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• Publication Date: July 2, 1964
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THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20301
1 July 1964
Replying to your memorandum of 1 July 1964,
subject: "CIA Operations in Vietnam",`'I would like
to correct any misapprehension that I took any
decisions or expressed any approval of activities
discussed at the briefing. I am interested in all
the matters mentioned in your memorandum but
would like to reserve judgment thereon until I
have got on the ground and discussed them with the
local officials.
Please withhold any additional personnel
until I understand the requirements better. ,e
Since rely,
MAXW H'LL D. TAYLOR
Chairman
Joint Chiefs of Staff
Lieutenant General Marshal Carter
Deputy Director
Central Intelligence Agency
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 General Maxwell D. Taylor
THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF
WASHINGTON 25, D. C.
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Lieutenant General Marshal Carter
Deputy Director
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1 July 1964
Colonel Rogers in General Taylor's office called and read the
following memorandum dated 1 July 1964 to me over the. phone. You
will receive this memorandum today, and I read it to you over the
phone last night.
"Dear Pat:
Replying to your memorandum of 1 July 1964, subject: CIA
Operations in Vietnam, I would like to correct any misap-
prehension that I took any decisions or expressed any approval
of activities discussed at the briefing. I am interested in all
the matters mentioned in your memorandum but would like to
reserve judgment thereon until I have got on the ground and
discussed them with the local officials.
Please withhold any additional personnel until I understand the
requirements better.
Sincerely,
/s/ Maxwell D. Taylor"
I was not able to reach Myers, Colby or Mr. Helms in their offices
this evening, so they have not as yet been informed.
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i July 1964
M ..;101 OXkAN OUM FO
The Pentagon
,e Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
~4axwsll U. Taylor
CIA Operations in Vietnam
1. In the course of your briefing on 27 June, I understand
you gave general approval for a substantial expansion of CIA's
activities in Vietnam in connection with counts rins urgency. Our
present thinking is that this would involve a steep-up of our efforts
in intelligence and counterintelligence, political action and irregu-
lar paramilitary activities. Arrange meats will be necessary to
insure that this expansion is appropriately coordinated with the
operations of N AC V, USOM, USIS, etc., but that at the same time
we retain the flexibility essential to successful CIA operations.
2. In the intelligence field, as was reported to you, there
have been continued good relationships between military and civilian
intelligence activities. We believe that there is move that can
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believe the lines of coordination and collaboration have been
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3. With respect to arrax geerxmeents for
coordination and Ambassadorial control are also adequately estab-
lished and I believe you will be fully satisfied as to your full know-
ledge and control of these operations.
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4. In the paramilitary;, Id, I believe there is an area of
ai:.biguity as to just how irregular forces can best contribute and
how they should be beat related to the operations of ARYN, the
Regional Forces and the Popular Forces. From DOD, there is a
definite contribution to such irregulars which can be made and is
highly necessary. Coordination between DOD and CIA has been
satisfactorily arranged in the past with the U. S. Army Special
Forces, and I am sure that sow similar arrangement can be
accomplished again. I suggest &at the problem be examined and
a program developed on the grouad with the assistance of a repre-
sentative of JCS/SACSA. and :r. William Colby of CIA. To these
two. I would recommend the addition of General Victor is rulak, as
I suggest that the Fleet Marine Forces Pacific may be able to
provide the DOD input into such a combined operation in the manner
this was done in the past by the U. S. Special Forces, thereby
avoiding any interference with the U. S..A Army Special Forces cur-
rent missions and undue calls on their available resources.
5. In order to provide the fastest possible expansion of CIA's
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operations in Vietnam, I am, arranging for the dispatch of
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officers who served tours in Vietnam and who
developed
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there in the past. These
officers will be understudteis by additional personnel experienced
in such operations but who may be relatively new to Vietnamx-i.
6. If this proposal meets with your general. approval, I will
have ;r. Colby contact JCS/SALSA and General )rulal,- to arr ge
for an early visit to Vietnam to help initiate the above. developments.
A telephone call to me will suffice.
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Marshall S. Carter
Lieutenant General, USA
Acting Director
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OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR
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MEMORANDUM FOR:
General Maxwell D. Taylor
The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
The Pentagon
SUBJECT; CIA Operations in Vietnam
meat I know you will give it.
I. In t e course of our briefing on 27 June, you indicated
general apps val of a substantial expansion of CIA's activities in
Vietnam in co nection with counterinsurgency. Our present
thinking is that this would involve a step-up of our efforts in
intelligence and counterintelligence, political action and irregular
paramilitary acts` ties. Arrangements will be necessary to
insure that this exp ion is appropriately coordinated with the
operations of MACV, SOM, USIS,, etc., but that at the same time
we retain the flexibilityya sentlal to successful CIA operations.
2. In the intelligence fi d, as we reported to you, there has
been a growing improvement in relationships between military
and civilian intelligence activitie We believe that there is more
that can be done, especially in
xniitary operations in the "' ld 'phase. In this area,
we believe the lines of coordination and llaboration have been
established, and that it needs only the fircrr,direction and encourage-
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3. With respect to the err gements for
coordination and Ambassadorial control are also equately
established and I believe you will be fully satisfied to your full
e and control of these nnersfinns-
knowled
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resources.
a program developed on the ' and by a representative of
JCS/ SACSA and Mr. Wiilia lby of CIA. To theme two. I
would recommend the addition f General Victor Krulak, as I
suggest that the Fleet Mine rcea Pacific may be able to
provide the DOD input into such combined operation in the
manner this was done In the past the U. S. Special Forces,
thereby avoiding any iterference th the U. S. Army Special 11 Pbrcesa. current missona and undue ails an their available
4. In the pa fiitary field, I believe there Is an area of
ambiguity as to duet ow irregular forces can best contribute and
how they should be t related to the operations of ARVN, the
Regional Forces and t e Popular Forces. From DOD, there is a
definite contribution to uch irregulars which can be made and is
highly necessary. Coor nation between DOD and CIA has been
satisfactorily arranged i the page with the U. S. Army Special
Forces and I am sure that om+ similar arrangement can be
accomplished again. I s at?`that the problem be examined and
5. In order t provide the f$atest
operations in Vietnam i am nging f
of officers wh
and who eve o ed op4rat
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We expansion of CIA's
the immediate dispatch
served tours in Vietnam
no there in the past.
experienced III such operations but who may be
Vietnam. .
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6. 9 tits proposal meets with your general a roval, I will
have Mr. Colby contact JCS/ 8ACSA and General Kr k to arrange
for an early visit to Vietnam to initiate the above ope tions.
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