Career Service Panel 11January 1967

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• Publication Date: January 11, 1967
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Career Service Panel
11 January 1967
0900
Room 607 - Conference Room
2. Promotion. Actions
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25X1A9a 3. Initiate promotion action on from GS-14 to
GS-15.
4. ORD Training Hours and Cost.
5. Policy Discussion on Release of ORD Career Service Panel Procedural
Information to the Staff.
6. Policy oh Training - Chapman's Report.
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Notification of the following requests for training at Non-Agency
facility:
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George Washington University - Jan - May 1967
(Part Time) -- Gas Dynamics - $162.00
Theory of gas dynamics including combustion, shock phenomena,
dynamics of flow, and heat transfer for high temperature gases.
American University - Feb. 1, 1967 - June 4, 1967
(Part Time) - Quantum Electronics - $154.00
Quantum mechanical analysis of the latest electronic devices,
i. e., lasers, masers, and other atomic level functional processes.
George Washington University - Feb. - June 1967
(Part Time) - Mathematical Methods in Applied Science 1- $162.00
Methods and theory of functions of complex variables and partial
differential equations and their application.
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George Washington University - Jan 30 - May 17 1967
(Night) - Theory of Structural Stability- $162.00
Development and application of fundamental concepts dealing with
the elastic, plastic, and viscoelastic stability of engineering
materials and structures.
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George Washington University - Jan 30 - May 17 1967
(Night) - Partial Differential Equations - $162.00
Development and application of fundamental concepts dealing
with partial differential equations.
erican Management Association - 9 Jan - 10 Jan 1967
(Full Time) - Optical Character Recognition Seminar- $100.00
A state-of-the-art discussion of Optical Character Recognition
with the focus on current and future applications areas,
advantages and what can and cannot be expected.
National Institute of Health - 6 Feb. 1967 - 26 May 1967
(Part'Time) - College Physics - $68.00
Lectures and lab work on basic concepts in electricity, light, etc.
George Washington University - 26 Jan 1967 - 28 May 1967
(Part Time) - Engineering Administration I - $160.00
Planning and Scientific Method in Administration.
George Washington University - 30 January 1967 - 27 May 1967
(Part Time) - Field Analysis and Potential Theory - $162.00
A general study of theory of potentials including those used to
facilitate the solution of problems in electromagnetic theory,
mechanics, thermodynamics, and gravitation. It is a graduate
electrical engineering course.
George Washington University - 30 January 1967 - 27 May 1967
(Part Time) - Electrodynamics - $162.00
Presence of moving matter in electromagnetic fields, force and energy
in moving systems, relativistic concepts, tensors. It is a
graduate electrical engineering course.
George Washington University - 26 January 1967 - 28 May 1967
(Part Time) - Principles and Procedures of Automatic Data Processing
Systems - $162.00
A survey of principles of digital computer systems.
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AGENDA - CSP (Cont'd)
Requests for Internal Training are:
1. ADP Orientation - 17 Jan - 19 Jan 1967
a.
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2. Introduction to Communi - Jan - 13 Jan 1967
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Introduction to Intelligence - 16 Jan - 27 Jan 1967
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Requests - Miscellaneous
1. National War College & Industrial College of the Armed Forces
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(.) U. S. Security Interests in Sub-Sahara Africa -? 16 Jan 67
(2) U. S. Security Interests in the Near and Middle East - 23 Jan 67
(3) A Foreign View of U. S. Security Policies - 31 Jan 67
(4) Trends and Prospects of U. S.-CHI COM Relations - 26 Jan 67
(1) The Alliance for Progress and U. S. Security - 17 Jan 67
(1) U. S. Security Interests in the Near and Middle East - 23 Jan 67
PP. P. Security Interests in Sub-Sahara Africa -. 16 Jan 67
Interests in South Asia - 24,Jan 67
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CAREER SERVICE PANEL
Minutes of the Meeting
11 January 1967
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(Excused from the meeting at 0931 hours)
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Recording Secretary
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0904 hours.
Chairman called the meeting to order at
2. The Chairman announced to the Panel that since three of the
regular members of the Panel would not be able to participate in the
full session of the CSP meeting this date, Item 5 on the Agenda for
the 11 January 1967 meeting, Policy Discussion on Release of ORD
Career Service Panel Procedural Information to the Staff, would be
deferred until the February meeting when all members would be present.
3. The following changes were requested on the minutes for
7 December 1966:
a. Item 5 (c). Change to read: asked for a
25X1A9a general opinion from the CSP on guidelines for
training.
25X1A9a b. Item 5 (e). Change to read: stated there
is an unwritten policy, not a definite Agency policy,
that 10% of the Agency should be in training at any
given time. This would vary from office to office.
25X1A9a c. Item 5 (f). Change to read: jointed out that
if our educational level is 2,448 man hours, 2.4% man
hours were devoted to training in ORD.
25X1A9a d . Item 8 - Sentence 2. Change to read: stated
that all promotion actions submitted after 1 January 1967
would be reviewed under the requirements set up by the
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3 d. (Continued)
Competitive Evaluation and Promotion Action Report approved
by the D/ORD on 9 November 1966. Promotion action on
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225~X~11 was submitted before 1 January 1967.
25X1Agaa 4. The Chairman asked for a report from on ORD
. promotion actions. reported as follows:
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a. Promotion action rom GS-14-to
GS-15 has been forwarded to DD/S&T Personnel.
b. DD/S&T concurs that GS-14-and GS-15 promotion actions need
not go to DD/S&T Career Service Board. The ultimate
approval will come from the D/ORD and this policy will
become effective 15 January 1967.
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c. Promotion action on from GS-5 to GS-6
had been approved by the Special Panel/ORD and DD/S&T
Personnel and would become effective 1 January 1967.
5. moved that be recommended for
25X1A9apromotion from GS-14,to GS-15. Motion was seconded by Motion
carried unanimously.
6. The Chairman explained to the CSP members that promotion actions
sent forward to the D/ORD would contain a statement explaining the reasons
for dissenting votes, if any, but would not list the names of the dis-
senters.
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7. A discussion followed, lead by concerning a 100%
vote on all actions by the CSP. He suggested that the Chairman might be
approached and informed of a member's feelings on a specific actiom. The
Chairman explained that the Charter permitted an official meeting if a
quorum were present, and that members should attend all meetings. He
25X1A9a further advised that, if informed in time of the absence of a member, he
would defer an action. then suggested a change in the by-laws.
25X1A9a stated that it was his understanding that members were told
"You will schedule your time so you will be available for the meetings
and you will be at the meeting unless you are on sick leave." The
Chairman agreed that this was correct but that there were occasions when
a member cannot attend.
8. The Chairman then took up Item 4,on the Agenda, ORD Training
Hours and Costs. Review of list of internal and external training
broken down into government and non-government training which ORD personnel
25X1A9a availed themselves during FY 1966, as distributed by with
25X1A9a information provided by was then taken up by the CSP.
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9. Comments on various phases of training were made as follows:
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Review of training every six months or
one year on total ORD training should be made.
Impressed with the nature of the training and
the number of people in ORD taking the courses.
raised a question concerning internal training.
He quoted statement that all new EODs
should take the Intelligence course. He stated that there was
quite a division of opinion as to the value of the Communism
course. stated that he had not been scheduling
his new people for the Communism course. He asked: Is
there a policy that these people must take this course?
answered that there is an Agency regulation.
HR-18-2.c.) that all EODs must take these two courses.
pointed out that the Communism course deals with
past Communism history but does not go into the present day
situation. He stated that he would consider this course a
definitive exercise.
asked the following question of
What value do you think the Intelligence Course was to the
people in your Division who took it? stated
that (1) a great deal of the material was useful and well
presented and they thought it would be useful to them for a
long time to come; (2) the DD/S&T portion of the presentation
was extremely poor; (3) the amount of material that went into
the course was too much and they felt that the course could
be cut down to a week.
May be worth our reviewing the problem of whether
an s ould take these courses as soon as they report on
board or wait a year when they might get more out of it.
reported on the attendance of the China course.
He stated that about 30 had registered for the course but
that the week after Christmas the attendance was down to 7.
Norm attendance of this course was about 15 or 16. He
felt that the course had not been supported by the personnel
25A had registered to attend.
25Y&He would look into this. He felt periodic
speakers may be more advisable rather than a long run course.
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seminar discussions within ORD. He felt the front office
should initiate something like this. - suggested
that ORD might start a Science Club, as some private industries
25X1A9a have initiated. He felt that ORD would have a fair attendance
and could draw from DD/S&T and other Divisions.
said it would be possible to arrange a time and speakers to
25X1A9a cover any area at high level if there was a sincere interest.
25X1A9a suggested seminars on Viet Nam; on
25X1A9a e Photography; on Pattern Recognition.
formed the Panel that the Division Chief should
discuss this with his staff and see what topics would be of
interest and on what level. If there was enough interest,
they should bring it up for discussion at the Staff Meeting.
10. The Chairman reported that the study on Career Training had gone
forward to the D/ORD. He stated that he had added a note to this report
reading as follows:
"This is the third of the three "policy studies" done by the
Career Board and is forwarded to you for your comments
and/or approval as policy.
The only hooker in it is paragraph 5 which recommends a
complement of training slots equal to 5% of the office
strength. I think it is extremely unlikely that we
could obtain slots for this purpose at this time and
recommend that we not go forward with that request but
that we do maintain a close watch on the extent of
training undertaken in ORD."
The Chairman reported that the D/ORD had approved the report with
the exception of Paragraph 5.
Discussion followed on problems of the Division Chiefs sending
employees into training when the employee is needed on the job.
25X1A9a 11. notified the Panel that in line of training, there
would be a Mid Career Course in April, July and October of this year. He
asked that a list of nominees be prepared for the July and October training.
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went on to state that the Agency criteria for this
course is that the employee be a GS-13 with 5 years experience in the Agency,
and range between the age of 35-45. The DD/S&T has waived this and will
approve GS-12s, 13s, 14s and possibly 15s, with three years in the Agency
ranging from 29 to 45 years old.
Would like to have more courses of interest to
the people of ORD.
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The course will last six weeks. The first two weeks will be in
25X1A6olation. This part of the course will be handled by Management Grid;
ookings no longer handles this. The speakers will be senior Agency officers.
Two weeks of training will be held at and the speakers will be from
25X1A9autside the Agency and from other Government agencies. stated
that this course is not in lieu of the Agency Mid Career Course given by DD/S&T.
The quota on this course is three employees for each of the runnings this year.
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The Chairman asked that a list be prepared on potential candidates
for all GS-12s, 13s, and 14s with two years Agency experience ranging between
ages of 29 to 45. He wanted this list to incorporate all employees who are
eligible, not only the employees chosen by the Division Chief. The Chairman
25X1A9c-hsked that this list be prepared by and circulated to all CSP
members before the March CSP meeting. He asked that, this matter be put on
the March Agenda for discussion.
12. The Chairman scheduled the next meeting of the CSP for 6 February
at 0900 hours.
13. The Chairman asked that the Competitive Evaluation of GS-12s be
put on the February Agenda of the CSP. He also scheduled the Competitive
Evaluation of GS-13s on the CSP March Agenda.
25X1A9a 14. - raised the question whether the CSP would accept out of
phase promotion actions for GS-9s, 10s, and lls until July. The Chairman
answered "No" unless there is a strong justification for doing so and then
it should be brought to the DD/ORD and he will decide what should be done.
25X1A9a 15. informed the Chairman that due to a commitment made
to the Recruiting Division, he would be in Texas on 6 March 1967, and
asked if the CSP meeting in March could be scheduled for 8 March instead
of 6 March. The Chairman asked that this be taken up at the February meeting.
16. Meeting adjourned at 1029 hours.
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