JOURNAL OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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• Publication Date: November 22, 1974
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Contacts: 13
Calls: 20
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Friday - 22 November 1974
1.1 1 Called Tom Ernst, Legislative Assistant
in the office of Representative James Symington (D., Mo. ), concerning
his 19 November request for translations. I told him we have the Pravda
translation but are still looking for the Molodaya Gvardiya translation.
I told him we would also forward for his information, a copy of the unclassified
study by the Cabinet Committee on International Narcotics Control, "World
Opium Survey 1972. " Ernst said that the Representative's office had been
in touch with the DEA and State Department regarding the possibility of
U. S. /Chinese cooperation in the drug field. He said DEA wants to pursue
this possibility but the State Department was reluctant to do so. Ernst
then asked whether we had any information on whether the Chinese were
interested in cooperating with the U. S. on drug matters. After checking
with 1 1, OCI, I called Ernst back and said no we did not have any
such information but we did know that the Chinese were dropping subtle
hints that they might be willing to cooperate on the drug problem under the
auspices of the United Nations. Ernst then asked whether our experts could
render an opinion on whether cooperation with the Chinese would be advisable.
To this question I demurred explaining our mission was one of gathering
intelligence and assessing it and that his question was one of policy which this
Agency does not address itself to. Ernst was satisfied with this response
but then indicated that State Department had informed him that one of the
problems with cooperating with the Chinese was that none of the Chinese
diplomats presently stationed in Washington have any experience with the
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I suggested that he contact the FBI on this matter. Ernst seemed satisfied
with our response to his various questions.
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2. Received a call from Ed Kenney, Senate
Armed Services Committee staff, who said he and Senator Strom Thurmond
had seen a copy of the map book we had provided the Committee staff and
Kenney requested copies of the book for the Senator and himself. I told
Kenney the supply was getting low but I would get him at least one copy.
3. Attended a meeting of the Legislative Inter-
departmental Group at the White House on the subject of Foreign Assistance
legislation. See Memo for Record.
4. Called Clark McFadden, General Counsel,
Senate Armed Services Committee, to make sure he is focusing on the possibility
that; the Foreign Affairs and Foreign Relations Committees will report out
some form of the Hughes/Ryan amendments which could go to conference
and come back to the Senate floor with specific language establishing jurisdiction
of the Foreign Affairs and Foreign Relations Committees with respect to
intelligence activities which might have an impact on foreign policy. I told
McFadden that we were raising with the Department of Justice the constitutional
and other issues which might be policy considerations for the Administration.
McFadden acknowledged that this could be a problem and we agreed we would
keep each other informed of any information we acquire on this situation.
5. I I By way of follow up to con-
versation wi - b i l l Anderson, in the office of Representative Clarence Long,
regarding a briefing on the Persian Gulf situation, I told Anderson there were
several points I wanted to discuss with him. The first was that we were unable
to give the briefing on Monday morning since the briefers involved were committed
to attendance at another hearing. I said we would be happy to give the briefing on
Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning or Tuesday afternoon. Anderson said Long
had other commitments in the afternoon and would be leaving town Tuesday for the
Thanksgiving, recess. I said 'under the circumstances it would seem we would
have to put this over until the following week. Anderson agreed and suggested I
call Greg Rushfoid, of Long's staff, on Monday with a suggested date--some
morning the first week in December. In view of this development, I didn't raise
any other points with Anderson who seemed to want to get out of the middle on
this.
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6. In view of the request of Leslie Yates,
House Foreign Affairs Committee staff, for a pre-briefing session with
Representative Charles Diggs on Monday afternoon, I called Marian Czarnecki,
Chief of Staff, Foreign Affairs Committee, to check this out with him. I said
I wanted to be sure we did not get into a problem over the issue of reporting
to the Committee on covert activities. Czarnecki said such a question should
not arise and then said he had talked with Chairman Morgan about our coversation
on this subject and if Diggs should raise a question we should advise him this
is a matter on which we are awaiting advice from Morgan and our briefing on
9 December will have to be limited to a substantive intelligence briefing.
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7. OGC, advised that he had
contacted u Durham, Office of Legal Counsel, Department of Justice, on
the question I had referred to OGC on the possible constitutional and policy
issues for the Administration if some form of the Hughes/Ryan amendments
are included in the Foreign Assistance Act. Durham's first reaction was he
saw no problem on this but after further discussion withi decided to
look at the matter more closely and be back in touch with him later.
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Bill Dixon, Counsel, House Judiciary
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Committee called to e ermine if there had ever been a PFIAB briefing concerning
CIA and Watergate. After checking withi IC Staff, advised Dixon
that this had never been an Agency agenda item nor had there been any record
of an Agency briefing on this subject. I suggested that he might want to check
with , PFIAB staff. I alerted0 to -expect the call.
9. In the absence of Mr. Cary, had several
conversations with Bill Anderson, in the office of Representative Clarence Long
(D. , Md. ), and received the names of those of the five staff personnel in Long's
office who hold Top Secret clearences in connection with the upcoming briefing
for Long. My explanations covering the Israeli topic and the identity of Agency
briefers were greeted with the sarcasm one has become to expect from this
office but I made it clear that the selection of briefers was an Agency decision
based upon the requirement which we understood to be Persian Gulf, not just
Iran and that in view of the little time allotted, less than one hour, there is a
question of how much can be accomplished and the number of individuals to be
tied up in the process. The only time available for scheduling the session
appears to be from 11:30 to 12:30, Monday, 25 November with Long working
around possible quorum calls.
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Friday - 22 November 1974
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Following several conversations with
stall, on Mr. Colby's 18 September 1974 letter to
Governor Rockefeller, Robert Douglas, one of the Governor's aides at the
House Judiciary Committee's hearings in progress, called and in response
to his queries I reviewed with him the general contents of that letter, the
fact that there had been a follow-up phone call from Mr. Colby and the other
matters covered with Bill Dixon, Counsel, House Judiciary Committee,
as reflected in his "notes" which have been available to certain members
of the Committee.
11. I (Called George Murphy, Deputy Director,
Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, in connection with the item from the
French news magazine, Le Point, concerning smashing of Soviet spy networks
seeking nuclear secrets and attributing this story to Interior Minister Poniatowski.
I told Murphy there does not appear to be any foundation in fact to this story
but that I wanted to check out some other information which I had not had time
to digest.
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12. I I Talked to Bill Van Ness, Counsel, Senate
Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs, concerning the request from
Senator Howard Metzenbaum's office regarding I I, a Preside:n"1
nominee for appointment to FEA. I told Van Ness that had never been25X1
employed by the Agency and preliminary checks indicated no employment by
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background. I told Van Ness we will advise Senator Metzenbaum's office, in
keeping with the Senator's request, and if any further information is desired it
should be requested through the Committee staff so that the requests of all
members can be handled in a single package. I told Van Ness later that Senator
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indicated he had worked for an organization associated in some fashion
with the Agency. The Senator's office will be contacting Van Ness on this
matter. Van Ness appreciated the advance information.
13.1 (Met with Bill Ashworth, Senate Foreign
Relations Uommittee staff, sked for informal guidance on a Committee
briefing on the rash of press attention to Soviet violation of the SALT agreement.
Ashworth himself does not feel there is too much merit in the press comment
but the question is being raised by various Committee members. I told him I
would check the matter and be back in touch with him early in the week.
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14. I Talked to Frank Slatinshek, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, and filled him in on the various conversations
with Representative Michael Harrinngton's staff man, Stewart Monshine, with
regard to Agency briefings on Argentina. In Slatinshek's opinion Harrington's
office should be given nothing more than unclassified information we would give
any requester and any request for briefing should be referred back to the House
Foreign Affairs Committee to be handled within the Committee context.
Separately, I told Slatinshek that Bill Nelson, DDO, will handle the "operations"
half of Monday's session with the Intelligence Subcommittee and will treat with
Agency programs countering Soviet covert action. We will be briefing the
Committee later on the overall subject of Soviet covert action.
I brought Slatinshek up-to-date on the- meeting earlier in the week with
Representative Hicks concerning Soviet CW.
I left with Slatinshek a set of the OCI world maps.
15. I met with some sixty high school students,
members of political science groups from Representative Hamilton Fish's
district, together with their teachers and had an enjoyable fifty minutes with
them. Although the questions were perceptive and a few hostile, they all
seemed satisfied that the Agency is a real part of Government and that
probably something should be done about unfair press criticism (their opinion).
16. I I Received a call from Frank Slatinshek, Chief
Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, who told me he had been questioned
by Tom Schilli:nghoff, House of Representatives Legislative Counsel office, who
asked about 50 U. S. C. 403 j (b). Schillinghoff commented that in reading this
section it appeared to conflict with language in subsection a. Slatinshek asked
that we give him a short note on this item on Monday. Johan Warner has been
advised.
17. Gale Farrell, office of Representative
Edward P. Boland (D. , Mass. ), called on behalf of a constituent who operates
an employment placement company which specializes in minority and EEO
employment. The constituent understood that the Agency may have contracts
with other similar companies and wanted to talk to someone to negotiate such
an arrangement. I told her I would check and call her back.
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18. I I Gary Sellers, Senator John L.
McClellan's (D., Ark.) staff man on the Senate Government Operations
Committee, called in response to my earlier call to him requesting the status
of several matters before the Committee. Sellers advised that the Committee
plans no action on pending legislation pressing the Administration for all
Watergate material. He was unaware of any reaction by the President to the
legislation. The Committee at this time does not plan to hold hearings on
several bills, including S. 4019, a bill sponsored by Senators Lowell P.
Weicker, Jr. (R., Conn.) and Howard H. Baker, Jr. (R., Tenn.) to establish
a joint committee to oversee CIA. He doubts that any hearings will be held
this Congress.
19. Received a call from David Smith, Research
Assistant, office of Representative Thomas E. Morgan (D., Pa. ), Chairman
of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. Smith immediately began
requesting on behalf of the Chairman a number of historical studies from the
early 1950's dealing with the Hoover Commission and General Doolittle. Smith
25X1A wanted to know as to each item whether it was classifed; if so, was it still
classified; if classified, are any declassification procedures underway; and
25X1A finally, even if classified and no declassification procedures are underway,
can the Committee have access to the documents. Upon checking with I
I discovered a similar request had been made earlier to
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Smith back and informed him that we were working on the earlier request and we
25X1A would be in touch with him as soon as we located the documents. Smith admitted
he knew of the earlier request; he apparently thought that we were sitting on it
and that his call would shake things loose. I reiterated that we were working
on the request but had not yet found the documents, and as soon as we did we
would be in contact. I assured Smith we were not sitting on the request.
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20. Steve Stockman, on the staff of
Representative George M. O'Brien (D., Ill.), called to ask a number of
questions about the Agency. He asked for an Agency statement on Chile and
I said we would send him a copy of the Director's statement before the
Fund for Peace Conference. He then asked some questions about the rela-
tionship between the Agency and its oversight committees and any pending
investigations of the Agency. I answered these questions to his satisfaction.
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Walter F. Mondale (D., Minn.), Edward M. Kennedy (D., Mass.),
James L. Buckley (R., N.Y.), and Hubert H. Humphrey (D., Minn.
in which their names were mentioned.
22. Spoke with Steve Sklar, on the staff
of Senator Jacob K. Javits (R., N.Y.), and discussed a letter the Senator
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been associated with the Agency in any way and that certainly we had
never harassed him. In view of this Sklar said that no written response
from us would be necessary.
23. Left a map of the Ukraine for Pat
Rudy, on the staff of Senator Gaylord Nelson (D., Wisc.), with his receptionist
per Ms. Rudy's request.
24. Met with Jane Goforth, on the staff
of Senator Henry M. Jackson (D., Wash. ), in response to an inquiry the
Senator received from a high school senior in Califo25*j
Our suggested reply indicated that budget restrictions prevented this
but. we provided some material for class discussion. She said this would
do very nicely.
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who was requesting an Agency representative to speak to her Government
25. I I Spoke with Verrick O. French,
Administrative Assistantto Senator Howard O. Metzenbaun (D., Ohio),
concerning
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employee of the Agency or of -any organization funded by
Memorandum for the Record and Item 12, 22
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earlier request by Dan Grady of the Senator's staff, as to
had ever been an
the Agency. See
1974 Journal.
whether
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