DDS STAFF MEETING, 23 NOVEMBER 1965

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• Document Creation Date: December 9, 2016
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• Publication Date: November 23, 1965
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23 November 1965
SUBJECT : DDS Staff Meeting, 23 November 1965
1. This meeting was chaired by Alan Warfield. He did not say where Bob
Bannerman, the DDS, happened to be. While I didn't know everybody in the
room, it did appear to me that a full DDS complement was aboard. An agenda
25X1A prepared byl was tackled first, and then opportunities were made
for each member of the Staff of the DDS Directorate to speak.
25X1A 2. Far Eastern trip: 0, of Real Estate, LOG., was introduced
by Warfield and asked to relate his experiences on a recent FE trip. This was
done in some detail. He travelled from Saigon t 25X1A
25X1A and also visited0 This was a fairly long report on the construction
problems faced by the Agency in a war-time economy. Apparently, the Agency
25X1C hasi and all manner of property scattered throughout South Vietnam
including a new Commo buildup under the crypto of (phonetic). The whole 25X1A
25X1A business reminded 0 of the massive buildup and congestion of World War
II. During this presentation Warfield asked how the building program X1A
25X1A =was coming along. I reported that these anchorage facilities would
be ready at almost any time. Apparently there is a tremendous need for this
new space at which unloading may take place, given that the air unloading
facilities are now used to the maximum.
25X1A 3.1 1 funeral: Warfield at this time announced the 1500
hours ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery for I 25X1A
4. IG Review of Regulatory Publications: Bob (recording secretary) reported
on the IG's review of Agency's regulatory publications and has recommended ways
and means of improving the coordination for the use of Regs. to solve problems.
The IG has recommended that a committee on Regs be founded. According to
Warfield, the significant thing .in this study is the need to attempt to resolve
policy questions before the "technicians" get out the Regulations.
5. Retirement Board Cases: This discussion centered around the possibility
of including some people who have not had the qualifying overseas experience
for retirement under the new act. 0 DC/Commo, had the most to say 5X1A
about this subject, and it seems the Retirement Board is looking a bit more
leniently at cases; for example, Security Officers in the United States whose
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somewhat hazardous duties may possibly qualify them for new consideration.
The Boa osi ion is, however, not to accept job description approaches but
to analyze each individual case and the duties involved before making a decision
on these.
6. Federation of Federal Employees: Mr. Warfield mentioned receipt of a
letter from the Federation of Federal Employees, a labor union. The question
was raised as to whether people should be encouraged or discouraged insofar
as affiliation is concerned. Some were for discouraging and some were for
25X1A keeping mum. I finally said that the FBI and CIA are specifically
excepted from dealing with unions. Warfield's final admonition was "let's
soft-pedal this one. "
7. Personnel Announcement: Mr. Warfield announced Mr.
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assignment and that of the ADTR and Mr. Rodriguez.
the announcement "is in the works. It
(somewhat modified) was engraved on a silver tray. Hereafter, control oft e
Agency seal will be under the jurisdiction of the D/Pers, and that any use of
the seal will be referred to him for resolution.
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8. Control of the Agency Seal: The matter of controlling the Agency seal
has arisen again with the retirement of It seems that the seal 25X1A
9. Use of the title of "Doctor": Someone whose name I didn't get has
proposed to Colonel White that those who are entitled to use the title of
"doctor" use it in correspondence. White seemed to be of the opinion that
there was some merit in this since it would enhance the prestige of the Agency.
10. Wage Board Rate: The President has apparently asked John Macy to
coordinate and set up a uniform arrangement of wage rates. This is of no real
concern to us as CIA wage rates are tied in with those of the military, and
thereby we follow the adjustment patterns of Defense in the different localities.
11. Outcome of our Budget due shortly: We will get shortly the results of
our budget requests and know the ceiling allocations made to the Agency. We
will get 62% of our personnel request. As the allocation suggestions of the
Bureau of the Budget are not binding on the DCI, he will determine who gets
what; for this reason the announcement is being held back pending the DCI decision.
12. 0 DC/Commo problems: IIpointed out that Commo is 25X1A
moving ahead with "six racks of equipment" for Vietnam. This is the previously
referred project. They expect mid-December delivery of the equipment.
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c. We are negotiating seriously with the Government for the
setting up of additional Commo facilities in that country. The only problem
remaining is the desire for a quid pro quo of fairly ample payment.
This could take the form of a gift of a 50, 000 kilowatt radio station.
13. Emmett Echols reports on University Associates: Echols presented
an objective and enthusiastic but brief report on the outcome of the University
Associates Conference ati He read the most laudatory part of
memo. Warfield asked if anyone had talked to the University
Associates regarding our image. Echols stated that he had. The essence of
the Associates' conclusions is that the Agency is overly sensitive about its
image and that we should not expect to be loved by all, and particularly in
universities where a clandestine service such as ours cannot expect total
approbation.
a. I seconded Echols' sentiments regarding the conference for the
University Associates. I added that "Jocko was very close to the participants
throughout the entire program" and that he was "most satisfied with its
outcome. " In addition, because the participants themselves were able to
join in with the students in formal classes, in exercises, in personal
interviews, demonstrations and actual handling of certain equipment, there
was a feeling on their part that they had been completely integrated into our
25X1A training activities. I stated that ~elt that "it will be a long time
before we top this one!"
14. I passed on to the ADDS and Staff the pressure for training by the
Program. Due to sporadic reporting for duty problems, it would be
difficult for us to tool a program, but nevertheless formal training for them
would be ready when needed. At this point, I mentioned thati in charge2 X1A
of the 0 Program, had told me earlier today that the DDP had listed its
clearance priorities with the Office of Security as follows: 1) X1A
3) MONITOR, 4) CTP. This order of priority was confirmed by another officer
present. This caul tion that establishment of such priorities
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cannot actually be done without the concurrence of the Executive-Director.
In other words, this priority setting was a little out of line, given that all
Directorates are involved in the work schedules of security, etc.
15. There was mention of the mechanization of indices, and that shortly
all of these would be automated. Frankly, I did'nt focus on just what this means.
16. Tietjen reported on annual leave and sick leave as taken by executives
of the Agency. Essentially this study reflected that super-grade personnel of
the Agency take less sick leave than the average case in the U.S. Government.
There will be more on Tietjen's study and presumably the outcoming message
will urge executives to more fully utilize their annual leave possibilities.
17. There was a long report by Bob Fuchs on the Managerial Grid, and,
he advised, that everyone in the Office of Finance has taken Phase I. There are
presently 35 people taking the course at I A total of 118 in Finance 5X1A
hav t kPn ;_,-.T.bie top people of Finance have taken Phase II and are practicing
1Phases III and Branch people and Section level personnel are next in line.
+ iEey-will begin their training after the first of the year. Sometime later,
Finance will report on their impressions of the course, but speaking generally,
it can be stated now that it is profitable."
18. At the close of the meeting, Emmett Echols, while stating that he disliked
raising personnel cases before this group, brought up the case of 25X1A
He read a portion of letter as to why he would not go to Vietnam, and
concluded by stating that his recommendation was for immediate return 25X1A
to the Army for disposition. I made two points, one that 0 had told me 25X1A
that the young man's wife was not well, and that while he did not choose to
raise this particular issue, his departure from the country would probably be
the thing to push her over the brink. And secondly, while in the military status,
he really should not be sent out of this area. I made these points for the record.
They were quickly brushed aside, and it was seemingly the concensus that 25X1A
should be kicked out. I told this later.
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