MINUTES TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTEENTH MEETING WEDNESDAY,27 SEPTEMBER 1978

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DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE
Security Committee
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28 September 1978
Minutes
Two Hundred and Sixteenth Meeting
'Wednesday, 27 September 1978, 1000-1220 Hours
Room 7D32, Langley Headquarters Building
Robert W. Gambino
Chairman
Presiding
MEMBERS PRESENT
Central Intelligence Agency
Col. Russell T. Newman, Department of the Air Force
Mr. Jerry Rubino, Department of Justice
Mr. David Ryan, Federal Bureau of Investigation
Mr. Richard Welch, Department of the Navy
Mr. Merrill T. Kelly, Department of the Army
ALTERNATES PRESENT
National Security Agency
Mr. Edward Grigalus, Federal Bureau of Investigation
Mr. David Humphrey, Department of the Treasury
Maj. Henry R. Koch, Department of the Air Force
Mr. David McCabe, Department of State
National Security Agency
Defense Intelligence Agency
ALSO PRESENT
Mr. Maynard Anderson, Office of Deputy Under Secretary of
Defense
Mr. John H. Mohardt, Federal Bureau of Investigation
Mr. Frank Larson, Department of the Navy
Mr. James F. Whalen, Federal Bureau of Investigation
Mr. Donald Stigers, Department of State
Mr. Roger
National Security Agency
Smith, Department of the Air Force
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ALSO PRESENT (Continued)
Defense Intelligence Agency
r. ac n Musser Department of State
Central Intelligence Agency
Central Intelligence Agency
Executive Secretary, Security Committee
ecurity Committee
ecurity Committee
Security Committee
Security Committee
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PRELIMINARY COMMENTS
1. II The Chairman advised that the DCI had signed
a memoran um sent to NFIB Principals inviting them to submit
nominations for persons to serve rotational, reimbursable
tours in two senior. position on the Community Security
Group (CSG). Some responses to this have been received.
The Chairman asked members to remind any of their Principals
who wish to offer nominations to do so as soon as possible
if they have not yet sent them in.*
2./ The the DCI had tasked
to develop a plan for
simplifying compartmentation while continuing to protect
sensitive s e information. I advised that 25X1
report is due b
about 6 Octob
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is being assisted by senior ersonnel from
Intelligence Community agencies. I noted that the 25X1
had presented a draft of his report to these personnel
on 26 September. The general direction of this tasked effort
seems to be towards reducing the extent of compartmented controls
for product, while enhancing the security protection of sensitive
aspects of sources and methods. Mr. Gambino advised that he
planned to withdraw the proposed DCID on compartmentation
from further NFIB consideration until such time as 25X1
recommendations are acted upon.
3. The Chairman advised that a Presidential announce-
ment pub icly acknowledging the "fact of" US photographic
satellite reconnaissance could come as early as 1 October
during a speech to be given at Cape Canaveral. Mr. Gambino
said he had been tasked to assist in developing implementation
guidelines on security related to actions associated with
and subsequent to the announcement.
4. The Chairman advised that the working group
reviewi security was now fully formed under Mr.
I Maj. Henry Koch, USAF, and
*Note: The Committee Staff, CSG,is now located in CIA Head-
quarters in Rooms 3E05 and 3D39 with telephone umbers
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NSA, as members. Unified and S ecified Commanders have
been queried on their views of the security system, and 25X1
selected Security Committee members have been asked to poll
their agency users for comments on how well the system works
and on problems they see in it. Mr. Gambino asked Committee
members to ensure that responses were submitted by 29 September.
5. 0 The Chairman advised that a security inspection
program would be put into effect at CIA buildings on/about
9 October. All briefcases and packages leaving the buildings
will be inspected. Exceptions will be made for authorized couriers.
Persons from other agencies who serve in a liaison capacity to
CIA will have their badges coded appropriately. Visitors to
CIA buildings may get one-time passes from their CIA host to
take material out. Mr. Gambino said the object of this is
to have a constant, visible reminder of the need for good
document security. He noted that when CIA has gained enough
experience with the program, the results may be briefed to
members so that other agencies wishing to do so can set up
comparable programs.
6. II The Chairman advised that the increased
detail and scope of intelligence submissions to 0MB indicated
a need for Community security officials to ensure that budget
documents display,in a conspicuous manner,all classification 25X1
and security controls appropriate to their contents.
8. The Chairman advised that
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NSA, had agree to serve as chairman of the Computer Security
Subcommittee.
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ITEM l: Approval of Minutes
II The Chairman advised that the minutes of the August
meeting were approved as written in the absence of any requests
for change.
ITEM 2: Subcommittee and Working Group Reports
b. (C) R&D - Isaid they had convened a working
group to explore means o con rolling reproduction of sensitive
documents. He noted that this objective had been previously
addressed without success both by CIA and by leading manufacturers
of reproduction equipment. He said they were now coordinating
an exploratory proposal for tagging particularly sensitive
documents as a security control measure. Mr. Gambino asked if
limitations on the number of makes of reproduction machines
.would help in resolving the copy control problem.
replied that it would, but that previous proposals to do so
had bee uled to be impermissible limits on open competition.
I ladvised that his subcommittee would explore, at
their next meeting, opportunities for Security Committee in-
puts to the major Department of Defense R&D program on physical
security.
c. Unauthorized Disclosures - after
introducing who is in charge or-arra ty
and terrorism matters in his office, discussed the findings and
recommendations of his report to the Chairman. (Copies of that
report, bearing serial number S-5609/RSS-3 and dated 31 August
1978, were provided members at the meetin Mr. Gambino
expressed his appreciation to and his group
for the comprehensive and constructive nature of the report,
and said he planned to see that it was disseminated to senior
officials to aid them in gaining a. better appreciation of the
problem. In response to a member's question, I ladvised
that the study of damage assessments being done by a C A con-
tractor had been completed for circulation as a working draft.
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In general discussion, members agreed that it was highly desirable
to proceed vigorously against those identified as responsible
for unauthorized disclosures in the interests of maintaining
basic credibility for our security programs.
that the Community statistical study oT DCID 1/14 cases would
begin on 2 October 1978 for a two-month period. He said he
would like to see the study extended indefinitely, if inputs
to it do not constitute an unreasonable burden, in the interests
of identifying long-term trends.
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e. 0 SCI Turndown - I ladvised that positions 25X1
with regard to this subject were still being solidified. Mr.
Maynard Anderson, Defense, noted that it had been agreed in
his department there should be.a uniform system of appeals
on turndowns, and that such should be referenced in a change
to DCID 1/14. Mr. Ryan noted that the FBI believed that they
had adequate authority under current Executive Orders to
establish and maintain a central registry of SCI turndowns.
ITEM 3: State Briefing on Moscow Embassy Security
The Chairman introduced Mr. Maclyn Musser, Chief
of State's Technical Security Division, to brief the members
on security plans for the new US Embassy to be built in Moscow;
and Mr. John Mohardt, FBI Washington Field Office, to give a
briefing on Soviet security practices during construction of
their new Embassy at Mt. Alto in Washington.
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ITEM 4: Impact of EO 12065 on Community Security prodecures.
reported that the Compartmentation
Subcommittee had identified 16 areas of actual or potential
impact on Community security policy procedures which they
believe should be considered for review. He said they had
ranked these in priority order, and that they considered
the first six the most important. He submitted a memorandum
identifying these areas (copies provided to members at the
meeting), and said that the subcommittee would continue to
examine these matters and report on their findings. Mr.
Gambino asked that checks be made to ensure that this effort
stays abreast of last minute changes in the implementing
directive being drafted for EO 12065.
ITEM 5: DCID 1/14 Adjudication Policy Guidance.
noted that comments on the draft guidance
would be addressed in a new draft which would. be provided for
coordination in October. Mr. Gambino said he doubted that a
Community approach could be employed with regard to SCI denials
and authorizations unless we had a common policy on adjudications.
Discussion showed that some members believed the current draft
needed revision to make it suitable for issuance as Community
policy. Mr. Gambino asked members who shared such concerns to
provide specific suggestions for improvement. He noted that
since the discussion showed a consensus in favor of Community
policy guidance in this area, we would work towards that goal.
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suggested that the proposed policy be keyed to the
elements of DCID 1/14 with illustrative examples on adjudication
determinations. said he thought we needed to have
the guidance state a nexus between behavior of security con-
cern and national security considerations.
ITEM 6: New Business
INo new business was brought up.
ITEM 7: Next Meeting
Mr. Gambino thanked Mr. Ryan for his memorandum
inviting the Committee to meet at FBI Headquarters, and said
he'd like to hold the next meeting there. He said he particularly
appreciated the offer to try to have Judge Webster address the
committee, and said he'd defer to the latter's schedule for a
meeting date. The Chairman said members would be advised of
the date selected.
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