LETTER TO MR. WILLIAM FRIEL HEINLICH FROM ALLEN W. DULLES

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STATOTHR
29 April 1958
Dear Mr. Dulles ;
Your speech before the United States Chamber of
Commerce was most sobering. Interestingly, it bore out in detail
the testimony of the many informed persons whom we have had here
in consultation on the problems of international communism. Some
months ago, for example, we heard several businessmen who deal in
the international market. They agreed with economists and professors
and the conclusions were precisely those which you pointed up in
your excellent presentation.
You also hinted at something which I think is vital
to our national interests, namely, the assumption of the psychological
offensive in this idealogical contest. The Western or free world
tendency to play for the headlines has been to communist advantage.
Much of our counter-propaganda has been clumsily executied, even
to the point of being responsible for communist recriuitments. It is
clearly pointless to refute communist claims - such refutation has
only the effect of repeating the slogans and symbols. We found in
RIAS that the most successful counterppropaganda was always the
ati,ack coupled with complete disregard for counter-attack or counter
claims. We never repeated their charges nor did we try to refute
them. We let them die in the sterile atmosphere of distain.
Enclosed herewith is something new, the first
consultation in a series dealing with communist psychological
warfare. You may find it of interest.
Perhaps the massive evidence which you presented
to the Chamber of Commerce will have some effect on our industrial
community. It seems to me that less trunk space in the 1960 auto
might be a small contribution to our preservation. There are a
lot of unanswered questions raised in your speech, the number one
being "what the hell are we going to do about it?" I hope that
some serious thinking is done as a result.
Warm Regards
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COMMUNIST PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE-
(BRAINWASHING)
CONSULTATION WITH
EDWARD HUNTER
AUTHOR AND FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT
COMMITTEE ON UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
EIGHTY-FIFTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION
MARCH 13, 1958
(INCLUDING INDEX)
UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
WASHINGTON : 1958
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COMMITTEE ON UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES
UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
FRANCIS E. WALTER, Pennsylvania, Chairman
MOROAN M. MOULDER, Missouri BERNARD W. KEARNEY, New York
CLYDE DOYLE, California DONALD L. JACKSON, California
EDWIN E. WILLIS, Louisiana GORDON H. SCHERER, Ohio
WILLIAM M. TUCK, Virginia ROBERT J. McINTOSH, Michigan
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CONTENTS
Synopsis ----------------------------------------------------------
March 13, 1958, consultation with:
Edward Hunter-----------------------------------------------
Index------------------------------------------------------------
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PUBLIC LAw 601, 79TH CONGRESS
The legislation under which the House Committee on Un-American
Activities operates is Public Law 601, 79th Congress [1946], chapter
753, 2d session, which provides:
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States
of America in Congress assembled, * * *
PART 2-RULES OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
RULE X
SEC. 121. STANDING COMMITTEES
17. Committee on Un-American Activities, to consist of nine Members.
RULE XI
POWERS AND DUTIES OF COMMITTEES
* * * * * *
(q) (1) Committee on Un-American Activities.
(A) Un-American activities.
(2) The Committee on Un-American Activities, as a whole or by subcommit-
tee, is authorized to make from time to time investigations of (i) the extent,
character, and objects of un-American propaganda activities in the United States,
(ii) the diffusion within the United States of subversive and un-American propa-
ganda that is instigated from foreign countries or of a domestic origin and attacks
the principle of the form of government as guaranteed by our Constitution, and
(iii) all other questions in relation thereto that would aid Congress in any necessary
remedial legislation.
The Committee on Un-American Activities shall report to the House (or to the
Clerk of the House if the House is not in session) the results of any such investi-
gation, together with such recommendations as it deems advisable.
For the purpose of any such investigation, the Committee on Un-American
Activities, or any subcommittee thereof, is authorized to sit and act at such
times and places within the United States, whether or not the House is sitting,
has recessed, or has adjourned, to hold such hearings, to require the attendance
of such witnesses and the production of such books, papers, and documents, and
to take such testimony, as it deems necessary. Subpenas may be issued under
the signature of the chairman of the committee or any subcommittee, or by any
member designated by any such chairman, and may be served by any person
designated by any such chairman or member.
* * * * * * *
LEGISLATIVE OVERSIGHT BY STANDING COMMITTEES
SEC. 136. To assist the Congress in appraising the administration of the laws
and in developing such amendments or related legislation as it may deem neces-
sary, each standing committee of the Senate and the House of Representatives
shall exercise continuous watchfulness of the execution by the administrative
agencies concerned of any laws, the subject matter of which is within the jurisdic-
tion of such committee; and, for that purpose, shall study all pertinent reports
and data submitted to the Congress by the agencies in the executive branch of
the Government.
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RULES ADOPTED BY THE 85TH CONGRESS
House Resolution 5, January 3, 1957
RULE X
STANDING COMMITTEES
1. There shall be elected by the House, at the commencement of each Con-
gress,
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(q) Committee on Un-American Activities, to consist of Dine Members.
* * * * *
RULE ZI
POWERS AND DUTIES OF COMMITTEES
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17. Committee on Un-American Activities.
(a) Un-American activities.
(b) The Committee on Un-American Activities, as a whole or by subcommittee,
is authorized to make from time to time investigations of (1) the extent, char-
acter, and objects of un-American propaganda activities in the United States,
(2) the diffusion within the United States of subversive and un-American prop-
aganda that is instigated from foreign countries or of a domestic origin and
attacks the principle of the form of government as guaranteed by our Constitu-
tion, and (3) all other questions in relation thereto that would aid Congress
in any necessary remedial legislation.
The Committee on Un-American Activities shall report to the House (or to the
Clerk of the House if the House is not in session) the results of any such investi-
gation, together with such recommendations as it deems advisable.
For the purpose of any such investigation, the Committee on Un-American
Activities, or any subcommittee thereof, is authorized to sit and act at such times
and places within the United States, whether or not the House is sitting, has
recessed, or has adjourned, to hold such hearings, to require the attendance
of such witnesses and the production of such books, papers, and documents, and
to take such testimony, as it deems necessary. Subpenas may be issued under
the signature of the chairman of the committee or any subcommittee, or by any,
member designated by any such chairman, and may be served by any person
designated by any such chairman or member.
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26. To assist the House in appraising the administration of the laws and in
developing such amendments or related legislation as it may deem necessary,
each standing committee of the House shall exercise continuous watchfulness
of the execution by the administrative agencies concerned of any laws, the subject
matter of which is within the jurisdiction of such committee; and, for that
purpose, shall study all pertinent reports and data submitted to the House by
the agencies in the executive branch of the Government.
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SYNOPSIS
Communist psychological warfare is now winning such extensive
victories; n the United States that the Red bloc will not need to employ
direct military force against us in order to win the total war which
they are waging, with this country the principal target, Edward
Hunter, American expert on Communist brainwashing, warned in a
consultation with the staff of the Committee on Un-American Activi-
ties.
Mr. Hunter, whose career as a foreign correspondent, author, editor,
world traveler, and specialist in propaganda warfare, qualifies him as
an authority on Communist propaganda techniques, stated:
"I spent 30 years, a little bit more perhaps, in countries under
various forms of Communist pressure and attack. What I am wit-
nessing in America is no different from what I saw in those other
countries. I am often referred to as someone who has made phe-
nomenal predictions that proved correct on things to come. Actually,
I have never made a prediction as such in my life. I have only pre-
dicted in the manner that one predicts the total of 4 after seeing the
figures 2 plus 2.
"I have been watching developments under communism in other
parts of the world, and now I see exactly the same developments
here in America."
These developments, he continued, "include, first of all, the pene-
tration of our leadership circles by a softening up and creating a
defeatist state of mind. This includes penetration of our educational
circles by a similar state of mind, in addition to one other thing-the
long-range perspective of the professor who is above anything that is
happening here and now, and considers himself as an objective specta-
tor in a long, long vista of history.
"I see, primarily, as part of this softening up process in America, the
liquidation of our attitudes on what we used to recognize as right and
wrong, what we used to accept as absolute moral standards. We
now confuse moral standards with the sophistication of dialectical
materialism, with a Communist crackpot theology which teaches that
everything changes, and that what is right or wrong, good or bad,
changes as well. So nothing they say is really good or bad. There is
no such thing as truth or a lie; and any belief we actually held was
simply our being unsophisticated. They don't say this in so many,
words, except to those who are already indoctrinated in communism.
What they do say to the rest of us is to be objective; and then they
twist that word `objective' into meaning what they mean by dialectical
materialism."
"War has changed its form," Mr. Hunter declared. "The Com-
munists have discovered that a man killed by a bullet is useless.
He can dig no coal. They have discovered that a demolished city is
useless. Its mills produce no cloth. The objective of Communist
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sions, so they can be put to use. This is the modern conception of
slavery, that puts all others in the kindergarten age.
"The United States is the main battlefield in this Red war. I mean
specificially the people and the soil and the resources of the United
States.
"It should be obvious to anyone who has observed the so-called
cold war that the United States is its principal target. We need only
read what the Communists themselves say, but we refuse to do so,
exactly as we could not believe that Hitler meant what he said in
Mein Kampf."
"The first battles in this total war have already been won by the
forces of international communism in the United States. These
victories are identical to those they have won in every country which
they have ultimately taken over. They have succeeded in softening
up a large element of the American population, particularly among
those to whom we look for guidance, our so-called intellectuals and
our so-called liberal circles. They have succeeded in making the
United States think and talk of a coexistence period as if that were
an end in itself; while in other parts of the world, as in India, the Reds
frankly explain that this coexistence is merely intended to give the
Americans an easy way to choose their road toward communism.
"This is strategy. The Kremlin is merely giving the United States
a choice of surrendering by voluntary change of attitude, to avoid
more destructive ways of surrender. Unfortunately, in the United
States, large elements, mainly among our non-Communist population,
have been softened up into believing that if we can just stall on this
situation, it will take care of itself. The Reds have succeeded in
inducing business communities to look to Soviet trade as a means of
restoring prosperity. Large business elements, with all their financial
and other resources, are now being used to help the Communist
objective of softening up America for recognition and acceptance of
Red China, for instance."
The Communists are being abetted in their brainwashing program
in the United States, Mr. Hunter declared, by the collapse of tradi-
tional American ideals of self-reliance and individual integrity.
"The Communists have been operating for a full generation, taking
strategic advantage of the American principles, exploiting the best
sides in our characters as vulnerabilities, and succeeding for a genera-
tion in changing the characteristics of Americans. I remember when
I was a young man, every personnel department was looking for
leadership qualities. What was sought was a man's capacity as an
individual to achieve new things. Today that is not even considered
by personnel departments in their employment policies. They ask,
instead, if the man 'gets along' with everybody. They do not ask
what is his individuality; they ask how he conforms. When we raise
a young man to believe that at all costs he must get on with everyone,
we have put him into a state of mind that almost guarantees, if he
falls into the hands of an enemy such as the Communists, that he will
react as he had been raised, to try `to get on,' because he must not be
`antisocial.' Being `antisocial' has become the cardinal sin in our
society. We have to again go back to characteristics of ours which
made us, as individuals, say that what is right is right, and whether
or not it is antisocial, makes no difference. The young man who
broadcast for the Red Chinese was simply `getting along' as he had
been taught to do by our educators."
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As an example of the success the Communists are achieving,
Mr. Hunter cited statistics on American prisoners of war in Korea.
"Never before in history had so many captured Americans gone to
the aid of the enemy.
"For 2 years the services studied the records of the prisoners.
What they found was not pretty.
"A total of 7,190 Americans were captured. Of these, 6,656 were
Army troops, 263 were airmen, 231 Marines, 40 Navy men.
"In every war in American history some men have managed to
escape. Korea was the exception.
"Roughly 1 of every 3 American prisoners collaborated with the
Communists in some way, either as informers or as propagandists.
"In the 20 prison camps, 2,730 of the 7,190 Americans died, the
highest mortality rate among prisoners in United States history.
Many of them died unnecessarily. They either did not know how
to take care of themselves or they just lay down and quit. Some sick
or wounded died of malnutrition abandoned by their comrades.
"Discipline among Americans was almost nonexistent. It was a
case of dog eat dog for food, cigarettes, blankets, clothes.
"For the first time in history Americans-21 of them-swallowed
the enemy's propaganda line and declined to return to their own
people."
Mr. Hunter declared that in the struggle with the Soviet Union,
"we are losing so fast that unless we put a very drastic end to it,
the question of who is winning will be academic in a decade."
"People at lectures and elsewhere," he declared, "frequently ask that
of me, as if begging me to say that we are winning. I wish I could,
but one only has to think of the position of the United States at the
end of the war and compare it to now. We only have to look at the
map of the world as it was when we signed the peace on the battleship
Missouri and compare it to the map now. Great areas with enormous
populations have fallen into the hands of the Reds, not through any
approximation to the democratic process, but through sheer power
pressures, by psychological warfare."
Even an ultimate superiority in military weapons may not be suffi-
cient to guarantee the survival of the United States, Mr. Hunter
cautioned.
"In Korea, we bad atomic weapons, but lost the war and were unable
to use those weapons because of a political and psychological climate
created by the Communists. The Kremlin today is fighting total war,
and this means total, not with weapons of physical destruction alone,
but mental destruction, too. The new weapons are for conquest
intact, of peoples and cities. The future Pearl Harbor sputnik will
be used if the situation demands it. But not unless the Kremlin has
first succeeded in conquering the character and minds of a large enough
element of the American people so that it will be fitting itself into the
desires and needs of the Communist apparatus, no matter whether
they think of themselves as Red or anti-Communist."
Mr. Hunter continued: "The most deadly misconception of all,
that requires a softening up in our thinking before we can make it,
is the idea that there are different kinds of communism, and that
besides international communism there is something called national
communism, which fundamentally differs. There is nothing of the
sort. We are again interpreting, on the basis of wishful thinking,
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what the Communists themselves are plainly saying. We base this
national communism conception on Titoism. Tito at no time dis-
owned or expressed doubt in any of the fundamental tenets of com-
munism, and he is today expending all the time he can in trying to
tell the world that lie believes in communism, intends Communist
objectives to win out in the long run all over the world. Communism
in this, too, has been able, as always, to get the help it needs from the
non-Communist and principally the anti-Communist world.
"Each time there has been a crisis in Soviet Russia, it could depend
on the outside world for help. Today, under the theory that there
are different forms of communism, and some Communist forms are
not really Communist, or are less Communist than others, we are
giving through aid programs and such propaganda assists as so-called
exchange scholarships, the help and sustenance that these Communist
countries require to survive. I have heard that under certain tech-
nical requirements of the law, completely fantastic statements have
come from the White House and the State Department that commu-
nism in Yugoslavia really isn't communism any more, and that
communism in Poland is not real communism. I thought we had
learned our lesson in China. We said that the communism of China,
the communism of Mao Tse-tung was not really communism. We
said it was not the communism of Moscow. Mao Tse-tung was saying
it was the same communism, exactly as Tito says that the Communist
ideology is basically the same everywhere, and that the objective for
a Communist world is identical."
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COMMUNIST PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE
(BRAINWASHING)
THURSDAY, MARCH 13, 1958
UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
COMMITTEE ON UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES,
Washington, D. C.
CONSULTATION
The following consultation with Edward Hunter, author and
foreign correspondent, was held at 10 a. in., March 13, 1958, in room
226, Old House Office Building, Washington, D. C., pursuant to the
authorization of the Committee on Un-American Activities com-
posed of:
MORGAN Al. MOULDER, Missouri BERNARD W. KEARNEY, New York
CLYDE DOYLE, California DONALD L. JACKSON, California
EDWIN E. WILLIS, Louisiana GORDON H. SCHERER, Ohio
WILLIAM M. TUCK, Virginia ROBERT J. McINTOSH, Michigan
Staff members present: Richard Arens, staff director, and William
F. Heimlich, consultant.
Mr. ARENS. The session today is the first in a series of consulta-
tions on the subject of the Communist psychological warfare which
the Committee on Un-American Activities has inaugurated.
We are pleased to welcome to the consultation today Mr. Edward
Hunter, whose distinguished career as foreign correspondent, author,
editor, world traveler, and specialist in psychological warfare emi-
nently qualifies him to speak authoritatively on the subject at hand.
STATEMENT OF EDWARD HUNTER
l'vir. ARENS. Mr. Hunter, may I ask you if you would kindly give
us for the purpose of this record a thumbnail sketch of your own
personal history?
Mr. HUNTER. I am a journalist whose career began on a newspaper
in New Jersey, the Newark Ledger, where I became news editor, then
went to Europe and joined the Chicago Tribune in Paris. After an
interlude on newspapers in America, I went to Japan to join the Japan
Advertiser, becoming its news editor.
A year later, I went to China and took over the Hankow Herald
from the Communists. The Reds had just left, and shopkeepers still
were talking of boxes of American dollars brought in by Moscow.
Colonel HEIMLICH. What year was that, Mr. Hunter?
Mr. HUNTER. Between 1926 and 1928. I remember events well,
but not their years.
Next I went to Peking to become managing editor of the Peking
Leader. I joined the Hearst newspaper syndicates in 1931, when the
"Manchuria Incident" began. I witnessed the creation of the puppet
state of Manchukuo. I accompanied the League of Nations mission
of inquiry in Manchuria and saw the coronation of Emperor Pu-yi,
now a prisoner of the Reds.
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Hearst's International News Service then sent me to Europe abou-
the time of the Reichstag fire and its fake trial. I covered the con-
quest of Ethiopia by the Italian Fascists, which took modern psycho-
logical warfare one step beyond Manchukuo: I also saw two civil
wars in Spain, the outbreak in the Basque territory and the big fight,
which was a rehearsal for World War II.
Back to Europe, I witnessed the intrigue in the various foreign offices
preceding the outbreak of hostilities. I saw the Nazis take back the
Rhineland, and how the Germany Army expected the French Govern-
ment under Premier Flandin to exhibit determination and show up Hit-
ler as a failure. Instead, it provided Hitler with a new demonstration
of seemingly inevitable victory, and World War II, of course, followed.
I returned to America just before World War II, joining the foreign
news desk of the New York Post. The Newspaper Guild then was
Communist-dominated. I set up a national committee to coordinate
the efforts of the various anti-Communist factions. For the first time
in the history of trade unionism in America, the entire executive
committee of a union was voted out, although all I did was simply
communicate with these anti-Communist units and let them know
they were not alone. This election restored the Newspaper Guild
to American instead of Moscow-orientated newspapermen.
Colonel HEIMLICH. When the war came along, Mr. Hunter, you
went into OSS, I understand.
Mr. HUNTER. Yes; as a propaganda specialist. I call that my
sabbatical year-really 2 years-away from journalism.
Colonel HEIMLICH. You covered a very broad area of Asia during
the war years, didn't you?
Mr. HUNTER. I was in what is generally known as the CBI theater:
China, Burma, and India.
Colonel HEIMLICH. Do you find a measurable difference between
the attitudes of the people during that period and the present?
Mr. HUNTER. During that period, America still had its old meaning
to the peoples of Asia as a symbol of hope that could be relied on to
help on a realistic basis.
Back on the New York Post after the war, I found myself in the
midst of a little cold war that perfectly reflected the big one. The
Post helped Wallace for President, and I got up a petition which almost
everybody on the staff signed, pointing out that this did not represent
our true feelings. The result was a thunderbolt to the lady who
owned the newspaper. She fired the executives and divorced her hus-
band, the publisher. He went out and started the pro-Red Compass.
I stayed on a while as foreign news editor, then returned to Asia
as roving correspondent for the Cox newspapers. I interviewed
Chinese who had escaped from the Red holocaust, witnessed the jungle
warfare in Malaya, and the war by terror in Indochina. I traveled
between Japan, Indonesia, and Burma. Recently I returned after a
year in Afghanistan.
Mr. ARENS. Mr. Hunter, how would you characterize the struggle
between the East and the West?
Mr. HUNTER. We do not have a war between the East and West,
Certainly the Filipinos are not in the West. They are mostly Asians.
like the peoples of Thailand, Iran, and Japan.
This expression, "the war between the East and the West," has
become a part of our thinking processes, an example of how a phrase
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can put great masses of people in a camp where they do not belong.
What we really have is a total war in which a pattern for conquest by
the Communist hierarchy is set up against the peoples of all countries
outside the Red orbit-no matter whether they call themselves anti-
Comniunist or neutralists.
Mr. ARENS. Who are the antagonists in this total war?
Mr. HUNTER. They are the Communists on the one side and all the
other peoples of the world on the other. The Reds have a very prac-
tical setup. The antagonists, in their view, are the two strongest ele-
ments: on the one side the Kremlin, on the other side the United States.
Mr. ARENS. When you say there is a total war, what do you mean?
It is obvious that there is very little shooting going on in the world
today. What are the devices of this total war?
Mr. HUNTER. War has changed its form. The Communists have
discovered that a man killed by a bullet is useless. He can dig no
coal. They have discovered that a demolished city is useless. Its
mills produce no cloth. The objective of Communist warfare is to
capture intact the minds of the people and their possessions, so they
can be put to use. This is the modern conception of slavery, that
puts all others in the kindergarten age.
Mr. ARENS. Where is this war being waged? Where are the battle-
fields? What are its geographical locations?
Mr. HUNTER. The battlefield is wherever there is no Red "peace."
Peace, in the Communist vocabulary, is the period when all have
accepted, in a so-called voluntary manner, the inevitability of a'
Communist world. The battlefields are all the countries which have
not yet fallen into this Red orbit. The weapons used in this war are
adjusted to the practical situation in each of those countries.
Mr. ARENS. What are those weapons?
Mr. HUNTER. They range from a smile and a "discussion meeting"
to a leaflet and a bullet.
Mr. ARENS. Is the United States part of this battlefield?.
Mr. HUNTER. The United States is the main battlefield in this
Red war. I mean specifically the people and the soil and the resources
of the United States.
It should be obvious to anyone who has observed the so-called cold
war that the United States is its principal target.. We need only read
what the Communists themselves say, but we refuse to do so, exactly
as we could not believe that Hitler meant what he said in Mein Kampf.
Mr. ARENS. Does this mean that the principal objective is to con-
vert the people of the United States to communism? Is their objec-
tive conversion, or subversion and conquest?
Mr. HUNTER. Since Hungary, the world should know that com-
munism is not an ideology except as a weapon for conquest. The
Red objective against the United States is not the conversion of the
American people to communism any more than it was to make true
Communists out of the American prisoners of war in Korea. The
Communist system is a power system, just as was that of Genghis
Khan. We now have the same invading armies, given a new, pious
political phraseology, making them hypocritical in a manner that the
original hordes never were. The objective of all Communist conquest
is simply use for power. They seek to conquer the -United States in a
manner so that it "voluntarily" falls into the Red orbit. If we have to
be conquered by destructive nuclear-age weapons, it will be considered
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a setback by the Kremlin. Their objective is to make the same use of
the American people as they make of the Czechs in the uranium
mines in Czechoslovakia, and as they make of the Chinese in the mills
of China. We are to become subjects of a "New World Order" for the
benefit of a mad little knot of despots in the Kremlin.
Mr. ARENS. On the basis of yourbackground and experience, and as an
intimate observer of this total war, Mr. Hunter, please express to us now
your best appraisal of who is winning and who is losing this total war?
Mr. HUNTER. I am always surprised to hear that question. People
at lectures and elsewhere frequently ask that of me, as if begging me to
say that we are winning. I wish I could, but one only has to think
of the position of the United States at the end of the war and compare
it to now. We only have to look at the map of the world as it was
when we signed the peace on the battleship Missouri and compare it
to the map now. Great areas with enormous populations have fallen
into the hands of the Reds, not through any approximation to the
democratic process, but through slicer power pressures, by psycho-
logical warfare. We are losing so fast that unless we put a very
drastic end to it, the question of who is winning will be academic in a
decade. People today also like to say, "This is a hundred-year war."
Human beings cannot remain in that sort of tenseness for a hundred
years, and the Soviet Russia regime knows it. We are being lulled into
feeling that although we are losing, we don't have to do anything about
it because by the time the situation reaches a climax we will be dead.
We may be dead, but it won't be the result of a natural death. I try
to avoid phrases such as "the clock is nearly striking 12," but there
are times when they are the best descriptions of a reality, and this is
one such time.
Mr. ARENS. Some may ask how can you say that, Mr. Hunter,
when we here in the United States are separated by thousands of miles
of ocean from any potential military aggressor, when we have such
military might and such apparent alertness to the potential threat of
an attack by guided missiles?
Mr. HUNTER. I wish we had alertness. We have everything except
alertness to the way the Kremlin is fighting this war. We are being
tremendously alert to the ways it is not fighting this war.
Mr. ARENS. What do you mean by that?
Mr. HUNTER. In Korea, we had atomic weapons, but lost the war
and were unable to use those weapons because of a political and psycho-
logical climate created by the Communists. The Kremlin today is
fighting total war, and this means total, not with weapons of physical
destruction alone, but mental destruction, too. The new weapons
are for conquest intact, of peoples and cities. The future Pearl Harbor
sputnik will be used if the situation demands it. But not unless the
Kremlin has first succeeded in conquering the character and minds of
a large enough element of the American people so that it will be fitting
itself into the desires and needs of the Communist apparatus, no
matter whether they think of themselves as Red or anti-Communist.
Mr. ARENS. What is the nature of the victories which are being
won by the international Communist apparatus in the United States?
Mr. HUNTER. The first battles in this total war have already been
won by the forces of international communism in the United States.
These victories are identical to those they have won in every country
which they have ultimately taken over. They have succeeded in soft
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ening up a large element of the American population, particularly
among those to whom we look for guidance, our so-called intellectuals
and our so-called liberal circles. They have succeeded in making the
United States think and talk of a coexistence period as if that were
an end in itself; while in other parts of the world, as in India, the
Reds frankly explain that this coexistence is merely intended to give
the Americans an easy way to choose them road toward communism.
This is strategy. The Kremlin is merely giving the United States
a choice of surrendering by voluntary change of attitude, to avoid
more destructive ways of surrender. Unfortunately, in the United
States, large elements, mainly among our non-Communist population,
have been softened up into believing that if we can just stall on this
situation, it will take care of itself. The Reds have succeeded in
inducing business communities to look to Soviet trade as a means of
restoring prosperity. Large business elements, with all their financial
and other resources, are now being used to help the Communist objec-
tive of softening up America for recognition and acceptance of Red
China, for instance.
This Communist offensive has a double objective. One is the sof-
tening up, first stage of this total war. The other is to convince the
peoples in their own Red-dominated countries that there is no hope.
Since the Hungarian revolt, nobody in a Communist country thinks
any longer of a Red ideology, but only of Red power. The over-
whelming mass of people are against communism in each Red country,
including Red China and Red Russia. The only me'ins by which
these people can be discouraged from overthrowing their despots is
by convincing them that they stand all alone; that the free world has
accepted communism as inevitable.
American students, professors, and businessmen who wander
through Red countries, in the eyes of the people there, confirm the
Communist propaganda line that there is no hope; that the free world,
especially America, the symbol of the free world, has given in to the
Reds. That was the Communist purpose at the much-publicized
Bandung Conference, when the Asian and African countries met. The
broadcasts to the people of China by the Peking regime stressed that
all this proved that the outside world had recognized that Red China is
here to stay. Any time an American student walks down a street in
Red China, he is conveying one message to the silenced people who
see him, and that is, "Don't look to the outside world, don't look to
America, for help in your hour of need. We have let you down. We are
betraying you." There is no hate so fierce as the hate of a friend who
feels he has been betrayed, and that is the theme of the whole world
Communist propaganda program today; to convince the people inside
communism, who hate it, that we have betrayed them, while convinc-
ing the people outside of the Communist world, principally in America,
that there is a future for what they call, in their doubletalk, coexistence.
Mr. ARENS. What is your reaction to the suggestions which we now
hear from many quarters that the United States of America through
its leaders sit down at a conference table with Kruschchev and his
associates and work out an agreement or agreements of some kind
to solve this impasse?
Mr. HUNTER. You can always sit down around a green table with
the Communists and negotiate anything you wish, so long as it does
not require actual concessions by the Communist world, but requires
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only such concessions by ourselves. That has been the uninterrupted
record of such negotiations with the Reds.
Mr. ARENS. What, in your judgment, would be the result of another
summit meeting?
Mr. HUNTER. The same as all such meetings in the past, only on
an aggravated scale. We had a Geneva Conference. The results
were broadcast throughout Asia as a stunning defeat for the free
world. The results in actual conquest, the taking over of non-Com-
munist areas by the Communists, were visible to anyone who compared
maps. The Geneva Conference was a surrender. Its "spirit of Ge-
neva," which Prime Minister Nehru holds forth as the pattern to be
followed by us in the future, meant no more than piecemeal surrender.
The Reds will always give up something that is a paper promise, no
matter what, in exchange for something tangible. We still accept
paper promises as equivalent to what is tangible. So long as we con-
tinue in that delusion, such conferences serve only the purpose of
continued chiseling away of parts of the free world.
Mr. ARENS. Let us return to what you have characterized as the
battleground in the United States in this total war, Mr. Hunter. It is
quite obvious that there is no shooting going on in the United States.
What is going on here that you can characterize or describe?
Mr. HUNTER. I spent 30 years, a little bit more perhaps, in countries
under various forms of Communist pressure and attack. What I am
witnessing in America is no different from what I saw in those other
countries. I am often referred to as someone who has made phenom-
enal predictions that proved correct on things to come. Actually;
I have never made a prediction as such in my life. I have only
predicted in the manner that one predicts the total of 4 after seeing
the figures 2 plus 2.
I have been watching developments under communism in other
parts of the world, and now I see exactly the same developments
here in America.
Mr. ARENS. What are those developments?
Mr. HUNTER. They include, first of all, the penetration of our
leadership circles by a softening up and creating a defeatist state of
mind. This includes penetration of our educational circles by a
similar state of mind, in addition to one other thing-the long-range
perspective of the professor who is above anything that is happening
here and now, and considers himself as an objective spectator in a long,
long vista of history. I see primarily, as part of this softening up
process in America, the liquidation of our attitudes on what we used to
recognize as right and wrong, what we used to accept as absolute moral
standards. We now confuse moral standards with the sophistication
of dialectical materialism, with a Communist crackpot theology which
teaches that everything changes, and that what is right or wrong,
good or bad, changes as well. So nothing they say ?is really good or
bad. There is no such thing as truth or a lie; and any belief we actually
held was simply our being unsophisticated. They don't say this in
so many words, except to those who are already indoctrinated in
communism. What they do say to the rest of us is to be objective;
and then they twist that word "objective" into meaning what they
mean by dialectical materialism.
Mr. ARENS. Is this weakening in America coincidental with the
Communist drive, or in your opinion, is it concocted and deliberate?
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\lr. I; UNTER. Even the most naive among us can no longer believe
that Communist international policy is set up for all the world except
the United States. We have ample evidence in every country that
has fallen under communism or which is under attack by communism,
such as Malaya today, that the stages in this softening up process,
which is part of their total war, did not just happen. They were
planned by a political and military strategy board. They have their
same strategy, with the same planning, in the United States as they
had in China, and as they are doing in Malaya, and as they have done
everywhere they have conquered.
Mr. ARENS. What is the mechanism in the United States?
Mr. HUNTER. We are again talking of the obvious, except that it is
obvious on so bold and broad a scale that we "just can't believe it."
How often I hear that soporific phrase. The mechanism in the
United States operates in exactly the same way as elsewhere.
In Korea, we persisted in talking of just a Korean war. The
Communists never talked of just a Korean war; they talked of an
all-Asia war. The advantage they derived from this was decisive.
Whereas the British were dealing simply with a Malaya war, and the
French with an Indochina war, and the Americans with a Korean
war, the Communists were dealing with one front and one war, and
moved their propaganda and fighting forces around according to the
need. The United States has a Communist Party, and those who say
that this is a weak party simply because it doesn't have millions of
members are deceiving themselves. This committee has produced
volumes and volumes which prove the existence of fifteen or twenty
thousand hardshell Communists in the United States, with a knot of
hard-core Communist leaders. A huge, bulky party , would not
achieve the results they can. A small, powerfully knit element that
can manipulate the non-Communist elements in the population is
located in our nerve centers, where they can first paralyze us, and
then defeat us.
Mr. ARENS. How would you characterize the Communist Party in
the United States?
Mr. HUNTER. It is superficially a joke; but behind the facade are
the real Communist operators. They know exactly what they are
doing, and they adapt exactly what they are doing to the require-
ments and strategy of world communism. The Communist Party of
America is simply one of the fingers on the two hands of world com-
munism, and operates just as obediently to the mind of communism.
We are again engaging in doublet.alk when we talk of the Communist
"Party." There is no such thing as a Communist Party, if by party
we mean what our dictionaries call a party. It is a Communist con-
spiracy, a Communist psychological warfare organization. The Com-
munists derive their strength in America from their unity with world
communism, and from their ability both in clandestine and overt
circles to pull the strings for the non-Communists, and even for the
anti-Communists. I am not afraid of Communists alone. Com-
munists have never been able to achieve anything without a front.
The communism that wins is always the communism that makes the
non-Communist its ally; by non-Communist I don't necessarily mean
fellow travelers. I mean non-Communists who allow themselves to
be trapped by Communist strate,-N-. We see that operating today in
official and business circles, which are essentially anti-Communist.
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The business circles that do so, have the false hope that there will be
tremendous trade available, that the entire automobile industry of
America will find great new markets in Red China, and that two fami-
lies of nations, Communist and non-Communist, can work together.
That is merely a restoration under different terminology of what was so
disastrous to us at the end of World War II, when we were told that
Mao Tse-tung and the Communists of China were not really Com-
munists, but only agrarian reformers, sort of Chinese New Dealers,
who thought and reacted the same as we.
Mr. ARENS. On the basis of your background and experience, please
tell us what part of this total warfare is psychological?
Mr. HUNTER. Since man began, he has tried to influence other men
or women to his way of thinking. There have always been these
forms of pressure to change attitudes. Atrocities were the simplest
channel through which people were forced in the old days to change
their minds. Often they didn't change their minds, but acted as if
they did, which had the same result, and, as time went on, the new
thoughts often actually came to be believed. There has been a re-
markable difference developing in the last 30 years or so, which makes
this as different from modern psychological warfare as the airplane is
from a cannon. I have heard it said that the airplane is the same as
the cannon; it merely brings a shell a longer distance before dropping
it somewhere. That is sheer sophism. The moment we discovered
how to rise and remain above the earth, we had achieved something
fundamentally new. It was no longer a cannon. It was an airplane.
The same is true with modern psychological warfare. We discovered
in the past 30 years a technique to influence, by clinical, hospital
procedures, the thinking processes of human beings.
The basis for modern psychological warfare, which makes it different
from whatever was done in the past, are the findings of the Russian
physiologist, Pavlov. He was not a Communist. He had completed
his most important discoveries before the Communists took power.
His first discovery was the effectiveness of using a living animal in
experiments, rather than a dead animal. His second great discovery
was that the instincts of an animal, that we call reflexes, were of two
kinds. One was the reflexes which the animal was born with, its uncon-
ditioned reflexes. The other was its conditioned reflexes, which man
can train into the animal. Most of us have heard of Pavlov's experi-
ments with dogs and lights. He first provided a bowl of food and
turned on a light of a certain color, then an empty bowl and turned
on a different colored light. After he had done this a number of times,
he turned on the light that accompanied the food, but presented an
empty bowl to the animal, and the dog deposited just as much saliva
as when the bowl was full. When he presented a bowlful of food with
the wrong light, the animal did not eat. After he switched the lights
and the bowls of food, the animal became neurotic, barked, was driven
into a state which among human beings we call insanity.
When the Communist hierarchy in Moscow discovered that it was
unable to persuade people willingly to follow communism, when they
found that they could not create what they wanted, the "new Soviet
man" in which human nature would be changed, they turned to
Pavlov and his experiments. They considered people the same
as animals anyway, and refused to recognize. the role of reason or
divinity in a human being. They took over the Pavlovian experiments
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on animals and extended them to people. They did so' with the
objective of changing human nature and creating a "new Soviet
man." People, they anticipated, would react voluntarily under
Pavlovian pressures, in the way the dog does, to Communist orders,
exactly as ants do in their collectivized society.
Mr. AREns. What were the results of their application of these
techniques to people?
Mr. HUNTER. We have been witnessing the results without knowing
how they came about for 30 years and more. We saw the first results
in the Moscow trials, when the Old Bolsheviks, who had dedicated
their lives to Communist ideology and had successfully captured
the Russian Revolution away from the democratic elements, appeared
in open court and beat their breasts and pleaded for execution as
traitors to the Bolshevism they had set up. We heard confessions
that came from the mouths of these people, but which made no
sense to us because they fit into no logical framework that we could
recognize as true. We saw such developments go on, not only with
a small group of people picked for trial, but in a curiously similar
fashion with large parts of the population in Communist areas, in their
schools and in their villages. We saw the fine brain of Cardinal
Mindrizenty cracked in open court, and heard him brand himself
everything we all knew the cardinal was not.
Against all this background that I had obtained as a foreign cor-
respondent abroad, when I returned to Asia after World War II, I
began to observe an unmistakable pattern in these strange, Communist
psyychological victories. These successes were being obtained not
only with individuals, but, in a very peculiar fashion, with masses of
people. I came upon the pattern itself as a result of the use of this
strategy in a careless manner by the Chinese Communist Government
against the conquered people of China. I later saw it used in similarly
crude fashion a ainst American prisoners of war in Korea.
Mr. ARENS. Would you then kindly give us the benefit of your,
observations, first, in the use of this technique by the Chinese Com-
munist Government against its people; and then, secondly, in the use
against the American prisoners of war?
Mr. HUNTER. I am very glad you asked me first to talk about what.
I saw being done to the people of China, because that puts it in its
proper context. While I was in Hong Kong, soon after the fall of the
mainland, I interviewed Chinese who had fled from the mainland, all
of whom expressed themselves in a strange but very similar fashion.
I was stunned to hear them telling me things I had heard before. I
had that weird feeling once, while interviewing a schoolteacher who
had fled from the interior of China, after welcoming the Red Army
into his city and facilitating its capture of the city. He had found
out in time how different the Reds are to how they picture themselves,
and he had escaped. As I was taking notes, I felt that I had written
all this before, and yet how could I have done so? I had only recently
returned to Hong Kong. Then it suddenly struck me. Some years
before, I had interviewed one of the heads of the faculty of Leningrad
University, who had escaped from Russia. This schoolteacher from
the interior of China was telling me exactly what I had heard from the,
Russian professor of a different culture, many tens of thousands of
miles away.. I had that same eerie feeling often during that period,'
of different stories being related in some strange manner. In the
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jungles of Malaya, I came across the diaries taken from the bodies of
slain Chinese guerrilla fighters. I had a number translated. To my
amazement, I read exactly what I had heard from these people who
had fled from China. The same "discussion meetings" that were
held in the schools and factories of Red China, I now read about in
these diaries as being held beneath a knot of tall trees inside the jungle.
In Indochina, I covered the trials of some of the terrorists who had
engaged in such propaganda warfare pressures as rolling a hand
grenade down the aisle of a children's cinema when a Walt Disney
movie was being shown. Those on trial spoke the same language,
with the same expressions and the same explanations as I had heard
from Red China, and had read in the diaries kept by the guerrillas in
Malaya. A set of Soviet Chinese textbooks were smuggled out of
China for me. They were being used in every school from Dairen in
Manchuria to Canton in the south. I came across the same teachings
as I heard in the interviews, read in the diaries and listened to at the
trials. One day I interviewed secretly a young man who had come
out of Red China on a mission. I had known his family. During the
interview, he used the phrase "hsi nao" or "wash brain." I immedi-
ately stopped him, asking what he meant. He laughed and said,
"Oh, that's nothing; it's only something we say when close relatives
or friends get together." When somebody said something the Peiping
Government wouldn't like, a relative or friend was liable to say to him,
"Watch out, you'll get your brains washed." That was the first time I
heard the word "brainwashing." I was the first to use the word in
writing in any language, and the first to use it in speech in any language
except for that small group of Chinese. That word and its connota-
tion, against this background that I had been weaving ever since I
started in journalism, especially during the years since the civil war in
China became acute, was like a streak of lightning, clarifying the
pattern of which I had already discerned its shadows. Brainwashing
was the new procedure, built up out of all earlier processes of persua-
sion, using the Pavlovian approach to make people react in a way
determined by a central authority, exactly as bees in a hive.
Mr. ARENS. And now will you kindly recount your experiences and
observations of brainwashing in Korea?
Mr. HUNTER. The Korean war began after my discovery of brain-
washing. That is very significant. Before I went ' to Korea, I had
engaged in intensive research directly related to this word "brain-
washing," because I wanted to know exactly the content of the word.
I found it was a strategy for the conquest of the world by communism,
that it was not merely another tactic, but was the framework for the
entire activity of the Communist hierarchy. I was so impressed
with the importance of this discovery that I wrote a book on it called
Brain-Washing in Red China, in which I made no effort to do any
special interpreting, but merely outlined as plainly as I could the
various elements that went into brainwashing. For the first time,
our side now had the pattern through which the international Com-
munist movement had made its advance throughout the world. I
wrote about brainwashing in newspaper articles and for a magazine
before I did the book. Then I went to Korea, where' I found that
the same pattern that I had seen everywhere else was being followed
by the Communists. I heard of American captured personnel broad-
casting denunciations of their own country and confessing to a non-
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existent germ warfare in a manner and in a language that fit exactly
into the brainwashing pattern that I had found in China and the rest
of Asia.
Mr. ARENS. Exactly what is this brainwashing?
Mr. HUNTER. A more exact term in the military lexicon would be
"mind attack." We are accustomed to such terms as infantry attack,
naval attack, air attack. Mind attack simply recognizes a new
dimension to the kinds of war used against armies on the field or
against peaceful populations.
Brainwashing consists of two processes, a softening up and an
indoctrination process. Each of these is formed out of a set of different
elements. I listed them in my second book, Brainwashing: The
Story of Men Who Defied It-
as hunger, fatigue, tenseness, threats, violence, and in more intense cases where the
Reds have specialists available on their brainwashing panels, drugs, and hypnotism.
No one of these elements alone can be regarded as brainwashing, any
more than an apple can be called an apple pie. Other ingredients
have to be added, and a cooking process gone through. So it is in
brainwashing with indoctrination or atrocities, or any other single
ingredient.
The moment we think of brainwashing as only one of the elements
of which it is composed, we no longer have brainwashing, any more
than we have a pumpkin pie from pumpkin alone.
Mr. ARENS. Now, specifically what happened to the American
prisoners in Korea?
Mr. HUNTER. Let me quote from a newspaper dispatch from the
New York Times of January 6, 1957, sent out from Washington by
the Associated Press 2 days before. The subject was our new troop
indoctrination program, based on the Code of Honor that President
Eisenhower proclaimed on August 17, 1955. The figures were taken
from official accounts.
Here is what the article says:
Never before in history had so many captured Americns gone to the aid of the enemy.
For 2 years the services studied the records of the prisoners. What they found
was not pretty.
A total of 7,190 Americans were captured. Of these, 6,656 were Army troops,
263 were airmen, 231 Marines, 40 Navy men.
In every war in American history some men have managed to escape. Korea
was the exception.
Roughly 1 of every 3 American prisoners collaborated with the Communists in
some way, either as informers or as propagandists.
In the 20 prison camps, 2,730 of the 7,190 Americans died, the highest mortality
rate among prisoners in United States history. Many of them died unncessarily.
They either did not know how to take care of themselves or they just lay down
and quit. Some sick or wounded died of malnutrition, abandoned by their
comrades.
Discipline among Americans was almost nonexistent. It was a case of dog eat
dog for food, cigarettes, blankets, clothes.
For the first time in history Americans-21 of them-swallowed the enemy's
propaganda line and declined to return to their own people.
This is only part of the picture. A glimpse.
Mr. ARENS. What were the techniques used?
Mr. HUNTER. The Communist inquisitors in the POW camps de-
pended first of all on a screening process to provide them With the
men most likely to succumb to brainwashing. They picked the ones
they figured would be most useful to them from among these. Cunning
was all that was needed, along with a complete disregard for ethics; no.
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special intelligence. This should be stressed. They have based their
technique primarily on the complete abandonment of morality. That
is their contribution to world thought.
There can be no doubt that they had Communist underground
guidance in this work in the United States, through the party and Red
agents. They were well prepared ahead for all phases of the Korean
war, while we allowed ourselves to be caught unawares, as if by intent.
They sized up each prisoner's character to find out whether he
carried a grudge against his superiors, his neighbors, or society in
general, or whether he made an intellectual fetish out of objectivity,
indoctrinated by his own side in concentrating on the good points on
every side, so he could "get along" with everybody and not be "anti-
social." The most effective trick in the Communist indoctrination
process was to exploit this quack liberal and make-believe tolerant
approach by equating what was the exception on the one side with
what was typical on the other, and reaching the conclusion from that
basis that both were alike. If the prisoner was the quite usual type
we had been developing, who had been brought up just to ask, "What's
in it for me?" he was considered particularly a fine prospect.
The Communist interrogators, as the brainwashers called them-
selves, sought to remove a man's trust in his own side, and to convince
him that he was being let down and even betrayed by his own country
and relatives, especially by his wife or girl friend. The Reds sought
to deprive him of all hope. Once they could accomplish this, they
presented themselves to him as his new friends, as "Big Brother,"
who would always stand by him through thick and thin, who would
always love him. The cruelties they had perpetrated on him they
now interpreted as the discipline of a kindly father.
They took sly advantage of our shocking failure even to make an
attempt to communicate with our captured men, or to try to free any
of them. Even a failure would have been better for morale than utter
silence which, under the circumstances, looked as if we didn't care.
The Red indoctrinators built up this impression and fit it into their
pattern of selfish, imperialist America led by bloated Wall Street
financiers who were using our people as cannon fodder.
They had a Roman holiday over our failure even to tell our men
why they were being sent to Korea to fight. When I was in Korea
as a foreign correspondent, a high Army officer once came to me and
pleaded with me to tell him what he was doing in Korea. He knew
that the Red propagandists were spreading their reasons for him to
be there, even among his own men, .and he had no answers to their
questions. "Nobody tells me anything," he said. This man had a
heroic fighting record in the Normandy landings and was a career
officer. There was no question of his sincerity and patriotism. Yet
how could he have been expected to stand up against brainwashing?
He was typical of those who were captured, who had not been told
why they were fighting in Korea, or anything about the nature of
communism. The Red inquisitors filled the gap for these men, as
possibly their most effective work.
The Reds presented their version of why the Americans had come
and in default of any other information it upset many of the men.
Even when they kept quiet, they couldn't stop worrying over what the
Reds said. Half-truths and even entire lies sounded convincing to men
who had no knowledge of the situation at all. The inquisitors gave our
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men nothing to think of except communism. How were our boys to
know that this was one of the Red techniques to break them down?
The Reds selected Americans who had fine intelligence quotients,
but with poor education. Their heads were like a good, solid but
empty bucket, only waiting to be filled. The Reds did so with their
own slanted material. They deprived all these men of reading matter
except what was pro-Red, and gave them plenty of that, and lots of
time in which to read it. They especially fed the boys the writings of
pro-Communist Americans. One of the most corrosive publications
was a magazine called The China ' Zonthly Review, published by
American pro-Communists at Shanghai. The nien couldn't get over
the shock of an American-edited magazine being put out in Red
China. They read it out of indignation or curiosity, and because
they had nothing else to do. The smoothly written poisons caught
them by utter surprise, leaving a deep impression on their minds. In
a number of cases, it was the decisive factor in their softening up.
The enemy didn't neglect the indoctrination process, but used it
simultaneously. The one thing the prisoners least expected was to
come into a classroom atmosphere. Yet this was what the Commu-
nists endeavored to create. Americans respect learning and have been
taught to gather it everywhere they can, and also to see all sides of
every question. Unfortunately, they have been taught this objec-
tivity in a salesmanship context in which the principal axiom is, "The
customer is always right." They were first seduced into accepting
something superficial about communism with which they agreed,
which they would admit was good. They had no way of checking up.
The indoctrinators depended on their one-sided control of information
and their doctrinal skill in subterfuge i nd doubletalk to soon have
these men admitting that white was black, and war was peace, in the
semantics of the Newspeak language described with such genius by
George Orwell in his book, 1984.
Perhaps the best illustration of the pressures put on our troops was
given to me by an Air Force officer named Capt. Zach W. Dean. - He
was taken on a "death march" and put in a Korean hut and left to
hunger and freeze while the Reds harassed him with threats and pro-
paganda and what they called "learning," until he became so weak
and sick that he felt he was going to die. At once the Communists
changed their tactic, providing him with vitamin tablets and injections,
good enough food, and kindiv words, until they saved his life. A few
weeks passed and the cat-and-mouse game switched back once more.
He was again put under the brainwashing pressures. He became sick
again, catching pneumonia on top of another case of freezing. De-
prived of all attention, he was positive lie was going to die this time.
Then once more they switched moods, and lie was given the best
available of everything, and again his life was saved. Zach knew
what a deep study I had made of all this. I can never forget the look
he gave me when lie told me about it, saying, ".Mr. Hunter, I don't
believe you'll be able to understand what I'm going to tell you now.
After the Reds do that to you a few times, you are grateful to them
for saving your life. You forget that they are the people who almost
killed you."
That is the Red technique used on all occasions under every sort
of circumstance, from a POW camp to a United Nations session or a
Geneva conference.
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No man has ever been brainwashed whose mind has not first been
put into a fog. That is the objective of all the Red pressures from
group hunger to a "study group." The patient first has to be deprived
of his bearings, to be shaken loose from whatever belief and convictions
he formerly held, until he loses faith in them entirely. We contributed
to the enemy's success by bringing up our young men and''women
without real convictions except to "get ahead." The obvious way to
"get ahead" in POW camp was to play along with the Communists.
Hungry, tired, sick, worried, and hopeless, the prisoner's mind could
not be expected to work well. He was caught off guard. The Reds
first lured the individual into believing the Red tenet in the pseudo-
scientific Marxian philosophy which teaches constant change, even in
such basic conceptions as truth and falsity, good and bad. The Reds
were helped in putting this across by comparing it to our tolerance
and liberalism. Where convictions were already worn thin by their
upbringing, the line became blurred until these noble traits were
twisted out of shape by becoming tolerance for evil and the inability
to distinguish between a college huddle back home and a brainwashing
session in a POW camp.
Note that I use the word "patient" in referring to the prisoner. I do
so deliberately, because brainwashing can only be properly understood
from the clinical viewpoint; it is a treatment, as evil as a black mass.
Brain-Washing in Red China had been published in sufficient time to
warn our troops about this procedure. It was recommended for the-
book kits and approved by all concerned. Somehow, influences from
the woodwork prevented it from being distributed to the men. After
the release of the POW's, I felt sick at heart to hear them tell me how
much suffering it could have saved them, and how many could have
preserved themselves from falling into a treasonable situation, if they
had only read that book. "Why wasn't I told?" was their agonizing
question to me.
Mr. ARENS. What significance do you attach to the brainwashing
episodes in Korea?
Mr. HUNTER. We have been so overwhelmed by the shock of what
took place in those brainwashing cells in Korea that we forget that
this was not the first time it was used in a concentrated way. Remem-
ber, I had started writing a book about it even before the Korean war
started.
The Reds always operate with an immediate as well as a long-range
objective. They have a worldwide objective for brainwashing, ust as
they had a local objective in the POW camps; the same as they have a
global operation going on all the time in brainwashing, adjusted in
Communist countries to their own people as in Red China, and in
non-Communist countries to the non-Communist peoples, as in the
United States. In the POW camps, they put their emphasis on the
softening up process, exactly as they are doing now in America,
because that was what gave them what they wanted at once for the
immediate needs of the war. A great proportion of people in the
POW camps, as in any Communist country, did not believe the Red
line, and never did believe it. We should not regard this as proof that
the Communists failed, which some of us are doing, but as indication
of the Communist technique. They never expected the mass of
soldiers to be Communists. They didn't need them as true believers.
It wasn't necessary.
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Hungary has shown an example of a population which appeared
satisfied with the Red control, seeming to believe in its doctrines. In
Hungary, we saw overnight the people who acted and talked as if they,
were Communists reveal themselves as unbelievers, furiously fighting
to the death with their bare hands against communism. Yet, such a
population is pointed out as pro-Red. What is important to the Com-
munist hierarchy from its power standpoint is that others act and
talk as pro-Reds. This is what happened inside the POW camps.
Very few people in any Communist country are Red. We should
never forget this. The Reds believe basically in power, in what indi-
viduals say and what they do. So long as people do what they are
told, and go through the verbalisms and motions attached to belief,
that is satisfactory to a power faction such as the Kremlin constitutes.
This is the immediate short-range objective.
A certain element must become deeply indoctrinated, especially
those who have thrown their interests irrevocably into the Red camp,
and these constitute the activists, the hard core of the party. They
are a small minority, and the constant purges even in their ranks shows
how untrustworthy even these are.
In any area under communism, so long as the Reds are able to
maintain a controlled environment, and are indisputably in power, the
population comes to talk and act pro-Communist. The people follow
orders, even to the expression of the Communist point of view. That
is how it is in any Communist country, and how it was in the POW
environment. After all, a nation under communism is a prison state,
and its people do not live under any essentially different conditions.
The Communist hierarchy well knows that its brainwashing is only
skin deep in the overwhelming number of cases, and can be depended
on only so long as the individual can be kept isolated from outside
information or influence. That is the significance of the Iron Curtain,
as true for a Red satellite as for a POW enclosure. Once the POW
reached the fresh air of the free world, of course the poisons usually
began to leave his system. So it is with anyone from a Communist
country, and is why the normal individual is not allowed out of his
native land except when he leaves his loved ones behind as hostages,
or his return is otherwise assured. Indoctrination in the majority of
cases does not bring about true belief, but only submission.
We shouldn't allow ourselves to be misled or lured into inaction by
this, for it makes little difference to the issue at the time whether the
man who is lecturing on how he dropped germs on a peaceful popula'-.
tion believes he did or doesn't. When the desired effect on the
audience is achieved, the result is the same. That is what the
Communists mean by power politics. By the time the audience
learns differently, the Reds will have achieved their end.
If we deal with such Red-dominated populations as our enemy,
refusing to recognize our secret allies, we will be defeating ourselves,
making our collapse sure in this sleepy, coexistence era, with or without
the need for a sputnik Pearl Harbor.
Mr. ARExs. Is this technique used by the Communists applicable.
to areas and circumstances other than as between a captor and
prisoner?
Mr. HUNTER.. Unfortunately for the Korean POW's, and unhappily
for civilian foreigners and especially the inhabitants of Red countries,
knowledge of brainwashing was kept quite secret until near the end of
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the Korean war. Only the determined efforts of the released POW's
succeeded in breaking through that partly concocted, partly bureau-
cratic curtain. Brainwashing was being successfully hushed up the
same way as information about the tremendous slave labor camps in
the U. S. S. R.
This delay in revealing brainwashing left the public with a twisted
conception of it. People still think it has something to do only with
prisoners of war, and possibly foreigners put under arrest. They still
don't conceive of it as having to do with the populations of Com-
munist countries. I've told that in my two books on brainwashing,
but try to find them in your bookshops or even in most public libraries.
They are high up on recommended lists for libraries and schools, as
has been read into the Congressional Record. Brainwashing only
incidentally concerns military prisoners or foreigners. This strategy
of mind attack is aimed principally at the inhabitants of Communist
countries, and has as its objective a forced change in their nature to
make them over into "new Soviet men."
This is the true character of mind attack, which the Reds have
succeeded in hiding. Those who pretend that American prisoners
were not submitted to brainwashing either have to deny that the
people under communism were put under these pressures, or else
hush up the details. My original brainwashing findings were based
on what was happening to civilians on the Chinese mainland. I wrote
about the brainwashing of Chinese officials, teachers, and merchants-
all ordinary folk. What they underwent, the American and British
troops did later on in Korea. I will never forget the amazement
that spread over the faces of released POW's when they first saw this
book, and the relief it gave many who still felt sick over their expe-
rience. As the liberal book reviewer, Sterling North, wrote:
Why * * * do the books revealing these truths get so little notice in the New
York press and so modest a play in the bookstores? Terror is terror, no matter
who perpetrates it. Unless we are to be known as a nation of hypocrites, the time
has come to drop our blinders.
He wrote this in 1952, and the hush-hush continues in 1958. Those
blinders are still over our eyes. Persistence in bringing out such
facts, as this committee is doing, is the main obstacle to the success
of the Communist psychological warfare techniques. You are doing
a work which if left undone would leave our country helpless and
betrayed before a new nuclear age sneak attack. The wonder is not
that you are the butt of a subtle campaign to put you out of existence,
but that it isn't even more intensified. Take pride in it.
We should not lose sight of the significant fact that the pressures
used between captor and prisoner in the POW camps were identical
to those utilized in Red China between Communist Party interro-
gators and the people. The Chinese population, the Russian popu-
lace, the Hungarians, and the inhabitants of the other satellite
countries are all under the same treatment, and are our secret allies.
The major objective of the Red network is to make us betray them.
The issue, for instance, is not representation in the U. N. and at
Washington for 600 million Chinese by Peking, but their misrepre-
sentation. That is what is being urged, and the stakes are high;
either their help in overthrowing our common foe, or their blind fury
against us for letting them down when they needed us most.
The similarity between the treatment given to military prisoners
and to their own people by the Red hierarchy is perhaps the most
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convincing evidence we can find of the callousness and inhumanity
with which a Communist regime regards its own people.
The routine in the so-called "learning" classes for the faculty of
any Chinese Communist school or government bureau, factory or
business establishment, was identical to that in the POW camps,
with the identical stages that progressed through the writing of biog-
raphies and self-criticisms, along with diaries that had to be made
available to the indoctrinators, to intermittent confessions and the
ultimate indecent and humiliating disrobing of minds in an enforced
mental orgy called "thought conclusions."
These were all the same in essence, the only difference being in the
greater or less stress put on the various elements that constitute
brainwashing, according to the needs of the particular environment.
In a Red community, such pressures as hunger and fatigue, threats
and violence, are enforced as a way of life, through the manipulation
of an artificially maintained low standard of living. Exactly as they
dare not do away with the conditioned environment, popularly known
as the Iron Curtain, the Red governments dare not permit their
people to eat and sleep well, and to have unimpeded leisure, any more
than in the POW camps. The people of a Red country are considered
just as much as enemies by the Communist hierarchy as were the
American and British POW's in Korea.
Incalculable tens of millions of Chinese people have been arrested
by the Mao Tse-tung regime on political charges since the fall of the
mainland, and a horrible percentage of them killed. They all had to
attend "learning" classes the same as the POW's. All the Chinese,
people who have not been imprisoned also have had to undergo this
clinical form of "learning," which is obligatory for every human
being on the Chinese mainland.
The word "learning" should be in quotation marks, because it is a
bizarre example of Red semantics. The word is written in Chinese
with a different character than the ordinary word "learning,"
although pronounced the same, and means only political learning from
the Communist point of view. Those who translate the word without
revealing this are abetting the Communist propaganda intent.
We're almost trapped into doing it whether we like it or not. That is
Red semantics, the most effective of the tools utilized in brainwashing.
Mr. ARE\s. Do you have a specific illustration of the way in which
the leadership in our Nation has been duped or brainwashed with
reference to the international Communist conspiracy?
)Jr. HUNTER. The most deadly misconception of all, that requires a
softening up in our thinking before we can make it, is the idea that
there are different kinds of communism, and that besides international
communism there is something called national communism, which
fundamentally differs. There is nothing of the sort. We are again
interpreting, on the basis of wishful thinking, what the Communists
themselves are plainly saying. We base this national communism
conception on Titoism. Tito at no time disowned or expressed doubt
in any of the fundamental tenets of communism, and he is today
expending all the time he can in trying to tell the world that he believes
in communism, intends Communist objectives to win out in the long
run all over the world. Communism in this, too, has been able, as
always, to get the help it needs from the non-Communist and princi-
pally the anti-Communist world.
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Each time there has been a crisis in Soviet Russia, it could depend
on the outside world for help. Today, under the theory that there are
different forms of communism, and some Communist forms are not
really Communist, or are less Communist than others, we are giving
through aid programs and such propaganda assists as so-called ex-
change scholarships, the help and sustenance that these Communist
countries require to survive. I have heard that under certain tech-
nical requirements of the law, completely fantastic statements have
come from the White House and the State Department that com-
munism in Yugoslavia really isn't communism any more, and that
communism in Poland is not real communism. I thought we had
learned our lesson in China. We said that the communism of China,
the communism of Mao Tse-tung, was not really communism. We
said it was not the communism of Moscow. Mao Tse-tung was say-
ing it was the same communism, exactly as Tito says that the Com-
munist ideology is basically the same everywhere, and that the ob-
jective for a Communist world is identical. Yet we insist on saying
that Tito and Mao Tse-tung, just as Hitler, did not mean what they
were doing their best to say they did mean.
Mr. ARENs. What can we do about it?
Mr. HUNTER. First of all, we have to begin by realizing that we are
very, very late. The Communists have been operating for a full gen-
eration, taking strategic advantage of the American principles, ex-_
ploiting the best sides in our characters as vulnerabilities, and succeed-
ing for a generation in changing the characteristics of Americans.
I remember when I was a young man, every personnel department.
was looking for leadership qualities. What was sought was a man's
capacity as an individual to achieve new things. Today that is : not
even considered by personnel departments in their employment poli-'
cies. They ask, instead, if the man "gets along" with everybody..
They do not ask what is his individuality; they ask how he conforms.
When we raise a young man to believe that at all costs he must get
on with everyone, we have put him into a state of mind that almost
guarantees, if he falls into the hands of an enemy such as the Com-
munists, that he will react as he had been raised, to try "to get on,"
because he must not be "antisocial." Being "antisocial" has become
the cardinal sin in our society. We have to again go back to charac-
teristics of ours which made us, as individuals, say that what is right
is right, and whether or not it is antisocial makes no difference. The
young man who broadcast for the Red Chinese was simply "getting.
along" as he had been taught to do by our educators.
What we can do in defense against brainwashing is very difficult
now, because we have lost a generation. We should begin by scotch-
ing a type of mentality that is both defeatist and unrealistic and which
repeats the so-called sophisticated observation, "Every man has' a
breaking point," with the inference that brainwashing is hence -un-
beatable and we might as well not do anything about it. That seems
to be the preferred conclusion in certain circles. Anyone who comes
forth with that finding is welcomed by them, and has no difficulty
having his writings displayed in the bookshops and learnedly reviewed.
A psychiatrist would be needed to analyze that masochistic trait in
some of us.
Pavlov's experiments do have significance for the human being, so
we are destined to become ants through the medium of a collectivist
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society, is the blase deduction in these sadistically inclined, fake
intellectual circles.
But this is loose thinking. Of course every man has a breaking
point, has always had, and will always have. Even granite can be
crushed into powder. What does that signify? The huskiest wrestler
in the world can stand only a certain amount of weight on his arm
before it cracks. The healthiest man in the world can be killed in a
moment by a bullet that penetrates a vital organ. So what? They
simply avoid such situations wherever normally possible. They nar-
row down the times when they can be trapped that way, or they make
it too costly for the assailant.
The basic point is that this breaking point varies constantly with
the same individual. Exercise, training, determination, and a host of
other elements all enter into it. There isn't a single human being so
weak or so strong, so stupid or so clever, that he cannot be improved.
His mental resistance can be strengthened just as much as his physical.
The type of mentality I have been outlining is the result of the
softening up that has been taking place in our society during the past.
few decades under Communist encouragement. Our first task is to
correct that sloppy way of thinking, especially when coated with a
veneer of the professorial.
The world situation has created the need for a conscious extension
of the sort of training we give Boy Scouts, for example. They are
taught what to do when lost in the woods. Our pilots are taught the
same survival methods, so they know what berries can poison them or
keep them alive. We simply have to extend that nowadays to
teaching a man what to do when lost in an ideological jungle, giving
him what I call "mental survival stamina." No longer is it sufficient
for him to just enjoy the privileges of a free society. He must learn
what constitutes freedom, and the pitfalls that destroy it. We have
always had camp crafts in the military. This merely extends them
farther. That was the simple basis on which the services presumably
are adopting a program to resist brainwashing.
The experiences of those who have undergone brainwashing tell us
what traits are effective in providing mental survival stamina. In my
second book, Brainwashing: The Story of Men Who Defied It, I list
them the same way as I do the pressures that break a mind. They
are given as follows:
Faith, convictions, clarity of mind, a closed mind, purpose, keeping one's mind
busy, confidence, deceit, high jinks, adaptability, crusading spirit, group feelings,
being yourself.
Some of these are readily understandable, others can be misin-
terpreted and require explanation, as the closed mind, deceit, and,
possibly high jinks. A closed mind does not mean narrowmindedness
or fanaticism. What it does mean is that you have already reached
a conclusion on a specific matter in question and under the circum-
stances there is no earthly use in discussing it. One doesn't discuss,
for instance, whether it isn't all right to slap one's mother in the face, or
to slap one's country in the face with a propaganda talk while under the
enemy. One doesn't have to prove himself objective or fairminded by
discussing those matters. There are innumerable others. The differ-
ence between a closed mind and fanaticism is that one shuts the door
in the former case, locks it, and puts the key in one's pocket. You can
open the door if you wish, but there's no logical reason to do so. The
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fanatic cements the door in place so it never can be opened again.
A balanced mind reaches conclusions on basic subjects, then passes on
to others. He doesn't return to the earlier ones unless some drastic
reason impels him to. A POW camp is certainly not the locale, with
all the dice loaded and in the hands of the brainwashers.
Anyone who wouldn't use deceit on a crazy man advancing toward
him with a dagger would be extremely stupid. A madman is humored,
and that is another way of saying deceived. The Communist ideology)'
like the Fascist, has a streak of insanity in it. Stalin had it the same
as Hitler. Prisoners of war still are soldiers, and it surely is no more
wrong to deceive an enemy than to kill him. Deceit is a recognized
part of military tactics. As told me by the Reverend Olin Stockwell,
an American missionary who was intensively brainwashed by the Reds,
"I lied like a trooper." He had sense. The Reds were at war with
his church as well as his country, and he would have been silly to
make believe not.
The Reds extracted confessions from practically anyone, no matter
on how trivial a matter, even when they knew it was a fake from
beginning to end. This mystified the prisoners, but there was a
psychological reason. Confession is a form of submission, and was
so recognized in early language. Confession accustoms the individual
to surrender his integrity as well as his body.
Quite a bit of controversy has arisen over the way to counteract the
confession tactic. While some insist on not replying to the Commu-
nists, giving no answers to their questions, others urge total confessions
of everything imaginable, except the truth,'by everybody. There are
serious drawbacks to both of these as an exclusive approach, but there
is no reason why we have to choose any single defense tactic. Let us
use them all, according to the situation and how we're organized at the
time. That's adaptability. We already know the utter falsity of
Communist-obtained confessions, and that much, at least, should be
proclaimed to all the world. We seem to feel that we mustn'?t hurt
the feelings of the Reds by stressing any such ugly trick of theirs.
We also can acquaint the world at once with this Pavlovian approach
that equates a man with beasts of the field. Strangely, we are hush-
ing up that aspect of it. I tell in Brainwashing: The Story of Men
Who Defied It, about a film I saw, made in the U. S. S. R. for train-
ing purposes, that shows experiments on a human being as if he
were a dog. I can imagine no more effective anti-Communist movie,
and we didn't make it; Moscow did. The film is available, yet we
are careful not to offend the Reds by showing it. I cannot conceive
of anyone in Hindu India or Moslem Egypt seeing that film and
retaining anything except disgust for the Reds.
The most important elements of mental survival stamina are faith and
convictions. I never expected this to be questioned After all, my in-
formation came out of the experiences of the brainwashed themselves.
Yet there has been a most peculiar resentment of that finding. I be-
lieve this is the most significant of my discoveries for Americans, for it
reveals a national vulnerability that has crept into our character, which
it is the responsibility of every one of our citizens to help remove.
I had gathered the material for my first book by the old-fashioned
way of going to news sources for it. I kept extensive notebooks. I
decided to retain that method in all my writing. I built up Brain-
Washing in Red China out of the material in my notebooks, giving each
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interview and each experience the way it happened, so the reader would
obtain each picture as I saw it originally. Only after I had finished it
and read it in published form did I realize the full extent of what I had
brought out. My faith in the bare truth, in the manner in which I had
been taught to believe in it as a cub reporter in a generation now past,
Was completely justified. The brainwashing secret that the Kremlin
had been able to keep bottled up in the Lubya.nka and the other dun-
geons of its secret police had slipped out through its back door in China.
I made many lasting friendships through my first book. One was
with Dr. Leon Freedom, a Baltimore brain specialist and psychiatrist,
and also his keen-minded wife, Virginia. Before I ever heard of him, he
was giving talks based on my book. After we met, I began going to him
after some especially important interview, and we would discuss it for
hours after his busy day at the clinic. He would analyze it from the
medical point of view. He clarified the connection between brainwash-
ing and Pavlov's conditioning of dogs. He opened that vista for me.
One day, I was jotting down notes during an interview with a brain-
washed man from Eastern Europe, when I recognized once more that
these words were alike to others I had been recording, told me by per-
sons who had undergone this mental torture in China. The subject
of the particular paragraph was how he had managed to survive to the
extent he had under those horrible pressures. The significance of this
dawned on me. That night I went over my notebooks and found the
second pattern, this time for the preservation of a man's mind, not
merely for its destruction. Our survival depends on us understanding
that.
Each time a man told me how lie had come out of the hands of his
Red inquisitors, to the extent that he had retained his integrity, be
had explained bow he had defeated it. I found these details always
the same, no matter whether the individual came from Siberia or
Chula, the Soviet Union or Czechoslovakia, or whether he was
American or German, Chinese or Japanese, irrespective of his profes-
sion, whether military or missionary or merchant. I realized then
that I had in my notebooks the pattern for the defeat of brainwashing,
for the preservation of men's minds against the most vicious and sly
attacks ever made on the human brain, in which all our great contri-
butions of science and civilization were being focused on the upside-
down
task of making healthy minds sick. When I came upon this
pattern for what I called mental survival stamina, I now knew I had
the material for a second book, and the responsibility to write it.
That was bow Brainwashing: The Story of Men Who Defied it
came into existence.
To complete the record, I have written a third book, The Story of
Mary Liu. I am told it reads like a novel, although every name and
detail are true. There is a illary Liu. The story deals with this
same human problem of the preservation of man's integrity under
tremendous odds. The Story of Mary Liu gives the experience of a
single individual, and deals primarily with the religious field. Because
of her very special condition, she was able to witness from behind the
scenes what foreigners were not allowed to see in Red China, even
those who were pro-Communist.
Mr. AI,ENs. Thank you very much, Mr. Hunter.
(Thereupon, at 1:30 p. m., Thursday, March 13, 1958, the con-
sultation was concluded.)
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INDEX
Dean, Zach W---------------------------------------------------- 17, 18
Eisenhower, Dwight D--------------------------------------------- 15
Flandin (Pierre) --------------------------------------------------- 6
Freedom, Leon----------------------------------------------------- 25
Freedom, Virginia (Mrs. Leon Freedom)------------------------------ 25
Hitler (Adolf) --------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------- 2, 6, 7, 24
Hunter, Edward------------------------------------ 1-4; 5-26 (statement)
Khrus'ichev (Nikita)----------------------------------------------- 10
Liu, Mary-------------------------------------------------------- 26
Mao Tse-tung ------------------------------------------------ 4, 12,21,22
Mindszenty,Joseph Cardinal--------------------------------------- 13
Nehru (Jawaharlal) ----------------------------------------------- 10
North, Sterling----------------------------------------------------- 20
Orwell, George ------------------------------------------------- 17
Pavlov (Ivan) ------------------------------------------------
12, 13, 23, 25 Stalin, Josef----------------------------------------------- --_------ 24
Stockwell, Olin----------------------------------: ----------------- 4 224
4
Tito (Josip Broz) -------------------------------------------------6
Wallace, Henry ----------------------------------------- ----------
ORCANIZATIONS
China (Communist Government) ------------------------------------ 13
League of Nations--- ------------------ - -- ---------------------
Newspaper 6
Guild, American-----------------=---------------------- 66
United States Government-Office of Strategic Services (OSS)----------
PUBLICATIONS
Brain-Washing in Red China (book)------------------------------ 15, 18, 25
Brainwashing: The Story of Men Whp-Defied It (book)--------- 15, 23, 25, 26
China Monthly Review ------------- -.--2--------------------------- 17
2r7
Compass - --------------------- - - -- - -- - -- - 6
Mein Kampf------------- --------- -------------------------------- 17
New York Times ----------------- --------------- ------------------
"1984" (book)---------------------------------------------------- 17
Story of Mary Liu, The (book) -------------------------------------- 26
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