DCI'S REMARKS TO MIDCAREER COURSE NO. 43, 8 NOVEMBER 1974
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19 November 1974
MEMO
1. FOR THE kPCO1D
DO's Remarks t, Midcarcer Course 41a. 43,
a November 1974
1. Mr. Colby not with the members of Midcareer Course
No. 43 from 1430 to 1545 o Friday, 8 November. Based on my
observations of Mr. Colby ' s meetings with, several other
Midcareer classes in the :a.st, I feel that, although
Mr. Colby has always been very generous of his time, and has
been forthcoming in his responses, he was in a much more
relaxed mood with this group, and there was better r ert
than I have seen In the ,3.st . Reasons that this was so are
difficult to say, but one favorable factor may have been one
of the written questions irected to 'Jr. Colby; "What can
we do as mid-career executives to make your job easier?"
2. The Director varied his -usual format in meeting
with this group; usually, he has some prepared remarks that
take about 15 minutes (pe-rhaps 10 minutes this time), then
he customarily goes throu'x the written questions, ticking
them off one by one, and. finally he invites questions from
the floor. This time, hr. Colby invited the class members
to ask further questions if any occurred to them while he
was going through the list of written questions.
led out of then sev,3ral concerns which he chose to
3 fir.. Colby opened his remarks by says; that he had
over the class memberrs' questions and that he had
paraphrase in several rho':orical questions that served to
launch his discussion. -L o of the questions were: "Is
Agency?"
4. A highly' condense--4 scary of dir. Colby's prepared
a future In intell 1;ger:ee7" and "Are we going to survive
remarks follows: We are adjusting to the aftermath of the
Vietnam War and Watergate. The credibility gap rust be
bridged by solid information. This coincides with changes
in the nature of intel,iigt9nce collection methods and analysis
away from the ?4a.ta. h aria -to tochnolog1cal collection and
analysis. Further, lie a.-led, the nature of the political
world is changing awa fr4"n the old bipolarity of the
giants to one whero tha srl.al.lor cIDuntr es are no longer
attached to one big power or the Other. Among other significant
changes, M. Colby snontio;iad that inflation has given As new
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it esss av~-r1 r we will retain the necessary
..,P.a4^" zn rtmtre1. r nest (stress is his) rest on
eat char a is in otzr resippollsiveness to congressional
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secrets. Mr. Colby added parenthetically that other nations'
intelligence services are now beginning to feel smiler
ross res, and they are brsvb to respond also. With regard
to necessary secrets, Mr. Colby pointed out that one of our
vast urgent-protection a~" sources-is often well, understood
and appreciated by news e m because of their abdiar Positions
the
crets
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r then moved c,,.--. discussion of the Agency
on to control leakage of those that are esseutial.
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C hich is be1 4 ~? good ostee:). 'tr. Colby said
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our contributions U? a assisted the president and
in copin with the problens that no faces, and the
.t our contributions are objective and free of special
rr,evcy has a t tsA futu ,.
such appreciate . hhar. &olb Concluded b saj xx&
Proceeding from his prepared
s. Mr. Colby invited the
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rith regard to their sources a protec
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In case
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answers raised new % estion . I po i= . the
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any other quo : ,ions &ad answers that ensued.
Are u sa:t ,.shed with the results of your policy
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think it is
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dissatisfied,
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f interest and
its effects overseas
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cables with sitting in ay sear
get much objection.
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c. Please clarity your position on Agency collection
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security investiaatio.s of our own prospective employee
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.mss.: Mr.. Nedzi is i out to introduce a bill in the
douse making it clear that our function is foreign
intelligence. This bill will also make clear what
i United States. , we conduct
have proprietaries, and we a "" n rroc
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may get-security info ?matic n, which we will pass to
the proper agency.
w,4+ .,F c tc2r WsterQatee. internal security
d. What are the chances that proposed legislation
-ding protection. of intelligence sources and methods
because it will Only apply to us,
Fair
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brought into the ecrets,k and not to newsn en.
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Q.: What role do you see yourself playing in the
drafting of official, secrets legislation?
A. I have taken a high profile--I have been the
only one to have recommended it. I want to hold
it to intelligence sources and methods, and avoid
national security, which I think would be an
endless process.
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f. Do you feel that your authority is conmen1sura7.e
with your responsibility as DCI?
Ans, : Yes. I do not have command authority over
the other agencies. I am a staff officer to the
President. As long; as people know that I can go to
the President and tell him. things about them, I have
all the authority I r-eed.
g. CIA analysts are severely handicapped by the
lack of cooperation :.=:rom - the U. S.. Navy. What do you
feel you can do as fl "I to correct this situation?
Ans.: The situation has just been corrected. We
have a new Director ofdaval. Intelligence. The Navy
has learned new ways to compartment its information;
the Navy has also waked up to the fact that it can
get help from the Corimunity.
h. To what de .ree does our intelligence product
contribute to Mr. Kissinger's foreign policy planning
and formulation?
Ans.: A great deal. The N 55C uses our material very
heavily, indeed. The whole SALT thing depends upon
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i. As Director, you have made several changes in
the Agency. Are you contemplating any further changes?
Ares. ; If something comes up that needs it, I will
take a look. New technology may force further changes.
For example, regarding economic intelligence, we may
have to question ourselves as to whether we are doing
it right. If such examination calls for changes--fine.
If not, fine, too.
J. Are you satisfied with the IC system as it
is currently fincti#x ing?
Ans.: Yes, I think it's been very helpful. I credit
the NI0's with the spirit of collaboration we find. I
don't know how anyboty did his job before them. The
NIO is a vehicle for getting; across agency barriers.
k. Will inflation plus stringent %1B fiscal policies
require continuing personnelI and program reductions
in the Agency? If se, please project the extent of
reductions through 1'38O.
Arts.: I do project ; further gradual personnel reduction.
Partly, I do this because if I didn't, and later had
to reduce, people would feed, betrayed. We will do this
through normal retirements, normal departures, and from
the bottom 5%. I doubt that we are going to be able
to compensate for inflation in scaling down our
programs--thus, we will have less real dollars,
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doing a good jobf
doing a good job,
011 all of us to bring toot:,
the oratiaation.
u Wish you successor to is
of h` a Colby directorship]
r b ,Ors is likely to confront?
r 1`roat the a .aaa t problem,
lisp. is the co tiie e i tails, c
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A.-. mere are a rat ::icy groups; tf reason tor
re is some overlap. A
long as we have ce ication we are al
I as of c; r.cezte as i:.onj as we cOm Wt
with *to *not
. Mr. Colby than c:;1o ed the meeting by. wt
class access with "the re
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Mr. Colby's Remarks to Mid.career Course 44 on
13 November 1974
Mr. Colby opened Midca_reer Course 44 by welcoming all
members to the course. He hoped that the last half of their
career would be as beneficial as was the first. Mr. Colby
asked all. of the class members to look at the Agency from
the outside and see how the Agency fits into the outside
world while in the course. This will stimulate you as individuals
and. give you a. chance to see where we should go in the
Agency and how to do it. With Watergate and Chile, we have
found. that we have little time to focus on the Agency itself;
we need the talents of individuals like yourselves along
with your experience to give the Agency a little direction.
Your ideas might take awhile to be implemented but, if they
are good and. sound, implementation will take place.
Mr. Colby stated that knowledge of the management of
the Agency was important for an understanding of the decision-
making process. Management devices such as MBO, PDP, APP,
all boil down to communication of what is important and provide
a base for auditing results once the decisions are made.
Leave the individual alone for awhile then, after a period
of time ask him how he has done. Mr. Colby said that this
is what he calls the post audit system of managei,.ent. The
machinery runs very well by itself;, so don't muck around
with it.
Mr. Colby said that the main part of intelligence is
the product and the substance, not the management style.
This is what you as individuals should get out of this
course. He also said that this was the driving force behind
intelligence and our instigation.
One of our main sub.; ec-ts in intelligence today is that
of economics; it used to be counterinsurgency several years
ago, but not now. Mr. Colby stressed. the importa-Alce of
economic intelligence collection, 'both overtly and covertly.
Mr. Colby asked the class members to let the substance
of intelligence drive their interest during the course, so
that its in the best interest of the President, Congress and
most of all the country.
Mr. Colby said that we have added a new image to both
the Agency and intelligence, that being the engineer. The
engineer has taken his place along side the spy. Sure we
have spies and we will probably always have them, but its
the new image that we have added that is important. The
intellectual aspect of intelligence is where we are today,
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and being able to interrelate them is what's important.
Adding these new changes and images as well as new techniques
into intelligence to better broaden ourselves is what is
important.
Mr. Colby also stated. that we were opening up our
relationship with the American public so that the public may
better understand us. That is one of the reasons for his
being more open, "we need the public's support." Mr. Colby
said. that we were also having problems keeping some of our
secrets, and that he was trying to introduce new laws in the
Congress to change some of this, especially the protection
of sources and methods. Re said that the President backs
the Agency 100 percent as -far as covert action is concerned,
and Congress reaffirmed its suppo:ct for covert action in
recent voting on specific pieces of legislation.
Mr. Colby stated that as far as leaks were concerned,
he only knew of one leak from the Hill thus far and that the
real leaks were coming from the Executive Branch of the
Government.
The following are selected questions and responses from
Mr. Colby's opening remarks:
Will economic intelligence play an important part in
the future?
Most definitely. Look at the economic effects of
petroleum and food products. If we can help solve the
economic problem, we can help solve the political situation.
This sort of problem-solving can avert wars. We must develop
a pattern in economic intelligence on how we can better use
it. There may be discreet. ways to conduct covert action to
defuse potential economic disasters. By laying out the
economic intelligence facts, we may be able to defuse a
hostile situation between two countries.
Are we d.oing anything; to improve our public image?
We are not launching any full--scale promotion
effort to improve our public image. However, I do a good
deal. of this. For example, I am going to New York this
evening to speak to the Economic Club there. General Walters
does a good deal of this also, as well as some analysts in
the Agency.
What is the Agency's role in the SALT Negotiations?
The negotiations depend on the Agency for its
answers and projections. There appears to be a real effort
for a SALT agreement during, 1975, prior to the election?in
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1976. The verification of an agreement will be extremely
difficult as well as will be the symmetry. We have certainly
raised the points about supposed violations., but you're dealing
with a culture here, so its very difficult. We must convince
the Soviets to be more open and less secretive.
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