CAREER SERVICE PANEL Minutes of the Meeting 4 May 1970

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CAREER SERVICE PANEL
Minutes of the Meeting
4 May 19 70
Acting Chairman
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1. The Acting Chairman called the meeting to order at 0905 hours.
2. The agenda for 4 May 1970 was changed as follows:
Additions: (Under new business)
a. Formation of a Career Enhancement and
Training Panel composed of junior officers
in ORD.
b. Preparation of semi-annual CSP report which
is due in June.
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Item 5 b. - - Completion.
of Competitive Evaluation.
It was brought to the attention of the Panel
that will be transferred to TSD.
felt that any further discussion on
should take place when
attended the CSP meeting. Until that time, the
Division and Reviewer's rating of B would stand
with CSP rating still pending.
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2 X1A9a 3, moved that the minutes for 6 April 1970 be approved
25 1A9a as written. seconded the motion. Vote unanimous of those members
present. Motion carried.
5X1A9a 4. The Recording Secretary, in the absence of reported
the following:
PROMOTIONS:
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TERMINATIONS:
None
ADDITIONS:
- C/PMS/ORD from GS-14 to GS-15.
DCH/PMS/ORD from GS-13 to GS-14.
a. A ril Phys Scien-Res., GS-14, step 1 for BSD/ORD on
1970.
b? Jerk Stenographer, GS-4, step 1 for BSI)/ORD.
QUALITY STEP INCREASE:
A9a QSI action on being held up until 15 June 1970 for
approval until he receives his PSI on 14 June 1970. Will resubmit action.
ADVANCE NOTICE ON ORD RETIREMENT
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31 July 1970.
ADVANCE TRAINING:
None
MISCELLANEOUS:
Phys Scien-Res., An/ORD,GS-15, retiring 30 June 1970.
,, Secretary Steno, GS-9, D/ORD, retiring 31 July 1970.
Contract Admin., Support Staff, GS-12 retiring
25X1A9a has been approved for Fellowships in Congressional
Operations by Training Selection Board and the recommendation for his
selection as an Agency candidate to the Civil Service Commission has gone
to Colonel White for approval.
25X1A9a 5. reported to the Panel that ORD Memorandum #2372-70,
after a minor editing change, was signed by D/ORD and forwarded to
DD/S&T Career Board.
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6. The Panel then took up the completion of the competitive evaluation
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he had rated a C. It was the decision of those Panel members
in attendance that the CSP rating for should be a C.
7. - moved that the CSP recommend for promotion
from GS-12 to GS-13. seconded the motion. Vote was unanimous
of those members present. Motion carried.
8. Discussion was held on the recommendation for a Quality Step
Increase for from GS-14, step 4 to GS-14, step 5 as
follows:
a. The CSP discussed alternate routes that can be taken
on grade promotion versus an in-step approval.
b. stated he felt a promotion action was
more appropriate, rather than recognition by a QSI,
which might build a future problem. He felt talent
should be recognized.
25X1A9a c. felt the question is: Shouldn't the
Division Chief give some thought to whether there is
a need for a GS-15 aerodynamics physicist in the office,
not that a man should be considered for promotion?
25X1A9a d. felt that a formal question should be raised
as to whether the aerodynamics physicist should be
considered for promotion and whether the man's career
can be improved by doing it.
25X1A9a e. stated that a similar problem has come up
several times before where the men under consideration
have been highly competent and creative but working in
areas without priorities on broad and important
involvements. For or anizational, as well as personal
25X1A9a reasons, felt ORD has to make the opportunity
for them. Many people would like to get in other areas
25X1A9a but they feel internally restricted. Also,
strongly felt that the rapidly approaching grade
saturation point deserves serious consideration with
respect to alternatives for "career development" or
even thinking in terms of careers.
25X1A9a f . - felt that when a man reaches a plateau in
utility or ability his supervisor or the CSP should have
a discussion with him concerning career prospects.
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cited as an example of a man
who has reached the point in his development where he
can contribute significantly to other program areas.
h. stated that there was a need for a Junior
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25X1A9a could have been put in a Junior SPS level.
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On this level, a step increase would be a promotion.
i? - stated that under new business he would like
to propose a panel to pursue these kind of questions.
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9. moved that the CSP recommend for
a Quality Step Increase from GS-14, step 4 to GS-14, step 5. 25X1A9a
seconded the motion. Vote unanimous of those CSP members in attendance.
Motion carried.
25X1A9a 10. then took up the matter of formation of a Career
Enhancement and Training Panel composed of junior officers. He stated that
this was proposed in ORD Memorandum #2921-70, dated 24 April 1970,written
by EO/ORD to C/AS/DD/S&T on the Role of the Younger Officer in ORD. The
following is an excerpt from that memorandum:
"An area for future consideration in utilization of younger employees is in
manning Career Enhancement and Training Panels (CETP). Such a panel would
be responsible for reviewing qualifications and education of their peers
with the possibility of recommending future training, altering job assign-
ments, etc. At this time it is not felt that the career service boards
should be opened to membership of the younger personnel other than those
who are charged with supervisory responsibilities as laid out on the Table
of Organization. However, in supplementing the career panel, the above
mentioned CETP would be quite helpful in improving career planning for
younger officers."
"The ORD procedure of utilizing the younger officer in the decision making
process on development programs, combined with a closer look at his future
career through the establishment of a CETP would provide greater opportunities
for involvement and participation in management. Because of this participation,
it would open channels of communications between the various levels of the
organizational structure in the Agency."
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11. a. In response to a question raised relating to the
propriety of the suggestion made by the EO/ORD,
- stated that EO/ORD didn't recommend a
panel be formed in ORD, only suggested that a panel
could be formed. This memorandum went forward with
the approval of D/ORD.
25X1A9a b. reported that had been made
a member of the Task Force for Maximizing the
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stated that if suggestions were to come
from the junior level, it would only bring on
frustration if their suggestions were not taken up
for action.
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d. stated he felt that D/OP was handling
the problem at the junior level. It seemed a
needless effort for ORD where there are so few
young people. He further stated ORD members now
have trouble on furthering their career enhancement
and training. He felt it would be of no practical
use in ORD as junior officers get very specific
attention from ORD senior personnel.
25X1A9a e. tated that some good points are to be
gained in having participation in management of their
own careers by junior personnel. In the ORD/CSP,
he felt members did not consider all the aspects. He
felt the Panel generally was not acting as a Career
Development group. The mechanism of doing this is the
problem.
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stated he would like a study made on new
employees as to how they look at their careers when they
come on board. At the time of employment, they should
be asked what ideas do they have as to how they would
like to further their careers. He felt it would be
interesting to determine how career development concepts
and goals are altered or changed by the Agency's
bureaucratic system. felt a carefully
structed form should be issued to them when they come on
board; checked with them in six months; in a year; and
then a year thereafter. The data would speak for itself.
He felt ORD should undertake such a study.
Most CSP members felt this would not be a suitable program
for ORD because it has so few young professionals.
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h. stated that even though a division chief feels
close to his people, they really don't talk to him. They
talk amongst themselves. He felt that ORD should get
these junior level people together and have them talk
and recommend.
i. - stated he felt ORD pays a lot of attention to the
problems of its people.
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told the Panel that he has talked. to junior
professionals during rating periods trying to get a feel
for their views on the CSP. He stated he usually got a
nonchalant, unenthusiastic response such as: "to me
the CSP is an entity having meetings but not really doing
anything for me as an individual."
k. - felt the Panel would be a mechanism for getting
the best from our people and developing them so they can
become useful.
1? felt Office of Personnel has a program in
process. There are Senior and Junior Management programs,
Managerial Grid courses, etc., which the junior professional
can attend. He felt we didn't need another program in
ORD.
25X1A9a M. thought that a Panel made up of one
representative from each. ORD division should be formed so
that they could discuss management and career enhancement
and make suggestions to the Panel.
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said he agreed with with one 25X1A9a
reservation: Suppose we have an eight member junior
panel, representing each. of the ORD divisions. Junior
professionals might be happy to serve on such a panel;
but if after the third or fourth meeting they had
failed to evoke any positive response or effect any
change, the overall impact on morale could be negative
rather than positive.
asked for a feedback on the junior
professionals now serving on Agency panels. He was
told, at this time, there are only two ORD people on
these panels:
1)
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Member of the EXRAND Technical Task Team,
Information Processing Technical Group and
Management Advisory Group.
Member of Task Force for Maximizing the
Abilities of Young Employees.
11. stated that further discussion on younger officers in
ORD will be added to the Agenda for the next meeting of the CSP.
12. asked that the Executive Secretary/CSP prepare a semi-
annual CSP report in the format established by the CSP committee and used
in the last report.
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25X1A9a8 13. moved that the CSP meeting be scheduled for
June 1970. seconded the motion. Four members voted for
and one member opposed the motion. Motion carried.
14. Meeting adjourned at 1025 hours.
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