DRAFT MINUTES OF THE 15 APRIL USIB MEETING

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• Publication Date: April 15, 1964
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UNITED STATES INTELLIGENCE BOARD
MEMORANDUM FOR THE UNITED STATES INTELLIGENCE BOARD
SUBJECT : Draft Minutes of the 15 April USIB Meeting
The attached draft minutes of the 15 April Intelligence Board
meeting will be considered at the next regular Board meeting. A
Special Annex to these minutes is being circulated through special
channels.
Attachment
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UNITED STATES INTELLIGENCE BOARD
Minutes of
Three-hundred-twentieth Meeting
United States Intelligence Board
USIB Conference Room
Central Intelligence Agency, at 1030 hours, 15 April 1964
Director of Central Intelligence
John A. McCone
Presiding
MEMBERS PRESENT
?Lieutenant General Marshall S. Carter, Deputy Director of Central
Intelligence
Mr. Thomas L. Hughes, Director of Intelligence and Research,
Department of State
Lieutenant General Joseph F. Carroll, Director, Defense Intelligence
Agency
Dr. Louis W. Tordella, Acting Director, National Security Agency
Mr. Harry S. Traynor, Atomic Energy Commission representative
to USIB
Mr. William 0. Cregar, acting for Federal Bureau of Investigation
representative to USIB
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1. USIB-D-41.14/113 (CCPC-
D-4/64), 9 March 1964
(USIB-D-41. 14/124, 8 April,
Limited Distribution thru restricted
channels; USIB-D-41. 13/8, 14 April,
Limited Distribution through special
channels)
(An account of USIB discussion and action on this item is
contained in USIB-D-41. 14/129 (CCPC-D-6/64), 17 April, Limited
Distribution through restricted channels and USIB-D-41. 13/9 (COMOR-
D-25/89), 17 April 1964, Limited Distribution through restricted
channels.)
2. USIB-D-41.14/l25 (COMOR-
D-25/86), 10 April 1964
(Limited distribution through
restricted channels)
(A report of USIB action on the subject document is contained
in USIB -D- 41. 14/128 (COMOR-D -25/ 88), 15 April, Limited Distribution
through restricted channels.)
3. Approval of Minutes
8 April Meeting
(USIB-M-319, including Annex
distributed through special
channels; and records of action
in USIB-D-41. 14/124 and
USIB-D-41. 14/123, Limited
Distribution through restricted
channels)
Approved as circulated, including the referenced documents.
4. Watch Report No. 712
Approved as amended.
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7. Post-Mortem on SNIE 14.3-64,
"The Outlook for North Vietnam"
(Memorandum for USIB, 8 April;
USIB-M-315, 4 March, Item 6)
The Acting Chairman of the Board of National Estimates (BNE)
opened the discussion on this Post-Mortem, which had been remanded by
USIB to the BNE at the 4 March Board meeting. Mr. Smith pointed out
that, as directed by the Board, this Post-Mortem is focused solely on
gaps in information with no discussion of collection or analysis. The
Board concurred in minor changes suggested by the DIA Member.
Mr. Hughes questioned where he should send comments by
State's analysts which concern the processing and exploiting of material
which is available from North Vietnam, since such matters appear to go
beyond the collection problems of concern to the Critical Collection
Problems Committee (CCPC).
There followed a discussion concerning the handling of collection
and analysis problems stemming from the intelligence gaps identified in
this and future Post-Mortems. The discussion centered on whether the CCPC
was the appropriate committee to assume responsibility not only for
collection problems but also for processing and analysis problems. The
Chairman expressed the view that CCPC should be the Board's facility
for seeing that the community is closing as many gaps as possible.
The Board then:
a. Approved the Post-Mortem on SNIE 14.3-64 as
amended.
b. As contemplated in the 4 March USIB meeting, referred
this Post-Mortem to the CCPC for recommendations concerning
collection actions to overcome the deficiencies.
c. Noted that State's comments on the subject Post-Mortem,
which concern processing and exploitation of available material
from North Vietnam, would be circulated to USIB members.
d. Directed the Board of National Estimates to review the
overall problem of Post-Mortems and submit recommendations
for USIB consideration at a future meeting as to how they can be
made more useful.
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8. Terms of Reference for
NIEs and-SNIE s
(USIB-D-13. 1/15, 10 April)
The Chairman reported that he requested BNE to produce this
paper as a result of the discussion at the 8 April Board meeting concerning
the terms of reference for SNIE 36-2-64. The discussion at this meeting
had centered on the narrowness of the terms of reference for this estimate
(USIB-M-319, Item 8).
The State Member concurred in the subject paper, but expressed
the hope that the paper did not mean that every estimate had to be balanced
from the viewpoint of policy consideration. He added that estimates with
relatively narrow terms of reference often are useful to policy makers.
Mr. McCone stated that the subject paper would not solve all
such problems, but that it should help to achieve an early review and
agreement among USIB Members on terms of reference. He agreed that
the paper did not mean that the terms of reference on every estimate
had to be very broad.
The Board then concurred in the subject paper as amended.
9. Arab Reactions to Certain
US Aid to Israel
(SNIE 36-2-64; USIB-M-319,
Item 8)
Mr. Abbot Smith reported that this estimate had been revised
in accordance with the discussion of the terms of reference for this SNIE
at the 8 April USIB meeting. After a brief discussion the Board approved
SNIE 36-2-64 as amended.
No member raised objection to release of this estimate to USIA.
10. SNIE on Nasser's Policies
and Prospects
The Acting Chairman of BNE reported on the Secretary of State's
request for a SNIE on Nasser's policies and prospects.
The Board agreed that a SNIE should be undertaken to assess
Nasser's position, probable courses of action, and the likelihood of
problems arising which might cause serious deterioration of US-UAR
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11. USIB-S-13. 5/10, 26 March
(Limited Distribution through
special channels)
(USIB action on the subject document is contained in the Special
Annex to these minutes, distributed through special channels.)
Executive Session
12. Designation of Chairman,
Critical Collection Problems
Committee (CCPC)
(DCID 2/2, Paragraph 4)
After convening the Board in executive session at 1230, the
Chairman said that he had been giving a lot of thought to the appointment
of a new Chairman, CCPC, including discussion with General Strong
regarding the time required for this position.
Mr. McCone said that he would like CCPC to be used in a
different way than in the past.',,,, He thought CCPC could become one of
the primary committees to assist the Board in dealing with problems
such as those considered in Items 1 and 7 today. Such problems would
include not only a follow-up on Post Mortems but also on Priority National
Intelligence Objectives (PNI0s). Hence, there would be an interplay in
this work between CCPC and Mr. Bros& Staff.
The Chairman therefore proposed to designate Major General
John M. Reynolds of Mr. Bross' Staff as Chairman, CCPC. In making
this designation, Mr. McCone explained that it was not intended that
Mr. Bross would be interposed between the CCPC and USIB Members,
since General Reynolds would be acting individually as Chairman, CCPC,
in addition to his duties with Mr. Bross' Staff. General Reynolds may
require some staff to assist him as Chairman, CCPC, but this will be
determined on the basis of experience.
General Carroll said that, when this appointment had first,
been mentioned to him, there were two points which had concerned him.
The first was whether this would alter the purpose for which General
Reynolds was assigned to Mr. Bross' Staff; the second was whether,
as Chairman, Critical Collection Problems Committee, General
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Reynolds would report to Mr. Bross rather than to USIB. Since these
points had been cleared up as explained by Mr. McCone, General Carroll
indicated his concurrence with the designation by the DCI of General
Reynolds as Chairman, CCPC.
There being no objection by other Board Members, Mr. McCone
said that he would make General Reynold's appointment effective as of
this date.*
Adjournment: 1235
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2. USIB-D-41.17/32 (COMOR-
D-34/18), 30 March 1964
(Limited Distribution through
restricted channels)
The USIB, as of 11 April 1964, approved the COMOR recom-
mendation in paragraph 2. of subject document. Copies of the statement
in its final USIB-approved form have been circulated as the attachment
to USIB-D-41.17/33 (COMOR-D-34/19) Limited Distribution.
*A memorandum from the Director of Central Intelligence designating
General Reynolds as Chairman, CCPC subsequently circulated to USIB
as USIB-D-64. 3/2.
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3. USIB-D-41.14/127 (COMOR-
D-24/130), 13 April 1964
(Limited Distribution through
restricted channels)
The USIB, as of 11 April 1964, approved the COMOR recom-
mendations as circulated in paragraph 6. of the attachment to the subject
document, which was transmitted for information and guidance of all
concerned.
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