for of cers of the M. lical Service Corps that did not exist in 1947. ? The Department of the Army is at- tempting to rflieve medical and dental officers from admintstrativtr and man- agerial duties, so that they may devote more time to the exercise of their pro- fessional . duties and qualifications. Army representatives maintain that the full achievement of the objective of re- lieving professional officers of adminis- trative and managerial duties is hindered by the 2-percent limitation which re- stricts career opportunities for Medical Service Corps officers. Plrrthermore. the continued existence of this limitation handicaps the Army In procuring and retaining officers who possess the educationtu, scientific, and technical qualifications desired in the Medical Service Corps. Enactment of this bill will enable the Medical (service Corps to have the same percentage of officers serving In the per- manent grade of colonel as 1;-now au- thorized for the other arms and branches of the Army. Notwithstanding this fact, Army representatives have 4essured the' committee that the Enactmg?n~t of this bill will not result In full utl]!ttaUon of the authority In the near fptxire. The addi- tional positions of permanent colonel would be filled gradually during the next few years, as officers become qualified and demonstrate die ability to serve In this grade. The PRIM117*0 OFFICER. The bill Is open to am#idment If there be po amendment to be pro- the ~esUon L an the third read- posed. sof the The bill 4IL R. MOD) was ordered to a third reading, read the third time, and pained, r M1 SSAOE FROM THE HOUSE 4, 1 >niessage from the House of Repre- seltives, by Mr. Chaffee, one of Its announced that the House had to the amendments of the senate to the bill (H. R. 5337) to pro- rlde for the establishment of a United -.8tatee Air Force Academy, and for other purposes; asked a conference with the Senate on the disagreeing votes of the two Houses thereon, and that Mr. SHORT,, Mr. Aaawna, Mr. Cos of New York. Mr.. tdcarza. Mr. Vineost, Mr. Saooss of LeuWana, and Mr. KILDA7 were ap- palpted managers on the part of the Howie at the conference. ?18TATEHOOD FOR HAWAII Th4ii Senate resumed the considera- tion adobe bill (S. 49) to enable the peo- ple of $Iwai to form a constitution and State gerernment and to be admitted Into the Vnion on an equal tooting with the origlStates. Mr. JA obtained the floor. Mr. of Colorado. . Mr., President. will the Senator from Wash-. ington yteld.I,t this .time., to permit me to suggest tht absence of a quorum? Mr. JACKSON. I am happy to yield' for that purport. - ' - Mr. JOfNS( f of Colorado. ? 't'hen, Mr. President, I 1 ggest the absence of a quorum. The PRESIDINO OFFICER. ' The' clerk will can the rOI}. The legislative clegi proceeded to call Mr. JACKSON. Mit. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the call of the roil be rea4trlded. The PRESIDING OFFI . Without objection, it is so ordered. Mr. JACKSON. Mr. President. I rise today to support of the amendment of- fered by the distinguished Se>setor from New Mexico IMr. ANDimsonl to add as title II of the Hawaiian statehood bill the bill reported from the Senate Com- mittee on Interior and Insular Affairs providing statehood for Alaska. , I should like to make It clear at the outset that I have always supported statehood for both Hawaii and Alaska. Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6 WASE1INGTON Xp&ved For Releas 02 Democrats Propose' Joint Committee to Watch Over CIA ' A joint congressional commit- tee similar to that which super- viSes the activities of the Atomic Energy Commission may soon be &o !t up to keep an eye on the Federal Government's No. 1 "un- touchable"-the super-aecret, hush-hush Central Intelligence Agency. The committee Is proposed In a bill introduced by a group of I>emocratic Senators led by Sen- ator Mansfield of Montana, It would create a 10-man commit- tee, five from each house, which ? The Senator noted that calls would make "continuing studies" for insestigations of CIA per. ,of the CIA. The agency would sonnel "have been met with a he directed to "keep the joint resistance not encountered from conimlttee fully and currently any other agency." informed with respect to its ac- The administration," he said, tivities." appears to support the view senator Mansfield told the that CIA officials merit an lm- 6,rate, when he introduced the munity which has never been bill, that "growing suspicion" of !sent claimed for any othether Go St Dement CIA might lead to "sporadic in- es Government cestigattons by various com- agencies handling equally confi mittees of Congress" unless a ?dential material. CIA seems to tingle, over-all committee were have marked out for itself a act- established. ISng above other Government iagencies, Congress and the pub- I McCarthy Planning Probe. lie." senator McCarthy, Republican, Losing Confidence. of Wisconsin tangled with CIA CIA, the Senator, acid, does some months ago and reportedly riot enjoy the same degree of has been considering a further I confidence from O ngresR and probe by his Permanent Investi- the country that ? the Atomic t:-atiotis subcommittee. He has Energy Commission does. And said he has "a really major "all signs point to a steady loss inquiry" in preparation but has of confidence." refused to comment on whether Senator Mansfield said the It might involve the CIA. agency is apparently involved in Senator Mansfield pointed out matters directly affecting foreign that CIA at present is "treed pollcy, such as aid to Nationalist from practically every ordinary (Chinese troops in Burma and I form of congressional check." alleged attempts to start internal Both its appropriations and Its troubles In Guatemala. personnel are concealed from "Until we create some sort i Congress, he said, and, as a of watchdog committee" we will result, "it is difficult to legislate have nothing but continued anx- intelligently for this agency be- lety about the Central Ir,telh- cause we have no Information ,,genre Agency and its widespread which we can be positive is activities," the Senator said. correct." Congress, he said. "Actually, the nature of its can only guess at the amount work. Its peculiar place In our Spent--some"rhere between $500. governmental structure have Arad $800 n.dl;on-.and personnel given this agency in effect a po- -- reportedly "between 0,000 and sition inviting Irresponsibility. At 30.000 emp:n.es." Its best this makes for continued Suspicion: at its worst It is &I menace to free government." i Approved For Release 2002/01/24: CIA-RDP84-00161 R000100110002-6