MEETING WITH ANN GOODPASTURE

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP81M00980R000300020019-7
• Release Decision: RIFPUB
• Original Classification: C
• Document Page Count: 2
• Document Creation Date: December 19, 2016
• Document Release Date: December 22, 2006
• Sequence Number: 19
• Publication Date: November 24, 1978
• Content Type: MFR

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SUBJECT Meeting With Ann Goodpasture
1. Russ Holmes and I met with Ann Goodpasture for
almost an hour and a half, Wednesday morning, 22 Novem-
ber 1978, at my office. We had asked what matters of
interest had been indicated by HSCA personnel in the
course of her deposition on Monday.
2. She was asked if she had talked with Agency
personnel prior to her deposition. She replied that she
had been called by George Joannides, to be told that H~CA'~>
Goldsmith was trying to get in touch with her. She also
told them she had talked to Holmes and me following her la~~j:
deposition.
3. Tile photography in Mexico City seemed to receive
the main attention. She told them there was no photog~~aph;v
of Oswald. They went past that to why it no longer exists~~.~~~~t)
which she couldn't explain. She said it had been mainf:azn:~~-
intact so long as she had a responsibility for it. Sutsse-
auent to Win Scott's retirement, she understands, the r;ew
chief didn't want so many records. She says the file room
was unbelievably crowded, full of "unnecessary records.."
She .understands that Milly Rodrigues (who had custody) and
Charlottee Bustos (who had to approve what happened), t~nde~?
Charlie Rivera's authorization, represent the ones tivho
cleared vut files and would have been the ones most likely
to have destroyed them. Bustos, however, says they weren't
destroyed, which Goodpasture doubts is correct.
4. Ann Goodpasture says she knows there were no film
or pictures from LILYRIC when she did her work in 1977.
While we did not discuss the point, the so-called "unicLenti
fied man" was photographed by LILYRIC and that is the file
that no longer exists. Her memos of protest may have gone
with that. They asked her why she was hired, and she had
same confused impressions about testifying eventually; thi_R
is incorrect, as she was hired because someone was needed
who was knowledgeable about the files, and her name emcrge~i.
I told her this.
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S. On the "unidentified man" she states that she
protested sending in the photograph, and that it was dcane
over her objections. There were memos from her on this..
She suspects the memos were removed for some ulterior
purpose, the reasoning for which is not at all clear, as
it is hard to guess what was wrong with her taking a positi_d:~n,
much less this one, ar that it was very important tivhether
it was documented or not. In any event, she testified in
such a way -that it could lead the HSCA investigators, giveia
their bent, to advance it as "proof" that files were
destroyed to cover up something.
6. On Win Scott's draft manuscript, she testified
that it was wrong. She thought it occurred following his
retirement. She told Goldsmith (the HSCA man taking her
testimony) that he (Goldsmith) knew the draft was in error,.
as the transcripts showed that Oswald not only did not spear'
his name, but also did not give it in full. IVhen she
emphasized this point Goldsmith c{uickly (so it seemed to h~~~-)
changed the subject. She emphasized that whatever Scott
saw on this she saw first, so she is certain.
7. As Miss Goodpasture tells it to us, it would seem
that Goldsmith did not press on much new about photography,
except the Scott writing. She volunteered incorrect inform
.anon about why she was hired to do the research in 1977,
and raised a specter about destruction of records. Oth,:.r-
wise, the interview would seem uneventful.
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S. D. Breckinridge
Distribution:
1 - Mr. Holmes
-~1 - OLC/Subj
1 - OLC/Chron
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